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I'm going to exchange my Tilt under warranty. Anything I should be worried about?

I've installed a few ROMs from this place onto it. I did not SuperCID (just used a HardSPL bypass) it nor SIM Unlock it.
Does this mean that I should be able to undo everything that has been done?
How do I remove HardSPL? Is that possible?
How can I install an original AT&T ROM on it? Where do I find those? I think I found one with Alex's Kitchen, but I'm not sure if that's a full version or what. And what about the AT&T bloat?
Sorry if this is a noob question. I glanced through the Tilt-specific Wiki and the Kaiser Wiki and I didn't see the answer to any of these questions in the FAQs.

see the wiki, there's a howto link for reverting your spl

Oh, awesome. I missed that. I think it was because I was mainly looking through the Tilt-specific Wiki. My mistake.
Here's the thread in case someone else happens accross this one in search of the same advice.
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/335568/

Just install the original AT&T Rom and you should be fine. I had to send mine in for a warranty exchange last Friday after the radio conked out on it, and got my new one on Monday of this week. Anway, I used the HardSPL too, and I just reflashed the AT&T Rom onto it, put it in the box, slapped the return label on it and sent it on it's merry way
Edit-Somebody on here said they don't check the SPL when they get the defective unit, just that it has the AT&T Rom on it. In fact, I bet they just chuck it in the recyling bin and write it off.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they half inspect the phones. They must get more exchanges than they could deal with. They possibly check the device thoroughly though because it's a high end (dollar) device. Who knows?

I worked in the service department at Best Buy for a while, and I know we didn't check anything when customers returned products. All we did was looked at the stickers on the outside of the products to make sure the serial number, model number, etcetera all matched up, and that was it. As long as those matched up, we could send the devices back to their manufacturers or out to our service centers.
I figured AT&T would operate the same way, but from what I've read on these forums, they do a pretty thorough check. I just wanted to make sure I covered all grounds. Better safe than sorry, y'know?

Yeah, that's true. The guy at the store looked my phone over, and even changed SIM's and agreed something was wrong with the phone's radio, so that's in the notes too.

I found the post I was talking about, it's the first on on the page-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568&page=23
"Just FYI; I recently returned my 8525 to ATT because it was not charging with the car charger.
I flashed back to the latest ATT ROM and then did a second hard reset. I heard last week from ATT the phone was accepted as a core with no problem.
I was told by a friend at ATT that they don't look at CID, but different splash screens will for sure trip up a return.
Just my experience; hope it helps someone."

Warranty issue?
The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?

ceo.mtcl said:
The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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Just call AT$T, they will check your account to see if you are within warranty. If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) It usually arrives within five days. It comes with a pre paid return envelope. Take the battery and sim and back cover off the old phone, put them in the new phone. Drop the old one in the envelope. Drop it in the post and you are all set.
If you fail to send the old one back within the time allotted they will bill your account of the full value of the replacement phone. Quick and easy, my replacement phone is over a year old and has worked flawlessly.

My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.

KentM said:
My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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Unless of course it is a battery issue, and they put in a new battery, see that you have used unapproved software and mark your S/N as immediately out of warranty,.....................I'm just sayin................................

You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?

KentM said:
You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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Do you think they stay in business by by just mailing a new phone to anyone who says, " this is broken, give me anew fuze ?'

I just exchanged my tilt today. My screen broke (the colors became all white and inversed and weird) so I called ATT and they told me to go to this special service warranty store. They looked it over quickly and gave me a new tilt no problem... just make sure you flash the original ATT rom back on it. (They didnt notice I broke the VOID sticker in the screwhole hehe)
PS. I got my tilt last April, and I'm not sure how long the warranty lasts. The guy said I have 90 extra days on this new phone.

denco7 said:
<snip> If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) </snip>
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Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...

d_stew said:
Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
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Basically , you can have a brand new Fuze the way AT$T and M$ want it, or you can have a Tilt the way you want it. At present there are three times as many custom roms, more ways to customize it and I absolutely will not give up my Tilt screen. After a year of customizing my Tilt to perfection on this site, there is absolutely nothing about the Fuze that interests me.

I'm thinking about sending my Tilt back. It's bricked for some reason. I bought a new (OEM) battery because I thought I had battery problems, still nothing. If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?

adstevenson said:
If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
denco7 I agree entirely with your comments re the importance of a tilting screen but now HTC have developed the Touch Pro 2 (which has a tilting screen) there may soon be a real successor for the Kaiser released to the market. I don't know which providers will pick it up or where it'll be sold though.

Flying Kiwi said:
If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
Does the same thing apply if it's not under warranty but has insurance from at&t on it?
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I killed my HTC TyTN II "Solved"

I killed my Kaiser by flashing a Touch Diamond ROM to it.
Sent it to repair service and they say the Mainboard needs to be replaced,but the price for repair is ultragious .
I realy need the device,it was a big help in my confused life style.
Can anyone tell me how can i fix it myself. Or where i can buy a mainboard. Or where can i send the device to repair for a cheaper service?
Sorry i have started a new thread,but i think this is a serious matter,cause HTC TyTN II is not a toy"I know i done to it the same as to a toy" and its expensive. Please help.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys.
(Solved)

why would you flash a touch diamond rom when your device is a kaiser?

CraZyLiLbOy said:
why would you flash a touch diamond rom when your device is a kaiser?
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Duhhhhh.....'cause he wanted to kill his device!

sherpa said:
Duhhhhh.....'cause he wanted to kill his device!
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lol....................

Blueangel69 said:
I killed my Kaiser by flashing a Touch Diamond ROM to it.
Sent it to repair service and they say the Mainboard needs to be replaced,but the price for repair is ultragious .
I realy need the device,it was a big help in my confused life style.
Can anyone tell me how can i fix it myself. Or where i can buy a mainboard. Or where can i send the device to repair for a cheaper service?
Sorry i have started a new thread,but i think this is a serious matter,cause HTC TyTN II is not a toy"I know i done to it the same as to a toy" and its expensive. Please help.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys.
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Touch diamond isn't all that great. It's lyk a Nokia platform on a PDA, why'd u flash it to a kaiser anyway ?!
About the raw materials, you can easily get the main board (for cheep) through any cellphone spareparts shop online through google . As far as repair is concerned, its as easy as performing a hardware upgrade for your pc; un-plug--> plug. If you're still scared, you can google for a stp by stp instructions.

Blueangel69 said:
I killed my Kaiser by flashing a Touch Diamond ROM to it.
Sent it to repair service and they say the Mainboard needs to be replaced,but the price for repair is ultragious .
I realy need the device,it was a big help in my confused life style.
Can anyone tell me how can i fix it myself. Or where i can buy a mainboard. Or where can i send the device to repair for a cheaper service?
Sorry i have started a new thread,but i think this is a serious matter,cause HTC TyTN II is not a toy"I know i done to it the same as to a toy" and its expensive. Please help.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys.
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your not the only one with a confused life style

Not dead,just sleeping
_Alex_ said:
As for where to purchase parts, I'd normally tell you to go here: http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~HTC_TyTN_II-972~area~home.htm but they don't have motherboards.
Your best bet might be to buy something from eBay with a cracked screen, because the motherboard, cpu & chipset is usually the most expensive part, and if you fry that it's usually easier to just buy new...
Hope this helps!
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Thankx Alex.
I knew that wise words and advice would come out of the inner you.
I went to Mike Channon Home Page and left a message there,im still waiting for a reply.
I will go get the Device from the repair shop tomorrow. Ididnt accepted the price.
I will try and fix it myself,as i have the hability to fix Electronic things as PCs,Laptops,Mobiles etc,thank GOD.
Im low on economic status,but i will try Ebay my friend.
First Kitchen i used was the one with all your OEM Packages. So i love your work.
Hope you keep up in the good path of life .
For some of the others, should ignore any inconscient reply.
Of course i didn wanted to kill my Device. I just cooked HTC Touch Diamond ROM in a Kaiser Kitchen,added some Apps from the ROM i cooked based on C. Stu ROM to make it more colorfull,more alive to our eyes. But it went wrong,and if Man doesnt commited mistakes,so there wouldnt be positive results. Test we need. Mistakes have to occur in order to get better things.
People in Ethiopia have a more confused life than me. Im not an egocentric person, but cool .
I always learned things the hard way .

While I changed my screen I broke the keyboard connector on the mainboard. The brown plastic closing mechanism broke to parts. Any clue where I could buy a new one and if it is possible to change it (solder?)?

CraZyLiLbOy said:
why would you flash a touch diamond rom when your device is a kaiser?
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he cooked the rom first ... and i'm guessing something didn't go right. OFCOURSE he just didn't straight flash a diamond rom .. he's a cook so i think he knows better than that.

The only thing I can say you:
Great Avatar......

There is always a Solution
raccna said:
While I changed my screen I broke the keyboard connector on the mainboard. The brown plastic closing mechanism broke to parts. Any clue where I could buy a new one and if it is possible to change it (solder?)?
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Im sorry for what append to you device. It doesnt make us feel good.
What did realy append ?
What part do you need ?
I have the solution for that. If you need a new Mainboard i can get it for you.
I dont make crazy prices. Probably a new device for the price of a Mainboard,thats what ive done,but im searching for a Mainboard supplier thought .
If you want to know more PM me.

Hi Thesire
thesire said:
he cooked the rom first ... and i'm guessing something didn't go right. OFCOURSE he just didn't straight flash a diamond rom .. he's a cook so i think he knows better than that.
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Nope,i didnt straight flashed a Diamond Rom.
I knew i had to cook it. But forgot that i had to Port XIP and probably SYS from a Kaiser ROM to the Diamond one, or the reverse.
Im still on the learning process. But as you must know,Time is the Master.
And learning and take actions till they come correct its a bit time consuming. And i dont have much time these days.
I learned the hard way. I believe thats one thing that will never appen again .
Im waiting for my new Kaiser to arrive. Couldnt find a Mainboard supplier yet.
But i can get Kaisers for less then the price they asked me in the repair shop.

Possibly the dumbest question on upgrading a wizard.

Hi there,
Well I have had my wizard for a while now and the screen has managed to aqiure some scratches over the years and I found out that on ebay you can get a new screen for like £8 with tools and instructions, so this got me thinking, as I really like this phone even though it is old and outdated it still manages to keep up in some areas and thanks to you guys it keeps getting new software and os's so I thought well instead of spending £400 on a new phone why not spend like £50 on a new screen and then possibly fix the biggest problem i have with this phone, the RAM.... its really not enough and i was wondering if it was possible to get a new upgraded RAM chip and just get someone experienced in soldering and stuff to take out the old one and put in a new one. Now I know this really sounds far fetched and even if it is possible it may end up way to expensive, and alot easier to get a new phone but if anyone has any ideas if it is possible id love to know.
PS sorry if this is a seriously dumb question but I like my massive outdated smart phone I just wish it had more ram.
Thanks

Well to all those interested, i have found out that it is possible to get it to 128 MB but it will cost around £70 and i can get a secondhand HTC TYTN II for £100 so I think ill go for that instead.

That's cool
Is it available freely or did you have to do a lot of digging?
And any ideas how to install the new memory?

Well from what i found out in another thread on this site is that a company called retronix will take your phone in and change the ram chips for you. Here is the thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359590
I have sent them an email asking about it but have not recieved a reply.
I hope this will be helpfull for you, I have decided against it as you can buy a second hand tytn II for almost the same price and also as I will start uni in september I will be getting a contract that comes with the Touch Pro 2 cant wait it looks like an awsome phone.

Htc biggest ripoff ever !!

Good day,
This is just a warning to all Touch pro 2 owners. I bought my unit August last year. Shipped it back to HTC because the touch screen had stopped responding. The phone booted up fine but you couldnt use the touch screen.
Im from the Caribbean so I had to pay for the shipping back to the states.
This is the email I got for HTC :
Dear Valued Customer,
This is documentation to provide suggested action repairs and quotation for
each service rendered.
Diagnosis:
System hanging, device has been hacked.
Suggested Repair:
Replace Main Board
Total Repair Price:
With shipping $359.64
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I paid $700 bucks for the phone off amazon.
I installed the bootloader and an Original windows mobile European Rom 6.5 months ago.
Here are my questions :
If the motherboard is bad or "hacked" why did the system work perfectly for 6 months.
Obviously HTC thinks I am an *** to shell out $360. Im going to tell them go to hell. This WAS my first ever HTC phone. I had respect for the company. But not the way they treat their customers. Im just going to tell them keep the phone because I dont want a paperwieght. This is alot of BS. Its obviously a hardware problem and they are trying to blame it on me.
So Im out $700 and no phone. ---- HTC they have lost a customer for life.
Im sure someone here will have a problem with their phone. But just be warned. HTC thinks we are all chumps. Im going to get a droid or something when I save up enough money.
I hope no one has to live through this nightmare like I had.
Thanks for nothing HTC. ---
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ok first of all, dont curse, its just gonna make you look childish,
where im at HTC doesnt really have bad customer service, you just gotta make sure you talked to the right guy from HTC, but since your touch screen doesnt work, its just an LCD problem something to do with the digitizer, not soo sure, but did you even try a hard reset or flashed a different ROM?
and what you installed a bootloader
you didnt jtag it have you?
but im sure u mean to say HardSPL, but was it the original HardSPL? that couldve triggered them to say its been hacked if it wasnt the stock SPL

I bet for that price you could pay someone to do the work locally.

Well you really can't blame HTC for your mistake..The mistake of not restoring for factory ROM and SPL prior to sending it back. There are instructions for doing that just for this situation when you need to make a warranty exchange..Flashing a custom SPL & ROM will void any warranty on the phone..If its only the touch screen that is bad you can pick one up off ebay and do the repairs yourself...google and you will find detailed instructions...

Sounds like you need a new digitizer........Ebay has them for around $30 (U.S.)
Purchase a small Torx driver set, and replace it......

I meant to say Hard SPL
Yup I meant to say Hard SPL.
This is just wrong the way they say it was the mainboard. Im sure it has something to do with the touch screen.
It is sad they had to resort to this. I mean I dont think Im THAT stupid. Hard Spl or not I think they should just fix it. Its not software related. The phone works perfectly. Just no touch input.
With that kind of money I could get another TP 2 off ebay. So its just wrong. Its a sham to get people to shell out 360 bucks for nothing.
This has thought me a very important lesson. Dont let these companies push you around.

try to attempt at asking it back without the repairs? i havent seen no one do it before, but its worth a try, im pretty sure they'll give it back cuz they "claim" you cant fix it and will be stuck with it, but in reality u have digitizers sitting around ebay
worth a shot mate
but then yet again, how much is shipping? :x

Clearly stated in the Hard-SPL thread:
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[SIZE=+3]Hard-SPL Release Time!!!![/SIZE]
NOTE 2: this is unsigned Hard-SPL. no limitations on flashing ROMs (except of course some Radio roms). also, this has overwrite protection against HTC RUU's overwriting HSPL with a stock one, so if someone needs to revert to stock SPL for warranty reasons, a stock SPL downgrade package is posted here below. use this relocker *only* if you need to return the phone for warranty, and only use it as last step - after reflashing stock OS and radio. see steps at the end of this post about how to reflash stock SPL.
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Simply downgrading to the stock SPL could have avoided this.

Yes downgrading could have avoided this but they lied !!
What bothers me the most is that they lied about the diagnostic. Its just very misleading and to me its extortion. How could the mainboard be bad? Or is it they simply think that people with smartphones dont know how they work. I will update you on the situation as time progresses. One thing I know is im not paying that "fee" for having it repaired. Shipping might cost me $70. So im already out alot.

sounds like a digitizer as already mentioned. very cheap.
i bought my phone off ebay. and seller said it was RAN OVER lol. still works great despite the scratches, chips,e tc and battery looks like it went to hell and back.. cells almost exposed in some areas

They probably have a policy where if the phone has been hardSPL'd (hacked) they simply replace the mobo. I can understand they wouldnt wont to train their staffs in every known hack etc they would want the phones to be in original condition.
Just tell them to post it back (you will have to pay the postage) then either set it back to standard and then try to get it fixed again or best option as others have said, buy a digitizer off eGay and fix it yourself or get a local boffin to fix it for you.
You need to accept the fact that if you hack your phone you will not be treated as a 'normal' customer. You get a lot of benefits from hard SPL but 'factory' HTC service wont be one of them.

First off, you are truly stupid for even paying $700 for a cell phone off amazon. That is outrageous and you know it. Besides, most carriers sell these for $150 - $200 with a new 2 year contract. Second, I agree with the others. If you would have called and had them warranty exchange it, you wouldn't be in this situation. hTC is a great phone manufacturer and their phones are top quality (price reflects). You have had one issue with the company because of something you did and/or failed to do with ONE of their phones. Don't go blaming them for your mistakes. Sorry if anyone is upset at this, i just can't tolerate someone coming on here and bashing the manufacturer that makes our phones

I can only foresee this thread degenerating more than it already has so I just closed it. ROM development is the wrong forum to post this anyway. As to the original OP... it comes down to the fact that you didn't put the stock SPL back on before you sent it to them. It seems logical they would use that as an excuse to get out of repairing your device for free. HTC or not, they exist to make money.

R.I.P My TyTN

Its served me well for the past year but now i fear it has gone kaput..
2 days ago i noticed my homescreen had "no service" listed.
strange as i normally receive a 3g signal fine in my area with no loss..
So i figured take the sim out,
give it a clean and pop it back in
That came the same thing,
"no service"
So i took that sim out and tried my others [o2/tmobile and lebara]
Same thing, wouldn't get a signal..
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So afraid to say this thing may end up on ebay or in the free ads as a faulty/repair handset as im lost with what to do.. >__<
Any advice guys?
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Yes the phone was unlocked,
must've been through atleast 14 different roms over time but that shouldnt effect this surely.. o__O

Have you tried a hard reset or reflash?
If your phone still dead..when there's a dead body...commonly there's always an autopsy . It can be hardware (antena), maybe something is loose in there.

Try hard-reset if not working flash stock and see if disabling 3G helps... Check no problems carrier side.
As Mr Clown said genrally a way to fix you just have to try every scenario and if not then might be hardware @ which point you can decide if worth the time/outlay?

Thanks guys for the info,
@MrClown I have tried a had reset to only end up in the same situation,
I will attempt a stock rom flash tonight to see if that helps
@Stylez Again i will try a stock flash and see if it helps,
Found a good one on the wiki so that should help
My guess is hardware related as the phone had been dropped a few times in the house albeit over many months not repeatedly,
I'll report back later guys
so thanks for the advice

hey dude! all is not lost! this is a common problem with the kaiser due to the sliding mechanism, i.e. "moving parts". over time, the wear and tear often causes the "main flex cable" to become loose/faulty. i had the same problem at the beginning of may 2010...had it fixed in 1 week and it worked fine. then i got an HD2 in june 2010 but the kaiser still works just fine!
i had made up my mind that the kaiser needed to be replaced the day it went bad. BUT i did not give up hope on it and decided to have it repaired because it is worth more in the second hand market with working phone functionality. did a simple cost-benefit analysis and figured i'd have it repaired AND get an HD2.
wouldn't you know it, i ended up GIVING the kaiser to my brother...had i sold it to a potential buyer, i'm certain it would be worth more if the phone parts work.
...and just to summarize! HD2 is GREAT! but i really miss the hardware keyboard of the kaiser and the super duper redundancy the kaiser had in terms of buttons...D-PAD+jog wheel+arrow keys on hardware keyboard, THREE OK buttons...count them! TWO start menu buttons. oh and the HD2 has a soft reset button in a REEAAAAAALLLLLLYYYYY difficult to access area behind the battery cover, unlike the kaiser's super friendly poke-the-stylus-in-the-hole approach. BUT i highly recommend the HD2 if you still fancy windows mobile...fast, HHUUUUUUGGGEEEE screen, and it seems android just might happen soon on the HD2.

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hey dude! all is not lost! this is a common problem with the kaiser due to the sliding mechanism, i.e. "moving parts". over time, the wear and tear often causes the "main flex cable" to become loose/faulty. i had the same problem at the beginning of may 2010...had it fixed in 1 week and it worked fine. then i got an HD2 in june 2010 but the kaiser still works just fine!
i had made up my mind that the kaiser needed to be replaced the day it went bad. BUT i did not give up hope on it and decided to have it repaired because it is worth more in the second hand market with working phone functionality. did a simple cost-benefit analysis and figured i'd have it repaired AND get an HD2.
wouldn't you know it, i ended up GIVING the kaiser to my brother...had i sold it to a potential buyer, i'm certain it would be worth more if the phone parts work.
...and just to summarize! HD2 is GREAT! but i really miss the hardware keyboard of the kaiser and the super duper redundancy the kaiser had in terms of buttons...D-PAD+jog wheel+arrow keys on hardware keyboard, THREE OK buttons...count them! TWO start menu buttons. oh and the HD2 has a soft reset button in a REEAAAAAALLLLLLYYYYY difficult to access area behind the battery cover, unlike the kaiser's super friendly poke-the-stylus-in-the-hole approach. BUT i highly recommend the HD2 if you still fancy windows mobile...fast, HHUUUUUUGGGEEEE screen, and it seems android just might happen soon on the HD2.
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Well if you'll care to enlighten me on where i could get this repair done id be most glad,
Wont be handing it to the people in my local market to fiddle with as i dont trust them at all
As in regards to the previous two guys a stock rom didnt help at all it still refuses to get a signal,
so its definatly something to do with this "flex cable"
But in regards to the HD i wont be getting one,
Most likely i'll be getting another xda exec [htc universal] for my social needs,
I have a tendancy of using dated hardware and pushing their limits

sure dude! i'm just going to post links here of THREE other threads about this issue (so you can verify with some more testing if the flex cable is really the actual issue), in which i have contributed my experience. you can read my posts there as well as all the other very helpful posts of other members.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692530
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620069
summary: first try some of the debugging techniques mentioned in the above threads and look for signs that the flex cable is indeed faulty. if so, you have 2 options:
1. get a do-it-yourself kit (available on many websites and also on ebay) and errrr do it yourself!
2. have someone reliable and experienced with such repairs carry out the repair.
i had to go for option 2. and i had to rely on the parts that the service repair guy had to offer (he cannibalized the flex cable from a tilt so the front camera of my tytn2 is no longer detected!).
i totally understand the need to milk out every last drop from these expensive devices. i truly respect the tytn2 even though it is an old device. that little bugger still has so much potential. hope this helps!

Ahhh much thanks for the information man,
You have no idea how appreciative i am
Its definatly a hardware issue so its gonna have to be a replacement fixup for myself,
Looking into this listing on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTN-II-P4550-Kaiser-Flex-Sim-Card-Slot-Repair-Part-/290442707411?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item439fbc01d3
Essentially from hong kong as usual but that looks like it would do the job,
The only problem now is that i have ZERO experience with mobile based mainboards and hardware changing,
Give me a pc or mac anyday and ill be done in seconds but im afraid im blank for mobile operations,
Would any UK members be able to give advice as to somewhere i could get this fitted?
Only option i can think of is at the carphone warehouse..
as in my first post i dont really wish to give this to the market people for a botched job
And much thanks to ASCIIker for all the helpful information,
cos id really dread getting rid of my TyTN II >_<