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I've done a fairly comprehensive search here to try to solve this problem but not one post I've found expresses the exact characteristics of my problem AND contains a solution that has worked. I.E. please don't flame me as if a were some lazy idiot. Thank you.
I have a G4 8125 and was able to flash the stock 2.24.001 IPL/SPL to 2.25.001 before I knew that was bad. Applying flawed logic like "I stuck my head in the lion's mouth once and didn't die, lemme try that again!" I thought that the procedure I went through before would work as well. I thought wrong.
I flashed with a ROM that had the 2.26.001 IPL/SPL (I think) and only one of them appeared to "take" upon the first reboot after an apparently successful flash. That is, the boot screen showed only IPL and not SPL. I though, OK, I sometimes see that my GSM version is missing too. No big deal.
Upon the next reboot, the device is bricked. I mean it won't even turn on. I had well over half battery when I did this and now I don't even get a amber charging LED to light up when I plug it in to charge it. I've tried the hardware cold boot (hold comm and voice buttons then soft reset). No dice. I'm afraid that one of the posts I read might explain it -- if the bootloader is updated somehow it "loses" the power button.
My question is this -- is there anyway I can jump start this thing? I've seen some posts about using a 9v battery and others about using an image of a good ROM on an SD card, etc. Can anyone give any feedback here, all in the same place, about whether any of these have worked for you if the phone would not turn on.
Thanks!
same problem here plz help !
I had kind of a similar problem where the phone would not turn on. The only thing I could think of was the phone somehow self discharged the battery to such a low state that the USB charger would/could not charge it. Last ditch effort and not knowing what was going on I pluged it in using the wall charger and after a day it did turn on. You just cant assume the battery is good just because it was.
Thanks for the help. I'll try the wall charger thing out of pure desperation. BTW if any of you guru's out there want to chime in I promise to post a "bricked" FAQ. I think it's sorely needed. Like I said, I did a thorough search of this forum and there are far more questions than answers.
My first question -- how the hell does the ROM get loaded in the first place? That is, obviously the Wizard contains EPROM or flash or whatever -- something non-volatile -- does anyone know how it gets on the device at the factory? Is it burned into the chip before it gets installed on the device or is it somehow flashed later? My guess it that it gets burned by the carrier and if so I'll bet it's not a bunch of lab monkeys with USB cables. Is there a way to completely reload the Wizard from, say, a SIM card? I mean the bootloader too...
Well I gave up and ordered a replacement from Cingular. They were pretty nice about it. Should be here Friday. Next step: in depth research into bootloaders and ROM backups before the next try at flashing my new 8125. By the time I get this figured out the 8525 will be out and I'll have to switch to that
Phone is here. Swapped out the SIM battery and cover. Still won't turn on. Maybe it's the battery?
Most probably it is the battery. Have you tried direct-charging? Here's a procedure I sent to someone else a while ago:
Here's one trick I've used with my boss PDA which did the same thing, the battery drained and it would not recharge with the stock charger.
You'll need to take out the Wizard's battery.
1. Take a DC adapter that puts out 5-6 VDC.
2. Make a note where the positive and negative terminals are. Usually the center/tip is positive and the barrel/ring is negative but this is not a defacto standard. Check the adapter casing to be sure. DO NOT USE AC OR MORE THAN 6 VOLTS! THE BATTERY PACK COULD BE DAMAGED!
3. Attach a wire to the adapter's positive and another wire to the negative. How you hook it up is left to your imagination
4. Now, with the negative wire coming from the adapter touch the negative terminal on the battery. Touch the positive battery terminal with the positive wire. The battery polarity is printed on the label.
5. Charge the battery like this for 15-30 seconds.
6. Now plug the battery back into the phone and attach the charger.
The battery should start charging now. If it doesn't, it means it is deeply discharged and you'll have to repeat the procedure, this time for 30 seconds tops. Again, remember by doing this procedure you're bypassing the charging/conditioning circuits and the battery could be damaged!
Good luck!
I'll be damned...
I used a 9v battery and a twist tie from a bread bag. Three 15 sec charges later, Windows Vista RC1 recognizes the device on USB, loads the driver and starts charging it. I can't resist booting it up -- bonus 2.25.11.1 OS, 2.25.11 GSM and 2.25 IPL/SPL. It's not a G4!
hi to all!
I am suffering the same trouble described few post below...
After an upgrading rom My Qteck 9100 don´t turn on.
I´ve tried charging battery in a cradle during all night, change for another charged battery (from another pda) and it's impossible to turn on.
Anybody have a suggestion or trip?
Many thanks
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Didn't thought of the 9v and the twist tie... Glad to know your phone is on its way to recovery!
baarod said:
I used a 9v battery and a twist tie from a bread bag. Three 15 sec charges later, Windows Vista RC1 recognizes the device on USB, loads the driver and starts charging it. I can't resist booting it up -- bonus 2.25.11.1 OS, 2.25.11 GSM and 2.25 IPL/SPL. It's not a G4!
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Does anybody can explain the "how to" using 9v battery?
Thanks
Guess what baarod did was touching his phone battery with the 9v battery negative contact (the one that looks like a little crown) and used a bare twist tie from the 9v positive to the battery positive. He repeated this 3 times for 15 seconds each time.
I have an HT that suffers from the same problem, if I let its battery discharge completely the desktop charger will not activate unless I take the battery off the radio and charge it alone for a few seconds.
LiIon batteries do not like to be discharged completely.
Good luck!
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Does anybody can explain the "how to" using 9v battery?
Thanks
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Thank God there's others... not I don't feel so dumb
8125 from Cingular with a G4 chipset. I'm going to go get a 9 volt right now and I'll post again if that little battery blurb works...if not I'll post it while crying and potentialy electrocute myself... (yeah right... more like just short it out forcing me to buy another...but hell I just bricked a $700 phone, what another $60 at cosco huh? :shock: :shock: :twisted: :twisted: :mrgreen: )
One little thing, for a G4 chipset the flashing procedure is different!
You need a firmware without IPL/SPL. Check the forums for the correct firmware to use!
If in doubt, flash the official firmware from Cingular and take notes...
Good luck!
I'm laughing because if I don't, I'm gonna scream
Okay, good advice yellowdragon, except that it's Cingular we're talking about here. Not only did they have absolutely no clue what I was referring to when I referenced the G3 vs G4 chipsets, but the only rom they have posted for firmware upgrades, is the G3 chipset, which of course kills a G4 phone, even though they're sending out G4 phones to the general public to begin with. At work now trying to find the DC adapter with the right specs to try the 9v bypass thing.
Wish me luck people... and if anyone can find Risidoro... I'd love to chat with him... or to see if he has any handy advise on how to fix all this...
peace
... okay it's not working. Tried the 9v battery idea, and nothing. tried with the 9v like 4 times.... each 15 seconds... i get the feeling that the answer is more obvious than it may appear... like it's DEAD! Unless perhaps I read the above wrong and should have done 2 15second charge sessions for the 2nd time of zappint it, each time accumulating more charge time each time I 'jump it". I'm gonna try that...
the battery won't explode... will it?
hope not
I also upgraded a G4 with a G3 IPL ;/ I know it's a stupid mistake, but I was sure that I'm upgrading with G4. I should have used a rom without IPL/SPL ;(
Wizard worked first time after rom upgrading... everything is because power button doesn't work I think. So is there a way to turn a Wizard on without pressing power button?
I don't believe in 9V battery trick... why should it work? My battery was fully charged before upgrading. I'm afraid that I'll destroy my Wizard's battery too :/
If anybody can help, plz help!
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Folks,
Please note that I got a replacement 8125 from Cingular since I could not get my device to power on either. Upon receipt of said device I installed my SIM card, battery and battery cover only to find that the NEW device would STILL not power on. Now THATS a BRICK! ;-)
What I noticed is that when I connected the device to the USB cable, the charging light (right-handside of the earpiece, normally amber when charging) did not come on. I then tried the AC adapter to no avail. I then scoured the forum here and found the 9v trick.
Don't feel bad people -- I got all that working again and tried to flash the new AKU 3.2 ROM from ells. Now I'm stuck at the ROM 2.26 bootloader again :-( I'm just a ROM junkie, no matter how much trouble I get into I gotta go back to the juice!
I'll post how this recovery turns out. If we can keep this thread alive and I keep getting Cingular to send new phones then we might be able to cover every conceivable brick scenario... LOL
Risidoro's 2.26 seems to be flashing my Wizard right now. It's sitting at that pivotal ~96-98% point. Fingernails: chew, chew.
I hope this is not like last time where the updater finished but the Wizard was still at 99%!
Yay! It worked!!!
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Folks,
I'll post how this recovery turns out. If we can keep this thread alive and I keep getting Cingular to send new phones then we might be able to cover every conceivable brick scenario... LOL[/QU
Hi Baarod, can you post wich is the method of the 9v battery trick?
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I was trying to update my WM5 to WM6 I have the G4 8125 , now it wont turn on I plugged it in to the charger port and the light that shows it's charging doesn’t even come on. Last night after I was trying to update it went completely blank, I tried to run the Official AT&T RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1 and it wont even connect to my phone it gives me the connect error, every now and then last night it would show the boot loader screen but now its doing nothing someone HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZZZ Does this mean my phone is bricked ???
Sounds like the battery is dead at a guess. As you have already seen the bootloader screen that is a good sign. You need to charge the battery away from the phone either in a cradle battery charger or another persons phone. If after charging the battery the phone is still dead I am afraid it maybe RIP.
I am sure others may help you far better than me though
Shew , i hope it is just the battery if its not the battery is thier anything else i can do for the phone ?
I am now in the same boat with my K JAM
What was you trying to do to your phone ? the same thing i was ?
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What was you trying to do to your phone ? the same thing i was ?
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Basically but I have left the battery out for 30 mins and it has restarted
You can buy A charger which will charge the battery out of the phone on E bay
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I was trying to update my WM5 to WM6 I have the G4 8125 , now it wont turn on I plugged it in to the charger port and the light that shows it's charging doesn’t even come on. Last night after I was trying to update it went completely blank, I tried to run the Official AT&T RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1 and it wont even connect to my phone it gives me the connect error, every now and then last night it would show the boot loader screen but now its doing nothing someone HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZZZ Does this mean my phone is bricked ???
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Most important is to get your battery fully charged atleast, I think it has gone flat,how are you trying to charge the battery ?,it won't get charged through usb cable, cuz usb cable will not charge in bootloaders,it got have a working OS on the phone and only provides 0.5 amp(500 amp power),where as now it'll only start charging if you connect it to a 'Wall Charger' which provides 1 Amp (1000 Amp power), or get a charged battery from a friend and check if your phone gets into bootloaders,if it gets than my friend your saved.WELL,IF NOT,.....I'm afraid you gotta shinny expensive paper weight on ya desk.
which Upgrade Rom were you trying to flash and as you have a G4 device,what method did you adopt to flash the Rom ? a G4 device can only be upgraded through SoftSPL or HardSPL method in case upgrading to a custom build wm6 Rom and or can only be flashed with an official Rom.
Secondly ,if you flashed a G3 specific Rom which includes IPL/SPL in it,will definitely "BRICK" the phone
I just wanted to thank everyone for your help , i got my new battery in yesterday and my phone booted up flashed back to at&t orginal rom. Thank So Much.....
Hi everyone
So I have the battery problem-it`s not charging!
at start it showed all the time that it`s charging-eaven when it was unplugged!
so I searched and disabled the usb charging,through registry.
But then started another problem-it shows that it`s connected to wallcharger and so,and it shows it`s charging,and how full the battery is...BUT!
it`s all fake! it shows 100% but after few mins dies!It only charges and holds the power normaly only when i charge it through differient methods-with just ac adapter(just two wires-my brothers electrician so he knews how to..).
but it`s not the batterys fault-I just bought a new one.
So-what could be the problem,any ideas?
thanks and have a nice day
P.S.
I got it used.its G4
the info,that i found in it was:
ROM version:2.17.7.2 WWE
Radio version:02.07.10
So do you think that rom updeite could fix it?
I'm betting on hardware problem; maybe charging IC's or something but it's easier to just try a Hard-reset or flash a new ROM to see if it goes away. Only problem is battery must be over 50% to complete the upgrading
so which rom could be the best to upgrade to?
First get the battery fully charged somehow,it won't complete the rom flash if its below 50%,then download the official stock rom and flash it.
I was flashing my phone repeatedly last night. I've read the forums and have done about 4 successful flashes already. The problem is, I've found a WM6 rom for the Wizard that I wanted better than the ROM already inside my phone, and I proceeded to flash it. But I left the computer and phone by itself so that I could rest a bit (I've spent hours in front of the computer flashing my phone), and fell asleep. When I woke up, I noticed that the flashing failed, and it was at the tri-color screen. Then, it died on me. No battery, obviously, being stuck at the tri-color screen the whole night. Now, it doesn't charge or turn on. I know I just need a battery to run the phone. But where I'm from, batteries for the Cingular 8125 are rare, and I'm one of the few that has an 8125.
I don't know anyone who has a battery for the 8125, and there's nowhere to buy from here. Any recommendations?
First of all be sure that you haven't flashed a G4 ROM in a G3 device (or vice-versa) which would have made it a brick.
In case you haven't screwed up the bootloaders then look for the battery jump start thread that teaches how to revive a dead battery
good luck
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I was flashing my phone repeatedly last night. I've read the forums and have done about 4 successful flashes already. The problem is, I've found a WM6 rom for the Wizard that I wanted better than the ROM already inside my phone, and I proceeded to flash it. But I left the computer and phone by itself so that I could rest a bit (I've spent hours in front of the computer flashing my phone), and fell asleep. When I woke up, I noticed that the flashing failed, and it was at the tri-color screen. Then, it died on me. No battery, obviously, being stuck at the tri-color screen the whole night. Now, it doesn't charge or turn on. I know I just need a battery to run the phone. But where I'm from, batteries for the Cingular 8125 are rare, and I'm one of the few that has an 8125.
I don't know anyone who has a battery for the 8125, and there's nowhere to buy from here. Any recommendations?
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First os all your Wizard is not a brick. To revive your battery try using a wall charger to charge you battery, or you can leave it attahed to a wall charger for some time and it should start charging after 10-15 mins (becoz one i got a dead battery and did the same) Once the battery is revived then flash it to a Official ROM, afterwards any custom ROMs or what so ever. I hope i helped. TC
i've the same problem!!! i leave the phone attached the whole night to the charger...but it was in bootmode, so it doesn't charge!!! it hasn't the power to flash my phone...when it arrives to the 85% (when the phone write into the flash memory) it reboots.....what must i do? i tried to jump start...with a 12v adapter...but nothing....
It won't charge in Bootloaders,as it doesn't provide any charging circuit .The phone must have and boot up to a working OS (Windows) to start charging,only then it has a charging circuit.
Try to get a fully charged batter ,may be borrow it from a friend or try to charge your battery with friends phone,flash a rom and only it'll start to charge.
i know....but...i have not a friend with a ppc like mine!!!! and even if i'll buy a new battery....how can i charge it????? a friend of mine has a qtek 9000....but the battery is different from mine.......
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i know....but...i have not a friend with a ppc like mine!!!! and even if i'll buy a new battery....how can i charge it????? a friend of mine has a qtek 9000....but the battery is different from mine.......
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No need to buy a battery i say you use a External Battery Charger. Because even buying it would be cheaper then the battery itself and would help you in future too. I hope i helped. TC
Thanks
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First os all your Wizard is not a brick. To revive your battery try using a wall charger to charge you battery, or you can leave it attahed to a wall charger for some time and it should start charging after 10-15 mins (becoz one i got a dead battery and did the same) Once the battery is revived then flash it to a Official ROM, afterwards any custom ROMs or what so ever. I hope i helped. TC
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Thanks, dude. I never even tried charging it with the wall charger. There seems to be other people that have the same problem as I do. Now my phone is up at the tri-color screen, and I'm charging it, then Ill start flashing again. Thanks again!
No Problem but now remember if you find ppl with same problem (on the forum) dont forget to guide them to this Thread. And no need for the thanks. TC
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It won't charge in Bootloaders,as it doesn't provide any charging circuit .The phone must have and boot up to a working OS (Windows) to start charging,only then it has a charging circuit.
Try to get a fully charged batter ,may be borrow it from a friend or try to charge your battery with friends phone,flash a rom and only it'll start to charge.
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Thanks, dude. I never even tried charging it with the wall charger. There seems to be other people that have the same problem as I do. Now my phone is up at the tri-color screen, and I'm charging it, then Ill start flashing again. Thanks again!
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@ianestradalives's as zabardast_1's has said, your phone WILL NOT CHARGE unless windows Boots. Either buy a new battery or find someone with the same phone or an Orbit(as they use the same battery) also if you buy a new battery it generally arrives with enough charge to use for flashing(It did for me anyway). The only other way to do it would be to buy a dock with a second battery charging slot. Using the wall charger wont do anything except stop it from restarting ,while its plugged in.
@XDA2_haseeb why point people who have the same problem to this thread, if the answer you have given is incorrect?
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@ianestradalives's as zabardast_1's has said, your phone WILL NOT CHARGE unless windows Boots. Either buy a new battery or find someone with the same phone or an Orbit(as they use the same battery) also if you buy a new battery it generally arrives with enough charge to use for flashing(It did for me anyway). The only other way to do it would be to buy a dock with a second battery charging slot. Using the wall charger wont do anything except stop it from restarting ,while its plugged in.
@XDA2_haseeb why point people who have the same problem to this thread, if the answer you have given is incorrect?
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Dude, sorry to disappoint you, but his advice was correct. My phone is now up and running, and it has NBD 9.2. The advice he has given is correct. It works.
Ok,was your phone in Bootloaders (muliticolor screen) or with a working OS installed on it when you charged with a wall charger ?
That's exactly what was i was about to ask Zabardast_1
As there is no way he could charge his phone while it is in bootloader mode. He either had battery power already in it and messed up the flash or you have just been lucky when you took the battery out of the unit and reinserted it and there was enough power left to flash
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Ok,was your phone in Bootloaders (muliticolor screen) or with a working OS installed on it when you charged with a wall charger ?
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In bootloader screen. If you were flashing a rom and it failed, you usually end up in the tri-color (aka "Bootloader") screen. Do what haseeb said (like I did) and plug your wizard to a wall charger and wait for a few minutes. When I plugged mine, it immediately lit up. Good hunting!
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That's exactly what was i was about to ask Zabardast_1
As there is no way he could charge his phone while it is in bootloader mode. He either had battery power already in it and messed up the flash or you have just been lucky when you took the battery out of the unit and reinserted it and there was enough power left to flash
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Nope. I'm sure the battery was drained. The other night, my phone was in the bootloader screen THE WHOLE NIGHT. And yesterday, I tried reflashing, but it won't start anymore because of - obviously - no battery power.
IF you don't believe me, fail a flash and drain the battery. Then plug it into the wall. It really works.
scousemartin
YUP! thats very true.
The question here is 'How did he charge in Bootloaders with a wall charger',it has to have a working OS on it to start the charging circuit,which isn't present while in Bootloaders.
Flashing is a separate issue.
it will light up as it has power but it WONT CHARGE IT. You were LUCKY that's all and you had power in your battery. You just never realised it. If you want to prove us wrong let the battery go low and then try your revival attempt again. I guarantee you will be buying another battery or charging it somewhere else
also i have been through this personally with my xda mini-s and the only remedy was to buy another battery (or recharge it). You could leave your phone connected to the wall charger for a week and it wont make a blind bit of difference to the battery level. I know because i tried.
Anyway glad you got it sorted ,but the solution to your problem was not charging the phone. Thats all i have to say on this matter now
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also i have been through this personally with my xda mini-s and the only remedy was to buy another battery (or recharge it). You could leave your phone connected to the wall charger for a week and it wont make a blind bit of difference to the battery level. I know because i tried.
Anyway glad you got it sorted ,but the solution to your problem was not charging the phone. Thats all i have to say on this matter now
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It did get sorted. But I am really sure about the battery thing. I guess this is an anomaly. Besides, the XDA is different from a Wizard.
lol the xda mini-s is exactly the same device a 8125 is, they re both wizards
I have searched the Internet and forums for days and can't find a solution to my problem. I have found a few with the same problem, but no solutions. Please help!
I have a Sprint HTC Touch Diamond 6950SP (DIAM500) running the original ROM. A few months ago and for no apparent reason, it stopped recognizing the battery and stopped accepting a charge. I haven't messed with the phone in any way or attempted to load a new ROM. The Power Status screen simply shows, "Main battery: Unknown". Plugging the phone in with the supplied charger will actually discharge the battery and the circular LED does not come on. I tried several soft and hard resets; then I downloaded and flashed the ROM with the one from the Sprint web site (WM 6.1 Professional 5.2.20764/Build 20764.1.4.3), but nothing seemed to help. I found that I could get the battery to charge by removing the battery (with the phone plugged into the charger) and then putting it back in. When the circular LED flashes twice, I remove the battery and wait till it flashes two more times, and then put the battery back in. This takes many attempts, and eventually the LED continues to flash and will charge the battery. I did this for a long time while I searched for a solution, and one day, it just started working again!!! The phone worked great for several months and suddenly, it has started doing the same thing again.
I decided to upgrade to WM 6.5 and downloaded all the necessary applications, (many thanks to XDA and friends). But, when I attempted to flash my ROM, it stopped and indicated that my battery was too weak - even though I new it had a full charge, (see battery status, above). I've checked the battery with a multimeter, therefore, I know it has a full charge. I don't have any other problems with the phone, nor do I have any problems with it sincing to my computer. I have since ordered a new battery, but it hasn't arrived yet. Someone please help.
Thanks.
I have read at other posts that the Diamond's battery has a recognition chip in it. Also, without the battery, it will not run from the charger. Could the chip in the battery be bad? Has anyone else had this problem?
Is there a registry fix (or tweak) for the battery status? Please, one of you must know something about this.
Got my new battery - the phone does not power up, charge or anything else with the new battery. I tried charging the new battery with the method I've tried before, (see above), but it won't even light the circular LED. I checked the new battery with a multimeter, and it shows it has 3.7 volts. Now what? Any ideas would be appreciated.
that happened to me for a little while. idont know what it was but it wouldnt charge using the usb cable to any computer or even the a/c adapter but it would charge with another wall charger i had. after a couple days a friend had his psp over and i charged my phone with his cable on my computer like nothing and after wards it all worked again
Thank you so much for your reply!!!
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that happened to me for a little while. idont know what it was but it wouldnt charge using the usb cable to any computer or even the a/c adapter but it would charge with another wall charger i had. after a couple days a friend had his psp over and i charged my phone with his cable on my computer like nothing and after wards it all worked again
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I have tried other cables and chargers, but none have helped. Last time my phone started working properly, I had plugged it in to my computer, but that hasn't happened this time. Thanx for your comments - keep 'em coming.
I purchased a new charger/docking station for my phone and spare battery. It wouldn't charge my phone or the new battery I purchased either. The new battery still will not work in my phone - paper weight! The charger does charge my old battery, though. Does anyone know if you can run a Touch Diamond from the USB/charging cable without the battery installed? Mine won't, but I was wondering if it should.
Hey man
you know that happend to me when i first flashed my diamond for metro i bought a new battery and nuthing changed so what i did was a hard reset and it fixed it for me but i dont know thats just me and if u want to try it make sure u back up ur contacts with PIM backup hope u fixe it
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you know that happend to me when i first flashed my diamond for metro i bought a new battery and nuthing changed so what i did was a hard reset and it fixed it for me but i dont know thats just me and if u want to try it make sure u back up ur contacts with PIM backup hope u fixe it
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Thanks, Krzynate! I tried that already, many times now, (see my first post in this thread). Thanks anyway and please keep the posts coming.
I had the same problem.. I ended up buying a new battery and it wouldn't charge in my phone. So I ordered an external charger from EBAY for 10$. My new battery is charging so It might be the solution you are looking for.
Thank you so much for posting! As I wrote previously,
(I purchased a new charger/docking station for my phone and spare battery. It wouldn't charge my phone or the new battery I purchased either. The new battery still will not work in my phone - paper weight! The charger does charge my old battery, though.), this did not fix my problem. The vender that sold me the new (bad) battery is sending me another one - hopefully, it will work this time.
It's Fixed!!!
I wrote the Internet store where I purchased the non-working battery. They sent me another battery and now it's fixed!!! The battery indicator and status all recognize the new battery! Apparently, there is a recognition chip in the battery; the original battery's chip's software became corrupted, and the other "new" battery's chip was blank. The original battery still works, (as long as I charge it with the external charger), and still has an unrecognized status in WM 6.1. Please pass this info on to others that have simular problems. Thanx XDA!