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Hello all,
I'm just now debating on whether or not I need to exchange my new Tilt in for another one, or if this is just normal break-in behavior.
The scroll wheel is very erratic, sometimes when scrolling down it will go up instead and reversing the scrolling motion will cause it to freak out (go down once then scroll up like crazy). Also pressing the scroll wheel in to select/click on something often doesn't work forcing me to try several times to "click" on what I have selected.
The scrolling action is nowhere near as smooth as my Hermes, is anyone else having these issues?
******* separate but related issue *******
If it is indeed a hardware issue, does anyone know of a way to restore the bootloader back to AT&T's ... I flashed HardSPL and think I should probably put it back to stock.
Thanks,
Dave
same problem
i am having the same issue, wondering if i should go back to that nasty blue slut of a rom
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
I guess using the SSPL-KAIS.EXE and then flashing an AT&T om would solve that.
Cheers,
Cactus
reitjam said:
i am having the same issue, wondering if i should go back to that nasty blue slut of a rom
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I was having the same problem with the AT&T ROM, but admittedly was not running it for very long before pof released HardSPL.
That's what makes me think it's hardware related.
le_cactus said:
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
I guess using the SSPL-KAIS.EXE and then flashing an AT&T om would solve that.
Cheers,
Cactus
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Thanks Cactus,
I haven't checked the SSPL thread today, I saw that pof closed it last night because it was bricking a lot of phones. Thought he mentioned that he was going to try to get a working one out soon.
Thanks again for the reply.
sirsycho said:
******* separate but related issue *******
If it is indeed a hardware issue, does anyone know of a way to restore the bootloader back to AT&T's ... I flashed HardSPL and think I should probably put it back to stock.
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SSPL v1 is just fine to flash an SPL or a splash screen, it will not work if you flash a full NBH containing OS becuase the NBH buffer is smaller on 0.92.
thanks pof!
Erratic scroll wheel persists across ROMs
Well I flashed back to AT&T ROM this morning and have been playing with it all day, and the erratic behavior is still there.
Given that only one other person complained here, I think it might be my device. Gonna go see my AT&T guy about an exchange.
Thanks for bearing with me.
sirsycho,
Let me know if you got a new device and it is better, please. I am having issues with having to click the scroll wheel really hard to get it to register at times. On another note, unlike all the other keys on my Tilt keyboard, the 's' key barely goes down when you press it and it doesn't click like all the otthers. This causes me to instinctively hit it multiple timessss so I get a lot of Ss in a row. Anyone else?
I have the same problem. It sometimes works and sometimes it dont.
willieb9000 said:
sirsycho,
Let me know if you got a new device and it is better, please. I am having issues with having to click the scroll wheel really hard to get it to register at times. On another note, unlike all the other keys on my Tilt keyboard, the 's' key barely goes down when you press it and it doesn't click like all the otthers. This causes me to instinctively hit it multiple timessss so I get a lot of Ss in a row. Anyone else?
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My new device is on the FedEx truck for delivery today... I'm going to try it out with the standard AT&T ROM for a bit to get a good baseline and then flash to HTC's... I'll try to post an update tonight.
Thanks.
sirsycho said:
Well I flashed back to AT&T ROM this morning and have been playing with it all day, and the erratic behavior is still there.
Given that only one other person complained here, I think it might be my device. Gonna go see my AT&T guy about an exchange.
Thanks for bearing with me.
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Not you're device. I had this issue prior to unlocking, then with the htc rom and again now with the att rom. To me, it looks either hardware issue, or something lower level is the OS that is common to all current roms. PErhaps the sensitivity of the wheel needs tweaking somehow.
I had issues with my scroll wheel as well. Coming from an 8525 I was like WTF did they do to this wheel? Sometimes the click wasn't registering, but either it's broken in, or I've adjusted my habits because it seems OK now, though not as solid feeling as the 8525 was. I'm sitting here with both the 8525 and Tilt in my hands and the wheel on the 8525 is definitely better.
I'm experiencing the same problem. The wheel feels scratchy when rotated, unlike my Hermes which was smooth. Usually wheels of this type are metal contacts against a circuit board, which use a binary gray code to register direction. I'm thinking its been designed poorly. Perhaps the Hermes unit was $.02 more money.
I wonder if we can replace it with a Hermes unit?
thanks sirsycho.. Update us once you get your new one.
Update with new Tilt and ATT ROM
ok... I'm still running the ATT ROM and still having the scroll wheel issues. Exactly the same things mentioned by others here... scrolling doesn't always register and when pressing in on the wheel I have to do it a couple times before it actually works.
On a side note, it seemed to be getting better on the older device before I switched, but as was mentioned above, that might just be me getting used to the substandard hardware (both of my Hermes work sooo much better).
I'll probably try this out through tomorrow before I flash the HTC ROM... I'll post again if anything improves.
Same scroll wheel problems for me (I have a Tilt). It sounds like maybe it improves as you break it in, so I'll give it a few more days before returning. Grrr....
Same problem here with my first Tilt. I returned the next day because this thread hadn't popped up yet so I thought it was just me and one defective unit. I subsequently got one that (knock on wood) has performed much better. Still notice a few jutters here and there, but the wheel doesn't feel as "scratchy" as mentioned before.
When I had my first Tilt, I noticed it much more when moving the wheel slowly. Here's hoping the problem doesn't start again because so far so good with my new one.
hello i'm using htc Tytn II
rom version : 1.81.707.0 WWE
rom date : 09/05/07
Radio version : 1.27.12.11
Protocol version : 22.45.88.07H
CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 1825.0.4.2)
and everything works fine up,down and push.....
cheers
Just got a Tilt 3 days ago
Just got a Tilt 3 days ago and Im having the same erratic scroll wheel problem.
I see that this is an old thread, so I'm wondering if any conclusion as to this being a hardware or software problem have been made?
Thanks
in TouchIt 4.4. Guess the keyboard isn't the only difference between the Wing and the Herald
The keyboard should be the only difference. Please post this in the TouchIT 4.4 thread so that itje can see it and others can notice it and report it as a bug as well.
BTW, upside-down or just the wrong orientation?
Well, if I close the phone, its in the right direction, but if I open it, its goes into upside down landscape mode instead of proper landscape mode.
hidavi said:
in TouchIt 4.4. Guess the keyboard isn't the only difference between the Wing and the Herald
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for me HTCalbum also is sometime upside down....
But see: people with an iphone HAVE to turn it in their hands in order to use it....
hahahaha
That happens with my phone, too. It's not a ROM issue. Might be because it wasn't designed for our phones and not all phones use that side for the landscape mode.
I reflashed and it works in the right direction now. Must've been a bad flashing.
Hey Guys.....i was referred to this website by the HTC customer care......
I am in serious trouble.....
I bought this new tilt which had the At&t rom and worked really great.....Dont know what got into me.....I read a lot about custom roms and I installed Duttys official WM 6.1 after installing the Flash Hard SPL......It was perfect except the phone call function wasnt working any more.....I mean when I called my home number....i got the ring, but when the phone is picked up i couldnt hear anything nor did anybody on the other side.....I tried this many times on different numbers....
Realizing the mistake I downloaded the latest tilt rom from the HTC website and installed it......The phone restarted fine....screen alignment.....showed the today screen and then it goes through all the AT&T customization......The phone restarts after the customization.....shows the AT&T initial screen and then the 3G animation......after that it goes to a very dim dark blue blank screen.......the phone is on...the key lights turns on when clicked.....but the today screen doesnt boot up......This is were I am rite now.....stuck with this blank dark blue screen......The phone goes to standby more after about 1 min I guess.....and when the phone is waken up from the standby mode I see a screen with a mixed color screen.....I am not talking about the red blue green boot loader screen....this is colors all over the screen.....each pixel is different color.
I dont know what to do.....
Please if anyone can give me some advice and help me out......
Thank you so much in advance.....
did u hard reset after flashing?
blessanjoseph said:
Hey Guys.....i was referred to this website by the HTC customer care......
I am in serious trouble.....
I bought this new tilt which had the At&t rom and worked really great.....Dont know what got into me.....I read a lot about custom roms and I installed Duttys official WM 6.1 after installing the Flash Hard SPL......It was perfect except the phone call function wasnt working any more.....I mean when I called my home number....i got the ring, but when the phone is picked up i couldnt hear anything nor did anybody on the other side.....I tried this many times on different numbers....
Realizing the mistake I downloaded the latest tilt rom from the HTC website and installed it......The phone restarted fine....screen alignment.....showed the today screen and then it goes through all the AT&T customization......The phone restarts after the customization.....shows the AT&T initial screen and then the 3G animation......after that it goes to a very dim dark blue blank screen.......the phone is on...the key lights turns on when clicked.....but the today screen doesnt boot up......This is were I am rite now.....stuck with this blank dark blue screen......The phone goes to standby more after about 1 min I guess.....and when the phone is waken up from the standby mode I see a screen with a mixed color screen.....I am not talking about the red blue green boot loader screen....this is colors all over the screen.....each pixel is different color.
I dont know what to do.....
Please if anyone can give me some advice and help me out......
Thank you so much in advance.....
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ummm what happens when you do a hard reset?
To perform a hard reset place two fingers, one of the left softkey and one on the right, and insert the stylus into the reset hole to the right of the usb port.
let the phone reboot and tell me what happens.
blessanjoseph said:
Hey Guys.....i was referred to this website by the HTC customer care......
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HaHa thats too funny they referred you to xda maybe they can keep up with all the complaints because I cannot.
anyhow tell us what happens after hard reset
lol........i find that amusing too,
your issue sounds like a radio problem.......
when you boot up your device, tell us what number is next to the red R
XtreMe_G said:
lol........i find that amusing too,
your issue sounds like a radio problem.......
when you boot up your device, tell us what number is next to the red R
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shouldn't be a radio issue if he downloaded the latest tilt rom from htc website because a radio is attached with that rom.
Sorry....forgot to mention that.....I did do hard reset by holding down the soft keys and by inserting the stylus......It goes through the entire cycle of reloading....today screen....customization and finally I end up with the blank screen I talked about before which comes right after the windows screen at the startup.....
blessanjoseph said:
Sorry....forgot to mention that.....I did do hard reset by holding down the soft keys and by inserting the stylus......It goes through the entire cycle of reloading....today screen....customization and finally I end up with the blank screen I talked about before which comes right after the windows screen at the startup.....
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after you inserted the stylus while holding down the two softkeys "calender" "contacts", did the device inform you to hit the "send" key on two occasions?
yea, i noticed that......but what he described is what happens when you have an incompatible radio.....
the only thing i can think of is......the radio from hell.....
XtreMe_G said:
yea, i noticed that......but what he described is what happens when you have an incompatible radio.....
the only thing i can think of is......the radio from hell.....
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good call but did dutty ever put it with one of his roms? He wouldn't be that mean
maybe he can tell us what it says when it boots up...the R G D numbers..since he probably cant go to start and device info for us
R 1.65.17.10
G 25.83.40.02H
D 1.62.00.00
This is what I see at the startup....at the bottom of the screen with a At&t background.....
lol...... good call mate.
blessanjoseph said:
R 1.65.17.10
G 25.83.40.02H
D 1.62.00.00
This is what I see at the startup....at the bottom of the screen with a At&t background.....
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Here read this thread. Hopefully you can figure it out. Like XtreMe_G stated you got the radio from hell. You must of installed it before dutty's rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337
woot!!! i pwns
XtreMe_G said:
woot!!! i pwns
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hell ya you do. I should go rick roll myself now.
Yes I did press the send key twice....Once to confirm the reset and second one to restart the device.....I just now did it once again to be sure and still in the same page.
Ends up with a blank screen....goes to stand by....when waken up gives me a mixed color screen.....looks like somebody used different color spray paint on my lcd screen....
blessanjoseph said:
Yes I did press the send key twice....Once to confirm the reset and second one to restart the device.....I just now did it once again to be sure and still in the same page.
Ends up with a blank screen....goes to stand by....when waken up gives me a mixed color screen.....looks like somebody used different color spray paint on my lcd screen....
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well you installed the radio from hell before you installed dutty's rom thats why you couldn't hear anything.
Now you need to remove it or find a compatible rom.
So read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393337
good luck.
THanku.....THanku.....THanku.....THanku.....
Ohhhh.....thank you all.....for your time effort and all the advice and information.....
The last thing the HTC customer care representative told me was that ill have to send in the device to fix it up.....
I followed exactly like it said in the link and Hurray.......my phone is alive......
Thanku all once again.....
The best forum ever....
Guys did i have that phone call problem because of the hard SPL or Duttys Official WM6.1. If it was because i installed the hardspl first, can I go back to Duttys Official WM6.1 without any future problems by just flashing the ROM with duttys WM straight skipping the hardspl step..
I really liked that version....but wud like to make phone calls obviously....I know the mistake is from my part....screwed up somewere....cause I see so many ppl using custom roms without any problems...
Please tell me what could be the best solution....
Thanks a lot...
The camera autofocus indicator is supposed to turn green and then the pic will be taken. This happened the day i bought the cell. I changed to different shoot options and it worked.
At night i installed world card mobile, used it to recognise a business card. the autofocus feature worked and it recognised perfectly. i tried again with the same card, but this time the app hung and i had to do soft reset. I didnt use the camera again till the next day.
And thats when i realised that the autofocus feature was no longer working. The camera will make the focusing noise, the screen gets brighter, the navigation wheel lights up, but the white brackets do not turn green. Instead they display a red cross.
Having searched the forums, i found a few threads describing the same symptoms, but no solution. Someone mentioned using the camera application 6.01 from BEPEs rom... that didnt work for me.
I have done a hard reset using the original stock rom, latest shaks rom and duttys rom and bepes 0.99d rom... No relief...
Stock
ROM - 1.93.720.2 WWE
date - 8/7/08
Radio - 1.00.25.07
Protocol - 52.29.25.12G
DIAM140 64M
SPL-1.93.0000
I have the 2g EDGE only diamond.
Its under warranty, hopefully they will replace the cell, but i would prefer if a solution could be found. If possible, can some one who doesnt have this problem upload their camera.exe? Or am i being naive in assuming that simply replacing the camera.exe will solve my problems?
Thanks in advance,
Amith
Well, since you already tried to hard reset your device (multiple times even) and still it doesn't work, then you surely can rule out that it's a software problem...
I think you broke it my friend
If I was you I should go to the store where you got it since you have warrenty and all... One tip: flash your phone to the original rom (the rom you had when you bought it). If they see another rom on it, they probably won't help you
I had flashed it to the stock rom from the htc india site in the morning. Went to the shop in the afternoon. Today being a holiday, the shop was closed. Came back disappointed. Tried taking pics with the camera throughout the day. The focus only showed a red cross and the pics were clearly out of focus... And then...
It starts working again! On its on. I mean, I was hopeful something like this might happen, so I was trying taking pics every hour or so. And all of a sudden, the autofocus is back on. I took some 15 pics one after the other, only 1 pic [somewhere in between, dont remember which one] displayed the red cross, but even for that pic, the focus was proper...
The phone has had the stock rom for some 10 hours now. I dont know what caused the problem or what rectified it... I think i will play with it for a few more days, if it happens again, am going back to the shop.
Strange, eh??
strider.am said:
I had flashed it to the stock rom from the htc india site in the morning. Went to the shop in the afternoon. Today being a holiday, the shop was closed. Came back disappointed. Tried taking pics with the camera throughout the day. The focus only showed a red cross and the pics were clearly out of focus... And then...
It starts working again! On its on. I mean, I was hopeful something like this might happen, so I was trying taking pics every hour or so. And all of a sudden, the autofocus is back on. I took some 15 pics one after the other, only 1 pic [somewhere in between, dont remember which one] displayed the red cross, but even for that pic, the focus was proper...
The phone has had the stock rom for some 10 hours now. I dont know what caused the problem or what rectified it... I think i will play with it for a few more days, if it happens again, am going back to the shop.
Strange, eh??
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I guess miracles do exist
Hope it stays in a working state! But you should go to the shop nonetheless, having it checked out... while you still have warranty
sonnybravo said:
I guess miracles do exist
Hope it stays in a working state! But you should go to the shop nonetheless, having it checked out... while you still have warranty
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make sure u reflash the original SPL too, otherwise you warranty will be voided
mugglesquop said:
make sure u reflash the original SPL too, otherwise you warranty will be voided
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Good point, 4got to mention that
as luck would have it, the autofocus aint working again... though there is some interesting news...
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3273
as per the above link, the touch pro received a minor rom upgrade that includes fixes for
The display of TouchFLO 3D sometimes may appear cracked.
When taking a picture, the auto focus function may malfunction in some circumstances.
In some circumstances, the preview screen will become black after taking picture.
In some circumstances, the device may hang while loading TouchFLO 3D.
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is it possible to somehow find out what the fix was? maybe someone with a touch pro could download the rom and post its camera.exe?? maybe i should start a thread in the touch pro forum pointing to this post and request help there? what do you guys feel?
i took the cell to the vendor, he couldnt figure anything out. he said i was the first one to present this problem to him. the only option left for me is to take it to the service center where it will remain for atleast a week as per the vendor
Auto focus Polaris
I do have the same problme as you do. I tryed several things to repare this autofocus problem, but nothing is working! I m really disapointed in HTC. If they cant make a good auto focus, why do they try it!! I can't make good photos anymore with my Polaris, so i hope that this(touch pro file) will help to create a solution. I will not bring my polaris back to Htc because i dont want to lose all my progs and files!! Please find a solution !!! If it is a hardware problem HTC SUCKS!!!
Thanks for all!!
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Is it laggy and slow in every program? For me it works very well. Only thing is my m-key is kinda broken, not a software issue i figure though.
zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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That's how my m-key is broken, one in ten times it types two Ms on one press. But it isn't like that on any other character.
kanchigo said:
if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck
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it's not located in a specific rom... every 6.5 rom create the problem.
@jablko yes, every program...
zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
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exactly the same to me.
l0rdsheva said:
exactly the same to me.
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same here, altough I had the same problem at my original WM 6.1
Same issue
l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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I have experienced same issues like you did. The Fn key works only when I put lot of pressure on it (didn't succeed to determine which is the most suitable position) so, I've been forced to find other alternatives (soft keyboards). But, what's important is to find out if this is a hardware problem or is simply related to the new ROM installments which I play with...
Any opinion/suggestion is more then welcome...
Thanks
It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331
oh let me tell you something real that is happening.
1.keyboard is crap if u dont use the buttons daily ,you will have this problem(i have it too)
2. same as my camera button( i press half way to auto focus and then press it fully to take a picture. but now it auto focus and when i press fully,the camera will auto focus again and shoot the pictures )
i dunno what is wrong with X1 ,but htc has make a bull**** things for SE.(happy that SE decided to leave them).
ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.
l0rdsheva said:
ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.
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Now that's hardcore!
Jablko said:
Now that's hardcore!
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no problem, it's already out of warranty and if it goes wrong is time to buy another device!
crava said:
It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331
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I reached to the same conclusion like you did. Seems like most of the SE X1 keyboards have problems, as well like the battery life (btw, last night, in stand-by mode, my X1 battery drained out completely without having any process/program running)...
Speaking about SE X1 in general, yes could be taken as a kind of failure but we don't have to forget is made by HTC. So, they could be blamed as well for this lack of success!
Or maybe there was also a sabotage around, who knows?
time to get X2