Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
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Luca
l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Is it laggy and slow in every program? For me it works very well. Only thing is my m-key is kinda broken, not a software issue i figure though.
zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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That's how my m-key is broken, one in ten times it types two Ms on one press. But it isn't like that on any other character.
kanchigo said:
if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck
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it's not located in a specific rom... every 6.5 rom create the problem.
@jablko yes, every program...
zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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exactly the same to me.
l0rdsheva said:
exactly the same to me.
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same here, altough I had the same problem at my original WM 6.1
Same issue
l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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I have experienced same issues like you did. The Fn key works only when I put lot of pressure on it (didn't succeed to determine which is the most suitable position) so, I've been forced to find other alternatives (soft keyboards). But, what's important is to find out if this is a hardware problem or is simply related to the new ROM installments which I play with...
Any opinion/suggestion is more then welcome...
Thanks
It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331
oh let me tell you something real that is happening.
1.keyboard is crap if u dont use the buttons daily ,you will have this problem(i have it too)
2. same as my camera button( i press half way to auto focus and then press it fully to take a picture. but now it auto focus and when i press fully,the camera will auto focus again and shoot the pictures )
i dunno what is wrong with X1 ,but htc has make a bull**** things for SE.(happy that SE decided to leave them).
ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.
l0rdsheva said:
ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.
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Now that's hardcore!
Jablko said:
Now that's hardcore!
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no problem, it's already out of warranty and if it goes wrong is time to buy another device!
crava said:
It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331
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I reached to the same conclusion like you did. Seems like most of the SE X1 keyboards have problems, as well like the battery life (btw, last night, in stand-by mode, my X1 battery drained out completely without having any process/program running)...
Speaking about SE X1 in general, yes could be taken as a kind of failure but we don't have to forget is made by HTC. So, they could be blamed as well for this lack of success!
Or maybe there was also a sabotage around, who knows?
time to get X2
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Hi guys,
I have a problem with my o2 xda stellar where I can be typing a message on the hardware keyboard but even though I'm hitting all of the keys correctly its still missing the odd letter - it seems as if its simply not picking it up. I've disabled the word suggestion feature and this has helped a little but the problem still remains. Its driving me bonkers!
Any help would be much appreciated.
Yes, it's one of the things that made me regret buying this f****** phone in the first place.
Read this, might help you to a certain extent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347457&highlight=double+letter
As soon as I installed the HTC keypad + keyboard cab it started happening so I removed it.
JDSX said:
As soon as I installed the HTC keypad + keyboard cab it started happening so I removed it.
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I've never installed that although it does look like and interesting concept.
I found disabling word suggest worked to improve the recognition rate. Still have to be careful with the first word I type, but otherwise it is ok. Might give it a try with autocorrect off (but I like it auto-adding the ' in nt).
The same thing happened on my Hermes and my Wizard (both of which I turned suggest off on), so I wasn't surprised that the Kaiser did it (although it was almost tolerable with autocorrect on, which the Wizard really really wasn't).
I've tried the suggestions in this thread and the other linked thread but with no success. My hermes used to do this, but when I upgraded to the WM6 beta it seemed to fix the problem on that device. I've not tried the 6.1 roms - can anyone comment on whether the problem is still evident on those? (I'm guessing it will be).
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I've tried the suggestions in this thread and the other linked thread but with no success. My hermes used to do this, but when I upgraded to the WM6 beta it seemed to fix the problem on that device. I've not tried the 6.1 roms - can anyone comment on whether the problem is still evident on those? (I'm guessing it will be).
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I think its still there, the problem that I was having was if I were to type "this is a test" I exprienced delays with my spacebar...it would spell out
"thisi sa t est". and it would do it EVERY single time. I later found out that it was directly tied into HTC Keyboard and Keypad b/c once I removed this, it wouldnt do it anymore. (Looks like TouchPal for me). However, on Dutty's Beta 1 I didn't experience this problem, but other WM6.1 roms I did. Of course with Dutty's I had to jump through hoops to get the keyboard and Touch Keypad to work cooperatively and maybe this "fixed" it...who knows. BTW I have the Tilt version of the Kaiser.
Hi guyz
I just bought a TyTn II device. I don't know whats gone wrong with it that it is giving me annoying sound when its awake but surprisingly when i turn off the screen the sound goes off. its very annoying just like some bee is there behind..
I wonder if i using some wrong radio 1.65.24.36 with PDACORNER v16ultimate, Hard SPL 3.29[as per the recommendation of cook]. I tried to change the radio but to no avail. it seems its more than that.
i dont know if there is some hardware problem or what. but its really making my experience painful. Kindly suggest your remedies.
come on guyz, hardware techies suggest me what needs to be done, I am really worried with the entire thing. I wish to know if it has been faced by someone or if there is any remedy out there?
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Hi guyz
I just bought a TyTn II device. I don't know whats gone wrong with it that it is giving me annoying sound when its awake but surprisingly when i turn off the screen the sound goes off. its very annoying just like some bee is there behind..
I wonder if i using some wrong radio 1.65.24.36 with PDACORNER v16ultimate, Hard SPL 3.29[as per the recommendation of cook]. I tried to change the radio but to no avail. it seems its more than that.
i dont know if there is some hardware problem or what. but its really making my experience painful. Kindly suggest your remedies.
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Here are some simple questions..........
Did this happen right after installing this rom? Did you have the rom on there a while before it started? did you install any other software between installing the rom and when the buzzing noise started?
Have you tried hardresetting ? ( complete wipe and reinstall of current OS )
Have you tried other spl's? ( as the spl controls things on a hardware level?)
Honestly, to me as a hardware tech, it sounds as though its hardware related. I had a backlight inverter on my laptop cause an odd buzzing sound, but ... maybe its not that...
poor I tried to port hard spl 3.56 but to no avail.
I wish if someone else can help me out. This is really getting very difficult for me to listen to calls with this buzz sound in the back. Kindly help me someone. someone said its a problem of moisture but I am not sure if it is. Bro kindly suggest me if it is the case.
Not much any of us can do at this point -- it sounds like a hardware problem.
Send it in for service.
anybody had this problem. Poor the service company is closed for few days.
I hope someone can help me out with his experience. I wonder if the moisture thing is correct.
How about you answer some of those questions. That guy is trying to help you.
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How about you answer some of those questions. That guy is trying to help you.
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Or he could continue his whining, and get nothing accomplished.
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Or he could continue his whining, and get nothing accomplished.
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That certainly is an option.
tbrown5175 said:
Or he could continue his whining, and get nothing accomplished.
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He obviously cannot speak English and is posting through google translate, but still some details would be helpful.
I think the Humming (Bee like noise) is to do with the way the backlight works, try turning the brightness all the way up! It mihgt eliminate it. Mine has always made that noise but since it got replaced (broken usb port) it does not make it as loud much to my relief!
Find some reason to get it replaced
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Here are some simple questions..........
Did this happen right after installing this rom? Did you have the rom on there a while before it started? did you install any other software between installing the rom and when the buzzing noise started?
Ans:not specifically as I do Rom flashing every other day & there was no problem after that ever.
Have you tried hardresetting ? ( complete wipe and reinstall of current OS )
Ans:Yes I tried doing that but to no avail.
Have you tried other spl's? ( as the spl controls things on a hardware level?)
Ans: yes i did as i mentioned my last post. but didn't work either.
Honestly, to me as a hardware tech, it sounds as though its hardware related. I had a backlight inverter on my laptop cause an odd buzzing sound, but ... maybe its not that...
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Thanks mate for your concern.
but do you have any personal experience? or someone in your friend circle had this? i never seen anyone with this annoying problem. some mechanic said its a usual problem of the chip of every flip style phones.
@others
I am afraid if I gave you an impression of being non-english speaker. Kindly stay to the point. I am more concerned about solving my problem rather than showing my english language skills.
Hope some solutions from my friends are on their way.
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hey chumaleyex,
Brother I am please to see you taking so much interest in this thread but would you care to suggest me something constructive. I am very well proficient with software thing but zero about hardware so felt like asking. But it seems you are more interested in something else but not the issue which I want to get addressed. Kindly give your valuable views so I could see the problems eradicated. The service center of HTC in my city is close for 1week so have to do something with my friends help on xda only.
hope someone I see who had faced this problem or someone in the mechanical field. Thanks allover.
hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well, when i type something some times work perfect but some time some letters dont print, per example i wrtie "E X S A M P L E" and look the screen and saw "E X A P L", its a kind of lag or something, jog wheel sucks too when i move up/down dont respond very well, i am using my own rom, but ive tried somany and its the same, my kaiser its a tilt with winmo 6.1 in spanish with tytn ii to tilt fix, i try some reg tweaks that i found in XDA but its like the same, any idea???
wolframio74 said:
hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well, when i type something some times work perfect but some time some letters dont print, per example i wrtie "E X S A M P L E" and look the screen and saw "E X A P L", its a kind of lag or something, jog wheel sucks too when i move up/down dont respond very well, i am using my own rom, but ive tried somany and its the same, my kaiser its a tilt with winmo 6.1 in spanish with tytn ii to tilt fix, i try some reg tweaks that i found in XDA but its like the same, any idea???
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I'm stuck with the same thing. I've got a MDA Vario III.
I hope there's someone out there who can fix this. it's very irritating.
Thanks in advance.
BTW. The lag is everywhere in the phone (touch-screen-keyboard, softbuttons, hardbuttons, etc... )
wolframio74 said:
hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well
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Already discussed in the sticky p) Speed Up Your Keyboard (Fixes Lag On Hardware Keyboard) thread. There is a cab there but in my experience it may interfere with multimedia playback.
try that long time ago without lucky... regards!
As some get older a few keys will get harder. There is about four keys on mine that I really have to press hard for it to register. Its a known problem, I read about it several times.
More info needed to progress
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try that long time ago without lucky... regards!
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If you've only tried the reg edits as you mentioned in your first post, try the cab because your symptoms are identical and it definitely made a difference on my device to keyboard responsiveness and I see no reason why it should be any different at all with yours. Of course that won't fix sticking or faulty keys, only replacement parts will do that but unless it's usually the same letters that don't respond (is it?), that's unlikely to be the issue. What else have you already tried (specifically)?
UPDATE, CABS, dont Work, but i am tring without auto completetion and lower suggested words.... i give 2 or 3 days then cook my room like that
worked perfectly for me!
thanks a million!
i reduce suggested words to 1, get the reg key for windows mobile 6.1 in spanish from my own ROM, then cook it again, work almost perfect... so i can say "WORK DONE"
I don't know if it's the new rom or just the 'age' (3 month now)...
But since approx. two weekes, by typing messages on the x1 keyboard it doubles or even tripples the letter n, sometimes m? This very annoying...
Anyone have the same problem? All other keys work normal...
Anyone knows how to set a delay at the keyboard? When I press a key and hold it, it take half a second or so until it multiplys the letter. This time i would like to change. Any registry entry?
Thanks for the help...
same issue .. not only m and n on my side..
refer to this post 4 further infos...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644
same mine. it's only dust
Mine's the opposite. My 'M' doesn't seem very sensitive. My words always seem to miss that 'M'. But the one that's real sensitive is the '.'. That seems to appear all the time.
it started like this with me .. the "M" alone was the problem ..
now the whole keyboard triples EVERYTHING ! -.-''
we really need help
I had that issue briefly with a R2A German Generic I tried. Never happened again though .
You can improve the situation by lowering the rate at which your key strokes are repeated by going to Settings > Buttons then on the "Up/Down Control" tab if you move the first slider to Slow and the Repeat Rate slider to Slow then the problem sort of "disappears"
I had the same issue with a lot of keys, i, m,n,k,l etc...
I did a hard reset and upgraded my rom, installed sms-chat... did everything but the issue persisted.
Finally i took it to the service center and they replaced the plate underneath which senses the keystroke.
It works fine now...
i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.
hatlo0or said:
i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.
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Exactly how did you cleaned your keyboard? I want to clean it by myself too.. Which tools did you use?
I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken
hatlo0or said:
I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken
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Thanks a lot man!.. i'll give it a try and post the results cause this is a very common problem with the x1's. And probably as common as the cracks on the silver x1's.
Again.. Thanks a lot!
try this fix
i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also
disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.
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disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.
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Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
aww wut? i have a problem with my X key as well! i have to push harder to use it and i really dont want to fiddle around with the parts into to clean it.
Great
Hkt said:
Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
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Ok, I have done it oncemore - and it seems it helped. Although I am sure it was not dirty from "outside". I would say, it was the sticker or the glue from the sticker which made the contacts dirty.
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i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also
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how does this work what does it do any idea?
I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.
andreitu said:
I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.
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how long did you spend without your x1? sending it to getting it back because obviously if its gonna take 2 weeks then i'll be hesitant to send it :S
Hey people i m new here and i flashed my xperia couple days ago with the christian rom and worked everything fine. but last night i wanted to send a message and i slided my keyborad as usully but the phone wouldnt go to landscape mode and the screen stud still, then i slided down and it changed to landscape mode and quckly back to portrait mode. Is the keyboard broken or is that the roms folt
Did it happen only once? If yes, then it's not a problem. Give the OS some time to settle lol. If not, flash another ROM and see what happens.
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Did it happen only once? If yes, then it's not a problem. Give the OS some time to settle lol. If not, flash another ROM and see what happens.
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its like that now everytime i want to use the keyboard and i tried at least 3 roms and i get the same problem
tnx for the response
xperiaboki said:
its like that now everytime i want to use the keyboard and i tried at least 3 roms and i get the same problem
tnx for the response
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It's clearly a hardware problem. Sorry man, but you'll have to send/take it to a repair shop .
I hate hardware problems..
orelsi said:
It's clearly a hardware problem. Sorry man, but you'll have to send/take it to a repair shop .
I hate hardware problems..
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i can't explain you realy good cuz my english is bad,but when i slide it up the screen would'nt turn and is standing still something like lag or what but when i type the keyborad buttons and slide it back down it changes quickly to landscape mode and back to portrait and everything that i typed is showen on the screen as it should be when the keyborad was normal
I understand 100% .
It can't be a software problem, because you have tried at least 3 different ROMs. The only explanation is a hardware problem. One of the parts of the is broken and it must be repaired/replaced.
We cannot help you . It's a hardware problem.