Anoing problem with hard keys/keyboard - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well, when i type something some times work perfect but some time some letters dont print, per example i wrtie "E X S A M P L E" and look the screen and saw "E X A P L", its a kind of lag or something, jog wheel sucks too when i move up/down dont respond very well, i am using my own rom, but ive tried somany and its the same, my kaiser its a tilt with winmo 6.1 in spanish with tytn ii to tilt fix, i try some reg tweaks that i found in XDA but its like the same, any idea???

wolframio74 said:
hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well, when i type something some times work perfect but some time some letters dont print, per example i wrtie "E X S A M P L E" and look the screen and saw "E X A P L", its a kind of lag or something, jog wheel sucks too when i move up/down dont respond very well, i am using my own rom, but ive tried somany and its the same, my kaiser its a tilt with winmo 6.1 in spanish with tytn ii to tilt fix, i try some reg tweaks that i found in XDA but its like the same, any idea???
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I'm stuck with the same thing. I've got a MDA Vario III.
I hope there's someone out there who can fix this. it's very irritating.
Thanks in advance.
BTW. The lag is everywhere in the phone (touch-screen-keyboard, softbuttons, hardbuttons, etc... )

wolframio74 said:
hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well
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Already discussed in the sticky p) Speed Up Your Keyboard (Fixes Lag On Hardware Keyboard) thread. There is a cab there but in my experience it may interfere with multimedia playback.

try that long time ago without lucky... regards!

As some get older a few keys will get harder. There is about four keys on mine that I really have to press hard for it to register. Its a known problem, I read about it several times.

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wolframio74 said:
try that long time ago without lucky... regards!
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If you've only tried the reg edits as you mentioned in your first post, try the cab because your symptoms are identical and it definitely made a difference on my device to keyboard responsiveness and I see no reason why it should be any different at all with yours. Of course that won't fix sticking or faulty keys, only replacement parts will do that but unless it's usually the same letters that don't respond (is it?), that's unlikely to be the issue. What else have you already tried (specifically)?

UPDATE, CABS, dont Work, but i am tring without auto completetion and lower suggested words.... i give 2 or 3 days then cook my room like that

worked perfectly for me!
thanks a million!

i reduce suggested words to 1, get the reg key for windows mobile 6.1 in spanish from my own ROM, then cook it again, work almost perfect... so i can say "WORK DONE"

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words repeating (reaaaaaaalyyyy repeeeeeeeeeatinggggggggg)

joey jojo said:
i just have one problem, when typing on my keyboard, sometimes, not all the time, keys stick and after pressing a key i get something like thissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
is this fixable??, is anyone else having this problem???
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I'm having this problem. And the sms delay on writting too. It is a real annoyance 'cause I can not write nice poems to my love anymore. :?
But I think would be better to open another thread. So I'm doing it...
PD: the prooooooooooooooooblemmmmmmmmmmmm with words repeating were showing on 2003SE also....
i also get it but only on wm5
annoyance
c'mon, people, nobody with a solution???
I have the same problem.
Some programs in WM5 tend to take up processor cycles, and appear to be causing the problem.
Problem is, there are MANY possible programs (causes).
For me, the most common cause is Internet Explorer. Go to "Memory" in Settings, and close all tasks. Then try using the keyboard again. If it works, then you know that's the cause. Then, you can try to narrow down the program that's the processor hog.
Good luck!
turn down the repeating speed, it is in start>settings>keyboard>repeat settings. set it low so it will not repeat like that
First of all, thanks for your answers!
TheGadgetGuy said:
Some programs in WM5 tend to take up processor cycles, and appear to be causing the problem.
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Yeah, I thought so, anyway I'm having the same problem on the SMS window. It seems to do a redraw (or better, a recalc) every time I push a letter on my keyboard, and it looses words. Took me 'bout 10 times to get the right number on the 'To:' field. I was always getting +3423888888888 etc...
TheGadgetGuy said:
Go to "Memory" in Settings, and close all tasks. Then try using the keyboard again.
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At no avail. Doesn't work...
obiesoft said:
turn down the repeating speed, it is in start>settings>keyboard>repeat settings. set it low so it will not repeat like that
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I think you mean: start>settings>system>keyboard>Repeats setting
Doesn't work for me either. The sliders are on its lowest position...
Didn't you guys are having this havoc on your devices??
I don't know what is happening with my baby
Any Ideas??
Maybe a little fix.
Also had a problem about the words repeating thing.
But that time my device is downclocked to 299mhz by that time.
I did a soft reset first then overclocked my device to 531mhz.
after writting a message it seem to have improved significantly.(But it still lags
for a second or half sometimes.)and the words repeating seems to be gone.
But im not totally quite sure.Still need to check it more.And tell you how's it going.
O and lastly im just wondering how come it's soo slow to open a message and switch to other messages?Unlike 2003 se which only takes a second or soo......
I'm using pocket hack master to over/downclock my device.
XDAIIS
Re: Maybe a little fix.
Ok, i'll try that....
brentchua said:
Also had a problem about the words repeating thing.
But that time my device is downclocked to 299mhz by that time.
I did a soft reset first then overclocked my device to 531mhz.
after writting a message it seem to have improved significantly.(But it still lags
for a second or half sometimes.)and the words repeating seems to be gone.
But im not totally quite sure.Still need to check it more.And tell you how's it going.
O and lastly im just wondering how come it's soo slow to open a message and switch to other messages?Unlike 2003 se which only takes a second or soo......
I'm using pocket hack master to over/downclock my device.
XDAIIS
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arieltools said:
Yeah, I thought so, anyway I'm having the same problem on the SMS window. It seems to do a redraw (or better, a recalc) every time I push a letter on my keyboard, and it looses words. Took me 'bout 10 times to get the right number on the 'To:' field. I was always getting +3423888888888 etc...
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The reson for the redraw, I think, is the number of characters in the message display at the bottom (i.e 1/168)
If I write an email the redraw problem is not present - if I swith to SMS it comes back...
Yeah, a clever think would be to switch this counter off. I haven't found it on the registry, nor a hack.
My question: if before it was ok, why change it?
Well anyway it is not the only reason for this word repeating problem. It appears on other programs also.
And no solution yet
Haven't had time to try brentchua solution...
ulfthomas said:
arieltools said:
Yeah, I thought so, anyway I'm having the same problem on the SMS window. It seems to do a redraw (or better, a recalc) every time I push a letter on my keyboard, and it looses words. Took me 'bout 10 times to get the right number on the 'To:' field. I was always getting +3423888888888 etc...
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The reson for the redraw, I think, is the number of characters in the message display at the bottom (i.e 1/168)
If I write an email the redraw problem is not present - if I swith to SMS it comes back...
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What worked for me was to turn off the "suggest words when entering text" option. You'll find it in settings - personal - Input -Word completion...
dblfun said:
What worked for me was to turn off the "suggest words when entering text" option...
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Yeah, at the end we will have a very advanced phone capable of doing nothing useful because everything has to be turned off... :evil:
(suggest words, bluetooth, AD2P, Wireless, Video frame problems, slow phone answer, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc :evil: :evil:
stop complaining... if u don't like it just downgrade back to 2003 se and everything will work. You should realise that the blue angel wasn't made for WM5. That it works with WM5 is great...but as long as there is no official release u shouldn't complain..... It's just the way it is...
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stop complaining... if u don't like it just downgrade back to 2003 se and everything will work. You should realise that the blue angel wasn't made for WM5. That it works with WM5 is great...but as long as there is no official release u shouldn't complain..... It's just the way it is...
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1- I'm complaining because this problem was already happening on 2003se (please, read above).
2- After so many problems with bluetooth, AD2P, etc, don't you think we deserve more attention from the ones that sold this devices to us?
3- If I stay on WM5 is because I realize the BA performs just ok on this OS. I'm using it mainly for work purposes.
4- Complaining is also a way of start doing things later. Something has to come first... :!: I've complained to I-mate about this problem when I had the original 2003se. No answer to date. That's why I decide turn back here and do this wonderful upgrades to my device.
What I find is this forums (as all of them in the 'net) are quite hard to search and find answers. Somehow we should find the answers given and put them in a common place (the good answers!!) i.e. the Wiki!
Anyway, what I'm looking for is answers and share them...
etc-.
ad2p
My keyboard problems seems to have almost dissapeared after turning off the word correction option. It seems is a CPU intensive program or so... Inside Word, however, the problem sometimes arises...
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Any ad2p with blueangel and wm5 yet, boys? I can't find anything but this:
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option...=view&id=6376&catid=26&limit=15&limitstart=45
But it seems there's still problems...
no avail
I´m having again this problem. I´ve done what have been suggested about changing the registry values for adjusting the priority values... still having this problem.
I use the device for writing a lot and any help would be very handy.
Anyone, please?
Thanks!
problem is fixed in newer roms which pagepool size have been increased.
try the AKU3.5 ROMs

"W" letter

hey ive been having this problem for the past couple days and was wondering if anyone has experianced the same thing or could shed abit of light on it.
basically whenever writing a text, or word document or typing a web address, etc and i click on the letter "w" nothing comes up and the phone crashes, doesnt let me type anything, goes super super slow and doesnt really respond to nething so i have to reset it. this happens when using the "w" on the on screen keyboard and on the pull out keyboard.
i havnt dropped it recently and its in perfect condition, also havnt installed anything recently that may hav caused it. it just seemed to randomly start happening. will have to try a hard reset if theres no other solution, but any ideas would be greatly appreciated?
I would suggest a hard reset. If it is a software error that should do the trick.
But i guess this has something to do with hardware. I had that problem with my wizard. The commanager button caused the device to crash. Once I opened it I found about 1 kg of dust sitting behind the button. Once that was out of the way the device was normal again.
edit: Just try opening the device as a last resort.
here you can find the service manual. Link removed - no longer valid
thanks mate, may try a hard reset then. but i'll leave it till weekend after exams have finished as its quite time consuming installing everything again, etc.
i perhaps should have mentioned that it only crashes if "w" is the first letter i use. if i type something else an then use it, it seems to work. (altho i havnt tested this properly, i'll assume this is usually the case). just seems like a very strange problem to get
anywayz, thank you for ur advice
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
fade2black said:
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
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haha thank you.. umm.. its the default one that came with the t-mobile mda vario III. was working fine up until the other day.. whats this keyboard fix u speak of tho?
I have almost the same problem with my "w" key also. I have to press it longer than i do other keys to get it to type a "w" and when i do it causes a slow down on my phone.
sounds like its time for a song..
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1022602
lol.. u can spell out the name of the band without the letter W.. so its good.
flobots - No "W"
anyway.. on topic.. wat rom is A7LAS using?

Buttons not always working!

Alright, heres the story.
I've had the unlocked HTC TyTn II for a few months now(april i believe), and it worked fine up until about 2 weeks ago, i noticed some of the buttons werent responding every time.. almost like the phone freezes, but its random, and doesnt freeze(i slide the keyboard and screen switches, still no response from buttons.) I'll be typing a text without looking, and end up like this:
ye dt knnw wt tie il b hoe
instead of
yea i dont know what time ill be home..
Any reason you can think of why its doing it? it seems to be hardware, because ive loaded different roms and the problem still persists.. any help would be greatly appreciated!
th1rt3en said:
Alright, heres the story.
I've had the unlocked HTC TyTn II for a few months now(april i believe), and it worked fine up until about 2 weeks ago, i noticed some of the buttons werent responding every time.. almost like the phone freezes, but its random, and doesnt freeze(i slide the keyboard and screen switches, still no response from buttons.) I'll be typing a text without looking, and end up like this:
ye dt knnw wt tie il b hoe
instead of
yea i dont know what time ill be home..
Any reason you can think of why its doing it? it seems to be hardware, because ive loaded different roms and the problem still persists.. any help would be greatly appreciated!
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some of the latest builds have been doing this. I suggest trying these roms which I haven't had keyboard issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394263
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393383

Unresponsive/heavy QWERTY keys

Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.
fireblade63 said:
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.
I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.
It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.
My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...
So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..
have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?
yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...
you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.
Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.
Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...
Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...
Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome
Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?
Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
killerbeans said:
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.
I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.

W 6.5 Roms: Keyboard Problem

Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Is it laggy and slow in every program? For me it works very well. Only thing is my m-key is kinda broken, not a software issue i figure though.
zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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That's how my m-key is broken, one in ten times it types two Ms on one press. But it isn't like that on any other character.
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if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck
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it's not located in a specific rom... every 6.5 rom create the problem.
@jablko yes, every program...
zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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exactly the same to me.
l0rdsheva said:
exactly the same to me.
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same here, altough I had the same problem at my original WM 6.1
Same issue
l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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I have experienced same issues like you did. The Fn key works only when I put lot of pressure on it (didn't succeed to determine which is the most suitable position) so, I've been forced to find other alternatives (soft keyboards). But, what's important is to find out if this is a hardware problem or is simply related to the new ROM installments which I play with...
Any opinion/suggestion is more then welcome...
Thanks
It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331
oh let me tell you something real that is happening.
1.keyboard is crap if u dont use the buttons daily ,you will have this problem(i have it too)
2. same as my camera button( i press half way to auto focus and then press it fully to take a picture. but now it auto focus and when i press fully,the camera will auto focus again and shoot the pictures )
i dunno what is wrong with X1 ,but htc has make a bull**** things for SE.(happy that SE decided to leave them).
ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.
l0rdsheva said:
ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.
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Now that's hardcore!
Jablko said:
Now that's hardcore!
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no problem, it's already out of warranty and if it goes wrong is time to buy another device!
crava said:
It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331
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I reached to the same conclusion like you did. Seems like most of the SE X1 keyboards have problems, as well like the battery life (btw, last night, in stand-by mode, my X1 battery drained out completely without having any process/program running)...
Speaking about SE X1 in general, yes could be taken as a kind of failure but we don't have to forget is made by HTC. So, they could be blamed as well for this lack of success!
Or maybe there was also a sabotage around, who knows?
time to get X2

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