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"W" letter

hey ive been having this problem for the past couple days and was wondering if anyone has experianced the same thing or could shed abit of light on it.
basically whenever writing a text, or word document or typing a web address, etc and i click on the letter "w" nothing comes up and the phone crashes, doesnt let me type anything, goes super super slow and doesnt really respond to nething so i have to reset it. this happens when using the "w" on the on screen keyboard and on the pull out keyboard.
i havnt dropped it recently and its in perfect condition, also havnt installed anything recently that may hav caused it. it just seemed to randomly start happening. will have to try a hard reset if theres no other solution, but any ideas would be greatly appreciated?

I would suggest a hard reset. If it is a software error that should do the trick.
But i guess this has something to do with hardware. I had that problem with my wizard. The commanager button caused the device to crash. Once I opened it I found about 1 kg of dust sitting behind the button. Once that was out of the way the device was normal again.
edit: Just try opening the device as a last resort.
here you can find the service manual. Link removed - no longer valid

thanks mate, may try a hard reset then. but i'll leave it till weekend after exams have finished as its quite time consuming installing everything again, etc.
i perhaps should have mentioned that it only crashes if "w" is the first letter i use. if i type something else an then use it, it seems to work. (altho i havnt tested this properly, i'll assume this is usually the case). just seems like a very strange problem to get
anywayz, thank you for ur advice

nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?

fade2black said:
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
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haha thank you.. umm.. its the default one that came with the t-mobile mda vario III. was working fine up until the other day.. whats this keyboard fix u speak of tho?

I have almost the same problem with my "w" key also. I have to press it longer than i do other keys to get it to type a "w" and when i do it causes a slow down on my phone.

sounds like its time for a song..
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1022602
lol.. u can spell out the name of the band without the letter W.. so its good.
flobots - No "W"
anyway.. on topic.. wat rom is A7LAS using?

vibrating on startup

is there any way to prevent diamond from vibrating on startup?
thank you!

There probably is but it woudl mean you have to go through the registry to find the relevant keys and adjust them. I myself dont know which keys would do the job but im sure someone here will be able to help you out.

Now this is probably not the answer you are looking for - but why? Not trying to flame or anything, but I've noticed sometimes a lot of energy can be spent on irrelevant problems. With all due respect, this seems like one of those to me.
A bit more to the point - I strongly doubt a registry value can change that - the vibration occurs apparently BEFORE the operating system is loaded, so registry is meaningless at this point.

I think the phone does a self-test....like said before: it does vibrate before the OS loads, so I don't think there is any registery tweak for this

Caspertje19 said:
I think the phone does a self-test....like said before: it does vibrate before the OS loads, so I don't think there is any registery tweak for this
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Ya it does, it cheks all the systems on startup. So be worried if it does NOT vibrate, means your vib crappppeddd out.
Cheers boys

pedmond said:
Now this is probably not the answer you are looking for - but why? Not trying to flame or anything, but I've noticed sometimes a lot of energy can be spent on irrelevant problems. With all due respect, this seems like one of those to me.
A bit more to the point - I strongly doubt a registry value can change that - the vibration occurs apparently BEFORE the operating system is loaded, so registry is meaningless at this point.
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sure it's one of the less important things...
but for me it's a annoying one because i always let spb-backup do a daily backup (which is rebooting after the job) early in the morning when i'm still sleeping - it was fine with trinity (there i had also to do a reg-tweak to disable startup-animation with sound) - with diamond sometimes i get scared from the vibration...
and yes - i'm not sleeping like a log...

endebe said:
sure it's one of the less important things...
but for me it's a annoying one because i always let spb-backup do a daily backup (which is rebooting after the job) early in the morning when i'm still sleeping - it was fine with trinity (there i had also to do a reg-tweak to disable startup-animation with sound) - with diamond sometimes i get scared from the vibration...
and yes - i'm not sleeping like a log...
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Hehe - I see your point. Not much you can do about it though, I'm afraid.
This being said, if that vibration wakes you up, I really hope your home is VERY soundproof

Or simply put your diamond on or under a pillow.

Obviously there needs to be a movie about those horrible phones that go around terrifying people in their sleep!
That said, presumably you are putting the phone on a hard surface? Try putting it on something soft and wooly. Should significantly cut down the noise from those demonic vibrations.

Don't think there's a way to do that. The Touch Cruise does the same, and no one has figured out a way to disable it there as far as I know.
The issue with putting it on a soft surface to not make noise is (presumably) that if he did get an actual call or message, it would also silence that as well.
Can you change your schedule for SPB Backup to do its thing just as you go to sleep instead of in the middle of the night? Or if you don't always sleep at the same time, kick it off manually just as you go to sleep or step into the shower?
I know these don't solve your question, but are ideas to create the desired outcome

i hope i am not ruining this important topic with my high tech proposal for a solution.....
maybe it will be less stressful if you'll program the back up at a different hour....let's say ....when you are brushing yr teeth in the evening....BEFORE you go to sleep.
the back up (thanks god for SPB backup, it saved my ass so many times) takes only 3-4 minutes. right before you'll go to the lalala world you'll hear the reassuring vibe and you'll fall asleep with a smile on yr face knowing that the job is done.
good night, sweet prince. good night back-uped diamond....

I love how this topic gets so many replied but more usefull problems get none. Got to love the internet
I could code you a microcontroller to ignore any vibration signal for the first 30 seconds from start. All you'd need to do is open your diamond and solder it inside.
Hey its a solution

someone1234 said:
I love how this topic gets so many replied but more usefull problems get none. Got to love the internet
I could code you a microcontroller to ignore any vibration signal for the first 30 seconds from start. All you'd need to do is open your diamond and solder it inside.
Hey its a solution
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lol! yr solution is very low tech comparing with mine...that's all you got?

This phone is driving me nuts

This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
I synct some playlists to the phone with windows media player 10, suddenly all playlists on my diamond are empty.
When i removed all the playlists on windows media player 10 to sync them again, it deleted all my songs!
now i got all my songs onto the device again, and wanted to alter 1 playlist, it took windows media player 6 minutes, to just alter, replace, 1 pooping playlist!\
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
Half of the icons in the games folder are ****ed up, we already have a thread with solutions(i tried all of them), but none of them worked.
And the performance, even with the tlr rom or whatever the name was, the diamond still goes slow!
And the battery depletes quickly, with auto attach off, and incoming beam off.
Cant receive a file with bluetooth, with incoming beam on or off, it keeps saying my pc is a new device and asks if i want to set a password, no matter if i set a password or not, it goes back to the menu, and still says my pc is a new device
And i used a mod of the diamond tweaks thread, to auto lock my diamond when the screen goed off.
Well, 1/5 times, it autounlocks itself when i turn the screen back on. not good...
And finally, the opera browser is sometimes not doing what i want. sometimes goes to a random place on the page, if i move and let the stylus go, it moves back to that random page, to fix this i need to quit, then restart opera.
This happens about 1/5 times i use opera.
Is this where i payed 481 euro's for...?
Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.

borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
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Nothing to complain about the phone?

marco899 said:
Nothing to complain about the phone?
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what do you mean?
theres a whole list of bad things there.
btw: forgot to mention that the diamond stylus made some nasty scratches on the screen when wiping over the screen in opera to scroll page, or goto next photo in touchflo, ect.

Got a protector included for that.
Install a fresh rom, I don't have any of your problems.
I use bluetooth a lot:
Sending files (goes hell fast), don't want to use cable when using .cab files here
For my parrot
For use as a modem (have reached 120kbyte/second) when online with phone!
All flawless.
I have very very good results with HTC's own new rom update via e-club.
TLR nr. 2 was quite buggy at my phone.
GOod luck!

borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
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Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.
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Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine

czbird said:
Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine
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what have you got now may i ask?

Humbly returned to my previous P535.
I must admit that apart from Diamond, there is currently not many devices to choose from on the market... Was thinking about getting P750, but still unsure...
Xperia scares me, mainly because of the unusual screen resolution (dunno how all the apps will handle it) and that also is supposed to be made by HTC...
Maybe Diamond Pro will not suffer from these newborn diseases that my Diamond had - will see...

i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
the touch diamond really disappoints me...

borgqueenx said:
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
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Use the hardware buttons beneath the screen. You can navigate to the playlist you want to delete, and hold the 'enter' button to get the menu to get the 'right mouse button menu'.
Using your fingers it is impossible as it automatically selects the playlist if you press it. No menu will pop up.

borgqueenx said:
i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
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What do you mean? It will be much cheaper than the Diamond.
I wonder if you're expecting to install applications on that phone, or do any customization...

Mwahahahahahha!!!!
Another Winer! XD
I'd give this post 5/5 for creativity, 6/5 for whining and -1 for usefullness ^^
you can almost FEEEL that you joined only after buying the phone, and I'd guess that it's your first WM one..
Anyway, regarding your problems..
If your phone really is that bad, it's probably broken (pre-production, grey, some dimwit dropped it in the shop or any other reason). In any case, return it by warranty, and get a new one..
Having so many people love this phone, and being able to fix the issues.. and only you and a handful of others run around whining.. Surely it's obvious that it's either a lack of hands.dll or a simple hardware failure..
I mean you should be smart enough to grasp it.... ermm.. right?
Cheers
P.S. Oh, and please don't be offended by this post.. It was mainly inspired by your post anyway, but it was written half-jokingly as I couldn't really answer seriously to that amount of QQ

@ 205_laCoste...
You're my hero.
Had a lot of trouble removing two playlists, but using the hardware buttons solved it right away....
Thank You!

I'm ready to throw my diamond out the window, for pretty much the same reasons. I paid way too much money to have so many problems. And I shouldn't have to flash a new rom. It should be good to go out of the box.
Before I'm also accused of being a whiner, there is a plethora of posts of people having the same problems....with no solutions. The bluetooth issue is a biggie. I tweak my phone to enhance it, but I shouldn't have to be a programmer to simply make it function properly. To suggest that is just arrogant.
There are things that I absolutely love about this phone, but simply as a phone it sucks.

most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.

I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA

czbird said:
I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA
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I have to agree, to an extent.
It's generally accepted on here that the Diamond is badly configured out of the box, which is why new users are recommended to flash a new ROM. This is not a good thing, although it's great we have such a good community of chefs to help solve the problem.
What's less well accepted is that much of the HTC software on the Diamond is slow and awkward. I'm talking about TF3D and the HTC dialer in particular, get rid of them and you can make the Diamond a great little phone just like your P750.

964rs777 said:
most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.
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I upgraded to 1.93. And I'm quite proficient at reading and researching. I'm also very proficient with current technology. I get it. What you don't get is that a consumer spending big bucks on this phone shouldn't have to resort to advanced tweaks (which I understand, BTW...you won't find me here asking newbie questions) in order to bring the phone up to basic performing standards.
Again.....yours is a fine example of ignorance masking itself as arrogance.

Anoing problem with hard keys/keyboard

hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well, when i type something some times work perfect but some time some letters dont print, per example i wrtie "E X S A M P L E" and look the screen and saw "E X A P L", its a kind of lag or something, jog wheel sucks too when i move up/down dont respond very well, i am using my own rom, but ive tried somany and its the same, my kaiser its a tilt with winmo 6.1 in spanish with tytn ii to tilt fix, i try some reg tweaks that i found in XDA but its like the same, any idea???

wolframio74 said:
hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well, when i type something some times work perfect but some time some letters dont print, per example i wrtie "E X S A M P L E" and look the screen and saw "E X A P L", its a kind of lag or something, jog wheel sucks too when i move up/down dont respond very well, i am using my own rom, but ive tried somany and its the same, my kaiser its a tilt with winmo 6.1 in spanish with tytn ii to tilt fix, i try some reg tweaks that i found in XDA but its like the same, any idea???
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I'm stuck with the same thing. I've got a MDA Vario III.
I hope there's someone out there who can fix this. it's very irritating.
Thanks in advance.
BTW. The lag is everywhere in the phone (touch-screen-keyboard, softbuttons, hardbuttons, etc... )

wolframio74 said:
hi all since i got my kaiser always have just one problem, some times keyboard dont respond very well
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Already discussed in the sticky p) Speed Up Your Keyboard (Fixes Lag On Hardware Keyboard) thread. There is a cab there but in my experience it may interfere with multimedia playback.

try that long time ago without lucky... regards!

As some get older a few keys will get harder. There is about four keys on mine that I really have to press hard for it to register. Its a known problem, I read about it several times.

More info needed to progress
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try that long time ago without lucky... regards!
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If you've only tried the reg edits as you mentioned in your first post, try the cab because your symptoms are identical and it definitely made a difference on my device to keyboard responsiveness and I see no reason why it should be any different at all with yours. Of course that won't fix sticking or faulty keys, only replacement parts will do that but unless it's usually the same letters that don't respond (is it?), that's unlikely to be the issue. What else have you already tried (specifically)?

UPDATE, CABS, dont Work, but i am tring without auto completetion and lower suggested words.... i give 2 or 3 days then cook my room like that

worked perfectly for me!
thanks a million!

i reduce suggested words to 1, get the reg key for windows mobile 6.1 in spanish from my own ROM, then cook it again, work almost perfect... so i can say "WORK DONE"

W 6.5 Roms: Keyboard Problem

Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca

l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck

I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Is it laggy and slow in every program? For me it works very well. Only thing is my m-key is kinda broken, not a software issue i figure though.

zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
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That's how my m-key is broken, one in ten times it types two Ms on one press. But it isn't like that on any other character.

kanchigo said:
if U want to have helps, U shuold tell us what's rom are U using or U want to use, so people, who have had experiences with that ROM will tell U how...
Goodluck
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it's not located in a specific rom... every 6.5 rom create the problem.
@jablko yes, every program...

zannyboy said:
I've had a similar issue to this too since using the 6.5 roms, also along with the lag it double inputs the character selected sometimes. If anyone knows a fix fort his would be greatly appreciated.
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exactly the same to me.

l0rdsheva said:
exactly the same to me.
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same here, altough I had the same problem at my original WM 6.1

Same issue
l0rdsheva said:
Hi guys, i'm using on my x1 windows mobile 6.5 rom since first beta. I have tried alla kind of rom. As far as i know i have always had a problem that create me some trouble. The x1 hardware keyboard seems laggy and very slow. Also FN key take a lot of pressures to activate. Someone else is having the same problem? Just to know if it's mine broken. I don't want to go back to 6.1 to try.
Thanks
Luca
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I have experienced same issues like you did. The Fn key works only when I put lot of pressure on it (didn't succeed to determine which is the most suitable position) so, I've been forced to find other alternatives (soft keyboards). But, what's important is to find out if this is a hardware problem or is simply related to the new ROM installments which I play with...
Any opinion/suggestion is more then welcome...
Thanks

It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331

oh let me tell you something real that is happening.
1.keyboard is crap if u dont use the buttons daily ,you will have this problem(i have it too)
2. same as my camera button( i press half way to auto focus and then press it fully to take a picture. but now it auto focus and when i press fully,the camera will auto focus again and shoot the pictures )
i dunno what is wrong with X1 ,but htc has make a bull**** things for SE.(happy that SE decided to leave them).

ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.

l0rdsheva said:
ok so seem to be an hardware problem; i'll dismount mine x1 to see if there's dust or something else under the keyboard.
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Now that's hardcore!

Jablko said:
Now that's hardcore!
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no problem, it's already out of warranty and if it goes wrong is time to buy another device!

crava said:
It's not a wm 6.5 related problem... there're tons of guys having this problem, and soon they're going to increase, cause it seems to get worse with time...
my keyboard has reached an unusable state, and the left half of the keyboard type twice or nothing.
The first thing you can try is to longer the time for input replication... if it doesn't work, then send it to SE, and hope to receive it back in a little time
I'm waiting to find a good alternative to X1, then send it to assistance, and when it comes back sell it... never buying SE products anymore
searching with google get many results... this is the first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489331
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I reached to the same conclusion like you did. Seems like most of the SE X1 keyboards have problems, as well like the battery life (btw, last night, in stand-by mode, my X1 battery drained out completely without having any process/program running)...
Speaking about SE X1 in general, yes could be taken as a kind of failure but we don't have to forget is made by HTC. So, they could be blamed as well for this lack of success!
Or maybe there was also a sabotage around, who knows?

time to get X2