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Hi all, i am stuck, i need the help of the experts in either saying my 2 Qtek 9100s are bricked - chuck them or, they are retreivable.
Here goes:
2 X Qtek 9100 made by T-mobile - emei if needed.
Both devices stuck on the boot screen, but will both go in to Tri colour screen for flashing, but fail flashing (with several roms), i think they have button rom, its a beer glass.
GSM: - 01.12.10
OS: - 1.5.4.2
ipl 1.01 and spl 2.24
Can these be revived?
Thanks.

A Wizard by T-Mobile is a "MDA Vario", you can't have a Qtek9100 by T-Mobile. Anyway..
Have you tried flashing official ROM while they are in bootloader mode (tri colour)? Does the flashing process went smoothly? Does the IPL/SPL change when you flash the latest ROM? Give more info.

More info
At present both of them are stuck on the info below, i cant reflash them with anything else now.
Official T-mob rom 2.26 will not work...think the error was [239] or something.
Thanks.

lokidan said:
At present both of them are stuck on the info below, i cant reflash them with anything else now.
Official T-mob rom 2.26 will not work...think the error was [239] or something.
Thanks.
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sounds like u didn't accomplish step 16 of 'the definitive guide to unlocking & rom upgrading G3 wizards' by Dr Puttingham.
both IPL AND SPL need to be the same

lokidan said:
At present both of them are stuck on the info below, i cant reflash them with anything else now.
Official T-mob rom 2.26 will not work...think the error was [239] or something.
Thanks.
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what was the exact error.. post the code and error msg.

i got the same problem
ipl/spl 1.01
i tried "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE"
many many time but nothing
please help

bigfatjack said:
i got the same problem
ipl/spl 1.01
i tried "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE"
many many time but nothing
please help
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Since your ipl/spl are 1.xx just follow the sticky by Dr. P at the top of this forum. You will start at the step running lokiwiz as you don't have to downgrade. Then upgrade to an official 2.xx rom. After that you can flash a custom rom.

errors
Various error messages with various roms.
Invalid vendor
Invalid nkbf file
Upgrade only
I believe that these devices were upgraded by a user who perhaps did not fully unlock them.
Is it possible these devices would exhibit these error if they were flashed with a G4 rom, or would they just not boot if that was the case?
Thanks ALL

lokidan said:
Various error messages with various roms.
Invalid vendor
Invalid nkbf file
Upgrade only
I believe that these devices were upgraded by a user who perhaps did not fully unlock them.
Is it possible these devices would exhibit these error if they were flashed with a G4 rom, or would they just not boot if that was the case?
Thanks ALL
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Well, the only difference between a G4 and a G3 rom is that the G4 rom will not contain IPL/SPL. If you flashed a G4 rom in a G3 device you are fine. If you flashed a G3 rom into a G4 device then you have bricked your devices.
In your case you haven't finished the unlock/downgrade process. like mentioned above you seem to have missed step 16.
You need to re-flash the button rom to get both the IPL and SPL to 1.01. Once that is done then flash an OFFICIAL carrier rom (T-Mobile 2.26 suggested). When you have completed that then your IPL/SPL will both be 2.26. From THIS point you will be able to flash a custom rom, you will have no success until then. The unlocking guide that is stickied contains everything you need to recover from your situation.
The 2 steps that most newbies forget is to downgrade a second time to get IPL/SPL to 1.01 and after you are completely unlocked then upgrade to an official carrier rom that includes IPL/SPL (note this unlocking procedure is not for G4 devices -- doing this will brick them) Once your IPL/SPL are 2.xx THEN you can flash custom roms.

Unlocking them
Thanks ZZan, i think though i have actually blown the rom with button, but it does not bring the ipl/spl down to 1.01, it appears to blow the rom and complete 100% reboots and comes up with button Beer glass and goes no further.....
Err help?

lokidan said:
Thanks ZZan, i think though i have actually blown the rom with button, but it does not bring the ipl/spl down to 1.01, it appears to blow the rom and complete 100% reboots and comes up with button Beer glass and goes no further.....
Err help?
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Have you tried booting into bootloader and putting your carrier's latest rom back into it? I would suggest this. If all works and you can get completely back into the phone, you could try to unlock again starting from the beginning.
The only way you could have really hurt your device is if it was a G4 before you started, or interrupted the flash process while the bootloaders were being written. I don't think it would even boot up to that screen, or flash to 100% if this were the case though. It sounds like a bad flash from the first button attempt. I would suggest using a carrier rom from the carrier that the phone is locked to to get it back to working status. Once there then you can try to downgrade and unlock again.

Are they G3 or G4
How do i tell again, something to do with the ipl/spl revisions?

You can also try re-downloading the button rom and performing the downgrade again. I have the button rom in my sig. it's possible the rom may be damaged in some way.

G3 or G4.. from the wiki
A G3 Wizard will have the following
IPL: 1.xx or 2.xx or 2.xx.00x (Note that this version only has TWO 0's.).
SPL: 1.xx or 2.xx or 2.xx.00x (Note that this version only has TWO 0's.)
A G4 Wizard will have the following
IPL: 2.xx.000x (Note that this version has THREE 0's.)
SPL: 2.xx.000x (Note that this version has THREE 0's.)

button rom
Any ideas where i can get this rom from?
thanks.

Ignore me
just seen it on your footer

It flashes but....
it goes all the way through 100%, reboots and sits on rom boot screen exibiting:
IPL 1:01
SPL 2.24
GSM 01.12.10
os 1.5.4.2
And a nice picture of a beer glass....
Help, should i reflash again? i Have done it 3 times and it still sits on boot....
Thanks.

lokidan said:
it goes all the way through 100%, reboots and sits on rom boot screen exibiting:
IPL 1:01
SPL 2.24
GSM 01.12.10
os 1.5.4.2
And a nice picture of a beer glass....
Help, should i reflash again? i Have done it 3 times and it still sits on boot....
Thanks.
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You said your phone was a T-Mobile phone. Flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom and see if you can get it to finish booting. If so THEN you can retry the button rom. You are in a corrupt state right now. Whatever caused it, it doesn't look like the button rom is going to recover you from it. Flash the official carrier rom for your phone and get it back to working status first. Once you can use the device and phone then you can go back and start from the beginning of the unlocking thread.

T-mob original
I have tried T-mob original (RUU_Prodigy_2210206_22102109_021911_TMO_UK_WWE_Ship.exe)
[294] invalid vendor ID
I have tried t-mob (RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe) using NoVendorID and nk.nbf from above rom - Flashed 100% complete - rebooted - stuck on Button boot screen (beer Glass) and not booting.
Button itself will flash, with the same result, looks like its doing it then reboot, halt on beer glass.
I have i trully bricked these two? i cant have they flash and go to boot loader surely they would not do this if i had totally bricked them???
Help....

T-mob
Weird, it has upgraded the IPL to 1.06 (from 1.04) though, does this mean anything to anyone?

Problem with downgrading Radio 3.08 to 2.61

This is what started it all...
flashed from WM6 TI2 to "XDA Mobile 6.0.0"
my phone is fully unlocked and tried to downgrade my radio from 3.08 to 2.61. It was still showing 3.08 after downgrade..
next, i flashed to "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE" thinking that i would do it from the start. it downgraded my radio to 1.01
after downgrade:
1- load good, i can notice some lag on the start button
2- tried to upgrade to radio 2.26 - after reboot, still say 1.01
3- when rebooting once, it loop on the IPL/SPL splach screen.
I tried several time to reflash again and again, i cannot get to upgrade the radio.
P.S. i now see a extended_rom2 in the storage card... first time i saw this one. Even after flashing the "button's 1.05 ROM" i still see the HTC logo before the IPL/SPL screen show...
Any help is greatly apreciated... how can i get a clead rom (clear ROM) and install the OS.

try doing the tmo 2.26 full rom install. and make sure you take out the sd card before starting.

Are you sure you have Radio 3.08?
I am pretty sure there isn't a Radio version 3.08. There are IPL & SPL version 3.08, these are not Radio ROMs though these are the boot loader (Initial Program Loader, Secondary Program Loader).
In Settings, System & Device Information it should say 'Radio Version: xx.xx.xx'. Check there.
I could be wrong however..........
Andy

ADB100 said:
I am pretty sure there isn't a Radio version 3.08. There are IPL & SPL version 3.08, these are not Radio ROMs though these are the boot loader (Initial Program Loader, Secondary Program Loader).
In Settings, System & Device Information it should say 'Radio Version: xx.xx.xx'. Check there.
I could be wrong however..........
Andy
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yes, you are right, it's IPL/SPL .... (ok... newb slap)

frappy666 said:
yes, you are right, it's IPL/SPL .... (ok... newb slap)
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You should be OK with them. I have been flashing my Wizard very frequently and have stayed with IPL/SPL 3.08 for over a month so far without any issues. Be aware though that if you flash a custom ROM that contains the IPL/SPL portion it will replace the 3.08 you have now with whatever is included. I now always either cook my own ROM or if I try a pre-cooked one I remove the IPL/SPL, bootscreens, Radio & Extended ROM before flashing my Wizard.
HTH
Andy

OK, i would like to get rid of the "HTC" logo on boot... seems that it's causing some problem.
boot: 1- a "HTC" logo (probably been installed with the "XDA Mobile 6.0.0" ROM)
2- the logo with a beer mug aprar with the IPL/SPL info.
3- the screen go white after a while and reboot.
3- goto 1

ADB100 said:
You should be OK with them. I have been flashing my Wizard very frequently and have stayed with IPL/SPL 3.08 for over a month so far without any issues. Be aware though that if you flash a custom ROM that contains the IPL/SPL portion it will replace the 3.08 you have now with whatever is included. I now always either cook my own ROM or if I try a pre-cooked one I remove the IPL/SPL, bootscreens, Radio & Extended ROM before flashing my Wizard.
HTH
Andy
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I wish... but i'm stuck with IPL/SPL 1.01 ... i'm unable to change it.

ok, i "solve" the problem. reinstalled the original ROM on my 8125 and upgraded to WM6. Work well so far...

help can't upgrade, have followed the steps

1-15. Done
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
when i try this I can't get the SPL to go back, IPL is fine, but i've tried 4 sucessive times, no chance..
I then tried this :-
Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me )
that went ok, and then I tried flashing roms, but the only one I can get to work is the Wizzard Love ROM.
I'd love to run WM6 but i can't, if i try the other ROMS they flash ok, but I just go back to the Wizzard ROM when it reloads
any ideas ?
very many thanks, Will

Will_Plaice said:
1-15. Done
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
when i try this I can't get the SPL to go back, IPL is fine, but i've tried 4 sucessive times, no chance..
I then tried this :-
Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me )
that went ok, and then I tried flashing roms, but the only one I can get to work is the Wizzard Love ROM.
I'd love to run WM6 but i can't, if i try the other ROMS they flash ok, but I just go back to the Wizzard ROM when it reloads
any ideas ?
very many thanks, Will
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"17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with."
'Now you SHOULD have a IPL and SPL of 2.26 to work with. If not, you screwed up! Don't attempt to install someone's hard work and ***** before you do these steps!'
EDIT for Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me
Well,
You missed the all important step 17,flashing the T-mobile 2.26,this cud have given you solid IPL/SPL 2.26 to work on,Instead opted for Edit to step 17,flashing 3.08.
Your device is not CID unlocked,download WST tool and check the status of your phone,
secondly you shudn't have upgraded your ipl/spl to 3.08,till you were sure your phone is cid unlock and both the ipl/spl are the same.
anyway download the wst tool to check your phone's status and post the report here,

bugger...
i tried another rom and am stuck in the bootloader...
i have 3.08 for IPL and SPL
I think the WST will not work from the bootloader (and i can't find it to download)
any further sugestions ?
I have tried both the t-mobile and button roms
tia will try not to do any more damage ;-)

Will_Plaice said:
bugger...
i tried another rom and am stuck in the bootloader...
i have 3.08 for IPL and SPL
I think the WST will not work from the bootloader (and i can't find it to download)
any further sugestions ?
I have tried both the t-mobile and button roms
tia will try not to do any more damage ;-)
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In this particular situation no rom will flash,the only option is to get the IPL/SPL back to 1.xx,only than you can unlock.
If you are in boot loader,try to flash buttons 1.05 again,if worked,ok. otherwise download the latest official rom from the carriers site and flash,it will work and bring back your phone in working status.then flash button's 1.05 to unlock with lokiwiz02b.
Are you having any sdcard in your phone,remove it,it'll help,sometimes sdcard freezes the boot loader,by removing it,boot loader mode is released,good luck

many thanks, i came across a IPL SPL 2.26 only ROM and this I managed to get to flash, and with your advise I now have WM6
thanks, Will

Will_Plaice said:
many thanks, i came across a IPL SPL 2.26 only ROM and this I managed to get to flash, and with your advise I now have WM6
thanks, Will
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THANKS
Glade it's up and running

what is wrong with my XDA Mini S

Short version:
I have an xda Mini S
ipl 1.01
spl 2.21
OS 10.1.0.811
I was running the mfrazzz WM6 I think it was vers XM6r5 RC1. I tried to updgrade my ROM to a new one because if issues I was having with this version. It was great but I could no longer surf the web and my unit would crash with the WAN and internet running.
I had to CID unlock my phone last July to get this XM6r5 RC1 to run (I believe I did anyway).
Today I attempted to flash the button ROM to my phone and it made it about 22% then the phone reset and crashed (started to loop on and off at the green, yellow and blue screen). Now it starts to update the rom but most of the time it reenters that loop shortly after the button rom app starts. The battery was full when I started. I have tried 2 different PC's with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Additional info: the reason I tried to upgrade the phone was it would crash when accessing the web via wifi (just recently). When connected to the PC it was fine. If I used the wifi sometimes it would work for 5 mins sometimes none but everytime I would it would crash and start to loop on and off crashing at the splash screen showing the IPL and SPL. The only way to recover it was to pull the battery. It is now doing this reboot loop at the bootloader screen when it crashes).
I hope thats not TMI but I really want my phone working again.
I just discovered that it will start the reboot sequence regardless of whether it is plugged in or not. It will start randomly rebooting once it is turned on. I tried installing the RUU Hermes Qtek rom and now it is telling my my ipl is 2.26 as well as my spl.
Please help!

hi
I have a o2 mini s too mine is g4 i dont know yours but if you have hard spl you shouldnt flash official rom if you said that you have 2.26 ips slp then you should not have problems flashing to your official rom but if that doesnt help use the wizard love.
Hope i help.

gdtymze
Its really strange,if you say you had XM6r5 RC1,which is your device, G3 or G4 ?,cuz if you have a G3 phone,how come you have ipl 1.01 and spl 2.21.wm6 roms cannot be installed with ipl1.xx,got to have ipl/spl 2.xx. Also you say you Cid unlocked the phone.Are you sure ,it was xm6r5 OS ,which was running on your phone ? How did you flash it ? with ipl 1.01 and spl 2.21 ?
Well,if you have a G4 device,its not possible to CID unlock it and IPL shud have been 2.21.0001 and the SPL is 2.21.olip ? after HardSPL and in SoftSPL IPL/SPL remains the same as the original ipl/spl e.g 2.21.0001.
Would you plz be more specific and explain what the status of your phone is and what exactly you did before ?
Cheers!

zabardast_1 said:
gdtymze
Its really strange,if you say you had XM6r5 RC1,which is your device, G3 or G4 ?,cuz if you have a G3 phone,how come you have ipl 1.01 and spl 2.21.wm6 roms cannot be installed with ipl1.xx,got to have ipl/spl 2.xx. Also you say you Cid unlocked the phone.Are you sure ,it was xm6r5 OS ,which was running on your phone ? How did you flash it ? with ipl 1.01 and spl 2.21 ?
Well,if you have a G4 device,its not possible to CID unlock it and IPL shud have been 2.21.0001 and the SPL is 2.21.olip ? after HardSPL and in SoftSPL IPL/SPL remains the same as the original ipl/spl e.g 2.21.0001.
Would you plz be more specific and explain what the status of your phone is and what exactly you did before ?
Cheers!
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Ok please bear with me my recollection is hazy on this. Last August my phone was runnging the O2 software. After checking in here I identified my phone as a G3 phone. I then checked to see if it was CID locked (after doing a posted test it appeared to be). I don't recall how I did the CID unlock. I followed the CID and flashing insructions posted somewhere in the xda-developers forum (it may have been with the rom I used (mfrazzz version) I think I flashed the original O2 xda software from the O2 site then I flashed the Wm6 to my phone I believe it was XM6r5 RC1. I think it was the XM6r5 RC1 only because when it would boot I would see 3 splash screens. First was a Cylon witht he HTC logo, followed by an orange speedometer (with the IPL listed as 1.01 and spl as 2.21 OS was 10.1.0.811 and I don't know that the GSM numbers were) and the third was the splash screen from mfrazzz (dark blue/green with mfrazzz on it). I am pretty sure it was the XM6r5 RC1 build but I could be wrong I think it was the latest at that time. It was stable for several months (basically until 2 weeks ago) when I deleted the recycle bin and temp fold from the memory card (not the device). After that if I accessed the web via wifi it would crash then go into a repeating loop and the LED would change from green to red. The only way to stop it was to remove the battery. I don't know what else to tell you. When I left it yesterday it was at ipl/spl of 2.26 after initiating a RUU hermes . . . . I left it overnight started it up with button rom and it made it 60% then started looping again and gave the error code 274. A second attemp made it to 14% then code 302 (it started to loop again. It still says ipl/spl 2.26. I'm really at a loss here.

ok, I believe,what you are saying must be true,anyway,its not common or observed or even seen to have ipl 1.xx and upgrade to a wm6 rom,untill you have a cid unlocked phone with ipl/spl 2.xx, I'm really,rather, surprised,how you got it!!! or you might have got ipl 1.xx after now again flashing Button's Rom 1.05,the second time now.
Anyhow,now download the official carrier's rom or T-mobile 2.26 or xda_minis_launch Rom and try to flash and recover back to default status and check with WST tool,speciaaly the 'CID Action' button,to verify the SIN?CID lock/unlock status of the phone, then proceed further,ok
Cheers!

I don't know how I got it either. I do know that the ipl/spl while it was working was 1.01 and 2.21. After my first few attempts to load the button rom and then a version of the hermes and t-mobile rom, my phone boots to the bootloader screen and has ipl/spl of 2.26. I have attempted the t-mobile rom a few times but the most successful was the initial attempt after letting it sit over night. It almost made it through (80%) with the t-mobile rom then it crashed and started its loops again. Subsequent attempts made it to as high as 60% and as low as 14%. Is it possible to charge the battery while it is in boot loader mode, perhaps with a wall charger and not plugged into the PC. I ask b/c I am worried my battery may be getting too low and also when it is plugged into the pc it boots automatically. Perhaps I should ask this but do you know where I can get the xda_minis_launch Rom I have searched here and google and no luck. What i did find here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades gives me an error 530 unable to switch message.
Thanks for your help!
gdtymze

ok, try out this link below,you'll find all the requirements here and guidance.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
Goodluck

Thanks! I will dl that and try that rom. Have you heard of a phone rebooting like mine does? Today once again I was able to start RUU (t-mobile) and once again it made it to just over 80% and then the phone would reboot and start looping until I removed the battery. I tried again immediately and it made it just past the phone verification before it started the reboot loop. Since then I have been letting it sit. Any suggestions or ideas as to why it would do that?
Thanks for your help.

Your are welcome !
It won't charge in bootloaders mode or from the pc via usb cable,but you can charge it with a wall charger and its always better and recommended to have a fully charged battery before flashing.
Cheers!

So if it is powered off and I use a wall charger then it should charge. When I started this process the batter had a full charge but I have no idea where it is at now that I have attempted to flash it so many time. With the new rom it only makes it about 65% then it loops. It is really starting to wear my patience.

Wizard Freeze On Bootloader. Help Plz.!

Hi mates. i was using TNT WM 6.1 Rom. and now i tried to upgrade my device to TNT 6.1 v2. but my wizard stucked at bootloader after successful upgrae.
i have ipl 3.08 and spl 3.08. then i installed the Button rom. and with that my IPL goes to 1.01 and spl 3.08 but the button rom also stucked at bootloader after successful upgrade. this was happening first time.
so kindly help me with this situation. or if there is any other rescue rom. then plz send me link.
now my wizard always stuck at bootloader screen.
Regards

You can't go from 3.xx to 1.xx bootloaders
try to restore 3.xx

i have restored the IPL to 3.08 and SPL to 3.08 but still it freezes on the bootloader window where it displays the ipl spl gsm and os info.
what i will do now. to rescue my device. actually i want to enable rapi services. but wizard service tool is not working in bootloader mode. and the device is freezed at the info screen. so any other possibility to enable rapi. so i will reflash with shell tool.?

If the CID is already unlocked then follow drugstore's thread with the mtty solution

bro the CID is not already unlocked. i flashed many times with wizard love rom / button rom / & Xdaminiis rom. but all i got is only ipl changed to 1.01 but the spl remains 3.08 so i need to downgrade the spl as well. please help..
Thanks.

im in the same situation. ipl 1.XX.... and spl 3.08 ... its a wizard G4 ... and stuck on green info screen or bootloader. help !