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Which software to use?
In my humble opinion: None......for the Qualcomm there is no software availalble to overclock it....but in time it will come...
try this out guys. application specific.
All this seems to be doing is to change the priority of the threads running certain applications. It does not overclock the CPU like OMAP did.
anyway does this work?
or its like the sktools optimization?
Any progress out there on a safe program to overclock a Kaiser? WM6 is definitely faster than WM5, but alot slower than my old Palm OS Treos.
thanks,
d
I'm also waiting for a piece of software that will allow me to overclock my Kaiser, but still there is no progress at all. As they say - patience is gods' virtue (-:
has anyone tried htc performance?
I believe I read helmi had a hand in creating it???I know this has been used on a few different devices and is very low on batti draw but no one quite knows how it works.Really makes a difference on my device but Im not sure if it would be safe to use or even work with the proccessor on the kaiser.
With the battery life as borderline as it is with the Tilt/Kaiser, I'd shy away from overclocking. You'll get lightening fast speed for the 5 minutes of battery life
ya but...
ya but... with the video drivers we're missing and an overclocker the phone would be lightning quick.Also I was reading that the reality is with the right programmers the next gen phones kaiser , dream and a few others a playstation 2 emulator on the ppc would be possible. imagine being on a plane cut off 3g and phone functions and play ps2 games on your phone. plus with extended and/or extra batteries that are now becoming available...
I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
punkhawaiian said:
I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
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Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
The prophet is slower in my opinion, I don't own a Kaiser, but whenever i use it everything happens faster than on my overclocked WM6 Prophet (overclocked to 286MHz normally).
How does the speed compare to the TyTN, mine should be here on Wednesday... I can't wait!
someone found a tool that really works ?
WOW! and I thought we had enough problem threads on here with overheat and battery deaths!
Look out for many more!!
I upgraded to kaiser from a Tmob Wing, for that I played with an overclocker called Fl0wt. Which did seem to work BUT the battery becames a flamethrower of heat and the battery life was sucked away in no time. this wasnt a big clock speed step either. The parts just arnt suited for the additional heat it seems. plus it felt dangerously hot...like "hit the dirt its going to blow" hot. not worth the risk in my oppinion...but hey thats just me
Can you post a link to "Fl0wt" ive searched far and wide and found nothing. Please post a link.
Cheers !
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Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Cybersaurus
Warfare Inc
Machines at War
Bejeweled 2
Zuma
Ackys XP Breakout
Shattered Worlds
Call of Duty 2
Darxide EMP
gfDoom
Fast Future Race
G-Prime Extreme
Interstellar Flames
Skyforce Reloaded
Quake & Quake 2
Sinbad Return of the Legends
Flux Challenge
Is this a good enough sample for you?
THE KAISER NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A VGA DEVICE. IT IS STRICTLY QVGA....NOW GET OVER IT!!!
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Call of Duty 2
Is this a good enough sample for you?
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I have Call of Duty 2 too, and it's really slow on the Kaiser compared to other devices. You should see how it runs on other PPC's...
MACkjam said:
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I have an T-mobile Kaiser and it's definitely not much faster than a Magician. The difference is really, really small.
And we're referring to the fact that there are no drivers for the ATI Imageon hardware. Thanks to this, everything needs to be rendered by the CPU.
Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
aqm5181 said:
Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
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if they are old games that could be the reason why, it doesn have support for GDI i think it is. have you tryed any emulators? GBA for example?
www.sunbug.net
Thanks for the speedy reply!
Pool Rebel is a new release but is still very sluggish. I have contacted their support team as it may just be that the game is not optimised for the cpu.
VT pocket tennis was designed for PPC2002! Used to work very well on my TYTN but is virtually unplayable on TYTN II.
Will I be able to use the emulator on games designed for PPC?
I'm not sure what is the problem, but I can comfirm that the graphic chipset integrated in MSM7200 is one of ATI Imageon product.
http://brew.qualcomm.com/bnry_brew/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
from the data sheet, the performance should be said as good, so perhaps the new graphic chipset is not supported?
Maybe HTC has disabled most of the Video chipset functionality, they have a habit of disabling everything before launch! *Shakes fist*
It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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Just imagine the Touchflo cube interface with D3D. Mmm.
wow, page 5, what game is that???
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
looks so cool for a ppc game!
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
Some benchmarks
TyTn 2 graphic is slower than HTC Mogul
http://mymobile911.com/dnn2/bBenchmarkDatab/tabid/60/Default.aspx
TyTn 2 graphic is the fastest
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=442869&sid=2ddc04dc6332d94bdbb0a5dc00627b54
ksjulsen said:
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
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this is not because it has poor graphics or has trouble playing it, it's cause PocketSnes hasnt been updated in such a long time it doesnt even support the phone completely or support teh GFX driver. however, have you tried Morphgear?
http://soft.softoogle.com/ap/morphgear-download-5321.shtml
Yeah, I tried pool rebel too ... and damn, it is so slow
Any reply from their support?
Btw, any good game for this Kaiser? The one that is nice and fast.
Support have replied. They will be adding Direct X support for the game in future release although have not specified when. That should hopefully improve performance. I have tried the following games and they work well:
Flux Challenge
Sky Force
Sky Force Reloaded
Resco Guardians
Anthelion 2
Argentum
Explode Arena
KRally
Snails
SPB AirIslands
Stolen In 60 Seconds
Cheers
as stated in the title.. what does that term means?
its associated with the htc diamond
recently am looking at games like call of duty and tony hawk proskater 2, both having 3d graphics that are able to use the GPU on board the Pocket pc..
but does the diamond truly has GPU? is it powerful? and does it enhance 3d gaming performances?
i tried call of duty2.. its not really pretty... i do rmb installing the hardware accelerated copy of COD2
i was wondering is there a way to play 3d games on the tilt. ive tried to download some but they wouldnt work. it seems it only work on SE, Symbian,or Nokia phones. Is there something i can install so 3d games are playable. Thanks in advance for anyone who attempts to help
I dont do much gaming, but I'll chime in here a little. Symbian, and UIQ games will only work on the Symbian and UIQ OS's.
3D Games on the Kaiser
I don't do much gaming either, but I don't think some 3D games will work on the Kaiser right now because it has no 3D hardware graphics acceleration. It has the hardware for it, however it does not have the proper drivers, so it has to resort to using software rendering which can sometimes cause the game to not run or lock up the device.
There are some people working on 3D drivers for the Kaiser, and probably the most well known are the HTCClassAction drivers. There also are some Direct3D only drivers from the Samsung Omnia which are also usable and in my opinion slightly better than the HTCClassAction Drivers in their performance. However, if you don't know if the games you want to play use Direct3D or OpenGL ES, then you should probably choose the HTCClassAction drivers, as they do both. One thing to remember is that both of these drivers are still somewhat new/still in beta and could possibly have some occasional graphic anomalies. And as far as I know, bittermormon was 100% right when he said that symbian games will not run on windows mobile.
FYI: Some of this information I read a while ago, and some of it may have changed or be incorrect altogether. If I have written anything incorrect, please feel free to post the correct information. Hope this has helped,
-Dave
thanks guys i really appreciate your help
Just what do you guys define as 3D games?
I play several games on my TyTN II which are per se, 3D, like Real Football 2009, Warfare Incorporated, Asphalt 4 3D, Doom, Quake, Red Sector, Fast Future Race, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty 2, Darxide EMP, Flux Challenge, Interstellar Flames, Cybersaurus etc etc. These are all 3D games guys and they DO play on our devices!
damn I wonder if I can rip these drivers just out and try then.
That is what sucks about custom ROMs ... most stuff is already fixed in there. Yeah it is not too much work to setup, because so many things are included, BUT you cannot uninstall the stuff if not needed.
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Just what do you guys define as 3D games?
I play several games on my TyTN II which are per se, 3D, like Real Football 2009, Warfare Incorporated, Asphalt 4 3D, Doom, Quake, Red Sector, Fast Future Race, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty 2, Darxide EMP, Flux Challenge, Interstellar Flames, Cybersaurus etc etc. These are all 3D games guys and they DO play on our devices!
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Where can I find these games, especially Darkside EMP and Assassin's Creed?
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Where can I find these games, especially Darkside EMP and Assassin's Creed?
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Just do a Google search. These are all commercial games, so you have to buy them. Not sure if they have free trials.
I'm playing COD2 on my Tilt will Full 3D Hardware acceleration..Look on youtube and theres videos of people playing it..it's a great game on the tilt since theres alot of hardware bottons on the tilt.
I tried Assassins Creed, but it won't run No drivers seem to work.
I plan on buying the X1 when I get my $5500 next week. My most recent phone was the Motorola Rokr E6(Linux Based) and I'm coming from the Motorola Deveploment Community. I've owned a Sony before (W810i) and loved it, so I want to get the X1. I've never used WM before So I hope modding won't be hard to learn. My questions are: Is there Emulaters for the X1 like Nitendo, Super Nitendo, Sega, GBA, N64, and PS1. I had these on my E6 and loved them. Also what about the Doom expansions and Quake expansions as well, I also played these on my E6. Aslo can we overclock the processor and use Swap partions to, Also things I loved about the E6. I looked in the thread for noob questions but 4 pages in it was just people saying how much they don't like noobs posting unneccesary posts and how much they don't like noobs basically so I stopped looking in the thread and decided to post this thread. I aplogize if these questions were posted somewhere else. Thank you for your time and I can't wait to learn WM modding.
All the Emulators are performing like crap (on the MSM720*).
Only (low action) SNES games on Morphgear, like Mario or other lame games (sorry but i hate platforms) where actually able to play on a decent framerate.
Secret of Mana for example was unplayable, unless you like humongous lag. Enabling sound only makes it worse. At the time I actually gave a crap about it, I couldnt stand playing it any longer then 10 minutes, since the qwerty keyboard is not usuable for gaming (in a comfort way, it functions fine in morphgear)
Emulation on WM6.1 is bull****, apart from the PS1 emulator that is, even though the MSM7200 is immensely underpowered for it, seeing that thing on a Snapdragon or OMAP3 chipset (youtube it) is pure awesomeness.
My S.E. M600 did GBA/SEGA Genesis emulation about 4 times as fast, and thats with an 208Mhz ARM9 chip.
Do not buy the X1 if you like playing (console) games.
SomeoneSimple said:
All the Emulators are performing like crap (on the MSM720*).
Only (low action) SNES games on Morphgear, like Mario or other lame games (sorry but i hate platforms) where actually able to play on a decent framerate.
Secret of Mana for example was unplayable, unless you like humongous lag. Enabling sound only makes it worse. At the time I actually gave a crap about it, I couldnt stand playing it any longer then 10 minutes, since the qwerty keyboard is not usuable for gaming (in a comfort way, it functions fine in morphgear)
Emulation on WM6.1 is bull****, apart from the PS1 emulator that is, even though the MSM7200 is immensely underpowered for it, seeing that thing on a Snapdragon or OMAP3 chipset is pure awesomeness.
My S.E. M600 did GBA/SEGA Genesis emulation about 4 times as fast, and thats with an 208Mhz ARM9 chip.
Do not buy the X1 if you like playing (console) games.
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Thanks for the reply, My E6 had a intel PXA270 chipset clocked at 312mhz but with overclocking I could boost it to 528mhz and 620mhz and that vastly improved gaming, Can we do this on the X1?. And what about Doom and Quake.
Welcome to the forums .
1 - Yes. Most will have some lag, but the good thing is there are many to choose from. MorphGear, PicoDrive PocketNES, PocketSNES, etc. The emulator gaming is enjoyable, but will perfect.
You have a choice of hundreds of WinMo games + Java games + PC ports like StarCraft and Diablo, so there are plenty of games.
2 - Yes, you can play them on the X1. Quake is not modified for the WVGA resolution AFAIK, but Quake 3 is playable with a slow framerate. Doom worked only once for me, but I didn't bother to fix it. I just don't find those type of games playable without a mouse...
3 - No overclocking for the X1 so far. There are a couple of programs, but they either do nothing, or start once and then freeze.
Use search, read, learn and feel free to ask questions after that .
@orelsi thanks so much for the info. Sweet we can play Starcraft and Diablo. Dam no overclocking thats a shame. hmm so quake and doom are not made for the 800x400 res, thats okay I bet there is alot of 3d java games for the X1. And yes next time I wll use the search I just really needed to know these answers, and get a chance to talk to some members.
Double post. Mods, please delete it.
I'm glad that I was able to help .
About the games. When I got the X1, I was thinking that I would play games on it all the time. Well... it didn't work out that way lol. Between the browsing, reading rss feeds and books, tweaking options, mp3s, clips, etc. I barely got time for a quick game haha.
All the games are just rusting in the corner.
Nevertheless, when you think how hot StarCraft was back in the day and that now you can carry it in your pocket..... makes you wonder about the future .
Check out this list of games. It can give you a general idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522761
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All the Emulators are performing like crap (on the MSM720*).
Only (low action) SNES games on Morphgear, like Mario or other lame games (sorry but i hate platforms) where actually able to play on a decent framerate.
Secret of Mana for example was unplayable, unless you like humongous lag. Enabling sound only makes it worse. At the time I actually gave a crap about it, I couldnt stand playing it any longer then 10 minutes, since the qwerty keyboard is not usuable for gaming (in a comfort way, it functions fine in morphgear)
Emulation on WM6.1 is bull****, apart from the PS1 emulator that is, even though the MSM7200 is immensely underpowered for it, seeing that thing on a Snapdragon or OMAP3 chipset (youtube it) is pure awesomeness.
My S.E. M600 did GBA/SEGA Genesis emulation about 4 times as fast, and thats with an 208Mhz ARM9 chip.
Do not buy the X1 if you like playing (console) games.
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Have been playing Chrono Trigger on Morphgear for months and no problem for me.
And if you can stand the black bar on the side of the screen, quake not being WVGA shouldn't be a problem.
One last thing, What about Swap Partions for the X1?
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Have been playing Chrono Trigger on Morphgear for months and no problem for me.
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Well, I might've took things out of context, but i was REALLY disappointed in the Emulation capabilities of my X1.
I remember completely finishing multiple action-oriented SEGA Genesis games on my S.E. M600i (208mhz ARM9), Sonic&Knuckles (very fast platform), Streets of Rage (beat em up), Vectorman (action, platform), and some mickeymouse game (action/platform). All of these had perfect stereo sound, and i often had a framerate above realtime.
Then you can understand, that when i got my X1 (totally excited about its WAY FASTER CPU) and booted up similar games, i was extremely confused that i had no sound (without screwing my fps even more), terrible framerate and TBH, awefull controlls. That is the reason, why i think the X1, and all similar, underpowered Windows Mobile devices, is a PITA to play emulated games on.
About the swap. We dont have it (AFAIK), and we'll never need it. My percentage of Ram usage is always under 90%, no matter how many apps i open. Mainly this is because of a (IMO retarded) 16MB/32MB Ram per app limit.