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Need Task Switcher for WM6

Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules

pBar
have you tried the pBar application that is around on the forums? it's freeware and was based on the old wisbar. seems to work well, but i don't think i am using a full wm6...just the beta ish...or wm5 heavily skinned wm6....
do a search and you're bound to find it...

ZaJules said:
Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules
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I'm running a PDAviet WM6, it has this in it's ROM. Tap and hold upper-right corner.

I love it when I can answer my own questions
After searching and using a bunch off apps and not having any luck I just tried Small Menu and It works 100% in WM6.
Meets all my requirements
More news or problems as I find them
Jules

gspocket magic
best app that does all you want

Thanks for the replies.
Vilem. please can you elaborate on that?
I am using Davit ver 3 and have not seen this app.
Sandrobber. Thanks for the file, I have tried the app before but it doesn't match or look good on the stock WM6 start bar. am I missing a setting or something?
So far SmallmenuPlus is the winner for me.
Jules

I have to say, people I know that have been running Crossbow for a few months, have found SmallMenuPlus to be great.
On an unrelated note, I've run SmallMenu pretty much since I got my first WinMob phone, and can highly recommend it. It's not perfect, but it's very useful.
PocketMagic is also a very worth (free) contender.
I don't use Wisbar (resource usage....) so can't comment.
V

Does anyone know a way to exclude some applications (activesync and phone) from smallmenuplus task list?
Killing the phone process during a conversation or closing activesync during a pc sync can be really dangerous/disappointing.

No, I don't think you can, hence my "It's not perfect"
Try writing to the author, he's still active, although the app only seems to get minor updates these days.
V

I've been using Dinar HandySwitcher 2.5 from DinarSoft for a good while now. It has the decided advantage that you can also remove the application from memory, or all applications from memory, right from the main screen. Most times the only way to clear applications is through the start/settings/systems /memory route or a hard power down.
It's not free but it is cheap, easy and effective. Don't know if it runs on W6.

Trying it now.
Works fine in WM6.
Thanks

pocket magic
you can chenge the pictures of the start bar in pocket magis but it takes some enginutity and time. your have to edit the bitmap. Play aroung with it enough and I'm sure you can make it even look loke a vista button
http://homepage3.nifty.com/UK-taniyama/tools/GSPMagicPP.html

@ZaJules,
Which taskswitcher did you settle with in the end for WM6?

Hadn't seen this thread, thanks for bumping it up . So I'm trying SmallMenuPlus and this seems like a really nice (and fast) replacement for Wisbar Lite. The one thing I miss though is there is no soft reset in the menu. I like having that ability to do a soft reset via the menu due to the case I have doesn't have easy access to the reset hole on the side. Anyone know how to add this?
Also, does SmallMenuPlus not close apps when you press the X? Does it just put them in background? Can that be configured?

SKmenu
Skmenu is the one for me. Its not free(for the cascading menu part, which can be deactivated! ), but the taskbar switching works 100% with the demo. I have always used it, its very light, and its accessible 100% of the time= very quick(response speed is the issue i have with the rest of the apps mentioned). Although it doesnt come preconfigured setting it up takes less than a minute, and its easy enough for any level user.
The best solution for me. I also use an Alt-tab application mapped to a hardware button for easy access, like when driving etc...

about taskswicher
sry my poor english
Since 2004 and IPAQ6340 until today wizard/universal/hermes WM6 I have used HaaliTS TaskSwicher-2002.
Lives silently in upper left corner, shows additionally free battery and memory.
Dont needs install, copy exe, make shortcut, all )
Perfect for me and my friends (~25-30 units).
Have tested all here overmentioned progs, but find it best. Small footprint, etc.
regards

And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
BTW: I´m using ilauncher and you can put taskmanager to button. Works perfekt in every WM6

papamopps said:
And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
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Exactly what I needed!

touchflo on TIlt?

I have searched through this forum, some say the AT&T branded Kaiser (Tilt) does have TouchFlo, others say it doesn't. My Tilt definitely DOES NOT have it. Is there anyone out there with an AT&T TILT and does have the touchflo straight out of the box? Is there a way for me to add it since it currently isn't there on mine? Thanks!

stx025 said:
I have searched through this forum, some say the AT&T branded Kaiser (Tilt) does have TouchFlo, others say it doesn't. My Tilt definitely DOES NOT have it. Is there anyone out there with an AT&T TILT and does have the touchflo straight out of the box? Is there a way for me to add it since it currently isn't there on mine? Thanks!
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TouchFlo = Finger Scroll *NOT* the Cube interface.
Start --> Settings --> System --> TouchFlo (to enable and disable sound)
Posted by jomo25:
The way TouchFLO works is this:
- use a finger (not your fingernail) to "drag" the screen up/down (or even left/right if the page is wider than the screen). The page should drag with your finger. It's semi-smooth. Not truly smooth, but smooth enough. When you drag, DON'T lift your finger from the screen till you've got it positioned to your desired spot.
OR
- If you use your finger (not your fingernail) to swipe up or down AND LIFT your finger fromthe screen as you do it, then the screen with scroll by itself to the end in that direction or until you tap the screen again to stop it.
OR
- if you use the stylus or your fingernail, then it will NOT scroll like above. It will then behave like a normal stylus control (highlites and selects instead of scrolling).
So, the screen reads a broad touch (like your finger) differently than a narrow/pinpoint touch (like your nail or stylus).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=238980

Thanks for the additional info. I have seen that post before on this forum though and it is more of an explanation of what touchflo is. I am aware of the difference between the cube touchflo and the finger scroll touchflo. My Tilt has neither. When I go to Start->Settings->System there in nothing in there for touchflo. So my questions still remain, with a slight adjustment...
Is there anyone out there with an AT&T TILT and does have the *finger-scroll* touchflo straight out of the box? Is there a way for me to add it since it currently isn't there on mine? Thanks!

I have no touch-flo icon either in my System folder.
-James

/agree
mine is in the mail and I thought it had the touch flow
I am sure someone will have a fix for it soon enough

I have a Tilt's and so do my two coworkers and they all have touchflo out of the box. Did you soft reset the phone before the customization was completed?

no biggie at all....most will flash to htc rom......and it definately does have the touchflo in the settings...i have a tilt and am using touchflo

The Tilt Does Have Touchflo
The Tilt owners above are correct in that in Start\Settings\System, there is no Touchflo Icon. This however does not mean the device does not have touchflo, because indeed it does. If anyone finds where this icon exists or how we can add a shortcut, please let us all know.
It took a bit of reading for me to understand how to use touchflo and the first post above is a great tutorial.
For me, it took more finger pressure on the screen than I expected to make touchflo work and that may be confusing people as well as the lack of an icon to manage the settings.
To demonstrate to yourself, open an application that is scrollable, like messaging, or IE. Use more pressure than you would expect on the screen and move your finger up, down or sideways in a long flicking motion and you will see touchflo working. Perform the touch again to stop technique or the touch and drag and you will find it works great on the Tilt
Good Luck and enjoy touchflo!

It is supposed to have the "finger scroll TouchFLO" out of the box on the Tilts as MardiG says. if it does not, then your phone's software is not complete. Even if you don't have the "Control Panel" setting, the functioanlity is supposed to be there. I'd get another one if ti doesn't. Or hard reset and let the software customization run again.

thanks for all the posts! very helpful!! i tested and touchflo is definitely not working on mine. i tried the hard reset but that didn't help. i guess i'll have to take this one back to the store and hope they have some left in stock. Thanks again!!

rkorzuch said:
I have a Tilt's and so do my two coworkers and they all have touchflo out of the box. Did you soft reset the phone before the customization was completed?
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my tilt has touchflo - no settings in Settings->System however.
have to modify via registry

Same here ... I have Touchflo but nothing in Settings. The best way to see if you have it is to open Contacts. If you have more than a page or two of Contacts you will be able to tell if your Touchflo is active or not.
Open Contacts and drag you finger from the bottom to the top of the screen ... as if you dragging the bottom toward the top. You should definitely see the scrolling of the Contacts is it's working.

I did a soft-reset during the AT&T customization so that none of the bloatware would be on the Tilt.
TouchFlo is actually working - even though I don't have an icon in the System Settings.
Open up an IE page that would normally need scrolling up/down, and follow the instructions on how to actually use TouchFlo on the first page of this thread - I think it is Post # 2.
I tested mine using the instructions and it works - just have to get used to it (and NO it doesn't work as well as that "other" phone).
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rkorzuch said:
I have a Tilt's and so do my two coworkers and they all have touchflo out of the box. Did you soft reset the phone before the customization was completed?
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I did and it still had touchflo, just no control panel for it. I'm on the HTC rom now and it has the control panel.
jmacdonald801 said:
I have no touch-flo icon either in my System folder.
-James
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But it still has it I'm willing to bet, unless you got some messed up ROM on yours. Try the scrolling in IE and see if it works.

I have used both models and the finger scrolling works on the Tilt. The Kaiser settings have only one checkbox and it is to turn the "clicking" sound on or off. The default is on for the Tilt, and my guess is you will need to tweak the registry to get it turned off.

there's tweak app in the sticky which can set sensitivity of touch flo

TouchFlo not on my Tilt
I just searched my Tilt for TouchFlo files with Total Commander.
No files found.

there are no files but it is there, I did the same thing when I thought mine wasn't working. What I realized is it will not work with Opera mini, I am assuming in won't work in any java app. Goto espn.com in PIE and then try it there, it is a big page so there is plenty to scroll.

No settings area on my Tilt, but TouchFlo works

Ah Ha, ok.... i do have it.... just need to scrool towards the top when i want the list to scroll!!!

Scrolling through programs is slow from start menu, but fast from htc home menu

Today i discovered something weird. Normally i always start the program list from start -> programs. When i scroll through the list it reacts really slow. Today i started the program menu from the HTC Home starter menu. That's the icon right next to the weather icon. When i start the program menu that way scrolling goes really smooth.
Is there someone who can figure this out?

Wow I can confirm that. Really weird.
Always thought that this had to do with the lack of graphic drivers...
***Prays that there's a hidden driver that acts when things are loaded from the Launcher tab***

I also tested and it's true. I think it's a different application, one that caches the icons at start, but still...

Yes! Finaly something positive about TyTN2. Works for me, too. Great find, BenchMarc.
Anyone has got an idea how to map this to Start->Programs ?

Just done it on my (stock rom) Vario 3, that is really wierd, and theres nothing in taks manager to suggest its a different program though?

RavenY2K3 said:
and theres nothing in taks manager to suggest its a different program though?
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It IS a different program.
Try this:
1. Start (HTC) Programs from HTC HomePlugin
2. Start (Windows Mobile) Programs from Start->Programs
3. Now when you minimize (Windows Mobile) Programs by tapping [X] (HTC) Programs will still be underneath it. This wouldn't happen if they were the same application.

The difference I noticed is that one seems to have touchflow on it - the other doesnt.

Bratag said:
The difference I noticed is that one seems to have touchflow on it - the other doesnt.
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I have touchflow with both on my Vario 3.

By the pause that occurs before it launches it appears to be pre-caching the icons. Any way to link directly to this program, so I can map it to a button?
Surur

I found it, htchome launches a different program named folderview.exe.
You can find it in your windows dir.

yeah, it's a different app!
(if you open programs from htc home and you go into the games dir there's an X button to close and not an OK)
anyway, do u guys know why is that touchflo scrolling in the "programs" app is not like in a different app? i mean.. for example in contacts, or messages its smooth and its similar to iphone. but on the programs screen its not that realistic. for me, its scrolling almost 2 times faster than i drag my finger.

is there any way I can change the star menu programs folder to the folderview.exe

Azure465 said:
is there any way I can change the star menu programs folder to the folderview.exe
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It would one of the best thing in Kaiser in my opinion...

Tap and Hold

Perhaps this belongs in the "Unresolved Issues" thread.. I'm unsure.
I'm using a Tilt on the Stock shipped Rom.
When using Touchflo normally - i.e. Sliding my finger finger up or down, the menu pops up as if I had tapped and held the stylus. Very annoying. Does anyone else experience this issue on the Tilt? Also, the stylus operates Touchflo as well.
From what i remember using Touchflo on my wizard, the PPC could distinguish the difference between the Stylus, and my Finger. Why can't the Tilt recognize the difference?
Can a regedit be done to fix this?

None of it can differentiate between stylus & finger. All TFlo looks for is a delay to tell between Tap & Gesture. You may want to adjust your gesture recognition delay or just don't gesture all the way to the top. You don't need to. All you really need to do is transition from area 1 to area 2 within the specified gesture delay period.

Well, the reason i say it could differentiate was because:
Lets assume im browsing a word document, or the PIE: if I slid the stylus up the screen, it would select text, if i slid my finger accross the screen, it would Scroll.
I will alsom note that selcting text is VERY hard. i have to tap the stylus and hold it for a second or so before sliding, otherwise text will not be selected.

acardinale said:
Perhaps this belongs in the "Unresolved Issues" thread.. I'm unsure.
I'm using a Tilt on the Stock shipped Rom.
When using Touchflo normally - i.e. Sliding my finger finger up or down, the menu pops up as if I had tapped and held the stylus. Very annoying. Does anyone else experience this issue on the Tilt? Also, the stylus operates Touchflo as well.
From what i remember using Touchflo on my wizard, the PPC could distinguish the difference between the Stylus, and my Finger. Why can't the Tilt recognize the difference?
Can a regedit be done to fix this?
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Sometimes, mine will do this if I hold to long. Typically, the problem I have with TouchFlo, is that it thinks I want to highlight... everything. So rather than scrolling, it highlights the page. Very annoying. It seems to like scrolling with the stylus more so than using your fingers.

Furthermore, I have just noticed that because the Kaiser fails to recognize the difference between the stylus, and a finger press, the transcriber App will not work.
Can someone attempt to use transcriber on their stock ATT rom to reproduce this problem? -please post your findings.
I specifically remember that the wizard was able to distinguish the stylus from a finger press.
................ Posted via Kaiser ............

Ok, so I have disababled the TFlo scrolller, so I thought, by changing the EnableScroll registry setting to 0. However, the scroll is still working. I have PiePlus 2.2 installed, could that be the problem?

FTouch was the culprit. How do I unisntall FTouch ?

Took the link outta the startup folder, rebooted, and then deleted the folder containing fTouch from the Program Files folder.

I came across this thread because I was having the same problem as the O.P. and was not able to find a solution for it (that is why I am posting in such an old thread so that I can share my experience). I am using Dutty's new Diamond Rom (from June 7th, 2008). Previously I used Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16_27__FIX_ and never had the problem with that ROM...I only started having it after the update.
To fix the problem I used AdvancedConfig (or you can use KaiserTweak) to disable TouchFlo scrolling. After disabling it, do a soft reset. Then install FTouchFlo and FTouchFloConfig. Since doing that navigating in PIE and contacts is as smooth as it was in my previous ROM

Pocket CM and touch issues

OK gents, I've been doing a lot of reading and searching but have not found any resolution for the issues I'm currently expreriencing......
1. Bring up the cube
2. rotate to side with favorite contacts
3. touch the filter button on the bottom (third from left)
4. Pocket CM loads and pulls up all contacts
5. Close Pocket CM
6. Bring up the cube...but it brings up a speed dial, pocket cm screen (?) I think that's what it is....looks similar to the favorites side of the cube
At this point the touch functionality becomes unresponsive and the tilt is somewhat unresponsive, sometimes the top bar does not come back
7. Press end key to close this screen
8. Soft reset required to get back to 100%
My setup...Dutty's 6.1 Rom - Touchflo - PocketCM V.19
Pocket CM has an exclusion in the touchflo-cube setup
Think that about covers it...I really want to be able to use PocketCM so any help would be appreciated.

Heh, just did some searching on google for my problem and got excited when I saw the first search result, then I realized I found my own post!
Anywho, checked the PocketCM forum and there is one user there with the same issue but no one has responded to him as of yet....
oh well, more searching awaits........

Try adding PocketCM to your TouchFlo exceptions.

tis already in the list.
Tried to remove it and then add it back as an exclusion. No dice.
Looks like the PocketCm app starts to hang after I try to close it (after being opened through the cube)

Anybody?
I certainly can just not use that button, but it seems like there's a couple of other issues with pocketcm that i can't put my finger on yet.