Hey all, I realize this is my 1st post, I've been without my PC for quite sometime.
I recently got a Diamond for both myself and wife, we have both flashed to the NEW sprint 2.00 ROM and we're both suffering from this DST bug.
We're both set back to Mountain Time after we start the phone. We've tried to set the correct time zone, then press the update time button and it resets it back to mountain which appears to be default now for some reason. I've installed Advanced Configuration Manager 3.3 and I've set everything back to "Default" restarted, soft reset, removed my battey, banged my against the sharp corner of my desk and nothing.
I did however get a new PRL update to 60651, I dun think that would affect it but who knows? anyone? Please help , for the amount of money we paid the auto time update feature should work.
I'm with Sprint, in Orange Ca.
HTC Diamond with the 'new' leaked Sprint 2.00 ROM
Thanks for this forum, since being a Diamond owner, I've found this forum to be priceless.
VoX
Its not a bug but some features that you activated or is activated by default after your flashing. To resolve your issue, go to phone settings>time zones> and uncheck "Automatic change time zone and clock". This should allow you to save your timezone.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, I've had to do that, Ultimately this isn't something I want to continue doing.
Simply put, This is an expensive phone. Everything should work properly.
I'm trying to edit the registry and make sure all the settings for GMT_OFFSET are correct. Trouble is I have two Diamonds that are incorrect.
What's even more confusing is why in God's green Earth would the phone default to Mountain Time after a sync or a restart?
VoXHTC said:
Ultimately this isn't something I want to continue doing.
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You do this once and it is set, at least mine. This setting is conserved even after sync and restart.
One hypothesis that I have, is that when you set it for automatic time zone retrieval, the phone requests the time zone setting from your operator and if the latter has wrong time zone, your phone just use this information. I think that the time zone error is not with the phone but the operator diffusing wrong information.
This happens to me only when we had the DST change, the phone keeps going to the old time that is 1 hour earlier.
Just try this:
enabled "Automatic change time zone and clock", your time will be wrong as before even if you try to set manually your timezone and clock. Now turn on flight mode to disable your phone function and set manually good timezone and clock. It stay correct and doesn't revert back to the problem you were having. This demonstrates that the "Automatic change time zone and clock" settings is retrieve from your operator and maybe DST has not been taken in consideration by them.
Yes I've tried that. When you say operator do you mean my carrier?
Its Sprint in your case. I think its your carrier though here we call it operator
So it seems that nothing can be done. 400
dollar phone that can't keep time. Thanks for the help anyway guys
I'm seriously the only person to have been affected by this? I've hard reset just now and I'm right back to mountain time zone. I click synchronize time/update and...sigh
Is everyone with a Diamond just ok with leaving the button unchecked? A 50 dollar metropcs phone can keep time correctly, what gives?
I've had my operator take me out of the system , reprovision me, tried all the outdated (not for my OS or version but did it anyway) DST update patches from microsoft.
Could it be the ROM "Leaked Sprint 2.00?"
try installing this cab...its a daylight savings cab issued by Microsoft...it may fix it.
Diamond DST
Hello.
This is my first post here although I've been lurking for quite some time now. So far I've found the forum very helpful. Thanks
Anyway, I've recently emailed HTC support about some problems I've had with my appointments being an hour off after I sync it with my PC. They've emailed me this patch to install on my phone, and so far it's worked swimmingly. I'm sharing it here just in case any of you have been having the same issues as well.
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Help i need it to be GMT -5 Eastern my calendar is not correct! I switched to the 2.3 ROM and this started happening any way to tweak a default so it won't switch??
Allow a fellow newbie who asked the same question to help.
There is a problem, not with the ROM but with towers. GO to settings\Phone and in the Time Zone Tab, deselect auto change. Remember that if you travel you will have to change the clock manually.
Hopefully a fix will come out for this as some point, either from Cingular or one of the great guys here.
Enable Time Zone Tab
And if you don't have the Time Zone tab (it's under settings->phone) you can run this cab from the T-Mobile ROM to enable it. You can also edit the registry, but for those that don't want to play with the registry this is a bit easier.
Hope it helps.
darn... i should have found this!
Thanks to all the feedback, feeling stupid now..
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rwardmi said:
Thanks to all the feedback, feeling stupid now..
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Don't feel stupid. That one caught most of us on this release! Being in South FLA when it switched to Indiana really threw my Calendar coming from my Exchange 2003 into a snit.
My father used to tell me that there were no stupid questions ... unless you kept asking them ...
Steven
chow
Thanks
I have a same problem, everytime I do soft reset, my time changes to GMT -4.caracas :twisted: ...glad I found this post and would like to thanks everyone for solving the problem. 8)
I had this same problem on the AKU2.3 ROM and just switched it off as well. Mine was switching me to Saskatchwan or something like that, and it was an hour off. Anyway, I'm almost certain I had network time updating on with the 2.17 ROM but it always read the correct location. Wonder why the new ROM is dorked up...
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I had this same problem on the AKU2.3 ROM and just switched it off as well. Mine was switching me to Saskatchwan or something like that, and it was an hour off. Anyway, I'm almost certain I had network time updating on with the 2.17 ROM but it always read the correct location. Wonder why the new ROM is dorked up...
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My guess is the registry hack enabled something basic while this newer ROM implemented something more. 2.17 seemed to work just fine. I roamed in good test cases and it worked without a single problem (I'm based in Atlanta but took the phone to Toronto, Seattle, Anchorage, and San Jose while on 2.17). I felt like Johnny Cash last month! http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/ivebeeneverywhere.html
As soon as 2.24 booted, it was screwy and made me wonder if I picked the wrong time zone during set-up.
Maybe the new ROM can't figure out where it is because it's so freakin fast! I'll take the speed over time zone automation any day but it was nice while it lasted.
Yeah i definitely love the speed and will deal with the time zone. But I know in the old 1.08 the time zone setting worked fine, so I am saying that it is the ROM and not the towers and stuff that people are saying. But I absolutely love the new ROM.
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gamescan said:
And if you don't have the Time Zone tab (it's under settings->phone) you can run this cab from the T-Mobile ROM to enable it. You can also edit the registry, but for those that don't want to play with the registry this is a bit easier.
Hope it helps.
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hi this is understandable but my phone changes date to 3 days forward and dont know what is heppening please help
thanx
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong...this is a MINOR annoyance compared to the speed and stability. Definitely worth the trade off. The few times I'll travel, I'll just switch it manually!
still no timezone settings
I have a stock phone... I installed this cab and nothing happened...
I however tried downloading this first from my phone and it was a php file...
same size so i think it was actually the download but named php.. so i changed it and installed it ... nothing new... soft reset... nothing new...
so i just downloaded it from my laptop and installed the cab onto the mda and ran it... nothing new... soft reset... nothing new...
im checking settings / personal / phone
its just not there
upgraded rom and now I have that tab... however...
if my network is picking up a time later than what I have and that is the network time then what time do my nights and weekends free night time minutes start then ?
just a thought?
is it my time or the time the time it thinks it is in Indiana?
Hi,
Recently I have contacted i-mate, (it took me countless days just to explain simple thing about DST 2007). Finally they got back to me with cab files for the DST change on KJAM.
For more info on DST Change 2007 please see this:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_overview
For info on WM:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923953
Enclosed is the CAB file, just copy into your device and execute from there.
Please note that it is recommended that your administrator also make changes on the Exchange server end before you implement this in your device.
Regards,
Does this require a change to a different time zone and then back? I saw a similar CAB file from another site that would work if you changed time zones after installing. However, without changing the time zone it didn't read the new settings properly and wouldn't change come the new DST dates.
-Pete
Good point. I would suggest to make time zone change, reset the device and change back the time zone and reset again. To confirm if it is working, schedule meeting during that DST period.
DST = "Daylight Saving Time"?
Yes. Daylight Saving Time. It will affect customers worldwide who schedule meetings with anyone living in North America.
Not only that, the server systems on the back end supporting business, applications also need to be address. So the impact is quite huge.
Imagine supposedly a financial report as of 12 AM but it reported 1 hour less of trading amount because of the time shift. You could lose $$$... a lot
lamlamz said:
Yes. Daylight Saving Time. It will affect customers worldwide who schedule meetings with anyone living in North America.
Not only that, the server systems on the back end supporting business, applications also need to be address. So the impact is quite huge.
Imagine supposedly a financial report as of 12 AM but it reported 1 hour less of trading amount because of the time shift. You could lose $$$... a lot
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If you have appointments already scheduled for the last 3 weeks of March you will need to go back in and make sure that the they have the proper time listed. The programs don't know to change the time of appointments that are already scheduled. A real pain in the ass for my sales division.
Kirby
rkwhyte2 said:
If you have appointments already scheduled for the last 3 weeks of March you will need to go back in and make sure that the they have the proper time listed. The programs don't know to change the time of appointments that are already scheduled. A real pain in the ass for my sales division.
Kirby
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Wouldn't the time for the appointments still be the same? Notifications are only dependent on the system clock...
Anyways, back to my original problem... I have the DST cab installed yet I still had to manually change the time. I'm sure I waited several minutes before softresetting and I also tried softresetting on sunday to trigger the time change but it didn't. I have verified that the binary values match the new corrected values. Is there a setting that I need to check in order for the phone to do it automatically or is there just something wrong? See sig for phone settings.
rkwhyte2 said:
If you have appointments already scheduled for the last 3 weeks of March you will need to go back in and make sure that the they have the proper time listed. The programs don't know to change the time of appointments that are already scheduled. A real pain in the ass for my sales division.
Kirby
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Yeah, this was a real PIA! Servers and workstations required the OS update, Exchange 2003 required another update, and then the workstation's Outlook required the TZMove for Outlook http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931667, which worked on 98% of my clients...
M$ did supply a TZMove for Exchange which, for some reason, wouldn't work for my SBS clients....
I didn't have an issue myself on my PDA Sunday... due directly to me flashing my device 3 times testing a new ROM... But I had to have my clients manually change their time on their devices as it didn't change. Probably due to me not using Network Time (changes us from Eastern to Indiana...)
Thank God it's done....................
Dr Puttingham said:
Thank God it's done....................
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Until end of October when things don't change back to Standard Time until November 11th...
Yeah this was a royal pain.
Pls help
My T-Mo MDA jumped forward OK but SPB time still one hour behind.
Any way to fix this?
Thanks in advance
Has anyone both installed the patch that modifies the daylight savings time setting on their device AND verified that appointment during affected times (this week) have been corrected?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx
I do sync with Outlook and have tried the PC centric Outlook method as well as the PPC centric method. Both have failed. The software installs on the PC side but never gets to the point of identifying calendar items that need updated. On the PPC it installs fine but appointments are still 1 hour off this week.
Getting really frustrated with this.
What do you mean "appointments are still 1 hour off this week?"
The DST update shouldn't make any changes to appointment times, just adjust when the DST change takes place so that it "hits" on the right day. An appointment that shows up at 8:00AM every tuesday should show that time both before and after applying the update.
Here goes the CAB
Ron
i thought WM6 already fixed the DST issue...i haven't had to change anything...my time is still correct...we'll see what happens this coming weekend...
I read on Microsoft's site that WM6 had updated this, but this past weekend my clock went back an hour. I had to manually move it up an hour. This weekend I guess I'll have to move it back.
Or move to Hawaii or Arizona where we don't have to deal with such tomfoolery.
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Here goes the CAB
Ron
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Thanks for the patch, I have been bothering by this time issue for the past two days.
Various
@PerfAlbion: Any change to the time zone which is effectively what the DST change does will affect appointment times. See milesahead's post as well.
So those of you who installed the patch. What was the exact effect on the clock time and appoinment times. Heck maybe it is working correctly for me and I just have to manually modify times. As I understand all of the MS documentation if you take the PC/Outlook centric approach Outlook will walk you through some dialogs that identify each affected appointment and ask you what to do with it. No mention of such a wizard type corrrection using the cab file and the PPC centric correction approach. Thanks!
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@PerfAlbion: Any change to the time zone which is effectively what the DST change does will affect appointment times. See milesahead's post as well.
So those of you who installed the patch. What was the exact effect on the clock time and appoinment times. Heck maybe it is working correctly for me and I just have to manually modify times. As I understand all of the MS documentation if you take the PC/Outlook centric approach Outlook will walk you through some dialogs that identify each affected appointment and ask you what to do with it. No mention of such a wizard type corrrection using the cab file and the PPC centric correction approach. Thanks!
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hey, i have the same problem... but my wm6 is actually from ROM cooked in this forum....
anyway, i have installed the patch... didnt work for me... whenever i connects my ppc to pc... activesync change my ppc clock back one hour... i am in PST timezone... anyone has solution??
I don't know why it's only hit me today, but it really screwed my entire day up with such a mixed up schedule. I'm showing up were I'm not supposed to be an hour early and missing where I'm supposed to be at then. My time is also off (faster) by an hour, which messed things up even more.
I've applied the patch from MS, but it does not do anything. It doesn't change my calendar back, nor does it change my time back an hour. I force update the time and it's correct, but after a reset, the time goes back to an hour faster. is there no solution to this simple problem??
I did not install this patch. I hoped WM6 would have actually fixed this problem...however it's Sunday morning and my phone did not fall back an hour. My computer (and my old PPC 6700 with the patch) both say 10:25am but my Tilt says 11:25am.
Should I adjust the time manually or install the patch earlier in this thread? Thanks.
My Tilt with ATT Stock ROM changed the time back one hour without the need for the patch. Does the HTC ROM has the same fix?
species8472_rules said:
My Tilt with ATT Stock ROM changed the time back one hour without the need for the patch. Does the HTC ROM has the same fix?
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You still need to run the patch to fix appointment (well, if you have any).
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You still need to run the patch to fix appointment (well, if you have any).
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I didn't .. My time automatically adjusted back an hour today and all my appointments are still at their correct time.
I have a Tilt with the stock Rom as well and my phone worked as it should. Went back an hour and kept all appointments and tasks at the correct times.
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Does the HTC ROM has the same fix?
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The Shipping HTC ROM on my TyTn II works as expected. The time rolled back and kept appointments.
my stock rom at&t tilt rolled back with no issues. Man, we were just talking about daylight savings programming issues at my local php meetup, I feel bad for y'all experiencing problems.
(sent from my well-adjusted tilt)
Charles
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You still need to run the patch to fix appointment (well, if you have any).
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Have tons of appointments and they are all correct too (just checked)..
I have a Kaiser with "auto time set" disabled due to the bug that has activesync launching all the time. Mine did not roll back the clock this morning. I reset the time manually, appointments still look OK. I just applied the patch and maybe I'll set the clock/date back and test it when I get a chance.
A new DST patch is available
A new DST patch is available...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...92-3142-4473-b435-b514e4b360a5&DisplayLang=en
WMDST2008-1.CAB
Supported Operating Systems: Windows Mobile 5.0; Windows Mobile 6
Windows Mobile 5.0 for Pocket PC.
Windows Mobile 5.0 for Smartphone.
Windows Mobile 6 Professional.
Windows Mobile 6 Standard.
Windows Mobile 6 Classic.
Zyir
Hey guys,
For some reason (I'm assuming it has something to do with the recent day light savings time change), whenever I sync my phone to my computer, it bumps the phone time up an hour. The computer time is correct, but the phone is changed. I change it back on the phone, and it's fine until I sync again. Does anyone know what I can do to prevent this from happening?
You have to change the time zone on your phone to here you are, i had the same problem.
met3ora said:
Hey guys,
For some reason (I'm assuming it has something to do with the recent day light savings time change), whenever I sync my phone to my computer, it bumps the phone time up an hour. The computer time is correct, but the phone is changed. I change it back on the phone, and it's fine until I sync again. Does anyone know what I can do to prevent this from happening?
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OR... once your phone is connected, click tools, options, then settings when Windows PC is highlightes, then make sure "Synchronize Pocket PC......" is NOT checked.
You can also apply this patch and see if it helps....
I think the CAB worked. Thanks a lot!
met3ora said:
I think the CAB worked. Thanks a lot!
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hey no prob, glad I could help out
I have a similar issue, only it just started happening after upgrading to Vista and using Mobile Device Center instead of activesync, however my phone time gets bumped up 3 hours. Both my computer and phone are set to the correct time zone. I live in the US Eastern Time Zone (GMT -5), but my phone uses a GMT-8 (US West Coast) phone number which is 3 hours behind where I am now. Not sure if that is part of the issue? Any ideas?
Check the QuickGPS is working OK, if it is not able to do the update it causes the time zone changes. Change to QUICKGPS Service to Manual mode, then the issue may not arises. I had this issue and now OK For me.
jjspierx said:
I have a similar issue, only it just started happening after upgrading to Vista and using Mobile Device Center instead of activesync, however my phone time gets bumped up 3 hours. Both my computer and phone are set to the correct time zone. I live in the US Eastern Time Zone (GMT -5), but my phone uses a GMT-8 (US West Coast) phone number which is 3 hours behind where I am now. Not sure if that is part of the issue? Any ideas?
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There is a "Time Zones" tab under Phone you can try unchecking the box on there.
Ta
Dave
the cab didn't work for me =( However, I've managed to solve this problem. The workaround is open MS ActivSync, then click Tools->Options->Settings-> uncheck the "Synchronize Pocket PC date and time upon connecting" That should solve the problem.
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the cab didn't work for me =( However, I've managed to solve this problem. The workaround is open MS ActivSync, then click Tools->Options->Settings-> uncheck the "Synchronize Pocket PC date and time upon connecting" That should solve the problem.
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Hi guys,
thanks a lot. This did work for me.
Since DST has started in Australia my O2 xda IIi runs 1 hour behind my PC. Every time I sync, the time changes. I've turned off the time sync in Activesync but now my appointments are out by 1 hour between my PC and xda. This happened earlier this year (end of DST) but it was only for 1 week so I put up with it.
Now the changes are 3 weeks at start of DST and 2 weeks at end of DST. These are also permenant, so each year I'll have this problem.
Does anyone know how to change the DST start and end dates in Windows Mobile 2003. Microsoft have updates for Mobile 5 & 6, but not 2003.
Microsoft support had me download TZEdit, which can change timezone settings but only on the PC and not on my xda.
If I can't get an update or editor, I'm willing to do a registry hack. I have a registry editor for 2003 but don't know what to change.
I would appreciate any help, thanks.
Having same problem here. Time keeps stuffing up and my alarm doesn't ring in the morning!
Foudn this
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949168
Haven't tried yet I dun hav cable here at work.
XDA Daylight Savings Workaround
I have the same problem with my XDA Mini and what I did to fix it was turn off the auto-sync time option in ActiveSync and then on my handheld I changed my timezone to one hour ahead - GMT+11 (Magadan). Once this was done I reset my time to the correct time.
The time was correct and all my appointments in my handheld jumped back to the correct times. I tested appointment setup both ways and they sync'd OK.
Hope this helps. Cheers.
I Have an Unlocked HTC Touch Cruise (polaris).
I am in Argentina and the same thing with the DST happend here. The problem for me is not the Time Zone, the problem is that the GPS uses the time to function properly, so first it delays about 30 - 40 minutes to find out the "correct" time from the satellites, and after that, it automatically adjust my time, so i have it wrong again....
Is there any way to change the registry to tell the system that i am in Daylight Saving Time?
Thank you all...