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Daylight savings time patch

Has anyone both installed the patch that modifies the daylight savings time setting on their device AND verified that appointment during affected times (this week) have been corrected?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/daylightsaving/default.mspx
I do sync with Outlook and have tried the PC centric Outlook method as well as the PPC centric method. Both have failed. The software installs on the PC side but never gets to the point of identifying calendar items that need updated. On the PPC it installs fine but appointments are still 1 hour off this week.
Getting really frustrated with this.

What do you mean "appointments are still 1 hour off this week?"
The DST update shouldn't make any changes to appointment times, just adjust when the DST change takes place so that it "hits" on the right day. An appointment that shows up at 8:00AM every tuesday should show that time both before and after applying the update.

Here goes the CAB
Ron

i thought WM6 already fixed the DST issue...i haven't had to change anything...my time is still correct...we'll see what happens this coming weekend...

I read on Microsoft's site that WM6 had updated this, but this past weekend my clock went back an hour. I had to manually move it up an hour. This weekend I guess I'll have to move it back.

Or move to Hawaii or Arizona where we don't have to deal with such tomfoolery.

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Here goes the CAB
Ron
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Thanks for the patch, I have been bothering by this time issue for the past two days.

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@PerfAlbion: Any change to the time zone which is effectively what the DST change does will affect appointment times. See milesahead's post as well.
So those of you who installed the patch. What was the exact effect on the clock time and appoinment times. Heck maybe it is working correctly for me and I just have to manually modify times. As I understand all of the MS documentation if you take the PC/Outlook centric approach Outlook will walk you through some dialogs that identify each affected appointment and ask you what to do with it. No mention of such a wizard type corrrection using the cab file and the PPC centric correction approach. Thanks!

swamp2 said:
@PerfAlbion: Any change to the time zone which is effectively what the DST change does will affect appointment times. See milesahead's post as well.
So those of you who installed the patch. What was the exact effect on the clock time and appoinment times. Heck maybe it is working correctly for me and I just have to manually modify times. As I understand all of the MS documentation if you take the PC/Outlook centric approach Outlook will walk you through some dialogs that identify each affected appointment and ask you what to do with it. No mention of such a wizard type corrrection using the cab file and the PPC centric correction approach. Thanks!
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hey, i have the same problem... but my wm6 is actually from ROM cooked in this forum....
anyway, i have installed the patch... didnt work for me... whenever i connects my ppc to pc... activesync change my ppc clock back one hour... i am in PST timezone... anyone has solution??

I don't know why it's only hit me today, but it really screwed my entire day up with such a mixed up schedule. I'm showing up were I'm not supposed to be an hour early and missing where I'm supposed to be at then. My time is also off (faster) by an hour, which messed things up even more.
I've applied the patch from MS, but it does not do anything. It doesn't change my calendar back, nor does it change my time back an hour. I force update the time and it's correct, but after a reset, the time goes back to an hour faster. is there no solution to this simple problem??

I did not install this patch. I hoped WM6 would have actually fixed this problem...however it's Sunday morning and my phone did not fall back an hour. My computer (and my old PPC 6700 with the patch) both say 10:25am but my Tilt says 11:25am.
Should I adjust the time manually or install the patch earlier in this thread? Thanks.

My Tilt with ATT Stock ROM changed the time back one hour without the need for the patch. Does the HTC ROM has the same fix?

species8472_rules said:
My Tilt with ATT Stock ROM changed the time back one hour without the need for the patch. Does the HTC ROM has the same fix?
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You still need to run the patch to fix appointment (well, if you have any).

joedoe said:
You still need to run the patch to fix appointment (well, if you have any).
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I didn't .. My time automatically adjusted back an hour today and all my appointments are still at their correct time.

I have a Tilt with the stock Rom as well and my phone worked as it should. Went back an hour and kept all appointments and tasks at the correct times.

species8472_rules said:
Does the HTC ROM has the same fix?
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The Shipping HTC ROM on my TyTn II works as expected. The time rolled back and kept appointments.

my stock rom at&t tilt rolled back with no issues. Man, we were just talking about daylight savings programming issues at my local php meetup, I feel bad for y'all experiencing problems.
(sent from my well-adjusted tilt)
Charles

joedoe said:
You still need to run the patch to fix appointment (well, if you have any).
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Have tons of appointments and they are all correct too (just checked)..

I have a Kaiser with "auto time set" disabled due to the bug that has activesync launching all the time. Mine did not roll back the clock this morning. I reset the time manually, appointments still look OK. I just applied the patch and maybe I'll set the clock/date back and test it when I get a chance.

A new DST patch is available
A new DST patch is available...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...92-3142-4473-b435-b514e4b360a5&DisplayLang=en
WMDST2008-1.CAB
Supported Operating Systems: Windows Mobile 5.0; Windows Mobile 6
Windows Mobile 5.0 for Pocket PC.
Windows Mobile 5.0 for Smartphone.
Windows Mobile 6 Professional.
Windows Mobile 6 Standard.
Windows Mobile 6 Classic.
Zyir

Outlook synchronization on Vista

Guys:
a) Is there any tweak for speeding up Outlook synchronization on Vista? It takes over 2 hours over a USB cable!
b) Also, the Windows Mobile Device Center constantly synchronizes without user activation. The moment my Kaiser is connected to the PC via the USB cable, the synchronization starts. After taking 2 hours, it restarts in a few minutes and takes another 2 hours, even though there is nothing to sync at that point! The Start Sync icon is ignored, and synchronization starts automatically every time. The Stop Sync icon sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
Any idea what could be wrong? Any registry tweaks for this beast?
Sorry if this problem/issue has been posted earlier, I searched the forums and could not find anything.

Wow, something doesn't sound right there. These days for me the initial sync took about 10 minutes then each sync takes a few seconds. My phone is in the cradle all day so it syncing all the time. It is usual to see some slow down on the device when it is syncing though.
Are you running mobile device centre 6.1?
Are you syncing media at the same time?
Perhaps try turning all of the sync items off except one and then try. One by one try turning them on and see if you can work out where the problem is. Could be an entry or email that is causing a problem.
I notice there is a SP1 for office today.. might have something in there?
I have heard of people having to delete the sync relationships and start again too. It's quick enough and shouldn't cause you to loose any data unless you have changes settings from the defaults. I would certainly start by doing this. Delete the relationship on both devices and start again.
Mine used to be really problematic and I tried so many things to fix it, in the end I just reinstalled vista from scratch. It's been fine ever since.

Trying your suggestions
Thanks, @ladytoast. Is there anyway to turn off the automatic resynching every 5 minutes?
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Are you running mobile device centre 6.1?
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- Yes
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Are you syncing media at the same time?
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-No
ladytoast said:
Perhaps try turning all of the sync items off except one and then try. One by one try turning them on and see if you can work out where the problem is.
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-Yes, I'm doing that now, thanks for the suggestion
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Could be an entry or email that is causing a problem.
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- I don't sync email, since I don't use Outlook for email. Though I;ll have to start looking at email syncs soon too...
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I have heard of people having to delete the sync relationships and start again too. It's quick enough and shouldn't cause you to loose any data unless you have changes settings from the defaults. I would certainly start by doing this. Delete the relationship on both devices and start again.
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- Deleting the sync relationship helped me earlier to solve the failure to connect problem I had earlier. But the chances of loss of data are very high, since the Mobile Device Center deletes data from the device if you uncheck a sync type. For example, you've already synchronized Calendar. Now you want to synchronize Contacts. Guess what? Since you uncheck Calendar, it deletes all calendar entries from the phone and synchronizes the Contacts. Dangerous, if you ask me. Any way to change this behavior?
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Mine used to be really problematic and I tried so many things to fix it, in the end I just reinstalled vista from scratch. It's been fine ever since.
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- Afraid re-installation is not possible for me, though I'd like to uninstall and re-install Windows Mobile Device Center.

Summer Time Calendar Problem

Can someone please help!!!
Since we started summer time here in Oz my diamond is showing the correct summer time but now all of my appointments are 1 hour earlier as if on old time.
The PC I sync with is showing correct time for PC and Outlook but the Diamond Calendar remains 1 hour earlier for everything.
Whats happened? and whats the best way to fix please.
My diamond is my lifeblood so any help would be much appreciated.
Please....anyone

I have a similar problem in Oz, but my diamond is now one hour off the correct time whenever I sync it with the PC.
Google "windows mobile daylight saving time" brings you to some microsoft fixes which may sort things out. I haven't tried it yet. Keep us posted with any solution!

Mine is the same.....as soon as I connect it via activesync my phone changes back an hour.
Once I unplug it...it goes back to the correct time.
Pain in da A$$

Daylight Saving Time
This is the Microsoft Windows Mobile (Desktop Tool) update to address DST related issues in 2008 due to revised Daylight Saving Time laws in many countries.

You may need to update your Outlook version as well.
Windows Mobile Daylight Savings page:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/microsoft/daylight-savings-update.mspx

Change Time Zone
If you change your time zone to Magadan (GST +11) your calendar entries will be OK.

Thanks for your assistance Nighthawk but I have already tried both of those.
I have addressed the issue with HTC Support and their phones are running hot over this.
It is a Windows Mobile issue and not a HTC one so it needs to be addressed my Microstuffit....However HTC are working with them to get the problem fixed A.S.A.P....they are well and truly aware by the sheer volume of calls they are getting..even after the supposed "patches" to fix it.
The problem has been created by daylight saving commencing 3 weeks earlier than normal.
Expect a post in the HTC members club site soon re the fix for it.
Cheers

cr1960 said:
If you change your time zone to Magadan (GST +11) your calendar entries will be OK.
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I figured out this workaround.. but the word workaround doesn't go down very well. It's a premium phone with premium price.. HTC and MS need to get their act together

JT_Dodger said:
Thanks for your assistance Nighthawk but I have already tried both of those.
I have addressed the issue with HTC Support and their phones are running hot over this.
It is a Windows Mobile issue and not a HTC one so it needs to be addressed my Microstuffit....However HTC are working with them to get the problem fixed A.S.A.P....they are well and truly aware by the sheer volume of calls they are getting..even after the supposed "patches" to fix it.
The problem has been created by daylight saving commencing 3 weeks earlier than normal.
Expect a post in the HTC members club site soon re the fix for it.
Cheers
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See the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2734154&postcount=14
I installed this .cab and changed back the timezone to GMT+ 10 sydney.. and it's correctly calculating the time. Sync with outlook is also working fine.

just updated 2 x Diamond's with this cab and it worked! For some reason, the cab i downloaded yesterday didn't fix the outlook issue. this one did.
didn't have an issue with my Kaiser though.. weird.
Many Thanks.

Installed that *.cab file.
Outlook calendar shows correctly
Diamond is an hour earlier on all appointments.
Have reset...still the same.
*shrugs*

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...5C-8AC1-4821-81FE-3F4ADA831FE0&displaylang=en
Worked for me. My calendar events were all one hour back, this fixed them all.

ninthsense said:
See the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2734154&postcount=14
I installed this .cab and changed back the timezone to GMT+ 10 sydney.. and it's correctly calculating the time. Sync with outlook is also working fine.
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thanks, this seems to have worked for me too.

Its fixed...thanks.
I had to install the cab file while connected to the PC.
Its all good now.
Thanks for the input everyone.

It was working fine for 24 hours.....connected it to the PC to resync today and back an hour all my apopointments went...and the clock.
Fixed the clock by reinstalling the cab file...but the appointments remain 1 hour behind.
I cant wait for the 26th October.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!

Diamond self-syncing time to internet/carrier ?

Have a problem with my Diamond, its set to 15mins faster than real time (habit of mine) and only occasionally when it syncs with my Vista64 PC the time reverts to "real time".
I'm not sure if its syncing the time to the internet or via my phone carrier, tried to fix this under phone options on the diamond and activesync options to no avail.
This is driving me nuts as I'm using the phone as an alarm clock and it won't be pretty if I wake 15mins late for work...

Errrmmm...
I'm not sure what 'problem' you're stating here? If you're complaining that your PC corrects the time on your device when you sync, then you don't have a 'problem' with your device - that's what syncing does (amongst other things)!
.. or are you saying that you want it to correct the time, and it isn't?

Well to clarify :
PC clock and phone clock is 15mins faster
OCCASIONALLY (its done this in about 1 per 4-5 syncs) the phone reverts back to "normal" time (i.e. goes back 15mins). The PC clock is still 15mins faster.
This leads me to believe that the phone is updating the time either from the carrier or the internet (its set to use the PC's internet connection when synced)

Pesty_74 said:
Have a problem with my Diamond, its set to 15mins faster than real time (habit of mine) and only occasionally when it syncs with my Vista64 PC the time reverts to "real time".
I'm not sure if its syncing the time to the internet or via my phone carrier, tried to fix this under phone options on the diamond and activesync options to no avail.
This is driving me nuts as I'm using the phone as an alarm clock and it won't be pretty if I wake 15mins late for work...
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To keep phone from syncing with PC time:
In ActiveSync on PC, right click on "Windows PC", click the "Settings" button. Uncheck "Synchronize Pocket PC date and time when connecting."

Thanks for the quick reply.
Unfortunately I'm running Vista64 and Windows Mobile center doesn't have that function, I've tried all the options looking for something similar for the past 2 days....

Thats odd - I always thought it synced with the PC's time.

Yeah I know, I've checked that extensively, its 15mins slower than my PC time.
I'll try and see if turning off auto-adjust for timezone/daylight savings helps

Diamond DST Broken - So Cal

Hey all, I realize this is my 1st post, I've been without my PC for quite sometime.
I recently got a Diamond for both myself and wife, we have both flashed to the NEW sprint 2.00 ROM and we're both suffering from this DST bug.
We're both set back to Mountain Time after we start the phone. We've tried to set the correct time zone, then press the update time button and it resets it back to mountain which appears to be default now for some reason. I've installed Advanced Configuration Manager 3.3 and I've set everything back to "Default" restarted, soft reset, removed my battey, banged my against the sharp corner of my desk and nothing.
I did however get a new PRL update to 60651, I dun think that would affect it but who knows? anyone? Please help , for the amount of money we paid the auto time update feature should work.
I'm with Sprint, in Orange Ca.
HTC Diamond with the 'new' leaked Sprint 2.00 ROM
Thanks for this forum, since being a Diamond owner, I've found this forum to be priceless.
VoX

Its not a bug but some features that you activated or is activated by default after your flashing. To resolve your issue, go to phone settings>time zones> and uncheck "Automatic change time zone and clock". This should allow you to save your timezone.
Hope this helps.

Yeah, I've had to do that, Ultimately this isn't something I want to continue doing.
Simply put, This is an expensive phone. Everything should work properly.
I'm trying to edit the registry and make sure all the settings for GMT_OFFSET are correct. Trouble is I have two Diamonds that are incorrect.
What's even more confusing is why in God's green Earth would the phone default to Mountain Time after a sync or a restart?

VoXHTC said:
Ultimately this isn't something I want to continue doing.
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You do this once and it is set, at least mine. This setting is conserved even after sync and restart.
One hypothesis that I have, is that when you set it for automatic time zone retrieval, the phone requests the time zone setting from your operator and if the latter has wrong time zone, your phone just use this information. I think that the time zone error is not with the phone but the operator diffusing wrong information.
This happens to me only when we had the DST change, the phone keeps going to the old time that is 1 hour earlier.
Just try this:
enabled "Automatic change time zone and clock", your time will be wrong as before even if you try to set manually your timezone and clock. Now turn on flight mode to disable your phone function and set manually good timezone and clock. It stay correct and doesn't revert back to the problem you were having. This demonstrates that the "Automatic change time zone and clock" settings is retrieve from your operator and maybe DST has not been taken in consideration by them.

Yes I've tried that. When you say operator do you mean my carrier?

Its Sprint in your case. I think its your carrier though here we call it operator

So it seems that nothing can be done. 400
dollar phone that can't keep time. Thanks for the help anyway guys

I'm seriously the only person to have been affected by this? I've hard reset just now and I'm right back to mountain time zone. I click synchronize time/update and...sigh
Is everyone with a Diamond just ok with leaving the button unchecked? A 50 dollar metropcs phone can keep time correctly, what gives?
I've had my operator take me out of the system , reprovision me, tried all the outdated (not for my OS or version but did it anyway) DST update patches from microsoft.
Could it be the ROM "Leaked Sprint 2.00?"

try installing this cab...its a daylight savings cab issued by Microsoft...it may fix it.

Diamond DST
Hello.
This is my first post here although I've been lurking for quite some time now. So far I've found the forum very helpful. Thanks
Anyway, I've recently emailed HTC support about some problems I've had with my appointments being an hour off after I sync it with my PC. They've emailed me this patch to install on my phone, and so far it's worked swimmingly. I'm sharing it here just in case any of you have been having the same issues as well.