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To the ones that tried both OS would you recommend switching from 6.1 to 6.5?
I know 6.5 have a nicer graphic and it is a bit more touch friendly etc. but some chefs said it will never really run as fast as 6.1 on our diamond due probably to the limited amount of memory.
What do you guys think?
Is it better to stick to 6.1 and install finger friendly programs or any other suggestions?
In my personal experience I find 6.1 to be clunky.
I would upgrade to 6.5 if I were you using BSB's rom.
I prefer the slightly more finger friendly feel to WM6.5
also the better more fluid Kinetic scrolling on WM6.5
the whole ram on some roms for WM6.5 is much more stable than WM6.1
and if cooked correctly WM6.1 can be just as fast and ram friendly as WM6.1.
I would say try it, if you don't like it go back to WM6.1, that's the beauty of such a flexible device as windows mobile
i am currently running on 6.1 1.93 official rom.. find it good enough.. very finger friendly to me already since i have not taken out my stylus to use other than occasional hangs and i need to soft reset..
My vote also goes for 6.5
For it is more finger friendly, and for scroll kinetic!
The experience depends on the build version and on the chief that cooked it.
I tried a few and found the best for now is BsB's 6.5Q version witch is 23017 build. Here is a link if you like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506533
I tried never builds like 23025, but is very buggy.
BsB's 6.5Q runs smoothly, gives a ~100mb free space and ~50mb free ram!
I'm using Titanium tho not a TF3D!
6.1 makes my PDA look like a pc whie 6.5 makes it look like a phone.
Personally i'd have to go for BSB's 6.5 Titanium. I've gotten bored of TF3D/TF3D2 now and wanted something new to show off about.
Just to snaz it up a bit more i'd recommend using JML Today plugin found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540413
Also, JML Today skins are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540116
Hi, I am also looking at 6.5, but was wondering, which rom is the fastest and most stable in your opinion, is it BSB's latest one?
Thanks
I like 6.1os more. because I am adjusted to it and thinki it is much better for me to use . you know that the habit is so important . I have tried some times to fit for the6.5os but i find it is complicated though the interface is better.
Thanks for your feedback all, I have installed the latest BsB and it works quite well so far.
I still have to get used to the new menus and such.
I do miss the manila audio player, is there anything out there as good as that one? WMP sucks big time and it is not finger friendly.
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Thanks for your feedback all, I have installed the latest BsB and it works quite well so far.
I still have to get used to the new menus and such.
I do miss the manila audio player, is there anything out there as good as that one? WMP sucks big time and it is not finger friendly.
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I have done the same, BsB's is good!
I would also like to change WMP, any1 have some ideas?
Why dont you try s2p (slide to play) or CorePlayer...?
Nitrogen is a lot better than those two (imho) but I just decided to go back to 6.1
Maybe when Android is fully ported I'll consider changing OS again.
Agreed
peron said:
Nitrogen is a lot better than those two (imho) but I just decided to go back to 6.1
Maybe when Android is fully ported I'll consider changing OS again.
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Oh... yes. I forgotten that. But I personaly prefer CorePlayer, Which plays almost any media format on earth and supports skining too...
Hi ppl,
I am looking to move from a 6.1 to 6.5 rom.
In your opinions, which is the fastest and most stable 6.5 rom?
Thank you all in advance!!
No much to split them!
I've tried all the 6.5 and 6.1 ROM's in this forum... and I mean ALL! Every time I've tried a 6.5 though, I've reverted back to a 6.1 again after a couple of days. They're just a bit buggy for me at the moment. There are some nice new features in 6.5 (and, it seems a lot more on the way), but I haven't found one that is bug free.
It depends on whether you can live with a few glitches or not. I can't... you may not mind. However, if you want to try one, this one seems pretty stable.
Personally, I'm going to wait for an official release to be ported, with all the features I've been seeing popping up on the net
i have tried wm 6.5 about 2 months ago...i will never go back to 6.1
i agree ive tried 6.5 from vavious chefs and out of all off them my favourite is
Gen.Y TouchFlo3Dv2.1 VGA whick is 6.1, i just dont like the titanium interface much prefere tf3d v2 which Gen.Y TouchFlo3Dv2.1 VGA gives me
ps imo
Ive decided to go with BsB 6.5Q rom, and it's pretty good so far.. wait and see how it holds up
I had the same question and was tempted into trying WM6.5
I installed the BsB rom and while it seems to be bug free (you must use mtty before flashing) I was a bit disappointed by the user interface of Wm6.5
I believe that TF3D is unbeaten for user friendliness and and eventually I'll switch back to 6.1 because 6.5 with TF3d uses up too much memory for the diamond.
One thing I do like about 6.5 is the smooth scrolling
wm.6.5 more friendly but eats a lot of ram
I just wish to have a 3G dialer in wm6.5 with no issue then I'll never back to 6.1
I have been using BSB latest rom, but found it not very fast. What other 6.5 roms are around which people have found to be fast, stable and keep ram usage down. I am happy with lite roms..
Looking forward to reading your opinions!!
Hi,
I read some links I could find in google ("windows mobile 6.1 vs. 6.5") and...
What are really usable improvements of 6.5 over 6.1 that makes life easier? If I use Manila most of the time - no difference what OS runs behind it. My email client (I guess email client in 6.1 is made by Microsoft) is also good enough.
I don't think that 6.5 runs a bit faster. Same OS with just a different GUI.
So way to wait for 6.5?
Any updates when it will be officially released? October?
I read somewhere that HTC won't release 6.5 for old devices (like Touch HD). No changes here? Still same position at HTC?
Hi.... I had the same question and tried out WM6.5 for about a month. I did not see any tangible improvement over WM6.1 and when I switched back I did notice more smoother and quicker operation under 6.1
My personal recommendation is to stick to 6.1 mate!
I haven't really noticed any usable improvements in WM6.5 (however the latest versions are adding more finger friendly softkeys/close/start/keyboard buttons). There is of course the new Titanium Home Screen which is a great improvement over the standard home screen, but I still don't find it as useful as Manila.
I keep going back to the 6.1 roms as they seem to be snappier, and 6.5 still feels too buggy in my opinion. Each to their own.
Hi,
Thanks for your opinions. Seems that I'm not the only one who doesn't understand the hype of v6,5.
If used without Manila - of course 6,5 is better. But as we all use HTC GUI - no sense of installing 6,5.
I like the in-built kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the more intuitive Start menu, especially when the cooked ROM has made it more organised. If you only ever touch Manila, then it's probably not worth going with WM6.5. However, if you do like everything to flow more smoothly and be more "finger friendly" then go with WM6.5
dannyboi1988 said:
I like the in-built kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the more intuitive Start menu, especially when the cooked ROM has made it more organised. If you only ever touch Manila, then it's probably not worth going with WM6.5. However, if you do like everything to flow more smoothly and be more "finger friendly" then go with WM6.5
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What is not "finger friendly" in Win6.1+Manila? I don't use Stylus at all.. so I think everything's more or less friendly in Manila.
What I wanted to say is: when you use Manila - you don't see operating system behind it.
And is really native Win6.5 GUI better/more intuitive/faster than Manila?
try " because it is a newer version " for the reason why folks like lol
I dont like manila (too restrictive) and use the SPB shell. As you're probably aware, the shell falls back to winmo for many functions and in that regard, i much prefer the 6.5 interface when you're "outside" of the shell.
xxx045+ builds look to be even better.
Frankly the telstra rom was a bit of a dog anyway, although i'll admit ive not tried any cooked 6.1 roms.
personally ... i more on 6.1 coz im create my own ROM base on that...
6.5 still buggy .. so im not plan on that.
This is personal taste, some prefer wm6.1 and some wm6.5. Not everyone is going to agree on this as everyone has different opinions/tastes.
People are waiting for the official release of wm6.5 as currently all cooked roms using wm6.5 are using leaked/beta versions, so the final product should hopefully be more stable.
I'm still not aware of any official release date for wm6.5, though autumn/winter of this year would be a good bet.
HTC won't be releasing wm6.5 for the HD, but once its officially released, don't worry you'll find that version on the HD
As title of this thread is opinionated I am closing this thread
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
That's a good question. I don't know if a total stock ROM exist with 6.5.1/3 and Manila 2.5.
Give it a try
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So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
geejayoh said:
So....
I have a TP2 ( RHO100 ) and I have the stock WWE rom from HTC with WM6.5 installed but now the the HD2 is out I've seen videos of it with the new Manila 2.5.
And I have fallen in love with the wdiget home screen and new fully screen weather animations. I am also very interested in the ability to have threaded SMS.
I have tried doing some searches for ROMs that contain the new manila 2.5 but I am not sure which one would be best. A lot of them seem to make their own preferential upgrades, or they removed parts to make them faster, but I am a little wary they may cut out things that I want.
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as close to the stock as possible, whilst just upgrading to WM6.5.1 and Manila 2.5, with all the original stuff. I'd like to customise my taskbar etc myself rather than have it chosen for me...
What can you guys recommend?
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Can I also back this question, that is exactly what I am looking for.
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
vinsyl said:
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
The best ROM ! Stable for daily use...
As my try outs, and i have tried most of the ROMs here...
You "must" try this BEST ARK AF_Rhodium ROM.
It is the best stable daily use that i am using for couple days.
The ROM kink to forum origin...
Enjoy your Rhodium Phone!
BeEazy10 said:
Im using |STABLE-FAST|ROM|Josh's New Perfect Black, Links UP!|11-13|Sense 2.1| the title say it all. his rom are amazing there fast, stable, and he would try to add anything on that you like! his v1.6 is coming out. Atm v1.5 out and a beta of v1.6 is out. What you're looking for is a rare find but if anything check out his rom im sure you would like it
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Thanks man, but I guess I'm more into Manila 2.5 than any other customisations.
elab said:
vinsyl said:
Originally Posted by vinsyl View Post
Hi,
My experience...
I have tried many roms (energy, athineos, josh's, fusion...) and first, I think, you have to decide if you want:
- windows mobile 6.1(very old), 6.5, 6.5.1 or 6.5.3. There are separates into 2 categories (6.1 and 6.5 / 6.5.1 and 6.5.3). The most difference I have noticed is that the button "Start" is on the top left corner or at the bottom of the screen.
- manila 2.1 or 2.5. The version 2.5 is most recent but there are many bugs for the landscape mode. It doesn't work for many tabs. But it is the best of both version. The version 2.1 is working fine.
After, for all roms I have tried, every times I have some bugs. Often there are very very minor problems (example: bugs with the lock screen, freeze, slow performance...) and to solve them I just have to soft reset the phone. I think it depend of your provider, rom radio, utilization of your phone: bluetooth with headset, software you use...
You must also choose the design you prefer.
Testing is the best way to find your best rom.
Very big thinks to all chief who work hardto create these roms.
I hope it can help you and you can read my bad english;-).
Bye.
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Hi Vinsyl,
Thanks for your detailed answer, you make a lot of good points.
I think I need to stop being lazy and just get on with trying them all I think !
Thanks again, and your English is great.
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Vinsyl, thanks very much yes, elab is right, you make some good points.
However, may I digress...
I have already done a lot of investigating into the differences between the builds....
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
- After research I also came to the conclusion that it Manila 2.5 was heavily buggy in pre-release, especially in landscape mode..... however, having now seen a full release on the HD2 and I'm guessing working in full landscape mode with all it's own apps, I was guessing that one of the CHEF's will have had a chance to rip Manila 2.5 out of the HD2 and whack it in a TP2 rom.
So Remember, I'm not looking for a STOCK rom, that comes from HTC. I'm looking for a Stock ROM base, cooked up to WM 6.5.1 with a seasoning of Manila 2.5 and no further additives. Is there a chef willing to try something so CRAZY?!
geejayoh said:
- I mentioned that I want to see 6.5.1 because it's more stable and more importantly has threaded SMS, which is what I'm after more than anything.
- It's only 6.5.3 from what I can tell which has moved the start menu to those silly blobs at the bottom.
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6.5 does threaded SMS. (it's the first thing I turn off though, I hate it) You will need a tweak program to enable / disable, sometimes the cook will provide something built in. (sometimes in Start -> Settings -> System menu there is a "Threaded SMS" icon, otherwise use Rhodium Tweak Tool or HD Tweak one of those will do it)
And 6.5.1 has the "silly blobs at the bottom" same as 6.5.3
If you want start menu at the top you want 6.5 (or 6.1 I suppose). Also if you are looking for STABLE you want 6.5.
6.5.1 / 6.5.3 are from leaked Microsoft BETA code and therefore aren't really designed to be stable, of course you may find they are stable for you, I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
MadBeef said:
I used to run a 23064 (one of last 23xxx builds with start menu at top) EnergyROM and it was awesome. Also with the build numbers, a general rule is 21xxx is 6.5, 23xxx is 6.5.1 and 28xxx is 6.5.3. But there is a better post you may want to search for regarding this, goes into more detail if you are interested.
Good luck in your quest
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question why did you stop using it? I am thinking of picking up EnergyROM_23081
As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?
What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?
That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.
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That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.
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i could see your signature rom is Lauretius 3.5, that is at the moment by daeron's benchmark the fastest ROM, if you want something else faster than that, get yourself a HD2.
please stop spamming the thread with your "I want this!!! I want that!!!"
I cooked my one from Ervius... fast and stable 28004 (I will upgrade soon)... no htc ****ty staff (except some tools). I can post you somewhere while I do not share it public until one bug is solved - when I open SMS, close and open another, outlook shuts down. But if you do not mind about this little bug and if you are able to customize your startmenu (via copying the items in windows/start menu folder)... it is not problem you could be my first tester
otherwise - i can share one significant information - after SR only 29% of RAM occupied
I want the fastest and stable ROM without the buggy and slow TouchFlo 3D interface!
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everyone wants the same like u
to be honest im also sick and tired of all this HTC customizing, TouchFlo, Sense etc.. Perhaps it makes sense on HD2, Ive had one for a couple of days and it was moving ok with its SnapDragon of 1GHz, but for HD Sense interface is simply unusable for a regular business-like usage...
Just use wm6.5's own interface Titanium.
Or even faster, use the standard wm6.1 interface
Just uncheck TouchFlow or Sense in your settings->today menu
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What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?
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SPB works great on any ROM. just switch off the touchflo/Sence.
The only prob is you cant use a ROM with HTC messaging in a threaded mode.
A half a year i heaving trouble with flashing new roms and they all unstable ... I appreciate the time of developers ,they wants to do something really useful, however to me it does not enough good for everyday use ..
So, i finished my job with official release of rom for HD and I installed a new SPB mobile shell and that is most stable combination for me..All shortcuts that I want is there... No bugs...
Or try iPhoneToday, the fastest UI I've ever tested, and very simple. Perhaps too simple for fans of SPB, but I like iPhoneToday.
Well, I would say nothing will satisfy you unless you upgrade your device aka HD2. Cos the combination of WM6.5, WM6.5.3 with Sense 2.5 is meant for higher spec HD2.
I would think WM6.5.1 with Sense 2.1 is still acceptable.
hobs0n said:
As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?
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Get Dutty's 4.3 for 6.1 thats the fastest you can possibly have, fast TF3D haven't spot any bugs but yeah, its for 6.1 so it wont have the added features like the Manila 2.5 (using Dutty's Holy Grail) although its a lot slower, its manageable and if you use Titanium only, its actually fast.
Then there's the PointUi..although its looks cool at start, fast by the way...but i got bored of it faster than the default titanium and TF3D.
Default Titianium is good with 6.5 TouchFlo interface with sliding left or right is crap after using it in realworld situations.
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
try this
there is ROM without manila http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
I use it with SPBMS
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which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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if you're just going to use spb mobile shell, no need to look for a rom that is super light, even if it has manila, just disable it and you should be good to go. problems sometimes with super light is they may have 'overlooked' some parts resulting to a rom with bugs.
Like I said a while ago, Dutty's 4.3 final was the fastest I have tested. disable TF3D then it wont use up additional resources and maintain somewhere 17%-20% (with TF3D around 33%) what you should be looking for is a very stable one and so far this 4.3 is bug free. then you can enjoy ur spb interface. but feel free to try the latest release by others...just my two cents.
pauernet said:
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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Johnpatcher. Its old, but awsome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972
pauernet said:
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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I am using Topix 3.1.1 ( windows 6.1 ) with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, i have about 116 mb free memory ( HTC Touch HD ).
I have tried many roms and Topix is great with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.
Get a rom with manila 2.1, live happy.
Manila 2.5 is cool but too slow on this device.