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Unlimited SMS APP

Anyone try this application lately, apparently it let you send unlimited amount of SMS to ppl. Not sure how it work or does it? If this work is going to be a steal.

That kind of thing will only work in some areas. The way it works is that it uses a web-sms interface and therefore depends on the sms-provider having access to the target's sms web interface, so its not really free, it uses your data. Probably ad-supported as well.
Why use sms though? Kinda obsolete. If you want to send a message to someone, send them an EMAIL -- size is unlimited, it uses ONLY data, and there are no ads.

lbcoder said:
That kind of thing will only work in some areas. The way it works is that it uses a web-sms interface and therefore depends on the sms-provider having access to the target's sms web interface, so its not really free, it uses your data. Probably ad-supported as well.
Why use sms though? Kinda obsolete. If you want to send a message to someone, send them an EMAIL -- size is unlimited, it uses ONLY data, and there are no ads.
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LOL obsolete the billions of messages beg to differ!
yeah and you need a data connection for that, which not everyone has.

Free SMS App?

Is there any app out there that lets you send free sms?

google voice

any others?

SMS is a feature of your cell provider, not the phone, so there is no magical free SMS app.
Google Voice routes incoming text via their own servers, as opposed to your provider's. It then has the option to either forward it to your phone as an actual SMS (in which case you will incur the usual charges) or via the data connection (GPRS/EDGE/3G), in which case it will be "free" since it bypasses providers' networks. However, forwarding is the default behavior unless you turn it off in your account settings at http://voice.google.com.

did you search in the market. i think there may be one ( i know there was one a while back) but how reliable it is, i cannot tell you (unlimited sms)

you could just use aim to send sms for free. as long as you have a data plan.

i know for a fact that there are free sms apps out there. search the market.

Or quit being cheap and get the data plan with unlimited texts.

This is a good question. It's either you being ripped off by the big companies or you being considered "cheap". If you have a data plan (which I'm guessing you do if you have a G1), you could just use email to text people's numbers. Most popular carriers let people receive texts from email, so if my number was (555)555-5555, you can email to [email protected] for verizon, [email protected] for AT&T, [email protected] for T-Mobile, and a few others listed here and at other places on the Internet.
To read more about the ongoing ripoff that is what we know as SMS, read below:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business/28digi.html?_r=3
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/14/txts_r_v_pricey/
You can also find more info on it by Googling "sms ripoff".

if you use google voice then the first time you text someone your phone will ask you to use messaging or google voice, choose google voice and check the box to make it default. From that point on you will text like normal but everything will go out via google voice. The only downfall is that people have to send texts to your google voice number instead of your phone number and google voice's app sometimes has a couple minute delay on receiving the sms.

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Or quit being cheap and get the data plan with unlimited texts.
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No! I'm sick of bending over to the carriers.
<rant mode>
I refuse to pay their exuberant prices for services that cost them NOTHING. I already pay for data (btw, the US data plans are one of the most expensive in the world), so how is it that different from text? I understand charging extra for MMS since it puts extra load on the network, but friggin' TEXT?!? Come on. The only reason there hasn't been a major public outrage about this ridiculous scam is because the silent majority of texters are teenagers whose phone bills are paid by mommies and daddies.
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[Q] Does Assist work with Google Voice?

One of the features of the Moto X that I've been looking forward to most is the Assist app, which can - among other things - read text messages to you while you're driving. However I'm a Google Voice user, and I'm not sure if that feature integrates with Voice, or if it will only work with messages received through the standard messaging app on the phone.
Does anyone know if these two play nice together?

Not out of box
Ok so Assist has no options to tell it what messaging app to read from. So, it does not integrate with Voice. However, if you have enabled the feature which sends messages to you regular app from Voice then it should read them. However, I imagine that you probably do not have it set up this way.
Until someone comes up with a Voice+ option for stock Android it probably won't work.
tl;dt No.

I think google has lost interest in Google Voice. I can see it coming up on the chopping block in the future. They already got a treasure trove of voicemails to train their voice recognition technology on, so they no longer have anything interesting to gain from supporting the service. Like Google Reader (RIP), it is a very useful service that has no way of generating real revenue for Google.
The lack of MMS support is already killing it for me. Once the iphone started sending all multiple-recipient texts as MMS, it meant I would miss important messages (with no notification that I missed it and no notification to the sender that I never got it). This wasn't a big deal when it meant I missed silly photos from people's camera phones, but now I miss real messages.
Now they are releasing fancy new features like Assist, that don't even work with Voice.
I wonder if there is a way to swap my phone numbers. Can I move my GV number to my AT&T account and my AT&T number to google voice? I like my GV number better, and it is local to my city, but a lot of people still use my "real" number due to both the MMS issue and the fact that I only got GV in 2009.

Disappointing, but not totally unexpected. Oh well. Thanks for checking!

ottothecow said:
I think google has lost interest in Google Voice. I can see it coming up on the chopping block in the future. They already got a treasure trove of voicemails to train their voice recognition technology on, so they no longer have anything interesting to gain from supporting the service. Like Google Reader (RIP), it is a very useful service that has no way of generating real revenue for Google.
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I have no inside knowledge, but chances are Google Voice is not going away in the near future. In fact, they are integrating it with Hangouts. There is a war waging over control over the means of users messaging and there is no way Google is going to just give that up.
Now they are releasing fancy new features like Assist, that don't even work with Voice.
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Google might own Motorola but that doesn't mean that Motorola IS Google. This is Moto's feature and I don't even see why they would have integrated it with Voice honestly.
I wonder if there is a way to swap my phone numbers. Can I move my GV number to my AT&T account and my AT&T number to google voice? I like my GV number better, and it is local to my city, but a lot of people still use my "real" number due to both the MMS issue and the fact that I only got GV in 2009.
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You can port your number out of Google Voice just like you can port numbers into it.

SMS based location tracking app

Hi all,
I'm looking for an app that will send the location of a WP8 phone by SMS when mobile internet is not available.
Even better if the app could respond to a SMS received.
I know there where apps like this for Windows Mobile 6.5 but haven't seen any for WP8.
Thanks,
JW

jwb said:
Hi all,
I'm looking for an app that will send the location of a WP8 phone by SMS when mobile internet is not available.
Even better if the app could respond to a SMS received.
I know there where apps like this for Windows Mobile 6.5 but haven't seen any for WP8.
Thanks,
JW
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This is impossible for two reasons...
1) There is no API which would use services that cost you money on your behalf (well, except data connections, but when you turn it off, it stays off). Consequently, there is no way for apps to legally intercept SMSes.
2) Some mobile operators do not allow the usage of such apps, to prevent traffic overflows.
You can, however,. find apps which allow you to send location through SMS manually.

Well, no way for a third-party app in the store. It's actually possible with homebrew on interop-unlocked phones. I've considered writing a demo app for how to intercept and send SMS programmatically.
Wouldn't help unless you have a phone that can be interop-unlocked though.

mcosmin222 said:
This is impossible for two reasons...
1) There is no API which would use services that cost you money on your behalf (well, except data connections, but when you turn it off, it stays off). Consequently, there is no way for apps to legally intercept SMSes.
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This is not correct. Windows phone uses SMS intercept as a backup to trigger app download, location reporting, and remote ringing (aka find my phone) with capabilities ID_CAP_SMS_INTERCEPT_AGENT and ID_CAP_SMS_INTERCEPT_RECIPIENT. The API function to send an SMS is, logically enough, SmsSendMessage (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee498244.aspx). There are no laws that prevent intercepting SMS messages on the device to which the SMS is sent.

That's a CE API, not an NT one... it may be present on WP8 (un-modified, I mean; obviously they have *some* API for sending SMS) but the documentation you linked may be incorrect. In any case, I would be very interested to know what capability is required to use it... that would allow a wholsesale replacement of the built-in SMS utility, potentially (on capability-unlocked phones).
However, what I suspect mcosmin222 meant is that there's no such *public* API and no app that did that would ever be allowed into the store...

GoodDayToDie said:
That's a CE API, not an NT one... it may be present on WP8 (un-modified, I mean; obviously they have *some* API for sending SMS) but the documentation you linked may be incorrect. In any case, I would be very interested to know what capability is required to use it... that would allow a wholsesale replacement of the built-in SMS utility, potentially (on capability-unlocked phones).
However, what I suspect mcosmin222 meant is that there's no such *public* API and no app that did that would ever be allowed into the store...
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Thanks for all the replies. Gave me some more insight.
In the new Lumia Black software, there is this "Driving Mode". There you have the option to have auto text replies to incoming calls AND text messages.
So it looks there is some kind of API but probably not publicly available?

jordanmills said:
This is not correct. Windows phone uses SMS intercept as a backup to trigger app download, location reporting, and remote ringing (aka find my phone) with capabilities ID_CAP_SMS_INTERCEPT_AGENT and ID_CAP_SMS_INTERCEPT_RECIPIENT. The API function to send an SMS is, logically enough, SmsSendMessage (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee498244.aspx). There are no laws that prevent intercepting SMS messages on the device to which the SMS is sent.
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Legal way in the context of the marketplace.
There's legal APIs and illegal APIs, and anything which has to do with SMS (aside from Sms compose task) is illegal on the marketplace for the average developer.
There is obviously an API which allows WP8 to send SMS, but that is contained only for internal system use.

mcosmin222 said:
Legal way in the context of the marketplace.
There's legal APIs and illegal APIs, and anything which has to do with SMS (aside from Sms compose task) is illegal on the marketplace for the average developer.
There is obviously an API which allows WP8 to send SMS, but that is contained only for internal system use.
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The app that might be of use to find which hidden API calls could be used to intercept SMS messages is the Nokia's "call + SMS filter" (http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/call-sms-filter/c459945b-d93f-4aae-9207-c6ab1d971357). But the unknown is whether or not that would work on non-Nokia's or could it work on all WP8 devices (I'd install it on my Ativ S to copy its content, but unfortunately it's FS access has been blocked with me installing GDR3, the developer 10521)...

Samsung has their own. Its called "call blocking"

Is it possible to develop an application by using the SMS to get the location?

GV Callback Donate byXinlu - Authentication Error!

Starting a few days ago GV Callback Donate byXinlu has an authentication problem, free and paid. " Login Failed! Possible error: You do not seem to have a Google Voice account. Setup your account at www.google.com/voice"
The Dev has not responed to email or official GV support forum post yet. As of right now 5-13-2015 I am putting out a bounty of $200 for a work around or a similar functioning application.
http://www.amazon.com/Xinlu-GV-Callback-Donate/dp/B004V9BX1Q/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
Another similar/same app: https://code.google.com/p/gvcallback/ DOES NOT authenticate either

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Starting a few days ago GV Callback Donate byXinlu has an authentication problem, free and paid. " Login Failed! Possible error: You do not seem to have a Google Voice account. Setup your account at www.google.com/voice"
The Dev has not responed to email or official GV support forum post yet. As of right now 5-13-2015 I am putting out a bounty of $200 for a work around or a similar functioning application.
http://www.amazon.com/Xinlu-GV-Callback-Donate/dp/B004V9BX1Q/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
Another similar/same app: https://code.google.com/p/gvcallback/ DOES NOT authenticate either
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I am having the same issue.
But have you considered switching to Google Hangouts Dialer?
Just a thought since I don't know your use-case scenario.
I found my GV Callback setup redundant after Hangouts came out

Yes, I am using the hangouts dialer but the BIG issue for me is hangouts uses Voip while GV callback by xinlu uses the API to ring your main cell number to connect your call. Using GVC I was able to use the stock dialer, uses filters, and the widget to turn on or off GVC completely. My fix for right now is to use the GV website dialer, which for some hellish reason does not support paste and you cannot search your contacts, just scroll through them and please remember this is the Google voice Mobile site, the desktop site is a pain even on a NOTE 3. In reality, if I could paste into the website dialer I would not be offering the bounty but I am a contractor who makes around 50+ calls a day and cover a rural area where LTE is not always available so VOIP sometimes is not feasible on one bar 3G. If anyone has any ideas, please, do tell!
Thank you
YkH

Same problem. Breaks my heart... I've used GV Callback for years.
Xinlu used to be responsive, so I do hope he's okay.
Tried another app (Voice+) but is temperamental on my device.

Same problem.
I've been using this app for years to avoid using minutes. It's been a life-saver. I'd be really grateful if it got fixed.

rt9 said:
I've been using this app for years to avoid using minutes. It's been a life-saver. I'd be really grateful if it got fixed.
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Ditto. Still feel bereft.