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Are there any Diamond owners with stock roms that are happy

Just wandering because I have wanted a Diamond from the very first time I set eyes on one. I am not into messing with it as much as I see most members are here. I surely would like to have a better, faster, stronger Diamond but not at the expense of having to reboot every other day, or having it do some weird thing just when I need it the most. I need to know, should I get one, given that I probably am too chicken to mod it? My main uses would be basic phone functions, camera and GPS. I am not really into music and surfing is really too slow and costly, except over WIFI, which I never seem to get when I really need it .
Thanks Wayne.

My Orange ROM is fine. No branding. Fast and stable. Does everyting you want
Installed a few extra apps like Tomtom and S2P (music player)

I have the NAM version available at best buy. No problems at all with the stock rom. Its fast stable, and the radios, gps, etc all work fine. Cant see flashing a rom when I have no problems with the stock rom and no performance issues. Fiddling is a different story. IMO the diamond needs some tweaking to reach its potential. An example would be that on mine at the tf3d home screen there is a soft button for phone which performs exactly the same as the hard button for phone. Cant figure out who thought it would be a good idea but I used advanced config to change the softkey to contacts.

I am happy with the phone, especially its compact size. I haven't flashed any ROM yet, just using the Telstra stock rom for the last 5 months. Very stable and no hard-reset so far. Though I think I would flash some other ROMs soon as I just can't resist the temptations and the excitement of playing with the phone.

krabman said:
I have the NAM version available at best buy. No problems at all with the stock rom. Its fast stable, and the radios, gps, etc all work fine. Cant see flashing a rom when I have no problems with the stock rom and no performance issues. Fiddling is a different story. IMO the diamond needs some tweaking to reach its potential. An example would be that on mine at the tf3d home screen there is a soft button for phone which performs exactly the same as the hard button for phone. Cant figure out who thought it would be a good idea but I used advanced config to change the softkey to contacts.
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I have the US Version too, I got it from Ebay last week, and some tweaks via Advanced Config it's running like a champ! The only issue I have is every once in a while, TouchFlo 3F will freeze for what seems like forever, then start working again okay, I'm not sure if it's just normal or something is conflicting somewhere.

Using stock rom since first day i got my diamond, only hard reset once since, and thats the first day i got it
the only thing that irks me is the meager amount of device memory available
Looking through all the custom roms, doesnt really find one that suits me, so.. stock rom for me then

Stock Sprint ROM here... no issues, other than the phone's lack of device memory as stated above. Not much I can do there, and I like the look of Sprint's TF3D, so I'm keeping it.

been running stock UK ROM for six months and working fine. Would love to take some of the apps out that came with phone to free up memory such as IE and MSN, but can't do that without using a cooked ROM, and my need does not take me past the point of having a bricked phone to do it! I have installed some other programs (mostly games), but if you are using the phone for what you say you will have no bother at all with memory.
The only bad things about the phone is the battery life is rubbish with the stock 940 battery. I have upgraded to the 1340 one and that has solved all my problems, so I would say try and get one with the bigger battery with it (bear in mind it does make the phone slightly wider and the back cover is matt not gloss that comes with the larger battery).
Hope this helps.

Yes best phone i ever had

Very happy with the stock 1.93 ROM. I only reset maybe once every month, and the phone is on 24/7. Best thing I did was to disable TouchFlow 3D and install SPB Mobile Shell.

o2 German Stock Rom 1.93 with small reg. Tweaks. Runs fine and i am happy.

Wow, that's great to hear. I think you get too caught up in all the negative stuff when you do any kind of search on electronic devices. I am not apposed to flashing a new rom it is just that I know with every good thing there is always attached some weird and wonderful "bug". I am also not apposed to tweaking as I have done so with my Touch. Do any of you have any issues with the GPS? Again, a lot of negative stuff out there, especially about position lag. I just tried a CDMA version at Telus in Toronto, Canada and while playing with the Tflo 3D I noticed some lag at times. It was fast and smooth then it would not move then it seemed to catch up but I had already tried to move it again so it was all over the place then it would be okay. I am waiting for Rogers to get it and if not I might bite the bullet and get an unlocked one.
Thanks for all your replies it is nice to see that I do not have to flash a new rom to be happy.
Dhatw.

A happy one here too with a german stock ROM...

i love my stock rom, i have changed the www europe rom with the eastern Europe stock rom, foundit on an Romanian site.. basically is the same, and i have tried custom rom but they wore not of what i expected so i'm happy with my stock rom, until i learn how to cook mine

I love my diamond, stock unlocked US 3G.

Running stock WWE 1.93 ROM with minor tweaks, cant remember the last time I had to reset & on 24/7.
Top phone, best I've had yet !

Yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,

hapy too with my 1.93 htc rom
the only suggestion I have is
A) Flash the .08 radio (much better for gps easy and no hard reset)
B) use diamond tweak to customize your phone
C) disable quick gps (with diamond tweak)

i did a little bit of theme modding to get rid of most of the stinky T-Mobile branding, other than that everything is running fast and smooth.
would probably be faster and smoother by running another ROM / Radio, but i'm not bothered enough to tinker about that much, not yet anyway.
battery life is a bit crappy when you've got the heavyweights running (GPS/WiFi) but then you'd expect that. phone also gets very hot when charging or in heavy use.
keeps me warm in winter.
overall, i'm definitely happy. if ever i doubt getting this phone i'll put my sim back in my MDA Touch for an hour to remind myself of why i needed a new handset.

At first I was bothered by the battery life but now I either charge overnight or leave it in a cradle at work so it's not an issue, unless I go camping or something
I realised within a few weeks that I didn't like TF3D but, having got rid of it and the HTC Dialer & Volume Control, the Diamond is a much better device now.
I'm unsure if I'll get another HTC device but I'm hoping within the next year-and-a-bit they can come up with a device the same size with a better battery and TV out!
Edit - Oh yeah, not a stock ROM!

How do you deal with the Kaiser speed today ?

Hello,
I now own my Kaiser for about one year (or a little less). But I'm still not satisfied about the overall speed of the device. I'm not talking about reading videos or playing games, just about "normal" use of the Kaiser.
For exemple, opening the HTC phone application (dial pad) takes around 3 seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !
Another exemple is going to landscape mode which takes 4 seconds ! And when it is in landscape, my Kaiser is like freezed for about 2 other seconds before I can use it.
A 3rd exemple, when answering calls: my Kaiser rings, I press the green button to answer, but it takes around 2-3 seconds before it does really answer. In the mean time, I sometimes loose my call, and this is really frustrating again !
I know I'm only talking about seconds, but I use my Kaiser a lot in a day, and these seconds become minutes ! And when I need to use my Kaiser quickly, these seconds appear much longer than they really are.
My ROM is the original HTC 6.1 ROM. My Kaiser is as light as possible (no Manilla 2D !), but it does not seem to be enough for my Kaiser to be fast.
I tried some cooked ROMS, but from what I experienced the HTC 6.1 is the faster. I also tweaked my Kaiser with all the informations I could find on this great forum (and KaiserTweak)
I would really enjoy an overclocker utility but it does not exist.
So, about you, are you satisfied with your Kaiser speed ?
Isn't there days where you would throw it against a wall because of these anoying lags ?
Thanks !

If this damn thing eats another microSD card I AM going to throw it against the wall. I'm getting tired of loosing my crap and having to re-do everything.

what about the speed of your ka
iser : is it ok for you ?

No complaints about the "speedyness" of the tilt after flashing to a good ROM. If another one fails I'm sending it back and demanding an upgrade to a Fuze tho.

i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?

Dear,
Same problems as yours... Using same rom from HTC !
Very slow phone for each task i need
Boring phone when hang-up or dialing, boring when using tt6 and now tt7 (too slow when driving in little streets, and sometimes truncating voices messages), and more generally, very very slow (and i do not speak about camera).
Sure, this version is really a big bug
Comparing to other kind of phones, even cheaper models runs better (camera better and faster, gps fix faster, gps available even in flight mode.
Usually, when opening keyboard, applications hangs due to the screen rotation, and become available a long time after
Definitively, a real diseapointing device.
I'm now waiting for the renewal of my phone contract to change for something better (sure that is not difficult to find)
Regards,
Laurent

I highly recommend flashing a custom rom.
The rom chef's have done a fantastic job tweaking them to run much faster than the stock roms. Try on and you'll never look back.
I'm currently using the Nov 15'th Hyperdragon Rom and I have virtually no complaints about the speed of the rom for day to day activities. M2D runs very smoothly and is much more friendly to your fingers than any of the stock roms I've used.

aagil001 said:
i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
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Thanks a lot ! i did the hard reset followed by the soft reset , then I restored my data : now my Kaiser goes faster ! thanks again !

I have the same issue, not that the kaiser is really slow, but when I compare it with a Wizard (both have custom roms) the Wizard does things a lot faster, like opening start menu, scrolling isn't laggy, change tabs is fast. No matter what rom I use on my kaiser, I can't get to the use speed of the Wizard. Maybe it is because I install programs on the SD instead of the phone itself?

Nothing to Compare to
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will

wasilvers said:
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
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Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.

I noticed a marked improvement since I use some of the SKTools utilities like:
- Optimize! http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
- FreeUP RAM Service http://s-k-tools.com/?m_freeuprams.html
- Registry optimization http://s-k-tools.com/?/sktools/m_regopt.html
It has many other features and you can download a trial. It's really worth a try.

dear all,
how can you say that the kaiser isnot slow ?
I use PIE to read this forum, this thread takes 30 to 40 sec to load for 470 kB, while it takes few seconds to dowload bigger files !
I only use pie,tt7 and outlook sync for contacts and appointments.
I also tested 3 roms and tried to tweak some settings, without getting a normal speed.
kaiser is definitively a slow computer with a phone.
basic phones are more responsives than kaiser on many bundled applications.
I do think that kaiser has a lake of something... Maybe some drivers are missing, because if you look at the internal chipset used inside the kaiser, it should very very more powerfull

Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
Please enlighten me, because I hate this. I have to push the button multiples times to disconnect. I have SK Tools as well. It has many good features, unfortunately some of the things it recommends tweaking I have idea what those things are for. I need the cheat sheet for invalid registry entries and values.

I do experience what you describe and I've tried many different ROMs, right now I'm using Garmin.Dk 8 without Manila2d and all the "speed fixes" available.
It's just like that, it has Windows...
But on the other hand, I like that, because it makes it very customizable.
Depends on what you value most.

dizzy33 said:
Hello,
seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !Thanks !
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I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.

moosic said:
I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?

dear Spaul,
Windows is not the problem... Other htc phones have Windows and are fast. i.e. TYTN I is faster !
Problem is software, maybe drivers or hardware layer

denco7 said:
And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
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He has to keep up because he realizes the other 99% of the WM functionality is missing on his new phone and he'll want to come back.

Same thing here
Yeah I experience exactly the same things with mine. I'm not going out the custom ROM path, since it's a company phone. After having tried all sorts of things, I've kind of just accepted its slowness.
But one thing is for sure. After using first the s710, and the the tytn-ii, I'm 95% sure that my next phone is not going to be a HTC, unless I see some very convincing real life demo of the device.

Is there a fast,bug-free rom ?

Hi all,
I flashed my Blackstone round about 100time since I get it last year.
Duty,Miri,kwbr,energy,xanny and so on.....even some not so public.
I found not even one which works bugfree.
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
So can someone tell me a working rom ?
Cheers
Alex
(my favorite is KWBRs 3.4.x with manila 2.1 atm)

if you feel kwbr ROM than stick with it...different people have different experience so the ultimate question about "Which ROM is the BEST???" can only solve and answered by the user it self
just try and try until you feel satisfied or if you feel not one ROMs here can satisfied you than maybe "stock ROM" is the best for you

tharighteous said:
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
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+1 on that. by now i am already used to that, but this is something i used to be annoyed about from the beginning. when i end a call i takes way too long!
since it is a phone the phone function should be working fast and reliable (sometimes i cant end a call at all/it takes around 1 minute). isnt there anyway to accelerate the phone function?
hdizzel

By default, there's a 3 second delay when you hang up the phone. You can reduce this or turn it off via registry or one of several programs like "HTCPedia HD Settings Tool"

Hi Guys,
I have also flashed many on my Blackstone and i agree with you guys that most of the ROM's are sluggish !!!
But recently i have installed "[ROM] [WWE, GER] [16.01.10] BlackDragon 1.9 Speed King (Manila 2.5, WM 6.5)" .. this one works like a charm ... trust me its way better than the others and its fast too ... Not as fast as the stock one though ... but you still like the difference ...
Download the English one
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609382
Cheers
Sreejith

i think it's more of a PDA than a phone
also, remember that ROM chefs focus on different parts of the ROM, making different things faster due to personal preferences. Also remember that there are limitations to Windows Mobile, making it a woeful user experience. Hopefully WM 7 will fix a lot of that - but if you can't put up with these limitations, i'd suggest switching to Android, iPhone, Symbian or WebOS

tharighteous said:
Hi all,
I flashed my Blackstone round about 100time since I get it last year.
Duty,Miri,kwbr,energy,xanny and so on.....even some not so public.
I found not even one which works bugfree.
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
So can someone tell me a working rom ?
Cheers
Alex
(my favorite is KWBRs 3.4.x with manila 2.1 atm)
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You got the answer already. simply NO.

In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me

tsalta said:
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
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+ 1 on this
No roms are completely bug free as we are all using ported versions of wm6.5 as it hasn't been released for the HD, and never will.
Cooks are doing the best they can with the materials on offer. The latest roms (wm6.5, manila 2.5+) will always be more sluggish than manila 2.1, so why not try one of those. Plenty of threads already exist discussing this
EDIT
I've reopened thread by OP request

touchhdizzel said:
+1 on that. by now i am already used to that, but this is something i used to be annoyed about from the beginning. when i end a call i takes way too long!
since it is a phone the phone function should be working fast and reliable (sometimes i cant end a call at all/it takes around 1 minute). isnt there anyway to accelerate the phone function?
hdizzel
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yeah , this is my main problem !

fireedo said:
if you feel kwbr ROM than stick with it...different people have different experience so the ultimate question about "Which ROM is the BEST???" can only solve and answered by the user it self
just try and try until you feel satisfied or if you feel not one ROMs here can satisfied you than maybe "stock ROM" is the best for you
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no its not about "which ROM is the best " !
its about a main issue in ALL roms !
Maybe I would have another favorite if main phone function wouldnt be buddy
And as you see I am not the only one...who ich at first interested in this.
All the additional options of the different Roms are quiete cool...
One better than another. But at least the whole ROM is nothing without the basic option.
And its a phone, no netbook, no notebook......

skulk3r said:
i think it's more of a PDA than a phone
also, remember that ROM chefs focus on different parts of the ROM, making different things faster due to personal preferences. Also remember that there are limitations to Windows Mobile, making it a woeful user experience. Hopefully WM 7 will fix a lot of that - but if you can't put up with these limitations, i'd suggest switching to Android, iPhone, Symbian or WebOS
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pda, phone.....however.
who cares about how it is called ? I think nobody.
What I bought is a cellphone at first.
With many other options......which are working fine.
A PC, notebook, netbook I got at least.
But how can it be that the very first option to call/be reachable is buggy?
Please remember...we dont talking about a 50$ cell !
There are 3 digits !
Last year, as I get it I payed 600€...
Further you day that one focus this option to be faster...someone else speeds up another app....
ahm...sorry that I dont understand why notbody picks up the main task in order to get a working cellphone.
And you say WinX will fix. Sounds like the same **** Microsoft told us as the made the roll out of Win98, SE , ME, XP. Vista and so on.
I cannot hear this anymore...sorry.
NOBODY is interested in NO-WORKING SOLUTIONS.
Look at the iPhone. Working. No problem.Happy users.
Is there no way to priorise the "phone-task"?

tsalta said:
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
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thanks for you answer.
but 1500is NOT what we are talking about !
maybe its a step to the right direction.
I am talking about you never can say if your HD is lucky to end a call.
its a mess.
there is no excuse for this....wheter from HTC nor from MS.
I remember a phone with a dialplate.....about 20 years ago.
As I wanted to stop a call - it did ! magic? I dont believe !
Is there no option to priorize this "phone task" ?

ss.sreejith said:
Hi Guys,
I have also flashed many on my Blackstone and i agree with you guys that most of the ROM's are sluggish !!!
But recently i have installed "[ROM] [WWE, GER] [16.01.10] BlackDragon 1.9 Speed King (Manila 2.5, WM 6.5)" .. this one works like a charm ... trust me its way better than the others and its fast too ... Not as fast as the stock one though ... but you still like the difference ...
Download the English one
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609382
Cheers
Sreejith
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THANKS FOR THIS HINT !
kwbr was my fav...until today !
Blackdragon is as good as you say !
Found only the problem, that the bluetooth adress is not show @settings.
further here at xda-dev the cooker of this rom is answering quiet fast to user-problems as you can see. offering cabs to fix issues.
I like it until now at least

mcdull said:
You got the answer already. simply NO.
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((((((((
dont hope your right, but i think you are right at least.
not a problem of the cooker....just the normale micro**** as all the time.
If I look onto the time I spend for my cellphone ...ohoh...
other people educate a child in this time.
its simply a mess.

tharighteous said:
pda, phone.....however.
who cares about how it is called ? I think nobody.
What I bought is a cellphone at first.
With many other options......which are working fine.
A PC, notebook, netbook I got at least.
But how can it be that the very first option to call/be reachable is buggy?
Please remember...we dont talking about a 50$ cell !
There are 3 digits !
Last year, as I get it I payed 600€...
Further you day that one focus this option to be faster...someone else speeds up another app....
ahm...sorry that I dont understand why notbody picks up the main task in order to get a working cellphone.
And you say WinX will fix. Sounds like the same **** Microsoft told us as the made the roll out of Win98, SE , ME, XP. Vista and so on.
I cannot hear this anymore...sorry.
NOBODY is interested in NO-WORKING SOLUTIONS.
Look at the iPhone. Working. No problem.Happy users.
Is there no way to priorise the "phone-task"?
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I totally agree with you, but you'r wrong. If you want a working phone, try STOCK ROM, but don't complaint about cooked ROMs, especially if every master wants the hi-end/last version. All those ROMs are beta...

tharighteous said:
THANKS FOR THIS HINT !
kwbr was my fav...until today !
Blackdragon is as good as you say !
Found only the problem, that the bluetooth adress is not show @settings.
further here at xda-dev the cooker of this rom is answering quiet fast to user-problems as you can see. offering cabs to fix issues.
I like it until now at least
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Tommorow I recieve my HD. Will try this rom first! Thanks for this tip!

Hi,
i also switched back to manila 2.1 in topix rom. great roms! no bugs, very good performance. but why no manila 2.5?
as i read htc has released a win6.5 rom with manila 2.5 for the diamond 2. diamond 2 and blackstone have almost the same hardware. and i guess that a officially released rom from htc cant be that laggy. so it should be possible to produce a rom like this for the blackstone. it doesnt have to have the newest packages.
would be highly appreciated if one of the chefs could look into a fix to prioritize the phone task.
flashing blackdragon now. thx for the hint.
hdizzel
btw: still waiting for a landscape only rom. does anyone know if something like this has been released by one of our dear chefs??
update: blackdragon fast but topix faster (manila2.1) as expected

Hello guys ,
This is my first offiicial post here at XDA and my first hands on experience with a touch HD.
I spent a lot of time reading the wiki and the rest of the forum to try and understand the fone hardware and the software. I've been trying to install basic applications to see if it betters the performance according to my needs.
Now , before i decided to buy the touch HD.. i did a lot of research myself and i narrowed it down to two options . Either the touch pro 2 or the HD. And i decided to go for the HD because I did not like the slide out keyboard and I simply love the HD design.
Now my question is , Although both the touch pro 2 and the HD are similar in terms of hardware is there any option where I could flash the touch pro 2 ROM to the HD ?
I was playing around with my friends touch pro 2 today and I felt for a second that I should have bought the touch pro2 because of the amazing speed at which the touch flo 3D works on that. [ oh btw ,it was a touch pro 2 sprint version ]
I just need the same ROM in my HD and I will be very happy
Is this possible ? If not , any suggestions for a particular ROM that would get me very close to the same experience I had with the touch pro 2 ?

just a few things
To comment on the last question, I would like to say that a friend of mine just got the Touch Pro 2 from Verizon and we have tried 4 or 5 different custom ROMs on it. I noticed that his touch pro 2 did seem to perform slightly better than my Touch HD. It was true for pretty much all the ROMs that we tried, so I don't think you going to find any satisfaction from a Touch Pro 2 ROM on your HD, and rightfully so because their not intended for the HD because of radios and landscape keyboards and proximity sensors and speaker phone capabilities, TV-OUT option on the Touch Pro 2 (not available for the HD) etc, etc, etc. They aren't the same phone and they don't get the same ROMs.
To improve performance on the few short things that were mentioned at the beginning of this thread, do try the registry hack to remove the delay for end call, it helped me. It also helped me to remove the dialer's key tone. This really did improve dialing speed because I am a speed dialer, its very important to me, the key tone slows it down and I could imagine that the vibration feedback (vibration on touch dial and keyboard and other actions) also slows the operation of the device. I have noticed because the vibration feedback does not feel tactile to me, turning it off completely helped me to regain some of the speed that I felt was missing. Also I have tried installing a more legacy dialer on top of the original ROM dialer, that also improved the performance of the phone feature. Do yourself a favor and try those things and make sure you address the serious problem of the hold button being pressed while holding the phone to your face, too bad the Touch HD didn't come with a proximity sensor like the Touch Pro 2 does! Keep flashing bros, this is half the fun!

OS Lag - Other Options?

Hi,
I wanted to know if there is any way to run a different OS on this phone that supports all of the hardware.
I love the specs of this phone - and the form factor, however, it doesn't matter which ROM I use, the phone is just so unbearably slow. Even with the light ROMs.
I simply hate Windows Mobile. The processor is not that slow - it should be able to do plenty - but everything takes 3 seconds at least to open. I've missed an inordinate number of phone calls just because the stupid send button takes 10 seconds to respond.
Is there any option at all to forgo a WM ROM and use a different OS entirely?
How can I take advantage of the amazing hardware - but not be dragged down by the software?
HELP!

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Try flashing stock then ROM, changing Hard-SPL.. etc.
Never had problem with slow OS unless the ROM is an issue to which is very uncommon..

If it really takes 10 seconds to get the phone to answer a call...
One thing to check is memory -- Do you have a lot of stuff in your calls list or MMS texts? Clear them out.
Which ROMS have you tried? Any 6.1 or 6.5s?
There is no other usable OS now -- Android is getting close but it won't work with all the phone's components

OS Lag
stylez said:
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Try flashing stock then ROM, changing Hard-SPL.. etc.
Never had problem with slow OS unless the ROM is an issue to which is very uncommon..
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The last ROM I flashed that's exactly what I did - I flashed to a stack ROM - changed the Hard SPL.
The ROM I love - Shifu did a phenomenal job - but after a while - everything just begins to lag...and it's not just this ROM - it's every ROM. After a few weeks - everything just starts to miss a beat and then slowly unravel.
I'm surprised that you've never had any problems with the OS - the consensus is that WM is a generally slow OS - I just thought maybe there's a way to take advantage of the great hardware in the phone without having to use this OS.
Thanks for the advice though.
If you have any other suggestions - they would be much appreciated.

burtcom said:
If it really takes 10 seconds to get the phone to answer a call...
One thing to check is memory -- Do you have a lot of stuff in your calls list or MMS texts? Clear them out.
Which ROMS have you tried? Any 6.1 or 6.5s?
There is no other usable OS now -- Android is getting close but it won't work with all the phone's components
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Maybe not 10 seconds - but I have missed plenty of calls because the phone was completely unresponsive.
I do have a LOT of SMS' - maybe that's it. I just flashed to a new ROM (jjblaster3's 6.5) - it's great for now. I hope it stays that way. But they all start off great...you start installing a few programs and then nothing moves.
Thanks for the SMS/call history advice - I'll start clearing out now.
Anything else you can think of would be great.

I went through similar problems. Currently I am using the ROM "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261". This was the best ROM that I tested for my Kaiser.
I was not very fan of windows mobile too, because that i installed android at sdcard and recently found a very good application "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792" to streamline the boot process for the android, without having to wait for the windows mobile start and then boot the android. Android is fantastic, but as has already been said not everything works. The GPS and camera are the major problems yet.

Thanks
bernabap said:
I went through similar problems. Currently I am using the ROM "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261". This was the best ROM that I tested for my Kaiser.
I was not very fan of windows mobile too, because that i installed android at sdcard and recently found a very good application "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792" to streamline the boot process for the android, without having to wait for the windows mobile start and then boot the android. Android is fantastic, but as has already been said not everything works. The GPS and camera are the major problems yet.
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Thanks for the advice - I'm not going to head down the Android route yet...but I will check out the ROM you suggested. Have you tried any 6.5 ROMs you liked? I'm running jjblaster3 6.5 v2 right now.

Well personally, I like the STAXXX STYLE ROMs...they are 6.5.3...and VERY fast in my opinion.

ROM Suggestions
Thanks for the suggestion, any ROM recommendations would be much appreciated, here is what I'm looking for:
1) A fast ROM
2) No bugs with common things like text messages, bluetooth, WiFi, Internet
3) Good battery life
4) And if possible - 6.5 - but not mandatory
I know a LOT of hard work goes into cooking the ROMs, so I'm not complaining - but I've found that there are always small bugs that are real deal breakers for me.
I've tried:
1) AthineOS Manila Edition
Text issues, backlight issues
2) Shifu (3.2)
Text issues, screen rotation issues, wifi issues, phone got stuck a lot towards the end (had to soft reset twice a day at times)
3) Jjblaster3 v2
Battery life (very poor - need to charge twice a day) - because there is no easy way to switch between 3G and GPRS (any quick fix for this?)

shar1r said:
Thanks for the suggestion, any ROM recommendations would be much appreciated, here is what I'm looking for:
1) A fast ROM
2) No bugs with common things like text messages, bluetooth, WiFi, Internet
3) Good battery life
4) And if possible - 6.5 - but not mandatory
I know a LOT of hard work goes into cooking the ROMs, so I'm not complaining - but I've found that there are always small bugs that are real deal breakers for me.
I've tried:
1) AthineOS Manila Edition
Text issues, backlight issues
2) Shifu (3.2)
Text issues, screen rotation issues, wifi issues, phone got stuck a lot towards the end (had to soft reset twice a day at times)
3) Jjblaster3 v2
Battery life (very poor - need to charge twice a day) - because there is no easy way to switch between 3G and GPRS (any quick fix for this?)
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This baby is fast as hell! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 try it

Any known bugs?
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This baby is fast as hell! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 try it
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I have actually already downloaded that one - so as soon as my battery is more than 50% - I'll flash.
Thanks!
Do you know of anything to look out for bug-wise?

shar1r said:
I have actually already downloaded that one - so as soon as my battery is more than 50% - I'll flash.
Thanks!
Do you know of anything to look out for bug-wise?
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No bugs reported so far

[Q] Looking for a good 6.5.x ROM (manila, stable, fast)

First of all, my google-fu is very weak. Furthermore, the forum search engine apparently hates me, so please don't say anything about research or searching. I've tried and failed spectacularly. Also, I'm something of a newbie, so please be merciful. Thank you.
My old ROM is starting to act up, so I'm looking for a fast and stable Windows Mobile 6.5.x ROM with TouchFlo3D. Other things I can't live without are the long-press End and Call keys and the long-press Power key drop-down menu (like in the Touch X ROMs by smaberg), but if those can be installed afterwards without messing the ROM up, they're not required in the ROM itself.
Also, I never use the Xperia Panels (always delete all the Panel stuff and re-bind the X-Panel key to Nitrogen ), so not having the Panel Manager would be a plus.
I have previously used mainly the Touch X ROMs (I'm a huge fan), but they're not available in 6.5, so I'm willing to experiment with some 6.5 in order to (hopefully) find a new favorite. My current ROM is the Touch X 10.9.1 Nuts, that's the kind of speed and reliability I'm used to.
What I mainly use my Xperia for:
Calling and texting, naturally (VITO SMS-Chat)
Getting up in the morning (ageye G-Alarm)
Music (Nitrogen)
Internet (Opera Mobile 10)
GPS (Google Maps)
Notes (OneNote Mobile)
Movies (Media Player)
I'm going to install all of those by myself, so don't worry about them.
Thanks in advance for any help, guys!

Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.

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Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.
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totally agree, so far Dynamics 2.0 is the best choice.

Dynamics 2.0 seems to have TF3D all right and I can do the long-press keys by myself. I'll surely try Dynamics out.
EDIT: Found the drop-down menu thingy, it's smaberg's Actionscreen.

try one of energy's roms. they are very fast and stable, with a host of customizations.

Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?

Tych0n said:
Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?
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frankly speaking Dynamics seems like a rather new ROM (post Jan 2011) and since i 'decommissioned my X1 in Dec as a secondary phone to my Milestone 2, i havent gotten around trying it. however, from my experience of using many other ROMs, i personally found energy's ROMs to be really FAST and STABLE. it shouldnt take much getting used to as its based on the HTC HD2 (with the latest HTC sense).
if you are looking for raw speed, then go for the most basic version with the least applications. i think it should be labeled as sense 2018. however if you wanna save yourself the time from installing programs from nitrogen to opera, go for his sense 2019. and since he has skinned many variants, you can choose the design you like best.
hope it helps. if u really do want, i can try find some time over the weekend to flash the Dynamics ROM and let you know how it is. do let me know anyway.
cheers

BEFORE I FORGET
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886371
you can also check this out. ROMs which do not have TouchFlo or HTC Sense tend to be comparatively faster. though i havent personally tried pure, i heard some pretty good remarks on it.
my advice, if u can, try them both out. Pure and Energy, with and without Sense, and see which suits your personal needs the best.
hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
cheers

hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
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You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.

Tych0n said:
You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.
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so sorry for the late reply. just got up from my nightly slumber...lol. anyways, glad to hear im not confusing. i tend to mix up my words sometimes.
oh ryt, i have never gotten any errors while flashing any ROMs but its good u got over it. anyhow, i do hope it is fast enough and stable enough for ur liking. as i said in my opinion of flashing many ROMs i found this the best, and hence the reason why i recommended it to u
do keep me posted on how ur finding it
EDIT: im sorry but i think i might have given you the wrong link for the PURE ROM. its actually Russel's Eclair I was on about. there arent many screenshots on it, but if you do read on you'll know that it is a very minimalistic ROM, which runs on WM6.1/6.5 without sense. and its been skinned like a stock ROM. the beta version i flashed in november was superb. you could give it a try as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776946

Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?

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Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?
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u see how he has skinned different variants? what i have tried was the glass version. its actually very smooth on my phone.
and yes, it might be a little complicated initially, but the more u mess around with your phone, the more you'll learn. as for dead shortcuts and non start ups, check through the thread to see if anybody has the same problems as you. if they do it might be a bug (and the cook might either be working on a fix, or there might already be one).
as i said earlier i havent tried dynamics as its a relatively new ROM. but touch X is considerably slower than energy in opinion, with very regular crashes. in my opinion, using everything from rotastrains to energy, this is by far the best ROM with Sense out there when i tested.
EDIT: if others have not reported the same problem as you, try a hard reset. if that doesnt solve it, ask the cook for advice by posting on the thread. you are sure to get a solution within 24 hours. im sure its just something simple to tweak around

I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...

Tych0n said:
I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...
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well there is no such thing as a perfect custom ROM. all ROMs are plagued with bugs. the reason i recommended Energy in the first place, was because it crashes the least. u wouldnt need to soft reset your phone very much. also it starts up fast, and has amazingly good battery life for what it offers.
im glad to hear u managed to resolve the dead shortcuts. to be frank they didnt really bother me, as on the whole the user experience was what that mattered. and since most functions are accessible via the touch flo interface, you hardly ever need to use the start panel (if the speed bothers you)

Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.

Tych0n said:
Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.
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thats good to hear, though i wouldnt entirely agree on you on the stability front. but its a subjective topic. anyway, enjoy the new ROM, and if u do need any help or advice there's a whole dedicated community here at ur disposal.
cheers

I tried to answer you four times, but each time I got the maintenance/overcapacity "Thank you for your understanding." -message when clicking Post and the forum ate my message.
For me Touch X often crashed when under strain (buffer overflow?) and not otherwise, but Energy crashes at random (when not in use, when opening the virtual keyboard) while not having the same issues Touch X has. So they're equally stabile, just in different ways.
EDIT: Just after posting this, the phone froze when it was charging and the screen was off... -.-

Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!

Tych0n said:
Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!
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its quite odd that you have so many crash issues with Energy's ROM. I never had any of those issues u mentioned. Perhaps cuz mine is an older, more stable build. anyways, there is an older ROM by Rotastrain. its called blaze & devilution. brilliant eye candy. however the developer no longer develops for the device anymore, so dont expect any updates or bug fixes. give it a try. its not as fast as Energy's but i do hope it will sort out the crashing issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565055&highlight=blaze

I'm really fond of my current Energy ROM, but it keeps me on my toes all the time because I'm neurotically checking my phone every 15 minutes in case it has another SOD and I don't want to miss any calls because of that. Also, I'm now using another alarm clock besides the phone, because Energy has already SOD'd on me twice during the morning hours before the alarm and I don't want to be late for work.
So, I'll try every single Energy version, variation (well, all the good-looking ones... ) and build until I find one that doesn't have all the SODs and freezes. If all of them have, it's Dynamics 2.0 or Blaze or another ROM up next.