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How do you deal with the Kaiser speed today ?

Hello,
I now own my Kaiser for about one year (or a little less). But I'm still not satisfied about the overall speed of the device. I'm not talking about reading videos or playing games, just about "normal" use of the Kaiser.
For exemple, opening the HTC phone application (dial pad) takes around 3 seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !
Another exemple is going to landscape mode which takes 4 seconds ! And when it is in landscape, my Kaiser is like freezed for about 2 other seconds before I can use it.
A 3rd exemple, when answering calls: my Kaiser rings, I press the green button to answer, but it takes around 2-3 seconds before it does really answer. In the mean time, I sometimes loose my call, and this is really frustrating again !
I know I'm only talking about seconds, but I use my Kaiser a lot in a day, and these seconds become minutes ! And when I need to use my Kaiser quickly, these seconds appear much longer than they really are.
My ROM is the original HTC 6.1 ROM. My Kaiser is as light as possible (no Manilla 2D !), but it does not seem to be enough for my Kaiser to be fast.
I tried some cooked ROMS, but from what I experienced the HTC 6.1 is the faster. I also tweaked my Kaiser with all the informations I could find on this great forum (and KaiserTweak)
I would really enjoy an overclocker utility but it does not exist.
So, about you, are you satisfied with your Kaiser speed ?
Isn't there days where you would throw it against a wall because of these anoying lags ?
Thanks !

If this damn thing eats another microSD card I AM going to throw it against the wall. I'm getting tired of loosing my crap and having to re-do everything.

what about the speed of your ka
iser : is it ok for you ?

No complaints about the "speedyness" of the tilt after flashing to a good ROM. If another one fails I'm sending it back and demanding an upgrade to a Fuze tho.

i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?

Dear,
Same problems as yours... Using same rom from HTC !
Very slow phone for each task i need
Boring phone when hang-up or dialing, boring when using tt6 and now tt7 (too slow when driving in little streets, and sometimes truncating voices messages), and more generally, very very slow (and i do not speak about camera).
Sure, this version is really a big bug
Comparing to other kind of phones, even cheaper models runs better (camera better and faster, gps fix faster, gps available even in flight mode.
Usually, when opening keyboard, applications hangs due to the screen rotation, and become available a long time after
Definitively, a real diseapointing device.
I'm now waiting for the renewal of my phone contract to change for something better (sure that is not difficult to find)
Regards,
Laurent

I highly recommend flashing a custom rom.
The rom chef's have done a fantastic job tweaking them to run much faster than the stock roms. Try on and you'll never look back.
I'm currently using the Nov 15'th Hyperdragon Rom and I have virtually no complaints about the speed of the rom for day to day activities. M2D runs very smoothly and is much more friendly to your fingers than any of the stock roms I've used.

aagil001 said:
i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
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Thanks a lot ! i did the hard reset followed by the soft reset , then I restored my data : now my Kaiser goes faster ! thanks again !

I have the same issue, not that the kaiser is really slow, but when I compare it with a Wizard (both have custom roms) the Wizard does things a lot faster, like opening start menu, scrolling isn't laggy, change tabs is fast. No matter what rom I use on my kaiser, I can't get to the use speed of the Wizard. Maybe it is because I install programs on the SD instead of the phone itself?

Nothing to Compare to
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will

wasilvers said:
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
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Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.

I noticed a marked improvement since I use some of the SKTools utilities like:
- Optimize! http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
- FreeUP RAM Service http://s-k-tools.com/?m_freeuprams.html
- Registry optimization http://s-k-tools.com/?/sktools/m_regopt.html
It has many other features and you can download a trial. It's really worth a try.

dear all,
how can you say that the kaiser isnot slow ?
I use PIE to read this forum, this thread takes 30 to 40 sec to load for 470 kB, while it takes few seconds to dowload bigger files !
I only use pie,tt7 and outlook sync for contacts and appointments.
I also tested 3 roms and tried to tweak some settings, without getting a normal speed.
kaiser is definitively a slow computer with a phone.
basic phones are more responsives than kaiser on many bundled applications.
I do think that kaiser has a lake of something... Maybe some drivers are missing, because if you look at the internal chipset used inside the kaiser, it should very very more powerfull

Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
Please enlighten me, because I hate this. I have to push the button multiples times to disconnect. I have SK Tools as well. It has many good features, unfortunately some of the things it recommends tweaking I have idea what those things are for. I need the cheat sheet for invalid registry entries and values.

I do experience what you describe and I've tried many different ROMs, right now I'm using Garmin.Dk 8 without Manila2d and all the "speed fixes" available.
It's just like that, it has Windows...
But on the other hand, I like that, because it makes it very customizable.
Depends on what you value most.

dizzy33 said:
Hello,
seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !Thanks !
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I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.

moosic said:
I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?

dear Spaul,
Windows is not the problem... Other htc phones have Windows and are fast. i.e. TYTN I is faster !
Problem is software, maybe drivers or hardware layer

denco7 said:
And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
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He has to keep up because he realizes the other 99% of the WM functionality is missing on his new phone and he'll want to come back.

Same thing here
Yeah I experience exactly the same things with mine. I'm not going out the custom ROM path, since it's a company phone. After having tried all sorts of things, I've kind of just accepted its slowness.
But one thing is for sure. After using first the s710, and the the tytn-ii, I'm 95% sure that my next phone is not going to be a HTC, unless I see some very convincing real life demo of the device.

Just My Opinion Regarding Kaiser

I have a HTC TynTynII or whatever it's called.
I was forced to buy one to keep "updated", with EDGE data capacity, but never wanted to buy a small screen device (this was before the HTC Touch HD was introduced), as I had been using my XDAII 's and forced to use my backups, XDAIIs's...
Now, as the XDAIIs's had pissed me off with various problems and lack of proper speakerphone, these are the deficiencies I find of Kaiser:
1. Speakerphone *totally* unusable (the XDAIIs was bad, but this is *hopeless*)
2. Cannot forward SMS's using EM (WM6.0 or 6.1 limitation).
3. Of course, HTC wouldn't let me upgrade to the latest 6.1 at the time I had bought the device, using my serial number of the unit purchased in Singapore. (Of course, we can use the cooked ROM's, but why??)
4. Touch sensitivity totally sucks with a screen protector, even though I have used these with my XDAII and XDAIIs units. When pressing hard sometimes, it elicits *no* reactions whatsoever, then opens up something else...
5. OS is totally "whacked-out" as compared to WM2003 - I have no idea why they have gone insane with these previously only used menus for the smartphones! One requires more menu/key-presses to execute mail retrieval, etc., as compared to WM2003!
6. Cannot use fingertips for typing entries, nor to close apps. (screen size issue)
7. Processor seems to be a power-saving one, that delays action, as compared to the one in the XDAII, which kicks a**, as compared to the XDAIIs or Kaiser.
8. No blinking SMS light (even though this was selected in the options) when receiving SMS - also no vibration noted.
9. OS is more buggy than WM2003 - sometimes completely stopping the phone, requiring the reboot of the device.
10. To be continued...
I'll update the list with more of my findings above, but welcome feedback....

Sounds awful. You should just send it to me. I'll give it a good home.

1. Speakerphone *totally* unusable (the XDAIIs was bad, but this is *hopeless*)
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I find it works out just fine.
2. Cannot forward SMS's using EM (WM6.0 or 6.1 limitation).
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On WM 6.1 you can forward SMS. I use SMS-chat and it forwards just fine. I don't know what EM is, soo I can't help you there.
3. Of course, HTC wouldn't let me upgrade to the latest 6.1 at the time I had bought the device, using my serial number of the unit purchased in Singapore. (Of course, we can use the cooked ROM's, but why??)
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There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
4. Touch sensitivity totally sucks with a screen protector, even though I have used these with my XDAII and XDAIIs units. When pressing hard sometimes, it elicits *no* reactions whatsoever, then opens up something else...
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You have to recalibrate the screen to touch sensitivity after you put the screen protector on. Settings>System>Screen> Align Screen
5. OS is totally "whacked-out" as compared to WM2003 - I have no idea why they have gone insane with these previously only used menus for the smartphones! One requires more menu/key-presses to execute mail retrieval, etc., as compared to WM2003!
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Get a better program thats why WM is made to be customizable!
6. Cannot use fingertips for typing entries, nor to close apps. (screen size issue)
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7. Processor seems to be a power-saving one, that delays action, as compared to the one in the XDAII, which kicks a**, as compared to the XDAIIs or Kaiser.
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Upgrade to 6.1 and you wont see the delay. WM6.0 was slow as dirt. I'm running on the stock rom and its fast!
8. No blinking SMS light (even though this was selected in the options) when receiving SMS - also no vibration noted.
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Go to settings>personal>sounds & notifications>notifications. Then under event: select Messaging: New Text Message. Then check the "flash light" option.
9. OS is more buggy than WM2003 - sometimes completely stopping the phone, requiring the reboot of the device.
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FLASH THE ROM!
10. To be continued...
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FLASH THE ROM!!

tdusen said:
Sounds awful. You should just send it to me. I'll give it a good home.
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I'll trade it for a *mint* XDAII & a *mint* XDAIIi!
himalayasplaya said:
On WM 6.1 you can forward SMS. I use SMS-chat and it forwards just fine. I don't know what EM is, soo I can't help you there.
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EM = e-mail...don't know if you guys on the board here use PM = Personal Message/Mail, but it's the logical (and should be the more often used) abbreviation.
himalayasplaya said:
There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
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Thanks - after I reviewed my post, I went to the HTC site, and found that they offered this - will flash after doing a backup...
himalayasplaya said:
You have to recalibrate the screen to touch sensitivity after you put the screen protector on. Settings>System>Screen> Align Screen
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I'm not sure I did this again on my last trip where I had to take this very quickly, but I just did it now - thanks!
himalayasplaya said:
Get a better program thats why WM is made to be customizable!
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Upgrade to 6.1 and you wont see the delay. WM6.0 was slow as dirt. I'm running on the stock rom and its fast!
Go to settings>personal>sounds & notifications>notifications. Then under event: select Messaging: New Text Message. Then check the "flash light" option.
FLASH THE ROM!
FLASH THE ROM!!
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Noted - will do and report - thanks a lot!

You'd think so but improved stability doesn't come in the official WM 6.1 upgrades.
himalayasplaya said:
There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
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You'd think that'd be the case but in my experience running numerous official Kaiser ROMs, the one I have now far surpasses any WM 6.1 official ROM for stability. No broken GPS problems, no screen flashes coming out of powersaving mode, no unwanted pauses out of the blue. Yes it's slightly slower eg in redrawing the screen from portrait to landscape and back again and during boot it takes longer, but it's far more stable! Flashing to the Official WM 6.1 ROM would be like jumping out of the frying pan, into the fire so the o/p needs to consider this!

Flying Kiwi said:
You'd think that'd be the case but in my experience running numerous official Kaiser ROMs, the one I have now far surpasses any WM 6.1 official ROM for stability. No broken GPS problems, no screen flashes coming out of powersaving mode, no unwanted pauses out of the blue. Yes it's slightly slower eg in redrawing the screen from portrait to landscape and back again and during boot it takes longer, but it's far more stable! Flashing to the Official WM 6.1 ROM would be like jumping out of the frying pan, into the fire so the o/p needs to consider this!
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Flying Kiwi, I gather you are running a 6.0 ROM?
Are you on FT, btw?

I want my XDAII (both of them) back...maybe I'll buy a used one - problem is that it doesn't support EDGE or higher data, but in India (where I spend most of my time) it makes no difference - they don't give you the speed anyway!
One gets faster GPRS data in Singapore (StarHub) than on any Indian GSM carrier with EDGE!

Yeah, HSDPA, Edge, GPRS, it all boils down to how much your ISP allocating the bandwidth from the base station to it's internet gwy. No point having HSDPA if the base station is linked to their gwy with 128kbps line.
However, most of your complain about Kaiser, I don't find it for me. Perhaps you get a 'lemon'? My touchscreen is great, even the finger close (the corner task manager) works better than my previous Sony Ericsson M600.

himalayasplaya said:
I find it works out just fine.
On WM 6.1 you can forward SMS. I use SMS-chat and it forwards just fine. I don't know what EM is, soo I can't help you there.
There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
You have to recalibrate the screen to touch sensitivity after you put the screen protector on. Settings>System>Screen> Align Screen
Get a better program thats why WM is made to be customizable!
Vito Technologies Zoomboard
Upgrade to 6.1 and you wont see the delay. WM6.0 was slow as dirt. I'm running on the stock rom and its fast!
Go to settings>personal>sounds & notifications>notifications. Then under event: select Messaging: New Text Message. Then check the "flash light" option.
FLASH THE ROM!
FLASH THE ROM!!
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Yeah, everything he said. I've been using mine for over a year and I don't really have any complaints at all. It's my best friend. SMS, EMAIL etc all work great and I can do EVERYTHING with my chubby sausage like fingers.

IMHO
I think you should learn to flash roms, I was not happy with my kaiser when I first got it but I started reading more and found how to flash roms and now I love it! find a more finger friendly rom and use it! Hope this helps if not send me the kaiser and I'll give him a good home!

I agree Rpearly1, I was so pissed at my tilt at first because the stock AT&T rom sucked ass. I removed the bloatware and it still sucked ass. I left it that way for about 6 months because I was too scared to brick my phone, but the whole flashing process is remarkably simple, I mean a complete novice who barely knows a computer could do it as long as they read around a bit and follow the directions. Now I'm a flashaholic.

superflyboy said:
Flying Kiwi, I gather you are running a 6.0 ROM?
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Yes, an original HTC one after reverting.
Are you on FT, btw?
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If FT = Full Time then yes my phone is usually on all day but I sometimes power it off during the working day and especially in the evening when I reboot it - not because of any problems, just that in my experience with computers, they often work best if rebooted from time to time.

anagarika said:
Yeah, HSDPA, Edge, GPRS, it all boils down to how much your ISP allocating the bandwidth from the base station to it's internet gwy. No point having HSDPA if the base station is linked to their gwy with 128kbps line.
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yep - agree.
anagarika said:
However, most of your complain about Kaiser, I don't find it for me. Perhaps you get a 'lemon'? My touchscreen is great, even the finger close (the corner task manager) works better than my previous Sony Ericsson M600.
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ChumleyEX said:
Yeah, everything he said. I've been using mine for over a year and I don't really have any complaints at all. It's my best friend. SMS, EMAIL etc all work great and I can do EVERYTHING with my chubby sausage like fingers.
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Are you guys using a screen protector?
Flying Kiwi said:
Yes, an original HTC one after reverting.
If FT = Full Time then yes my phone is usually on all day but I sometimes power it off during the working day and especially in the evening when I reboot it - not because of any problems, just that in my experience with computers, they often work best if rebooted from time to time.
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FT=FlyerTalk, for FlyingKiwi!

No I'm not using a screen protector, but that isn't part of the phone and it's not something you can consider a problem with the phone. IMO

ChumleyEX said:
No I'm not using a screen protector, but that isn't part of the phone and it's not something you can consider a problem with the phone. IMO
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Maybe not - sometimes I have to press really hard...could be the delay of the OS not reacting then...

OS Lag - Other Options?

Hi,
I wanted to know if there is any way to run a different OS on this phone that supports all of the hardware.
I love the specs of this phone - and the form factor, however, it doesn't matter which ROM I use, the phone is just so unbearably slow. Even with the light ROMs.
I simply hate Windows Mobile. The processor is not that slow - it should be able to do plenty - but everything takes 3 seconds at least to open. I've missed an inordinate number of phone calls just because the stupid send button takes 10 seconds to respond.
Is there any option at all to forgo a WM ROM and use a different OS entirely?
How can I take advantage of the amazing hardware - but not be dragged down by the software?
HELP!

Moved as not ROM Development.
Try flashing stock then ROM, changing Hard-SPL.. etc.
Never had problem with slow OS unless the ROM is an issue to which is very uncommon..

If it really takes 10 seconds to get the phone to answer a call...
One thing to check is memory -- Do you have a lot of stuff in your calls list or MMS texts? Clear them out.
Which ROMS have you tried? Any 6.1 or 6.5s?
There is no other usable OS now -- Android is getting close but it won't work with all the phone's components

OS Lag
stylez said:
Moved as not ROM Development.
Try flashing stock then ROM, changing Hard-SPL.. etc.
Never had problem with slow OS unless the ROM is an issue to which is very uncommon..
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The last ROM I flashed that's exactly what I did - I flashed to a stack ROM - changed the Hard SPL.
The ROM I love - Shifu did a phenomenal job - but after a while - everything just begins to lag...and it's not just this ROM - it's every ROM. After a few weeks - everything just starts to miss a beat and then slowly unravel.
I'm surprised that you've never had any problems with the OS - the consensus is that WM is a generally slow OS - I just thought maybe there's a way to take advantage of the great hardware in the phone without having to use this OS.
Thanks for the advice though.
If you have any other suggestions - they would be much appreciated.

burtcom said:
If it really takes 10 seconds to get the phone to answer a call...
One thing to check is memory -- Do you have a lot of stuff in your calls list or MMS texts? Clear them out.
Which ROMS have you tried? Any 6.1 or 6.5s?
There is no other usable OS now -- Android is getting close but it won't work with all the phone's components
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Maybe not 10 seconds - but I have missed plenty of calls because the phone was completely unresponsive.
I do have a LOT of SMS' - maybe that's it. I just flashed to a new ROM (jjblaster3's 6.5) - it's great for now. I hope it stays that way. But they all start off great...you start installing a few programs and then nothing moves.
Thanks for the SMS/call history advice - I'll start clearing out now.
Anything else you can think of would be great.

I went through similar problems. Currently I am using the ROM "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261". This was the best ROM that I tested for my Kaiser.
I was not very fan of windows mobile too, because that i installed android at sdcard and recently found a very good application "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792" to streamline the boot process for the android, without having to wait for the windows mobile start and then boot the android. Android is fantastic, but as has already been said not everything works. The GPS and camera are the major problems yet.

Thanks
bernabap said:
I went through similar problems. Currently I am using the ROM "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428261". This was the best ROM that I tested for my Kaiser.
I was not very fan of windows mobile too, because that i installed android at sdcard and recently found a very good application "forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792" to streamline the boot process for the android, without having to wait for the windows mobile start and then boot the android. Android is fantastic, but as has already been said not everything works. The GPS and camera are the major problems yet.
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Thanks for the advice - I'm not going to head down the Android route yet...but I will check out the ROM you suggested. Have you tried any 6.5 ROMs you liked? I'm running jjblaster3 6.5 v2 right now.

Well personally, I like the STAXXX STYLE ROMs...they are 6.5.3...and VERY fast in my opinion.

ROM Suggestions
Thanks for the suggestion, any ROM recommendations would be much appreciated, here is what I'm looking for:
1) A fast ROM
2) No bugs with common things like text messages, bluetooth, WiFi, Internet
3) Good battery life
4) And if possible - 6.5 - but not mandatory
I know a LOT of hard work goes into cooking the ROMs, so I'm not complaining - but I've found that there are always small bugs that are real deal breakers for me.
I've tried:
1) AthineOS Manila Edition
Text issues, backlight issues
2) Shifu (3.2)
Text issues, screen rotation issues, wifi issues, phone got stuck a lot towards the end (had to soft reset twice a day at times)
3) Jjblaster3 v2
Battery life (very poor - need to charge twice a day) - because there is no easy way to switch between 3G and GPRS (any quick fix for this?)

shar1r said:
Thanks for the suggestion, any ROM recommendations would be much appreciated, here is what I'm looking for:
1) A fast ROM
2) No bugs with common things like text messages, bluetooth, WiFi, Internet
3) Good battery life
4) And if possible - 6.5 - but not mandatory
I know a LOT of hard work goes into cooking the ROMs, so I'm not complaining - but I've found that there are always small bugs that are real deal breakers for me.
I've tried:
1) AthineOS Manila Edition
Text issues, backlight issues
2) Shifu (3.2)
Text issues, screen rotation issues, wifi issues, phone got stuck a lot towards the end (had to soft reset twice a day at times)
3) Jjblaster3 v2
Battery life (very poor - need to charge twice a day) - because there is no easy way to switch between 3G and GPRS (any quick fix for this?)
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This baby is fast as hell! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 try it

Any known bugs?
gmaniac2008 said:
This baby is fast as hell! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 try it
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I have actually already downloaded that one - so as soon as my battery is more than 50% - I'll flash.
Thanks!
Do you know of anything to look out for bug-wise?

shar1r said:
I have actually already downloaded that one - so as soon as my battery is more than 50% - I'll flash.
Thanks!
Do you know of anything to look out for bug-wise?
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No bugs reported so far

[Q] Looking for a good 6.5.x ROM (manila, stable, fast)

First of all, my google-fu is very weak. Furthermore, the forum search engine apparently hates me, so please don't say anything about research or searching. I've tried and failed spectacularly. Also, I'm something of a newbie, so please be merciful. Thank you.
My old ROM is starting to act up, so I'm looking for a fast and stable Windows Mobile 6.5.x ROM with TouchFlo3D. Other things I can't live without are the long-press End and Call keys and the long-press Power key drop-down menu (like in the Touch X ROMs by smaberg), but if those can be installed afterwards without messing the ROM up, they're not required in the ROM itself.
Also, I never use the Xperia Panels (always delete all the Panel stuff and re-bind the X-Panel key to Nitrogen ), so not having the Panel Manager would be a plus.
I have previously used mainly the Touch X ROMs (I'm a huge fan), but they're not available in 6.5, so I'm willing to experiment with some 6.5 in order to (hopefully) find a new favorite. My current ROM is the Touch X 10.9.1 Nuts, that's the kind of speed and reliability I'm used to.
What I mainly use my Xperia for:
Calling and texting, naturally (VITO SMS-Chat)
Getting up in the morning (ageye G-Alarm)
Music (Nitrogen)
Internet (Opera Mobile 10)
GPS (Google Maps)
Notes (OneNote Mobile)
Movies (Media Player)
I'm going to install all of those by myself, so don't worry about them.
Thanks in advance for any help, guys!

Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.

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Dynamics 2.0 should satisfy your needs. It's the most stable rom on this forum, at least in my testing.
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totally agree, so far Dynamics 2.0 is the best choice.

Dynamics 2.0 seems to have TF3D all right and I can do the long-press keys by myself. I'll surely try Dynamics out.
EDIT: Found the drop-down menu thingy, it's smaberg's Actionscreen.

try one of energy's roms. they are very fast and stable, with a host of customizations.

Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?

Tych0n said:
Whoa, the Energy ROMs seem real nice, thanks for pointing them out! They might take a bit of getting used to, but in the end I think they might be worth it.
Also, while Dynamics 2.0 is probably the stablest of the two (having less modification done and all), which one is the faster one? Anyone have any experience or insight?
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frankly speaking Dynamics seems like a rather new ROM (post Jan 2011) and since i 'decommissioned my X1 in Dec as a secondary phone to my Milestone 2, i havent gotten around trying it. however, from my experience of using many other ROMs, i personally found energy's ROMs to be really FAST and STABLE. it shouldnt take much getting used to as its based on the HTC HD2 (with the latest HTC sense).
if you are looking for raw speed, then go for the most basic version with the least applications. i think it should be labeled as sense 2018. however if you wanna save yourself the time from installing programs from nitrogen to opera, go for his sense 2019. and since he has skinned many variants, you can choose the design you like best.
hope it helps. if u really do want, i can try find some time over the weekend to flash the Dynamics ROM and let you know how it is. do let me know anyway.
cheers

BEFORE I FORGET
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886371
you can also check this out. ROMs which do not have TouchFlo or HTC Sense tend to be comparatively faster. though i havent personally tried pure, i heard some pretty good remarks on it.
my advice, if u can, try them both out. Pure and Energy, with and without Sense, and see which suits your personal needs the best.
hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
cheers

hope i am helping instead of confusing you. if you need any clarification, do ask.
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You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.

Tych0n said:
You're not a least bit confusing, I may be a bit green but not a total newbie.
EDIT: I'm flashing Energy as we speak. Ran into a bad case of Error 262, but got over it.
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so sorry for the late reply. just got up from my nightly slumber...lol. anyways, glad to hear im not confusing. i tend to mix up my words sometimes.
oh ryt, i have never gotten any errors while flashing any ROMs but its good u got over it. anyhow, i do hope it is fast enough and stable enough for ur liking. as i said in my opinion of flashing many ROMs i found this the best, and hence the reason why i recommended it to u
do keep me posted on how ur finding it
EDIT: im sorry but i think i might have given you the wrong link for the PURE ROM. its actually Russel's Eclair I was on about. there arent many screenshots on it, but if you do read on you'll know that it is a very minimalistic ROM, which runs on WM6.1/6.5 without sense. and its been skinned like a stock ROM. the beta version i flashed in november was superb. you could give it a try as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776946

Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?

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Well, I'm having slight problems with how complicated the Energy ROM UI is, as well as numerous dead shortcuts and programs failing to start. Also, HTC Sense 2.5 is noticeably slower than TouchFlo3D (which my previous ROM used), so everything doesn't glide as smooth. So I'm not a huge fan, at least not yet. If I can't get this to work like I want, I'll try flashing a different Energy ROM. If that doesn't work, Dynamics 2.0. If that doesn't work... I don't know... Touch X 10.10?
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u see how he has skinned different variants? what i have tried was the glass version. its actually very smooth on my phone.
and yes, it might be a little complicated initially, but the more u mess around with your phone, the more you'll learn. as for dead shortcuts and non start ups, check through the thread to see if anybody has the same problems as you. if they do it might be a bug (and the cook might either be working on a fix, or there might already be one).
as i said earlier i havent tried dynamics as its a relatively new ROM. but touch X is considerably slower than energy in opinion, with very regular crashes. in my opinion, using everything from rotastrains to energy, this is by far the best ROM with Sense out there when i tested.
EDIT: if others have not reported the same problem as you, try a hard reset. if that doesnt solve it, ask the cook for advice by posting on the thread. you are sure to get a solution within 24 hours. im sure its just something simple to tweak around

I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...

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I'm using the Dinik's Anastasia. Some things are infinitely faster than in Touch X, such as opening menus and starting/closing most programs, but others are a crawl, such as switching between the pages of the home screen and opening the start menu. So it's good, but not perfect. So Energy is about as good as Touch X was, although better looking, which the ease-of-use of the Touch X-series compensates for. Although to be honest I'm yet to fully get the hold on Energy, so it might be this grows to be my favorite ROM later on.
I resolved the dead shortcuts. They were actually links to HTC Sense tabs which I had disabled, so the shortcuts just pointed me to the Sense home screen. I'm probably going to hunt down and delete all those shortcuts, because the whole concept of them appears pretty stupid to me. Why have links in the start menu for things that are already displayed as tabs in the normal UI? It's infinitely slower to get to them via start menu...
Anyhow, I'll continue playing around with the ROM. I'm starting to like it...
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well there is no such thing as a perfect custom ROM. all ROMs are plagued with bugs. the reason i recommended Energy in the first place, was because it crashes the least. u wouldnt need to soft reset your phone very much. also it starts up fast, and has amazingly good battery life for what it offers.
im glad to hear u managed to resolve the dead shortcuts. to be frank they didnt really bother me, as on the whole the user experience was what that mattered. and since most functions are accessible via the touch flo interface, you hardly ever need to use the start panel (if the speed bothers you)

Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.

Tych0n said:
Well, I've now set it up almost just like I want, some minor tweaks left, but good enough for now. I'm starting to notice that it is, in fact, faster than Touch X almost in every regard. The stability is slightly worse, but it's not like Energy is prone to crashes. It's still slightly more stable than the ROM the phone came with!
I deleted the whole HTC folder from the start menu and all the useless shortcuts are now gone!
I've still got some games and rarely used programs to install, but they're not important, so I'll do them when I have some extra time.
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thats good to hear, though i wouldnt entirely agree on you on the stability front. but its a subjective topic. anyway, enjoy the new ROM, and if u do need any help or advice there's a whole dedicated community here at ur disposal.
cheers

I tried to answer you four times, but each time I got the maintenance/overcapacity "Thank you for your understanding." -message when clicking Post and the forum ate my message.
For me Touch X often crashed when under strain (buffer overflow?) and not otherwise, but Energy crashes at random (when not in use, when opening the virtual keyboard) while not having the same issues Touch X has. So they're equally stabile, just in different ways.
EDIT: Just after posting this, the phone froze when it was charging and the screen was off... -.-

Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!

Tych0n said:
Sorry for double-posting, but this is an update, so I hope it's okay.
I'ma whine a bit. While the Energy ROM initially looked awesome, I'm starting to get sick of all the SODs and freezes it has at least three times a day! Touch X froze or crashed on me that many times a week and never had a single SOD.
Tomorrow or the day after I'll try flashing other versions. If that doesn't work, I'll try Dynamics 2.0.
Also, keep suggesting ROMs!
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its quite odd that you have so many crash issues with Energy's ROM. I never had any of those issues u mentioned. Perhaps cuz mine is an older, more stable build. anyways, there is an older ROM by Rotastrain. its called blaze & devilution. brilliant eye candy. however the developer no longer develops for the device anymore, so dont expect any updates or bug fixes. give it a try. its not as fast as Energy's but i do hope it will sort out the crashing issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565055&highlight=blaze

I'm really fond of my current Energy ROM, but it keeps me on my toes all the time because I'm neurotically checking my phone every 15 minutes in case it has another SOD and I don't want to miss any calls because of that. Also, I'm now using another alarm clock besides the phone, because Energy has already SOD'd on me twice during the morning hours before the alarm and I don't want to be late for work.
So, I'll try every single Energy version, variation (well, all the good-looking ones... ) and build until I find one that doesn't have all the SODs and freezes. If all of them have, it's Dynamics 2.0 or Blaze or another ROM up next.

[Q] Would you recomend flashing android?

Hi guys, as you can see from my sig I owned a few HTC in these years and I moved on from WM to Android about 2 years ago.
I'm writing this post as a request of suggestion from you as I don't have any experience with how Android behave on Tytn II and it's not for me but for my dad..!
He's been using his Tytn II for quite some time so far and I wanted to know if you would suggest me to flash for him Android on his device.
Please before answering considere that it's not for me, it's for a man of a certain age (around 60) that doesn't want any complication and doesn't have any time to dedicate to solve any issue that my come from the process.
So if this would bring him an increase of its device performance and usability I would definetely go for it, but don't want to hear him complaining all the time bout me having ruined his phone because of FC or random reboots or whatever ...
Is there any ROM free of issues and stable enough?!
I enjoy changing kernels, roms and radios of my devices, but you got what I meant before right? Once again: it's not for me..!
Thanks everybody in advance for your suggestions

First of all, before recommending anything.
I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
As far as if problems will arise, these things will happens (IE: FC, etc...) Depending on how he use it too. But it can be control to the minimum.
From my experience all ROMs are pretty much the same as far a being stable. It will depends on features and a few other things.

BeenAndroidized said:
I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
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Well..he use his Tytn II as he would have used any "old style phone". No app or whatsoever installed a part from a navigator (which I installed..) ....and once that something was not working properly he didn't anything for about 6 months till I discovered it, PIM backupped everything and made a hard reset to get it back to its functionality...so I'd say: yeah if he need to he will learn, but he won't search by himself any workaround..
And the main problem is that we don't live anymore together, I'm currently at them just till Feb and then I'll b back to Athens where I live...so I won't be here to help him out..!
That said, he's quite tech friendly, he's on his PC all day long and part of his job is to build different sites for various committents...
But from your words I can understand it need far more attentions than I think my dad would like to give to this thing..

Best way is to ask him.

my 2 cents
Well, as far as I can see,
my TyTn II with android is faster, more reliable and overall most usable.
The touch screen feels more like a capacitive touchscreen rather than a resistive one (wich is actually what the TyTN has).
Regarding the "age" of your father, I think it's not a problem.
mine has the same age of yours and he's arguing with Samsung Bada Os every day...so I showed him how "easy" is Android regarding Bada and he was amazed.
the counterpart is that, if he want to move to Android, you have to set up the whole thing in every little piece:
Android version, htc overclock, hiding "dangerous" icons from the drawer (such as the root app ) so he can't cause any "damage" by hitting something wrong.
I'm currently running under Froyo on mine, and it's pretty faster as I said BUT...
sometimes it FC (well, I'm like an addicted to customisations, so it's pretty normal... xD), it freezes for a while, Launcher Pro will FC (I personally hate ADW), my battery drains fast (but again, is because I put all kind of custom on it...IE: live wallpapers, custom lockscreen etc etc)
IMO if you go to a pretty simple version (such as 1.6 or alike) it won't have any kind of problems...
I give you a tip:
google for simosoft project...
he developped an Android "emulator"... install it on his device and see his reactions... from there you can do everything: phone calls, text messaging, emailing (because it basically uses the WinMo programs ) and it's not a flashing rom, it's just a installable .cab file.
try and see
I think this is the best thing you can do to avoid any kind of "stress"...
otherwise, for instance, you can make a huge backup, flash a rom, make him try
and then, if in few days/weeks he can't go on with Android (wich IMO is impossible) you can revert it back to the useless WinMo
let me know :-D

Thanks for all the advices..I'll think about it & I'll let you know
Sent from my brain with Beats Audio using my psychic powers

I'd suggest leaving him with a good stable WM ROM. There are still newer ones but I my favorite was an old one by shifu. You might look for a WM rom that has not a lot of extras, good stability, and updated versions of any "aftermarket" apps.
Or, give him a haret install. If he likes it but complains that it is too slow, you can get more speed by installing nand. But don't do that until you know he likes it.