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Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
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Is a lower lifetime characteristic of a WM6 ROM? Before flashing I used to be able to get ~two days life on WM2003, now I struggle to get 12 hours.
I do have the Soft GPRS tweak installed.
I've seen other posts relating to power off at around 30%, but this isn't a problem for me - I'm still getting life at 12%. It's just that I get to this low level so quickly, and have to charge each evening to have power in the morning. My battery is original, and otherwise the ROM (helmi_c's) is stable.
Any hints or comments?
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mine is significantly shorter than when i was in WM5. but not as bad as yours. try this. go back to WM5 and see if it still gives u 2days.. then go back to wm6. then if u still get 12hours max with the same usage as you have with wm5.. then it's the ROM.
if you get poor batt life even going back to wm5, then maybe it's the battery. consider borrowing a battery, or buying a new one..
Are you sure your battery can stand only 12 hours ? it's too short. Try to reduce thre brightnes to save the power of your battery.
Ta for the suggestions.
I already have my screen brightness adjusted, and auto power off as appropriate.
Battery is the original, but behaved with 2003. I have two Himalyas (bought the second off a colleague for £40 as nervous about playing with ROMs!) and so two original batteries; both behave the same. I also inherited an aftermarket battery which is truly awful - goes haywire after down to ~45%.
I did try WM5 for a while, and don't recall the battery problem. As I have two devices, switching one to WM5 and comparing is a good suggestion. Unfortunately I need one application (NotifyLink - see thread in the WM5 forum) that I've not been able to get working in WM5, and *does* work on WM6, so if I need to go back it's WM2003SE for me :-(
Before trying to flash back to an older rom, consider some other battery saving options.
Lowering your screen brightness was a good idea, which you have already done.
Some other things to consider:
Turn off "Receive All Incoming Beams" until you actual need to receive something via bluetooth/IR.
Turn off bluetooth if you are not using it (this used to be a massive drain on my himalaya)
After closing a program, go to the task manager and make sure it is actually closed. THe cross in the top right hand corner usually just shrinks things. You can buy/download applications I believe that will actually properly close a program. I've on occasion had 8 progrms running at the same time simutaneously before closing them.
Make sure the terminals on your battery and himalaya are clean (where the battery connects) and also test to make sure your battery is seated correctly.
Change the timeout for your device (IE how long it will wait before turning its backlight off, and then turning off in full). Mine is set to 1 minute. You can set it as low as 30 seconds but I didn't like this as I felt it would wear out the backlight.
If I think of more I'll come back and write them. Perhaps someone has already made a "Save battery power" post. If not, perhaps someone will make one and the mods can sticky it.
cheers
The battery is geting life expired. Better buy a new battery..
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
If I've besmirched either of the ROMs published on this forum then please except my apologies - I discovered that my battery problems are NOT due to the ROM. But nor are they due to my battery!
Re-Flashing (or hard reset with reboot options) gives me good/normal battery usage. I therefore figured that my problems _must_ be due to an installed application. It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink, which I unfortunately need to install in order to receive my corporate email. With this present I lose approx. 6% battery power every hour(!), even with GPRS disconnected and the application not checking with its server. Just installing (even before configuring) the application I get this immense battery drain. Weird. Removing my SIM card doesn't help. Neither does uninstalling; I need to hard reset before battery consumption returns to being acceptable.
As I need this application it looks like I need to accept the need to top-up every evening.
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
i recently replaced my battery for a new one. it was near 3 yrs old and it's battery life was steadily decreasing lately, shutting off just about 6 hours after a full charge! when i bought a new one it shuts of at 5% on the same rom and operating conditions, nice huh!?. so as a rule of hand slash of around 15-25% of battery life for every year of use. better yet save up for a new one while your on it .
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It didn't take me long to determine that this was due to NotifyLink,
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Good job. As you can see on notifylink's newsletter they're very specific on devices fit for the job, for example not just any Wing, but TMobile Wing...
http://www.notifycorp.com/intheloop/index.htm
(Medium term I know my company are moving away from this app, but will require DirectPush - anyone know if we can activate this in a Himalaya ROM?)
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As far as I know all you need for direct push is correct settings of exchange server and a device with WM5 or WM6 with built in MSFP or WM2003 with Global Contact Access installed. MSFP should probably be in your WM6 ROM unless your cook cut it out. In that case you can either try to find it in the ROM kitches of recent HTC devices and see what happens if you cook it into Hima ROM yourself. I don't know which file(s) you should use. Or you can download GCA and see if it works on your WM6 Hima.
Maggy - Many thanks for the response. Yes NotifyLink do recommend specific devices, but I've no idea if their battery consumption is any better. I do see from various postings here in my company that I'm not alone with problems - generally advice is to just check with the server less frequently, etc, which doesn't solve my issue. I'm going to have to live with this inefficiency for the moment.
As regards DP, I'll await with interest my company's progress in moving to this technology. Thanks for your information!
I have similar problem since WM6 Tofclock ROM is installed - getting just about 24hours battery life....Although the battery is quite old the Rom has definetly some incidence on this --- I have installed batti 2.1 following some threads i found here, hope it will help
Actually, I found out the same strange thing, while I was trying to solve another problem. I changed almost all of the OS/Radio Roms combinations, and with WM2003 the battery time when the phone is in stand-by is significally greater than with the WM2005 or 2006 Rom (days vs hours)... and this happens with every radio rom.
hey appreciate ur g8 works thanks
please help me.
when low battery msg is pop up, I used to restart the device,battery indicator shows battery life half
ROM still came with diamond
thanks
I have had the same issue. My battery can show 75%, then I do a soft reset and it will show 90%. It's all over the board. I'm fairly certain it's a conflicting app causing the problem because if I do a hard reset and don't install anything for 24 hours, the battery meter works fine.
Just can't seem to narrow down the culprit.
I recommend you to download this package "htc test.zip" to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2511016
as well as various useful tools such as the control of GPS
will find one for the battery that shows you all the properties and charge cycles as well as the real capacity of the battery
You also gotta read that: Your laptop is lying to you.
And also all the various web sites talking about that article.
Hey everyone. I recently purchased a 8925, and am experiencing the battery drain issue that some others have mentioned. I used to own a 8125 and its battery life was much longer (easily 3 days of my usage). I installed batterystatus on the tilt and it seems at idle with all apps closed its pulling 60-60 mA, where my 8125 used 10-15mA. Has anyone come up with a solution for this? I currently have 3.29 hardspl with the stock wm6.1 installed.. any help is much appreciated
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Hey everyone. I recently purchased a 8925, and am experiencing the battery drain issue that some others have mentioned. I used to own a 8125 and its battery life was much longer (easily 3 days of my usage). I installed batterystatus on the tilt and it seems at idle with all apps closed its pulling 60-60 mA, where my 8125 used 10-15mA. Has anyone come up with a solution for this? I currently have 3.29 hardspl with the stock wm6.1 installed.. any help is much appreciated
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turn the lcd brightness down, get kaiser tweak...set your mobile internet connection to go off after a period of a minute or two of non usage (thats a big one)
I have done these above listed, brightness down all the way, i disabled the internet connections with nodata, and i did a couple things with kaisertweak (sd power management). This seems to have no effect on the drain
Less is better when it comes to longer battery life....
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I have done these above listed, brightness down all the way, i disabled the internet connections with nodata, and i did a couple things with kaisertweak (sd power management). This seems to have no effect on the drain
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Maybe all the extra bits of software and utilities that have been installed are gobbling up those CPU cycles (and consequently the battery charge). I have a very basic setup on my TyTN II and reducing the screen brightness right down as well as changing to GSM (rather than 3 G) makes a huge difference in battery life. Even disabling HSDPA and resorting to just 3G makes a difference. It's time to simplify things I think and rather than installing apps to stop a data connection starting up for example, delete any data connection settings on the phone and simply don't do anything that may require a data connection.
How long are you getting out of a charge, doing what sorts of things how often? I'm sure if you hard reset back to the basic ROM and test again with just these few changes, you'll notice a big difference
If I simply flash the stock ATT rom on the phone, and install batterystatus to view my drainage, it is still at 47mA. It seems turning off all the data stuff saves maybe 10mA... i understand that a bad battery would drain faster but would that make the 47mA on standby? i thought that measured how much the phone was using? maybe the battery is bad. just yesterday i left at 7:30am with a full charge. I litterally sent maybe 4 text messeges and maybe a 3 minute phone call, the rest of the day it was on standby, and at 7:30pm it was down to about 34%! this is unacceptable!
Does anyone know what batterystatus reads? either the rate that the battery is losing power or the rate the phone is using it. is it possible that the battery is bad and would cause it to drain at a higher amperage? i know a bad battery drains faster but dont know about this.
I feel your problem. My tilt is so bad that it still drains while charged in the car. Maybe a bad battery but this is crazy.
ok I talked on the phone today more than usual (maybe an hour max!) and it shows that the battery drains super fast when making a call, which to me says the battery is just toast because a call uses more power. I was hoping to find a solution but i think I will just purchase a new battery.
how about buying a slim extended battery on ebay, the 1600mah one. You will definitely notice a difference
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If I simply flash the stock ATT rom on the phone, and install batterystatus to view my drainage, it is still at 47mA.
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Well from what I hear the ATT ROMs have lots more 'stuff' than the native HTC ROMs but whether that means more CPU cycles are used when those programs aren't started I doubt. It's really background utilities that'll be of concern. Rather than installing software (which itself will use battery charge) to see why your battery charge is going down so quickly, what's wrong with going about your normal usage without non-essential utilities and keeping an old fashioned log of how long a full charge lasts and what activities for how long you used your device for? If you try some of the suggestions already given and keep a careful log, you will notice a marked improvement - I did. Whether you wan't to keep those changes though is important. I found the screen was just to difficult to see at low brightness settings when out in the sunshine so I've set it back to a high level and carry 2 spare batteries with me when I'll likely be out and about using the device for a full day - I've yet to get through all three batteries in a day and they're compact enough to easily carry around. With my cradle that has a battery recharge bay, I can also recharge all my batteries overnight.
Sold phone, MODS PLEASE DELETE
Hello
I have new diamond 2 for three days. It's very good machine, but i've one serious problem with battery. I try to explain the strange behaviour of it:
1) Battery life is too short. I have read in this forum, that battery life is amazing. I dont have this opinion. My topaz's battery life is about 3/4 of a day (standard using)
2) battery behaviour 1 - sometimes i have battery % value another than after restart. For example i have now 50%. When i do soft reset i will have 35%. After second soft reset i will have 42%. Maybe i have problem with battery calibration or something like that. Or ROM is bad.
3) battery behaviour 2 - many times my battery freeze at specific % value (for examlple 40%). At first i though that is amazing battery life. Buuut no. After few hours still was there value 40%. So i tried soft reset and i saw only 16%. I really don't know what is this problem about.
I tried ariel battery bar, which is very simple program and i didn't have problems with it in the past (when i had kaiser). But here was the same problem. Value on Ariel battery bar freezed too. After softreset there was another value. Maybe i will try hard reset in the future....Now i am trying to format battery with process of fully charge and discharge. Maybe it helps.
Has someone the same problem like me?
Detail of my official ROM:
ROM ver: 1.39.479.1 (47382) WWE
ROM date: 04/07/09
Radio ver: 3.43.25.19
Protocol ver: 61.20t.25.10U
Many thanks for help
PS: i had hermes, 2x kaisers in my past, but this kind of problem i haven't had til now. hmmm
Can you list any applications you have installed or is it still original and out of the box with no applications apart from the standard ones?
How did you perform your initial charge ?
I always perform mine by doing a full charge - letting it drain and then back on charge
This happens for the first week - even if it goes flat in the car, I will not plug it in the car charger until I get home and can do a full charge!
Once the first week is done, I charge normally which at the moment has been every 2 days
Did you do something similar?
I have read on here someone else having issues which is potentially down to the battery so it might just be you have a duff battery
thank you for quick response
Apps:
G-alarm
Total Commander
Core Player
Dictionary
MyLight
Nothing special installed. I think at first i must do a hard reset because i must exactly know if this will be on fresh ROM.
First charge - as usually - it was the same like you.
Now i am charging and here is the same strange problem. I am charging now for 2 hour and battery is only on level 50%. So, now i am going to do soft-reset..............few second...................tadaaaa i have 100%. This is not normal. Here is something bad.
But thanks for you help.
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Can you list any applications you have installed or is it still original and out of the box with no applications apart from the standard ones?
How did you perform your initial charge ?
I always perform mine by doing a full charge - letting it drain and then back on charge
This happens for the first week - even if it goes flat in the car, I will not plug it in the car charger until I get home and can do a full charge!
Once the first week is done, I charge normally which at the moment has been every 2 days
Did you do something similar?
I have read on here someone else having issues which is potentially down to the battery so it might just be you have a duff battery
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I was going to suggest the hard reset route - this would determine if its software or not.
I will say that charging from empty takes a hell of a long time on the TD2! I'm thinking without even timing it, that it is taking around 4-5 hours to charge up ... and thats on mains!
Are you doing a soft-reset while it is plugged into the mains to charge?
Also is it doing this on usb charge (try another cable and NOT the one supplied for the charger)
Have you been using Opera. If so how have you been closing it. Did you go to menue exit or just hit the X? I ask because I found that hitting the X did not fully close it and when I went back to it it was still at the same page and not relaoding my home page.
Also did you set X to close the programs automatically or do you have to hold X to shut the program down?
It is also my 3rd day with the phone but have used internet a lot and the battery seems to be good. I also have been playing lots of games. I have done an initial Full charge and let it drain.... A full charge again let it drain... and last night it got a full charge.... My battery is Full at the moment. Today I have used it mildly for the web.... Like less than 15 min and have played games for about 10. A few calls and that's it. I can say it's doing better than my Elfin has.
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Have you been using Opera. If so how have you been closing it. Did you go to menue exit or just hit the X? I ask because I found that hitting the X did not fully close it and when I went back to it it was still at the same page and not relaoding my home page.
Also did you set X to close the programs automatically or do you have to hold X to shut the program down?
It is also my 3rd day with the phone but have used internet a lot and the battery seems to be good. I also have been playing lots of games. I have done an initial Full charge and let it drain.... A full charge again let it drain... and last night it got a full charge.... My battery is Full at the moment. Today I have used it mildly for the web.... Like less than 15 min and have played games for about 10. A few calls and that's it. I can say it's doing better than my Elfin has.
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Good point - Just for your reference, in the settings menu > advanced settings> System> Task Manager > Button tab
You can set the X to close rather than minimise - I have always set this to be the case so that when I close a program, it does close!
i tried 3 different chargers. Nothing.
Now i am doing hard-reset. Soon i will report.
report-after hardreseting my topaz seems to be fine. Before hardresseting i fully charged my battery. now i am testing it...
hmmm. really interesting. after few hours of testing everything was ok. So i decided to test it with battery applications (ariel battery bar and another tools wich shows battery bar in %.) And here started ainigain the same problems. Can someone test ariel battery bar and test some soft reset? Please watch what happend after restarts with battery %. I tried 10x restart
and everytime was there another value of battery. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower values.....really annoying
Now i have uninstalled all battery tools and i am going to test again if everything is goog...
alkapone please inform us about the results because i kinda have the same problem here, and i am using batti.
i have a lot of applications installed (nothing to do with the battery meter), but i have GPRS not 3G signal, i am closing the programs normally, and i am exiting opera, and so on. i am using it a lot but i think it goes out kinda fast. i almost get 1 day by using it.
can anyone suggest a battery meter that actually works fine? i like batti
Same problems here! Looking at the battery-information tab: After 4 hours of use after full charged the battery is empty..
I have been using dciBattery and qwertyMemory and all seems to be ok.
I have copied the files to the storage card then run the files and set a shortcut in the windows startup folder.
Here is a link to the files
http://freewareppc.com/utilities/qwertymemoryanddcibattery.shtml
this program doesn't have any config ? i don't want to have the memory bar and i don't want to have that gradient thing.
i think i solve the problem - not sure for 100%
hello to all
i think i solved the trouble. when i have uninstalled every battery app, everything seems to be ok. and one statistic - i had today at 12:00(lunch) 20% of battery. after 8 hours standard using of the phone(few calls,sms,internet), my battery told me that it has 10%. i think it is veeeery gooood (8 hours=only 10% decrease of the battery).beautiful.
result - this case showed that some battery apps/tools causes problens with compatibility battery meter vs. these apps..,
list of apps which causes problems (my tests)
1) jimmyes greens battery fixes
2) ariel batrery bar
3) batti
this is not 100% solution. i am still testing.
please write your opinion.
i am going to try finix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3726516&postcount=5
i will report
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3726516&postcount=5
i will report
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I am using it since day one with my td1 and td2 and no problems so far...
Do you think nueDynamicClock and nueClock as well as TweakHD (with it's apparent powersaving options etc) could be culprits as well? I'm on 6 hours standby and 2 hours device usage and I've just hit 55% on my battery (trying out the app alkapone02 just linked to)
i have installed finix batt icon too. batti was battery crazy on this.
i will test tomorrow, i am fully charging it now and i am going to test how long it will last through the week
super. please test it and report here as usually. thanks
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i have installed finix batt icon too. batti was battery crazy on this.
i will test tomorrow, i am fully charging it now and i am going to test how long it will last through the week
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oki but question is if the battery performance is good?
have you tried td2 without it for few days if the performance is better or worse?
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I am using it since day one with my td1 and td2 and no problems so far...
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okay i'm using slide2unlock and tomtom7 black 7.9.....
before i start tomtom the gps status led isnt active.(doesnt show up orange)
while using tomtom it is active
after using tomtom7 it is still active even if tomtom is closed by taskmanager.
used rom is KaiserHTC_GER_1.56.407.3Reconstructed
radio is 1.27.15.32(1.71 isnt working with this rom!)
does the active led show up that gpsreciver is still runing after closing tomtom?(if it is how to shutdown gps module w/o restarting the device?)
TOMTOM ISNT INSTALLED BY CAB! it is COPIED TO SDCARD!
is there any way to disable gps with an programm?(htc gps tool?)
thanks!
You can try GPS Tools .. and if you have Advance Task Manager, you can kill the process / services ..
the reason your batt is draining so quickly could possibly be attributed to the overal battery life. you might need a new battery
poppinpengawen said:
the reason your batt is draining so quickly could possibly be attributed to the overal battery life. you might need a new battery
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how long is this batterylife in average? 1 year 2 years? 6months? are the batterys like mugen 3000mA bigger than std?/do they need new backcover?
The life of a Lithium-Polymer battery, at least in my experience, is a couple of years more or less, depending on how much I use it, charge it, etc. And assuming that your battery is shot, a quick search at amazon.com led me to stock batteries and extended ones.
However, to truly know if it's a battery hardware problem, you need to know whether this happened gradually; over days, weeks and months; or if this just spontaneously started one night.
If it gradually declined, it's could be your battery itself, but if it just happened one day, then I would guess that your GPS or cellular/data connection is active and in use all night, or some misbehaving program isn't letting your device sleep properly.
Dave
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
The life of a Lithium-Polymer battery, at least in my experience, is a couple of years more or less, depending on how much I use it, charge it, etc. And assuming that your battery is shot, a quick search at amazon.com led me to stock batteries and extended ones.
However, to truly know if it's a battery hardware problem, you need to know whether this happened gradually; over days, weeks and months; or if this just spontaneously started one night.
If it gradually declined, it's could be your battery itself, but if it just happened one day, then I would guess that your GPS or cellular/data connection is active and in use all night, or some misbehaving program isn't letting your device sleep properly.
Dave
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thanks for your help