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With new roms and gps placing demands on battery life, I opted to look for an alternative. Performance hacks can only work so much before your battery dies out when you have an 1100 or 1500Mah battery. I found this battery on ebay from a store and decided to go for it and here's my findings so far....
The model number I'm testing is HLI-P6800SL and will cost you USD48.55
Here's the link in case you wanna check it out:http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/
Ebay:http://search.ebay.ca/search/search...=m37&satitle=mugen+power+batteries&category0=
*FIRST IMPRESSIONS*
1) Battery is exactly same size as the OEM, had no problems with fitting. Initially thought its increased capacity it would be make it a tighter fit, wasn't the case, PERFECT FIT!!!
2) Turned on my PPC without any hitches or glitches
3) Free shipping, makes this even sweeter...
4) Juicing it up, will fill you in with a much more detailed comparative analysis, my girlfriend is a true test of battery power
5) After some extended use, battery is still cool, haven't experienced any over-heating some users claim
*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.
I followed the manufacturer's specifications about the initial 12 hour charge, also take into consideration that this test was conditioned, i.e. I dished out extra punishment, GPS ON for every trip, BT headset on for every call, backlight at 40% (which is pretty bright) and send/receive set at 5 minute intervals.
I consider myself a heavy-user during the day (less at night) with usage being split data and voice even. I receive approximately 40-60 emails a day (some with large attachments) and make out just about as many phone calls. So without much ado, here are my results...
Testing started 09:30 when I initially placed the battery 100% and ended 02:49 when it finally discharged 0% = 17hr 19m window. So in order to rate correctly and/or approximately I took the calculation values (credit hofo_mofo) of my 1500mah battery
Talk time (4.5 hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 4.5 hr
Current = 333 mA
Standby (230hr)
Current = Rating / Time
Current = 1500 mAh / 230 hr
Current = 6.5mA
Run time based on my daily usage 09:30/100% -22:23/ 0% = 13hr 13min window
VERSUS 1800Mah
Talk Time = Rating / Current
Time = 1800 mAh / 333 mA
Time = 5.4hrs
Standby = Rating / Current
Time = 1800mAh / 6.5mA
Time = 277hrs
Theoretical 5.4 - 4.5/ 4.5 = 26% more power
vs.
Actual 17.19 - 13.13/ 13.13 = 31% increased capacity
I will be back to update my findings after 5 charge cycles and will note any increased or decreased performance, but for now very promising. If you use an 1100mah or any other type of battery, do the math and the numbers will pretty much tell you if it's a worthy purchase or not. I am not in any way recommending you purchase this battery, just sharing my findings. So until then....
Disclaimer this is by NO means a scientific test and results may not be typical
How about a URL and a price?
Interested in your results...
Cruisind00d said:
Interested in your results...
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co-signing thisssssss.....................
Also very interested... My Mogul came with a 1500 battery so the 1650 is a waste of time... but 1800 may be worth it.
I have the seidio 3200mAh battery
Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.
Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.
were do u get the 3200mah battery n how much did it set u back
Seidio. I mentioned the NAME of the battery as in the name of the company. They MAKE the battery and sell it.
http://www.mugenpowerbatterijen.nl/pda_htc.html
3600
at the bottom.
Very nice review of this battery. Most of the time people just say, "it lasted a day and a half instead of half a day," as if that is any real indication of how the battery performed. You were very specific on how you use your phone and gave an analysis of your results.
They may not be entirely accurate ( due to the every day changes in your usage between the 1800 battery and original batt. ), but I still want to give you props for a decent review.
Suggestion:
Test the 1800 vs Orig using a stopwatch program and gsplayer like here:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/vbar...gen-extended-battery-for-the-ipaq-2200-series
That way you will get a more precise comparison.
But again, good review of the battery, you were above par on that one .
sanjsrik said:
Have had it for about a month now. The thing really does perform. I use my phone all day long and rarely go below 70% it's great.
Now, if only Seidio would make the rubberized case for the extended battery things would be better.
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how much depth/thickness does that battery add? will it still fit in the stock leather holster?
It added a lot of thickness to the phone exact number I'd check the Seidio site, and no, it won't fit the stock case any more
i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.
so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?
myenhdl said:
i bought a mugen extended (fat) battery for the htc tytn ii a few weeks ago and it's performance is a bit strange. while it does add plenty of power to the device, battery drains at normal rate until 14%. then it stays at 14% for a long time before it starts to go down.
so while the battery is useful, the device won't accurately display the remaining battery life. is this the case with this 1800mah mogul bat?
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Its actually quite accurate, it doesn't hang like my oem battery. I thought it was somewhat the same after the first time when it hung around 10% for more than an hour or so, then it dropped to 5%. I think when the power is that low, it drops in multiples of 5... just a thought.
Will confirm/disprove when my battery is low, come to think of it I've never seen my original battery at 8% either
origins81 said:
*PRELIMINARY RESULTS*
Having spent a full 36 hrs with the battery...the results are encouraging to say the least. Do keep in mind that for Li-on cells to be fully functional, they need to go thru at least 3-5 full discharge-charge cycles and this is only the 1st cycle.
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That's not Li-Ion that's for the old Nickel_MH or cadium batteries
you should never completely discharge Li-ion battery as that will damage them a bit. In fact there's people arguing you should keep your Li-ion battery as high a charge as often as possible.
Defective battery? Mogul LED blinking Red with Mugen 1800mAh
I ordered the Mugen HLI-6800SL 1800mAh standard-sized battery from www.lionbattery.com last week and got it this past Saturday. I put it in my Mogul and proceeded to charge it as per the directions (i.e. in the phone, not on a cradle, with the OEM AC adaptor). After 12 hours, I tried powering up the phone but nothing happens. Furthermore, once I tried plugging in the AC adapter into the Mogul with the battery installed, I get a blinking red LED light.
I emailed lionbattery.com about a replacement. Is this anything I can fix?
Thanks!
symptoms of a discharged battery or a battery about to discharge (end of life cycle). Best action plan at this point is to return it, here's hoping you kept the original receipt, keep me posted how it goes...
So far haven't had any problems, still outperforming my original battery. Will be back to finish my review of the battery in the next 2-3 days
What I'd like to know is who makes hard cases for these? I have a mogul and no one makes a hard case for the sliding keyboard to be functional as well. What i mean is for an extended battery for the mogul and a hard case like the seidio one (thanks seidio for dropping the ball completely on this one).
I bought that 1800MaH battery today. Also bought this: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Black-Alumi...15036QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
I had a case like that for my Axim, it was awesome. I really dont care that you cant use the touchscreen or keyboard without opening it, I need something rugged and with a high enough ridge buttons dont get pressed. Poor phone rides around in the center console of a Jeep all day long.
I'll post pictures and a little review once I get the items. I also have a good 2400 Mah battery and door I recently got, if anyone wants it I'll ship it in the US for $20. It's 4mm too thick, comes with back door.
Still impressed? The battery is currently out of stock at LionBattery.com
Guys, I have heard a *rumor* that there will be a bigger capacity battery for Diamond, is this something *true*?
And I am wondering if the bettery life will be shortened by always connecting it to the PC. I actually connect my Diamond with notebook for most of the time I am in the office. Dont know if this will do harm to the battery.
Any comments are welcomed!
There is a bigger battery available as an extra I think - that's probably what you've heard about. It requires a different back part for the phone though.
The Touch Diamond will charge off any computer it is connected to, so that will be good for its battery and bad for the computers battery if you're running off that.
I believe (so I've heard) that the extended battery will be a 1350 mAh one sold with a new back to take it.
Seems confirmed by the HTC Europe Accessories site itself.....
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=168379
Yes there will be an optional larger cap battery. Don't know what size though. It does require a larger back cover (think you will get it with the battery).
If it is a 1350 then there's a possibility that it's the touch Pro's standard battery. But that's just speculation.
hello everyone,
i am planning to buy a new battery for my O2 XDA II but i was just wondering whether it will make any difference in the total running time? my device currently runs for two days with normal usage.
and on average how much does a new battery cost? it is $15.9(australian) on ebay.
thanks for replies in advance
im am using this battery for my XDA, it is larger, and with bigger capacity, note that the origina battery has 1200 mAh capacity, this has 3600 mAh. it really extended the usag time of the XDA, altough it is now BIG to look at.
http://cgi.ebay.ph/3600mAh-Battery-for-O2-XDA-II-IIi_W0QQitemZ200277754970QQihZ010QQcategoryZ38329QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
two days with old battery and normal use is not bad at all.
There are several sellers of 1800, 2400 and 3600 mAh batteries. Because of bad experience with "original Minolta" batteries on Ebay I'd prefer buying from shops that have a reputation to loose.
Ebay feedback is unreliable. Buyers can only give feedback based on if they received the goods and if the goods look like the description. Plus giving negative feedback almost in every case leads to getting negative feedback as well. The seller who sold me fake minolta batteries had 50,000+ feedback, 98% positive. The batteries looked genuine and performed well for over a month. One month later his negative feedback started to increase, he never answered my warranty claims, next month his account was gone.
Battery??
can anyone tell me approx. how long would a new battery last on a hima?
1200 mAh? 1400mAh? 3600mAh?
actually no, nobody can. It highly depends on your personal use, the software you use but most of all:
-the time per day your LCD/Backlight are on
-the brightness settings of your LCD
-how often do you turn it on/off per day
-is IR on or off or on for some time per day
-is bluetooth """""
-how often do you recharge and do you recharge till max capacity
-the quality of your charger
-Do you use it in combination with other hardware like headphone, thumb keyboard...
and so on. It might depend on the radio version that's never been fully studied in this forum AFAIK
but to compare mAh capacity is simple math. If 1200 mAh lasts 3 days, 3600 mAh should last 9 days in the same device with the same use.
Unreliable manufacturers exaggerate capacity.
hi, im a very heavy user, meaning my xda is almost always turned on for i am using unlimited texting feature of my phone, my average text per day is around 400 text messages and 30 minutes of calls per day. my battery (3600mAh) starts at 99% after 24 hours, it may have 25% left, good for another 4 hours use. Please take note that my phone rests for 8-9 hours as i sleep anyways, so continuous use of the 3600mAh batt may be 20 hours CONTINUOUSLY, my backlight is set to minimum and im using WM6.1 OS.
note that with my old 1200mAh batt and my heavy use, the old batt wont last 1 day.
also, im not an ebay seller, i just gave you that link as i had no problem with that seller.
sounds indeed like a good battery, so a good seller. I'm very proud that it takes me 4 hours to completely drain my old 1200 mAh. 5x as much from a new 3600 mah... I guess I'll have to order one...
please also take note that new batteries needs a couple of charge/drain/charge cycles before you will see the effect its large capacity. so give it 2 charge / drain cycles before you evaluate how good it is for you.
@paulpax
Liked the E-bay linked; I'm intersted. Too bad it's E-bay, if only I can communicate with the seller in some other way...
that seller has a phone number in his ebay store, i use that number to contact him when i make my orders, to date my orders have been, 1-3600mAh XDA2 battery, 1-700mAH Tanager Battery, and 1-Canon IXUS battery.
thanks.
paulpax said:
im am using this battery for my XDA, it is larger, and with bigger capacity, note that the origina battery has 1200 mAh capacity, this has 3600 mAh. it really extended the usag time of the XDA, altough it is now BIG to look at.
http://cgi.ebay.ph/3600mAh-Battery-for-O2-XDA-II-IIi_W0QQitemZ200277754970QQihZ010QQcategoryZ38329QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
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hmm... i think im going to drop by their store in Cityland to check out the merchandise first. Thanks for the tip bro.
Guys,
Can someone explain to me how the TD2 claims 50% more batter life then the TD???? The TD is 900 mah and the TD2 is 1100 mah... how is this 50% more or am I missing something?
I was thinking that maybe the TD2 uses a diff kind of battery but its the same Lith ion is it not?
Then I was thinking that maybe its the hardware but the TD2 has better specs then the TD so shouldnt it use more juice?
Then the TD2 screen size is bigger so shouldnt that also use more battery power?
So it excapes me how the TD2 has 50% more battery life??? I ask because I am considering to get the TD2 so I'm doing my due dilligance. My other choices are the HTC Touch HD and the Nokia N97.
thanks guys
HTC is a piece of sheet. Buy a Nokia
i cant tell why they say 50% better, but it is much better in battery life :-D
hummm..... thanks for the replies
although the battery capacity only went up slightly, htc said they decreased the battery usage, so a fully charged battery should last 50% longer. at least thats wut I've read..
They have made the device more power efficient, as I have said many times before on these forums, I DEFINITELY get at least 50% more life than I did on my TD1.
new battery for diamond 2
I use since one week this battery (1350mA)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG
and it works fine, round about 30% more power! same size as original one and not expensive.
Tom
adesonic said:
They have made the device more power efficient, as I have said many times before on these forums, I DEFINITELY get at least 50% more life than I did on my TD1.
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Same experience here. First WM phone I only charge every other day.
goofy584 said:
I use since one week this battery (1350mA)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG
and it works fine, round about 30% more power! same size as original one and not expensive.
Tom
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This battery not much larger mah... 30% more ... wow
between TD2 and Touch HD, I think I'm going to go for the TD2. Now the decision is between Nokia N97 and TD2....
humm.....
venom037 said:
Guys,
Can someone explain to me how the TD2 claims 50% more batter life then the TD???? The TD is 900 mah and the TD2 is 1100 mah... how is this 50% more or am I missing something?
I was thinking that maybe the TD2 uses a diff kind of battery but its the same Lith ion is it not?
Then I was thinking that maybe its the hardware but the TD2 has better specs then the TD so shouldnt it use more juice?
Then the TD2 screen size is bigger so shouldnt that also use more battery power?
So it excapes me how the TD2 has 50% more battery life??? I ask because I am considering to get the TD2 so I'm doing my due dilligance. My other choices are the HTC Touch HD and the Nokia N97.
thanks guys
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Well, I was asking myself the same question.
After looking at the size of booth ...well, if TD2 is 1100mah ... then TD1 is 600Mah ..
I think that the 900mah of the battery of the td1 was not true.
Look at this pic, the TD2 battery is almost the double of the size of the TD1...
(remember that the TD2 is bigger than the TD1)
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/htc_td2_backopen_570px.png
or
http://attach1.mobile01.com/attach/200904/mobile01-47f90d167c66ac6e8cb292d8606d7254.jpg
sjauquet said:
Well, I was asking myself the same question.
After looking at the size of booth ...well, if TD2 is 1100mah ... then TD1 is 600Mah ..
I think that the 900mah of the battery of the td1 was not true.
Look at this pic, the TD2 battery is almost the double of the size of the TD1...
(remember that the TD2 is bigger than the TD1)
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/htc_td2_backopen_570px.png
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http://attach1.mobile01.com/attach/200904/mobile01-47f90d167c66ac6e8cb292d8606d7254.jpg
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tho the size is bigger its still not double i think.... hence it must be something to do with the ROM of the TD2 that is more energy efficient is all i can come up with... I doubt its the touch flow 3D as more was added to it and from that perspective, I would assume it uses more battery.. oh well....
Does anyone actually use the TD2 now who also had the TD as I think those people would know best.
thats true..
Rom does matter.
2 things that affect the battery life a lot
ROM version and Radio Version.
but according to my experience using newest HTC mobiles, i fells no worry.
upgrading to new official ROM and got so much improvements
you'll find newest official ROM release for TD2 at htc.com
Hello everyone,
I bought some time ago an Andida 1900 mAh battery but I'm pretty sure the mAh declared is only nominal.
Now I need a good battery so that I can at least cover the day I spend at work (about 10 hours). I have to say that since my phone is the only access to the internet I can use in those situations I need to keep it always connected and this drains the battery, obviously. More over, I got Whatsapp (it should have push notifications, iirc), TweetDeck (updating every 6 hours, so it should be approximated to 0 energy draining), one GMail in push and one K9Mail in push as well.
With the Andida, I almost didn't use my phone and from 8:00 AM it's not at 75%. Pretty bad, in my opinion
So I wanted to ask you which battery would fit better the spot (I'd prefer the stock back case, otherwise docks I bought for my phone would be useless )
I found some that could go, but I'd need some advices from who already tested them:
Mugen 1700 mAh
eCell 2430 mAh
eCell 1800 mAh
Droidax 1600 mAh
So far I know Mugen Power are the best batteries (and saw the price, they must be the best ), but I wanted to be sure I could to a full work day with a charge (price is a minor issue, better to buy a good one once than 3-4 "less good"...)
Thanks in advance for helping me
Tiwiz
Problem is that "nobody knows". You'll always find always mixed reviews based on psychological changes or usage never being the same!
Unless someone tests the batteries with exact measuring instruments this topic will result useless
I know it is quite hard to give me a feedback (I couldn't say myself how much improvement brings the Andida battery) but I knew Mugen are good, just wanted to know if someone already tested it or not and if it's worth to buy it
Tiwiz
Why not get a charger/battery combo from ebay? Charge one while at work and swap when needed, then charge the other... Or get yourself a desktop stand with charger, I got the original LG desktop stand and it's pretty good actually (as far as desktop chargers go ofcourse!).
I have good Results with "POLARCELL". Used this Batteries in the last Phones as replacement of the Original one if they's gone bad.
(Polarcell 1600mAh)
I think that the oly solution is to have two batteries and use an external charger for the second battery.