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all inclusive with patch rom (wm5)

is it possible to make an already full patched(button fix,camera,bluetooth,etc) rom with all basic programs (such as mms client,stk,backlight,etc)?
i think yes but i'm not able to make it..it will be very usefull for newbies such me..
with this full rom you do not need to post lots of duplicated threads and all will works since the beginning..

yeah i would like that to,
so we only have to install it without patching and so

very good idea!!!!
but now, apart the Wiki, there is a list of all patchs that must be installed?!
'cause I don't have enough time to read alle the pages in WM5 problem resolutions thread

well,
so far, i created a project for a extended rom under wm2005.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_WM5_Extended_ROM
Butt im stuck, it will not install off the rom after a hard reset.
If this would be working we do not have to worry anymore if we forgot or lost our sd card for the neccesary patches.

i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
and a set of default programs:
pdf reader
xscaler
pocketplus
pocketrar
etc..

I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.

It has to work first.
So anybody already found a working autorun.exe and config.txt files?
I Tried alot of those two, but still not able to get it working under te extended rom after a hard reset.

efjay said:
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..

flagg said:
efjay said:
I would say no, i'd rather have the choice to install what patches i want. For instance if i dont use MMS or prefer the soft keys of WM5. The way it is now you can configure the device just as you want. Getting a working extended rom you can customise would be my choice. I definitely wouldnt want Pocketplus installed by default on my device.
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you don't have to use the all in one pack..
it's only the noob choise..and very easy to use..
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Yes i dont have to use it; but if the patches are no longer released separately then i have no choice. If there is a choice of all-in-one rom and non-patched that will be ok. But you have to think of who creates the rom, it may be easier just to maintain one rom version. I guess we have to wait and see..
@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/

efjay said:
@pimbo have you tried the autorun from the K-Jam extended rom? May be different from the Universal files. Its here ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/
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Not yet, preparing my device now, autorun is 17kb from this one
setup is 104kb, looks common, exept the dates are a bit older.
Manually launching the autorun of files on the extended rom will work, so i guess that i have to do a hardreset again, thats what i going to do later the evening. lol 8)

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No luck. wil not automaticly run.
Still need to make the rom visible and run the autorun.exe for the installs.
But this is the nearest solution for now i guess.
So you still need a single cabfile on a sd card to unhide your rom and install all files on there.
If anybody knows the bytes to change in the nbk or nbf files or maybe in the bootstrap, the adaption could be completed and the patches would automaticly install after a hardreset. .

please don't OT
...so
dev can make all in one rom and single patch

flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
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ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!

i for one would love an all encompassing rom patch. reading through all the duplicate posts and other resolutions is a real hassle for noobs. we see the same questions being asked every 3 days or so and it just creates more clutter for the other noobs to sift through. i figure a lot of those fixes should be included in the next patch of the current wm5 rom anyhow if people rather wait for that to come around.

Closer said:
flagg said:
i think yes
i can make a list but someone has to do that
i think tha the 'default' are:
camera fix
wm5_v3 fix
button fix
midi with album fix
missing system programs (mycpl.rar)
traylauncher
wifi programs
sim manager
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ok!!!!
From the Wiki...
camera fix [Camera2K5_v1.rar]
wm5_v3 fix [ba_wm5_fix_v3.rar]
button fix [Buttons_Fix_v2.rar]
midi with album fix [Album with midi.rar]
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traylauncher [http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/PowerToys/]
sim manager [ftp://xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel/wm5_test/AsukalSIMManger.cab]
missing system programs [mycpl.rar --> ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BA_WM5/Patches/Old Patches/mycpl.rar]
wifi programs [ftp://xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/Programs/WIFI/Retina digital security/RetinaWiFiPoc.exe]
right?!
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nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
we are all noob..we are all waiting for you :lol:
if ppl want to install single patch one by one they can do that
but i think that for noobs this is such as an "official" rom
tested and approved from xda devs

please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz

buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
buzz
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did not work, did the autorun in a folder called 2577. cab files on the root.
did a hard reset, but would still not install.
The screen of the 3sec before install wont pop up
But after i made my extended rom visible, it automaticly runs after a soft reset.(the 3sec screen pops up )
(last problem?)
But i'm going to get some sleep now, maybe that will help a bit :shock:

flagg said:
nice job..so we have only to wait maimac or someone else..
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OK! now I'm ready to flash with Mamaich Patch 3 ..

buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.

mamaich said:
buzz_lightyear said:
please try to create folder named 2577 in your extrom and place autorun in that folder.
it should be executed automatically...
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This would not work. WM5 on BA lacks registry settings and driver for the extended_rom folder.
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ok, then put that folder on your SD card.
buzz

Access to cabs in Extended ROM?

I just upgraded to the beta T-Mobile 2.24 ROM. I upgraded from the custom 2.17 by xelencin. I avoided the tmo customizations from installing but have a couple of questions. Is there a way to extract the custom cabs from xelencin's ROM (i.e. the Tmo Network Customizations) that get installed in the Extended ROM or is this something I would have had to do prior to upgrading. If not, is there at least a place I can locate the Certification_Disable.cab separately?
I have a feeling that the answer is that I would have needed to somehow extract them from my MDA in the Extended ROM prior to the upgrade. If so, I am not opposed to going back to the 2.17 or even his new 2.21 ROM but can someone point me on how I can access the Extended ROM to get the cabs if I install his custom ROM?

gilbreen said:
I just upgraded to the beta T-Mobile 2.24 ROM. I upgraded from the custom 2.17 by xelencin. I avoided the tmo customizations from installing but have a couple of questions. Is there a way to extract the custom cabs from xelencin's ROM (i.e. the Tmo Network Customizations) that get installed in the Extended ROM or is this something I would have had to do prior to upgrading. If not, is there at least a place I can locate the Certification_Disable.cab separately?
I have a feeling that the answer is that I would have needed to somehow extract them from my MDA in the Extended ROM prior to the upgrade. If so, I am not opposed to going back to the 2.17 or even his new 2.21 ROM but can someone point me on how I can access the Extended ROM to get the cabs if I install his custom ROM?
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The quickest way for you to get at the cabs would be to install Total Commander (free file manager..search for it via Goooooogle) on your device. Then type "\Extended_Rom" in the path bar at the top. Don't do anything with the files you see there other than copy them to a folder somewhere else on your device. If you try to delete or otherwise modify them you will corrupt you extended ROM (not a big deal, but you'll have to soft reset to fix). Once the files are copied elsewhere you can have your way with 'em.

Something I've never understood is installing a ROM clean without the Ext_ROM cabs....from reading through the posts, it looks like the cabs can be installed later, but will those cabs go into program memory instead of the locked/hidden extended ROM? Wouldn't I be better off letting the Ext_ROM do its thing so I don't waste precious program memory?
Is there any way to uninstall a cab from teh Ext_ROM without a hard-reset? I know deleting files out of the Ext_ROM corrupts it, but these progs don't show up under "Remove Programs", so I'm thinking I'm stuck with them. Guess what I need to do is create my own Ext_ROM without the cabs I don't want?
I think I hit my question limit for one post, so I'll end it now...

jorge_culv said:
Something I've never understood is installing a ROM clean without the Ext_ROM cabs....from reading through the posts, it looks like the cabs can be installed later, but will those cabs go into program memory instead of the locked/hidden extended ROM? Wouldn't I be better off letting the Ext_ROM do its thing so I don't waste precious program memory?
Is there any way to uninstall a cab from teh Ext_ROM without a hard-reset? I know deleting files out of the Ext_ROM corrupts it, but these progs don't show up under "Remove Programs", so I'm thinking I'm stuck with them. Guess what I need to do is create my own Ext_ROM without the cabs I don't want?
I think I hit my question limit for one post, so I'll end it now...
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There's a bit of a misconception regarding extended ROM. Most of the cab files there only set registry and provisioning settings. Very few actually install anything to the device. Extended ROM is about 10 megs in size. Whether it's full or not has no impact on your useabable space.

Unlock Extended ROM
But what should I do when I need add new programs to extended rom. My Extended ROM is write protected

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Marko-z said:
But what should I do when I need add new programs to extended rom. My Extended ROM is write protected
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You should do a search on Wizard extended ROM unlocking. Here and over at buzzdev.

gilbreen said:
If not, is there at least a place I can locate the Certification_Disable.cab separately?
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I would also be very interested in this. I have a Wizard that has the T-Mobile 2.26 ExtROM, which, needless to say, does not have this file. I don't really want to reflash the ExtROM just for this file. Could someone post it or point me to a place that has it?
Thanks!

Marko-z said:
But what should I do when I need add new programs to extended rom. My Extended ROM is write protected
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best way to add files to the ext rom without corrupting your ext rom is this..
Make your own with the files you want, then flash that ext rom... To learn how to do this you better start reading the millions of threads on here

Found what I wanted...
Well, I seem to have solved my own problem. The Certification_Disable.cab file seems to be the same exact thing as Cert_SPCS.cab, which I found through Google. Even if the files are not exactly the same, Cert_SPCS.cab has the desired effect: it removes the prompting when installing unsigned applications.
Since I bet other people need this file too, I am attaching it here (remove the .zip). I am not positive about the origin of this file, but it sounds like it was included in the ExtROM of the Sprint PPC6700 (Apache).

how to build custom extended ROM?

I've been debating trying my hand at cooking up my own ROM sometime here soon since I've not been entirely happy with the precooked ones. You know what they say, if you want something done right you just gotta do it yourself. ;-)
Anyways, I was thinking that I would probably like to install more software than I can put in just the ROM itself. I know I can do this through the extended ROM but I don't have the first clue where to begin and there doesn't seem to be any sort of tutorials floating around on the subject (or, indeed, of cooking in general). So how DO you create an extended ROM and add programs through it?

Avatar28 said:
I've been debating trying my hand at cooking up my own ROM sometime here soon since I've not been entirely happy with the precooked ones. You know what they say, if you want something done right you just gotta do it yourself. ;-)
Anyways, I was thinking that I would probably like to install more software than I can put in just the ROM itself. I know I can do this through the extended ROM but I don't have the first clue where to begin and there doesn't seem to be any sort of tutorials floating around on the subject (or, indeed, of cooking in general). So how DO you create an extended ROM and add programs through it?
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There's a great kitchen that i got from the forum. I can't upload it right now, but hopefully someone has some bandwidth to get a link. Search for Wizard extended rom kitchen. I believe Faria put it together. Check out the .pdf it contains for instructions.
Basically, you'll use a tool called Winimage to "inject" files into a file called ext-rom-base.nb. In the image is a text file that tells the installer what to run.
Each file must be selected as "read only" after injecting, or it won't work.
Injecting is basically dragging and dropping cabs or exe's into the file, nothing fancy. Note that each file type is called differently, so watch out for that one.
Also - the cabs cannot require operator intervention - or the installer will hang. Make sure they run and tell you that they're done.
Then when you run nb2nbf_wizard, you can check Ext_rom, browse to the file ext-rom-base.nb, image name is Extension_ROM, and address is 9B000000.
You can create the nb.nbk to include just the extended rom, just the OS, just the Splash screens, or any combination you want.
A bit intimidating at first - but actually very easy. I never messed up my phone once working with the extended rom on the Wizard. I broke my Hermes twice already, and still can't figure it out

ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Extended_Roms/Extended_ROM_Kitchen/
Enjoy.
Post also moved to wizard upgrading.

hi guys,
I had problem when cooking ext rom. I got ''htc-wizard-ext-rom-maker-kit" by faria from ftp. I did exactly all the steps in faria pdf guide, but after hard reset it didn't work. I don't know why? Anyone help me pls.
My device:
IPL/ISL: 3.08
Radio: 2.19.11
ROM: TNT 3 Pro

DotFreds

Hey guys, I am using Dutty's WM 6.1 19209 rom
What my problem is, i want to change the task manager that comes with this rom to the newer version so i can get my video to start recording. I dont know how to uninstall it and replace it because there is an icon in the programs folder.
I read somewhere that all i need to do is replace it and it will work but idk how to replace them in that folder.

So, you don't know how to uninstall it because there is an icon in programs. Interesting. I often get confused about uninstalling things because it's installed. Hmmm.. How about, this probley won't work but it could.
Start
settings
system
remove programs.
If it's there then you need to uninstall via the uninstall.
If not just install the new app, if it's a newer version of the same app it should uninstall automatically.
If this isn't what you ment then I suggest you write your problem out a bit better.

yeah its not there
the newer version wont work when i copy it since the old one is still here.
can i just remove it from the registry?

um is this a cab file or something?

yeah, got it from his website

You should request this in the tread of rom, bigger chance one of the people who is using it or helping out on support there sees it. If not wait couple of days and perhaps bumping it. I say this because if everyone making a new tread like this its going to be impossible to read this forum in the end.
Good luck mate

So you can't copy the cab file to an MicroSD ? Thats amazing.

omfg wow
you would think iv tried that by now.

mode said:
omfg wow
you would think iv tried that by now.
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DURKA DUR I'm going off of what you said.
the newer version wont work when i copy it since the old one is still here.
can i just remove it from the registry?
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to me, the reads as you tried to copy it to the phone but it no workie.... I am shocked that the phone won't allow the file to be copied.
Copy and Install are 2 dif things.

I just want to know how to uninstall the one that came with the rom.
copying the new crap isnt the issue.

you cant uninstall it cause its cooked into the rom, use total commander and then you can copy it over

How to delete CABs in Windows Folder?

Even thought I did a bloatless install I found all of the bloatware cab files in my windows folder. Since I will never use any of this junk how do I delete them without WM6.1 telling me I can't?

They're a part of the ROM usually, which means that you can't deleted them.

The easiest way to delete them is to install ROMeOS Rom. Here's a link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421001.

kimtyson said:
The easiest way to delete them is to install ROMeOS Rom. Here's a link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421001.
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im sorry, but i really do not see the point of this. i doubt that when he posted this question, he wanted a response like this one. is it so difficult to give someone a straightforward answer to a straightforward question? even though romeos is a very great rom
like kareem said, you usually cannot delete them