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Hi,
The OK button at the side of the device is not "connected" to the OK button on the face of the device.
I was wondering if anyone knows how to remap the side-ok button to do something else.
I would love to know the same.
The killer app for this button for me would be as a 'back' button for pocket IE, which means it'd hit the left soft button.
shaharprish said:
I was wondering if anyone knows how to remap the side-ok button to do something else.
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Without third-party apps.....you can't
Moaske said:
Without third-party apps.....you can't
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Well then, how about WITH third party programs? AE Button Plus can't do it. What other ones can?
The side "ok" button is a tough one because it has multiple functions. In programs, explorer windows, and settings it acts as an OK button but when you're at the today screen it acts as a Start Menu button. I kinda get the feeling we're not going to be able to change this for a while. Not until someone releases a keymapper specifically for the Kaiser.
Whats wrong with the ok button?
its like an alt-tab to the today screen! so awesome.
even with the 8525 nobody has been able to re-map the ok button...it's still the biggest mystery, hehe....but now that they eliminated one button on the Tilt we really do need the ability to remap the ok button now...
I didn't have much luck remapping the OK button either. In AE Button it sort of maps to the Windows button, and I was able to change it...but never was able to get everything else working right after that and had to put it back.
I don't know the kaiser, but isn't Hbutton a solution for remapping hardware-keys ? On my Artemis i'm very happy with it...
Hbutton does not work on Tilt. especially setting it up
petervbeck said:
I don't know the kaiser, but isn't Hbutton a solution for remapping hardware-keys ? On my Artemis i'm very happy with it...
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is the same issue in Kiaser as well?
SPB Pocket Plus can remap this button.
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Well then, how about WITH third party programs? AE Button Plus can't do it. What other ones can?
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For me AE Buttons Plus did work. Then I wrote a MortScript to have the button act as a back button only in PIE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342464
Hope this helps.
v3patel said:
is the same issue in Kiaser as well?
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now i got an kaiser and using hbutton of course - working very well, mapped "OK/Close" and CommManager to the ok button and no issues.
Hbutton is one of the best ppc apps imo.
edit - damn - i remaped the front ok button - the side ok button can't be remaped with hbutton afaik.....sorry, my mistake...
I have the side OK button remapped in spb pocket plus v4 under the buttons menu in settings and the only thing you have to do is take focus off the start menu then it works as expected.
Russ
Hi all,
On my Kaiser, if I forget to unmute my phone before starting TomTom 6, I can't actually adjust my volume. The trick I used with my 8125 was to go to the Today screen and tap the volume control. On the Kaiser, touching the screen brings me back to tomtom, even if the today screen is displayed.
I remember finding a replacement exe for TomTom that unmuted the phone when it started and restored your former setting when you quit, but I can't find it even though I've searched for an hour. Help?
Thanks!
-n.
When I forget to turn on the volume, I slide open my Kaiser and press the Fn key together with the folder button (bottom right). From there, you're able to adjust the volume
But I guess it is indeed better if the volume gets adjusted automatically...
Stay0Puft said:
When I forget to turn on the volume, I slide open my Kaiser and press the Fn key together with the folder button (bottom right). From there, you're able to adjust the volume
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??? wats the folder button???
XtreMe_G said:
??? wats the folder button???
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It's that "Right Arrow" button. When you first press Fn (bottom left), all the blue symbols on your keyboard can be activated.
There is a blue icon of a folder on the Right Arrow key.
So press Fn and right arrow and you're in Windows again (and able to adjust the volume).
Then use your task manager to get back in TomTom.
Same problem for me with my Tilt. But, there's no folder icon on my keyboard to try your suggestion. The only way I've found is to exit TomTom, unmute the phone and start it again.
Anyone find a fix for use on the Tilt?
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It's that "Right Arrow" button. When you first press Fn (bottom left), all the blue symbols on your keyboard can be activated.
There is a blue icon of a folder on the Right Arrow key.
So press Fn and right arrow and you're in Windows again (and able to adjust the volume).
Then use your task manager to get back in TomTom.
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ah, i see, on the tilts, that key toggles wifi on/off
Found it!
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/gps-talk/140969-tomtom-6-volume-override-loader.html
This loader unmutes your phone when you launch tomtom, and restores your mute when you close. (it's smart about restoring the previous state, so it won't mute if you weren't muted before launching tomtom)
Incidentally, I have some useful links in my del.icio.us bookmarks tagged with 'windowsmobile'
http://del.icio.us/osunick/windowsmobile
(disclaimer: I'm a product manager on del.icio.us)
Hitting the phone "Hang up" button works to get back to the home screen.. you can then tap the TomTom icon bottom right to bring it back.
Fully
Have you tried this? Getting to the home screen is not the problem, it's that touching any part of the screen, including the volume control, puts you back in tomtom, thus making volume changes very difficult.
Is my Tilt different than your Tilt?
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Have you tried this? Getting to the home screen is not the problem, it's that touching any part of the screen, including the volume control, puts you back in tomtom, thus making volume changes very difficult.
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Im not sure what you guys talking about.
The FN + Arrow key works.
The hang up key works as well.
I have my windows key set as file explorer that works(perfectly).
Im usingTomTom 6. I cant recall my version.
When Im in TomTom and active my todays page. Tom Tom will minimize at bottom task bar. It lets me change just about anything.
Not sure why you guys has problem, maybe you need to install HTC taskmgr to solve this issue. Because most of my working program will minimize at bottom, so I can have fast access to it.
poisonz said:
Im not sure what you guys talking about.
The FN + Arrow key works.
The hang up key works as well.
I have my windows key set as file explorer that works(perfectly).
Im usingTomTom 6. I cant recall my version.
When Im in TomTom and active my todays page. Tom Tom will minimize at bottom task bar. It lets me change just about anything.
Not sure why you guys has problem, maybe you need to install HTC taskmgr to solve this issue. Because most of my working program will minimize at bottom, so I can have fast access to it.
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This may depend on what build of Tomtom you have. As the OP says with some b uilds, even when you get to the tgoday screen using Fn buttons, the very next screen tap takes you back into tomtom.
However, as also pinted out above, pressing the red phone key works and you can then change the volume or any other task, BUT instead of returning to it using a Task Manager you just tap the tomtom icon that has appeared in the lower task bar.
Mike
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This may depend on what build of Tomtom you have. As the OP says with some builds, even when you get to the tgoday screen using Fn buttons, the very next screen tap takes you back into tomtom.
However, as also pinted out above, pressing the red phone key works and you can then change the volume or any other task, BUT instead of returning to it using a Task Manager you just tap the tomtom icon that has appeared in the lower task bar.
Mike
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My Tilt has the original AT&T ROM and I'm running TomTom 6.010.
The trick with the red phone key always minimizes TT6 to the lower task bar. But, I usually get dumped back into TT6 when I tap anywhere on the screen. Sometimes (rarely) it does let me unmute the speaker, but mostly not.
The Fn-arrow trick never works for me.
It's usually easier for me to quit TT6, turn on the speaker and then restart it. Of course, that means I have to wait for GPS to start up again.
mikechannon is right, some builds of tomtom allow you to change the volume once you are in the today screen, some builds will just bring you right back to tomtom with a tap on the taskbar.
for the builds that bring you back to tomtom on a screen tap, this is how i do it, hit ok or red phone button to get back to the today screen. when its at the today screen, i press the ie button to bring up ie, then you can tap on the volume icon on the taskbar.
and it doesnt have to be ie, can be just any app, you can even launch anything thats on the today screen, just as long as you dont tap on the taskbar
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mikechannon is right, some builds of tomtom allow you to change the volume once you are in the today screen, some builds will just bring you right back to tomtom with a tap on the taskbar.
for the builds that bring you back to tomtom on a screen tap, this is how i do it, hit ok or red phone button to get back to the today screen. when its at the today screen, i press the ie button to bring up ie, then you can tap on the volume icon on the taskbar.
and it doesnt have to be ie, can be just any app, you can even launch anything thats on the today screen, just as long as you dont tap on the taskbar
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Yes! Just tried that trick and it works great... thanks!!!
Anyone know if its the older or newer builds that allow the volume change to work properly?
You guys should really try that TTLoader app that i linked to earlier. It maxes out your volume and launches TomTom and restores your original volume settings when you leave.
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You guys should really try that TTLoader app that i linked to earlier. It maxes out your volume and launches TomTom and restores your original volume settings when you leave.
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I did consider using that app, but am trying to keep the number of running programs down as low as possible. I'm willing to jump through a hoop or two to accomplish that.
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I did consider using that app, but am trying to keep the number of running programs down as low as possible. I'm willing to jump through a hoop or two to accomplish that.
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It's a very lightweight app and doesn't actually take up space in your registry, so it has zero impact when not running and minimal impact when tomtom is running. You should try it.
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It's a very lightweight app and doesn't actually take up space in your registry, so it has zero impact when not running and minimal impact when tomtom is running. You should try it.
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Okay... you got me! I tried the loader and am hooked on it!
But, here's one for you. I've got a spot on my Today screen with TomTom on it (tap and the program starts). Any way you know of to get the loader to start instead? Maybe I'm missing something very easy?
Thanks!
Gavin
Sadly no, I use either Voice Command or the PTT button to start TomTom.
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Okay... you got me! I tried the loader and am hooked on it!
But, here's one for you. I've got a spot on my Today screen with TomTom on it (tap and the program starts). Any way you know of to get the loader to start instead? Maybe I'm missing something very easy?
Thanks!
Gavin
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Great little app, thanks.
Is there any chance of a cab install version ?
So it can be simply reinstalled when I change roms (which I do a lot).
Many thanks for this little app. It saves me getting frustrated, and having to tap on the screen while driving.
Many Thanks
Chris D.
Sorry if it was already covered elsewhere, - is there any way to remap auctions for these side buttons on Diamond ? I don't change volume level that often, all done through profiles, imho up/down arrow or scroll function would be much more beneficial ...
Update: AEButton Plus does the thing perfectly, thanks to Geekess for the hint
volume up/down is OK but long press may be very useful for Explorer, task manager etc...
In other words configurable .. would be great for camera too, not easy to make pictures with central button, not stable enough ...
I did not follow development news for previous HTCs, so not sure if it was ever done before ...the fact is that these buttons are not available from Settings (
You can use PQZ II for remapping the volume key. Try to google it.
csc0503 said:
You can use PQZ II for remapping the volume key. Try to google it.
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thanks mate, you are a star
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/PQzII.htm
no version for diamond yet, will play with WM6 version tonight ...
hertc said:
will play with WM6 version tonight ...
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well, does not look good at the end, maybe these are hidden features, but I could not find a way of how to use the volume buttons independently (they work as Ctrl or Alt, no problem here, but I wanted to use them as one button - one action, not two buttons - one action). Another problem, Up/Down or Scroll are not available for selection as actions ....
So it should be possible to change that, the matter of finding the right program now ..
Wish there were more buttons on Diamond, or at least proper navigation buttons ...
Hmm... for me it does not work, get the message:
keyboard hook faild
any suggestions?
What works for me is AEButton Plus (payware, no affiliation). I have reconfigured my volume buttons to single press = arrow up/down and long press to volume. The program has a nice function: you can choose to let the volume buttons have their default behavior during a phonecall.
I'm using the trial right now, but if I can't find a freeware program that has the same functionality I will probably buy this.
May I ask how you've gone on with AEButton? I'd be interested to hear your long(er) term experience of having used it as it sounds like exactly what I want/need.
Mathew
all good, does what it says, configured it once and just using since ..
Tried latest HButton 2.3, but think it is not compatible ... anyone else tried it?
just wanted to see what everyone thinks about the button layout.
should we keep it?
should we change it?
how can we change the button layout ourselfs?
is there any progress on making an application to allow us to change our button layout?
what does everyone think?
im used to the button layout now but i would love to customize it to my liking.
There needs to be a third option. "Allow for customization"
Everyone perceives their needs differently.
EDIT: Should also mention that I'm fine with it the way it is, but the way your post is worded makes the third option necessary.
Leave it,
Its perfect.
leave it. Only add button combination for running apps.. If everyone's is different, you will have a hard time giving directions based on buttons.
i like it the way it is as well. the only thing nicer would be more buttons; if we were able to get the red button to "go home, then sleep" it would allow long press camera to be used to display running applications.
a program to modify the keymap was in the works. don't know what happened to it.
i think it would be awsome if the keymap were like this. power is power, volume is volume, 1 tap camera goes to landscape, long press camera goes to camera, left d-pad is back, right d-pad is forward, up d-pad is menu, down or center d-pad to go home, red end button as is, green button as is.
cp0020 said:
i think it would be awsome if the keymap were like this. power is power, volume is volume, 1 tap camera goes to landscape, long press camera goes to camera, left d-pad is back, right d-pad is forward, up d-pad is menu, down or center d-pad to go home, red end button as is, green button as is.
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can't change dpad function - need it for many games. for those who don't play games, would be great. once again, individualizable keymap seems best.
I personally like it.
We used to have an older configuration but this current one seems very usable making efficient use of the keys we have.
I like it as it is.
myn said:
I personally like it.
We used to have an older configuration but this current one seems very usable making efficient use of the keys we have.
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If you mean the original, menu on the volume slider, that was THE worst. Last year I quit Android as soon as I started because I hated using the volume slider all the time.
slow88lx said:
If you mean the original, menu on the volume slider, that was THE worst. Last year I quit Android as soon as I started because I hated using the volume slider all the time.
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personally i was in love with the old layout
i loved how holding the home button showed all running apps and made switching between them a breeze
if we could somehow incorporate the old layout
id be all for it!
even though i'm accustomed to the current one
cp0020 said:
i think it would be awsome if the keymap were like this. power is power, volume is volume, 1 tap camera goes to landscape, long press camera goes to camera, left d-pad is back, right d-pad is forward, up d-pad is menu, down or center d-pad to go home, red end button as is, green button as is.
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it would be cool to have that button layout and make the center d-pad to swith back to the current button layout so we can use the d-pad for games and whatnot.
cp0020 said:
it would be cool to have that button layout and make the center d-pad to swith back to the current button layout so we can use the d-pad for games and whatnot.
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That just seems overly complicated.
When I first switched to Android, I hated the layout, but it's grown on my now. Only thing I wish is for a spare button that could be made into a search button so I could have working quick compose in chomp sms.
preardon said:
That just seems overly complicated.
When I first switched to Android, I hated the layout, but it's grown on my now. Only thing I wish is for a spare button that could be made into a search button so I could have working quick compose in chomp sms.
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if we can put android on our phones i think we can do that
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if we can put android on our phones i think we can do that
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I was saying more from a user standpoint than a development standpoint.
For those that would like some onscreen softkeys that you can even see in the dark.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865525
I have been using this little utility on my Android HD2 for a while now and figured I would give it a shot on my Gtab. Works Great! Merry Christmas to All!
[UPDATE Dec 30th 2010]
This great utility is now on the Android Market. Install it from there and you will get prompts for updates when they are released. I had an update yesterday that added a couple of skins and a few new features. It also has a new settings interface and it still works great on the G-Tab!
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Work great.
thanks.
Awesome find!
great find..... I wish we could now disable the buttons on the side that are so annoying when you hit them accidentaly
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great find..... I wish we could not disable the buttons on the side that are so annoying when you hit them accidentaly
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Was thinking of trying to find a way to disable the right side hardware buttons myself. They are fine until you are trying to reposition the tablet and accidentally press one. Or lose your grip and are grasping for purchase and press one then. Very annoying for sure.
Great find. Whose up for doing a YouTube review?
Scott
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Great find. Whose up for doing a YouTube review?
Scott
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Would do one myself but have no dock or easel at this time that would provide the necessary stability for video purposes.
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Neat app I like it. I put 4 very tiny adhesive dots on the side of the case so I know where everything is at night. This app works too though
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Neat app I like it. I put 4 very tiny adhesive dots on the side of the case so I know where everything is at night. This app works too though
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Some nice little glow in the dark dots would be nice. I wonder if something like that would affect the responsiveness of the buttons? Maybe the dude from AndroidStickers.com can give us some input here?
BTW, this app has been updated and is now on the Android Market. Check the OP for more info.
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Some nice little glow in the dark dots would be nice. I wonder if something like that would affect the responsiveness of the buttons? Maybe the dude from AndroidStickers.com can give us some input here?
BTW, this app has been updated and is now on the Android Market. Check the OP for more info.
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Did a quick market search for button savior and got nadda. What's It called there?
Allenfx said:
Did a quick market search for button savior and got nadda. What's It called there?
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It shows up in market for me. Have you done the market fix (clear cache, etc.)? It's exactly as spelled above.
Jim
hitekredneck said:
Some nice little glow in the dark dots would be nice. I wonder if something like that would affect the responsiveness of the buttons? Maybe the dude from AndroidStickers.com can give us some input here?
BTW, this app has been updated and is now on the Android Market. Check the OP for more info.
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I have tried fluorescent reinforcement stickers, but you can not see them that well in total darkness. As far as disabling the keys you have to cover them with something thick like leather or many layers of paper. I tried sticky notes.... several layers of them but they still pick up your touch
this app is a lifesavor! Streaming vids crash alot due to that damn cooliris.com gallery association. Button Savior is the only escape when gallery decides FC.
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I might be way off, but I saw an app in the market called Button Remapper. I haven't had a chance to dig into it, but it looks like it's able to remap the soft keys on the bezel. I don't know if they can be remapped to null or an empty command, but at the least maybe they can be remapped to something that doesn't do much (like dpad up/down/left/right or something).
If I get a chance to play with it, I'll report back. Of course, anybody who beats me to it is encouraged to post their results.
EDIT:
Hey, it worked. I decided to jump into it and try it out. I basically just popped in and replaced any buttons that were soft buttons (search/home/menu/back) with DPAD buttons. I don't know if changing every reference is required or if there are better options than using DPAD buttons, but it's a start.
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DPAD worked fine but I kept accidentally selecting links and whatnot in the browser. I tried End Call, since we don't have phone capability, but it seemed to just close whatever app I was in. Ended up binding Back/Menu to Volume Down and Search/Home to Volume Up, which is working well.
EDIT AGAIN AGAIN:
Even better, Focus seems to not do anything at all (obviously), unless in an app that uses the camera's focus. Don't know how I didn't notice that. Now to train myself to never use the soft keys!
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I might be way off, but I saw an app in the market called Button Remapper. I haven't had a chance to dig into it, but it looks like it's able to remap the soft keys on the bezel. I don't know if they can be remapped to null or an empty command, but at the least maybe they can be remapped to something that doesn't do much (like dpad up/down/left/right or something).
If I get a chance to play with it, I'll report back. Of course, anybody who beats me to it is encouraged to post their results.
EDIT:
Hey, it worked. I decided to jump into it and try it out. I basically just popped in and replaced any buttons that were soft buttons (search/home/menu/back) with DPAD buttons. I don't know if changing every reference is required or if there are better options than using DPAD buttons, but it's a start.
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DPAD worked fine but I kept accidentally selecting links and whatnot in the browser. I tried End Call, since we don't have phone capability, but it seemed to just close whatever app I was in. Ended up binding Back/Menu to Volume Down and Search/Home to Volume Up, which is working well.
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Even better, Focus seems to not do anything at all (obviously), unless in an app that uses the camera's focus. Don't know how I didn't notice that. Now to train myself to never use the soft keys!
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How easy is it to revert back to stock button action? Or do you turn this function ON each time you boot and then run this program?
At each bootup there's a notification item that you can select to restore to your defaults, which you can clear until the next restart, in case something gets borked.
I have 4 very small black metal "nail covers" that I superglued directly on the side next to each soft button. Now I just feel the button with my index finger and use the side of my thumb to press the screen next to it, works great in the dark, better than the adhesive pads I had. Very small and black and low profile...
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At each bootup there's a notification item that you can select to restore to your defaults, which you can clear until the next restart, in case something gets borked.
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I am running tnt lite 3.1.4 and just downloaded button remapper. It loaded, but when I went to run it it FC and never let me set any buttons. Now each time I run it it FC.
What rom are you on?
Thanks
EDIT:Working fine for me now. Don't use galaxy tab version. Download standard.
reynwrap582 said:
I might be way off, but I saw an app in the market called Button Remapper. I haven't had a chance to dig into it, but it looks like it's able to remap the soft keys on the bezel. I don't know if they can be remapped to null or an empty command, but at the least maybe they can be remapped to something that doesn't do much (like dpad up/down/left/right or something).
If I get a chance to play with it, I'll report back. Of course, anybody who beats me to it is encouraged to post their results.
EDIT:
Hey, it worked. I decided to jump into it and try it out. I basically just popped in and replaced any buttons that were soft buttons (search/home/menu/back) with DPAD buttons. I don't know if changing every reference is required or if there are better options than using DPAD buttons, but it's a start.
EDIT AGAIN:
DPAD worked fine but I kept accidentally selecting links and whatnot in the browser. I tried End Call, since we don't have phone capability, but it seemed to just close whatever app I was in. Ended up binding Back/Menu to Volume Down and Search/Home to Volume Up, which is working well.
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Even better, Focus seems to not do anything at all (obviously), unless in an app that uses the camera's focus. Don't know how I didn't notice that. Now to train myself to never use the soft keys!
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is button remapper free?
I'm on Vegan B3.
ButtonRemapper is US$1.03