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Turn TouchFlo 3D on and off?!

I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.

It is possible to toggle between spb mobile 2 screens and touchflo 3d though.

Kill Manila.exe
Has anybody come up with an automated(one click) way of killing the Manila.exe process ?

Mortscript
Create a script with Mortscript to check for the presence of manila.exe.
If not present, start it.
If present, kill it.
Create a shortcut to the script in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Assign this shortcut to button 1.

Simon D said:
I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
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thought thats called SecondToday?

ToggleManila.mscr
I have the same problem, that I want to turn on TouchFlo 3D, but still want to keep my "Classic" Today Screen intact.
Although I tried SecondToday, however it cannot display the internal plugins such as Tasks, Calendar and Date
Thanks to wensing's suggestion, I created this simple script. If you want to run the script, please follow the instructions below.
a) The first thing you need to do is to disable the TouchFLO 3D from Today Panel Plugins, then activate your favourite Today Plugins (except TF3D)
b) Install MortScript
c) Put the "ToggleManila.mscr" in any folder you prefer.
d) Create a shortcut to this script, name it (eg. ToggleToday.lnk) and put the shortcut inside the folder "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs".
e) Go to Settings->Buttons, and simply assign "Button 1(Hold)" to point to the ToggleToday shortcut.
Of course you are free to experiment with other settings or assign it any other buttons.
Another thing to note is, because TF3D will "take over" the Home hardware button, I have no choice but to kill it, so that the classic Today Screen can be activated after TF3D is killed. However this also means the next time you activate TF3D, it will take some time to load. So please be patient and wait for the TF3D while it is loading.
Anyway, this is my first attempt at using MortScript, just a simple piece of work, but hope that I can bring some joy to my fellow Diamond users.
Hope that it works for you guys

Thanks Wensing
The mortscript suggestion works perfectly.

I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?

when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?

Uncheck TF3D
oldhouse said:
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
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Have u tried to uncheck TF3D from Settings->Today->Items before launching the mortscript?

podman2004 said:
when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
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So far, I am using Settings->Buttons and I assign "ToggleManila" to Button1(Hold). By default this may have been assigned to other programs such as Voice Commander etc. Just replace it with "ToggleManila".
I am not familiar with other more advance programs that allow u to assign it to the other hard buttons, so I am sorry I can't advice u on that.
By the way, u might have to create a shortcut that points to the actual file where u place the ToggleManila.mscr, and then u put this shortcut (I simply name it ToggleManila.lnk) inside Windows->Start Menu->Programs before u can select "ToggleManila".
See if it works.

This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.

Davey101 said:
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
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i second this statement. tried it and works great for me on the touch pro

Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..

charly_mx said:
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
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I'm using Dutty's Diamond v1.8 (full) and used to have speed problems when launching applications, particularly after using the audio player.
TF3D is alright but it doesn't actually do anything that special. The weather screen is pretty but most of the other screens are useless, especially the horribly limited 'favourite contacts'. Now that I've got used to the standard windows today screen I prefer it.
I'm looking forward to trying out Schap's TouchXperience though!

that's work very nice
now we must wait for TFL3D tasks and who knows how this thing will be

this works great with the manila2D with the touch. One question though. The script kills the manila2D very quickly, but it does take several seconds for it to run it; any way of speeding that up?

thanks for the script
work very well

thanks for the script. great work

As Leekg has mentioned you can use TF3D and SPB Shell together.
I have left TF3D as it is and installed the SPB Shell as well. On the home screen have reprogrammed one of the Soft keys to SPB Menu -- touching that takes me to the Shell. Closing it brings me back to TF3D!
I do have a question though -- is there any way of changing the default msic player to windows media?

Startmenu items not displayed?!?

Hi,
I was playing a little bit around with my new Diamond (installing apps, tweaks with advanced config, ...) and since the last soft-reset I only see a black panel, when I open the startmenu, but when I press somewhere inside this panel the items are shown, but the item under the position I've pressed is imediatly excecuted!
Is there a way to get the items back without formating the device?
regards
cfi

did you install SecondToday?
if so, a new version has been made, what might fix your problem

I've updated SecondToday but the Startmenu is still away...
I think I will do a comlete clean of the phone to remove all of my "tests" in the last days...

The same happened to me when I enabled the Startmenu animation.

lostsoul said:
The same happened to me when I enabled the Startmenu animation.
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The same to me - Just disable the Startmenu-animation in Advanced Config, Softreset and the Menu is back again...

I have that same issue with the black start menu. I solved it.. Just disable the ''Large Start menu'' in settings.
Just know which programs will conflict with the OS.
I have wisbar conflicting with Marschall Wait Cursor by showing no taskbar sometimes. So i dont use MWC

It was the "Animate Menu"-Setting at mine to...

some tweaks will mess up the phones functions, make sure its a supported cab
if not just hard reset and should be fine again

Startmenu & Calendar?

Hey,
I'm using a Touchflo 3d rom on my X1 and was wondering if there is a way to hide the startmenu very much like we can on any normal windows? I'w been searching google for days without any findings.
Also, are there any .cabs for just the Touchflo Calendar & tab?
Thanks alot
/FreUd

what do u mean hide the start menu? isn't it hidden untill you press start?
or do u mean hide the whole top row (inc. start button and icons etc.)

i believe TS want to hide the whole panel which i know it can be done if you are using pointui home2, not sure with other shell apps.
V

You can use Wisbar Advance to hide the entire start menu

Yes, I ment the entire bar, like in windows where you can just "scroll" over it to show.
MapleDouglas said:
You can use Wisbar Advance to hide the entire start menu
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I'll try that out, thanks

How do you re-enable the new manilla start menu in registry.

I know in the new roms the new start menu is included which is part of the new manilla but some people dont like it and prefer to use the original HTC enlarged start menu. I have the latter and want to go back to the new start menu. I know there is a registry edit to enable it again or maybe a cab file?
I have searched for "start menu" but keep coming up with answers about original menu.
Many thanks. I have Davide HP v4 rom.

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I know in the new roms the new start menu is included which is part of the new manilla but some people dont like it and prefer to use the original HTC enlarged start menu. I have the latter and want to go back to the new start menu. I know there is a registry edit to enable it again or maybe a cab file?
I have searched for "start menu" but keep coming up with answers about original menu.
Many thanks. I have Davide HP v4 rom.
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I put a cab together for ITJe x1 roms, (as I also prefer it)
it's here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170453&d=1238107164

Thanks I installed and reset. When I tap on the start menu I do get the black Start manilla page but no apps are listed. Its just a black page with the word Start top middle. Any ideas?

"Old" startmenu.

I recently bought TD2, and is by no means a big fan of the new startmenu. How is it possible to replace it with the "old" one ?
I've been searching the forum, since I've heard of a little program that can fix this issue, but without luck .
Thanks in advance !

The new start menu comes as part of Touch Flo 3D.....If you distable TF3D in settings\personal\today\items, you get the old menu system.

I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.

HandySpanner said:
I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
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There are two great lacks in the new menu :
1. too few items available in the 'icons' start page, and no kind of sub-folders or program groups.
then
2. if you go in the full list because your program is not in the icons page, the list can be long and fastidious.
Hope it will be corrected in next version and be available for D2, or windows 6.5 titanium/CHome will replace TF3D

Try TF3D2 Tweak in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502102

Thank you all, for your replies .

If you just want to change the start menu but leave Manila turned on, just change the following in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\Enable ManilaStartMenu =dword:00000000
After a restart you have the old start menu

Is it possiple too keep both ways?
I mean when you press the start menu on the top of the screen to have the old start menu and when you press the windows hard key to have the new one?
I think this would be more usefull for many people who like the new menu but want some features of the old one!

kitarolivier said:
There are two great lacks in the new menu :
1. too few items available in the 'icons' start page, and no kind of sub-folders or program groups.
2. if you go in the full list because your program is not in the icons page, the list can be long and fastidious.
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Ah right, I see. I've not hit that issue, I guess I just don't use that many programs!

One question: how can I enable the old style like in WM 6.1.
I use 6.5 without Manilla (UDK R1.)
It's annoying to select start/settings/connections if you want to set more the 1 thing...bluetooth, WIFI etc....also for programs.
Or how can I customize the start menu in 6.5 ...order, content...

another way
This would keep the new start menu when you tap on "start" and make pop-up a replica similar whith the old one when you tap on windows or whatever icon you have on the upper left corner of the screen near the text "start". I didn't make this just downloaded from somewhere.

cliviu said:
This would keep the new start menu when you tap on "start" and make pop-up a replica similar whith the old one when you tap on windows or whatever icon you have on the upper left corner of the screen near the text "start". I didn't make this just downloaded from somewhere.
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Doesn't seem to work on my Diamond2. (Does nothing)
I was wondering if someone could do a buttom like the settings buttom in the new start menu that could open the old programs menu.
I think this shouldn't be so difficult, since there is a similar buttom for the settings.

Welcome here Liviu. (Bine ai venit pe aici, marfa site-u pt HTC-uri)
I try it Quick Menu, it's like Windows PC START menu and it's hard to use with a finger
I speak about the old menu from WM6.1 not Pc windows...
Ksara it's works on TD2 I try it and work well but it's not what I want.

You are right Pauln, it's not finger friendly but hei! that stylus is there so ...
Anyway for me it does the job so here is a pic for those who want an alternative. The icon "Quick menu" you will find also in Programs.

HandySpanner said:
I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
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I'm one of them. I disabled touchflo and installed spb pocket plus: I've got everything in sight, with no need to flip over strange desktops and icons!

I found these registry entries somewhere else and i thing these are the key to make a shortcut in manila programs folder to the old Programs folder Just like there is for the settings folder (number 3)
"Remove the locked program tab items
Code:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/0/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/1/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/2/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/3/IsReadOnly
Change this value from 1 to a 0 and you can then edit their shortcuts."
Please someone who is familiar with this , create a shortcut.

gogan said:
I'm one of them. I disabled touchflo and installed spb pocket plus: I've got everything in sight, with no need to flip over strange desktops and icons!
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But what is the way to do it, because I don't want to install some software that almost does the same. I want it the old way.
Please help.