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What exactly is hardSPL? USPL vs hardSPL

I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks

Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,

three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.

nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading

Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .

nKiwan said:
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness

there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,

nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.

Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info

Glad I can help

I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.

Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.

very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??

nKiwan said:
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104

Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja

I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?

Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.

Can't upgrade to cooked ROM

hello guys...i've been trying to upgrade to this Romeo's rom....but seems there's a problem with it...after i copy n run the jump spl, the screen become tri color...n i waited for the "usb" words to appear in the middle of the screen,but it didn't appear....and because of this i've been stuck at these steps for few days...i hav searched at the wiki's, but couldnt find about this probl..help pls guys...thanks in advvnce,,

okay..think i find the way now..searchd again at the wiki...n the suggestion was to reflash the original rom...think this is my original rom "1.81.707.0 (radio 1.27.12.11) Dopod WWE "...the question is...the rom version and the radio version is different here....the rom vers is exactly the same wit my rom...but the radio is different....should i just proceed or not?

What version of JumpSPL are you using? Mine, and a couple of other's as well, didn't show the "USB" with version 1.93. Try version 1.56 and it should work.

Please tell me that you are not trying to flash a ROM using JumpSPL...

i've been told to use this "JumpSPL1.93-KAIS" in order to use the "@ROMEOS_v3_5"...i just follow the steps given to me...

Connect Kaiser to computer using USB cable
Make sure ActiveSync icon is GREEN
RUN kaiser-HardSPL.exe on Computer (PC)
Follow instructions on screen:
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Wonder if someone told him to cid-unlock first..
The wiki/sticky would have.

ChumleyEX said:
Wonder if someone told him to cid-unlock first..
The wiki/sticky would have.
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That's why I went with an open-ended statement/question. His original post states he checked the Wiki, but I saw no mention of HardSPL.

NotATreoFan said:
That's why I went with an open-ended statement/question. His original post states he checked the Wiki, but I saw no mention of HardSPL.
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i checked wiki because the instruction given to me went wrong...i downloaded this romeo v3.5 and comes together with jumpspl and hardspl as well...the instruction ask me run the jumpspl before running evrything else....so here,u guys saying that i should straight away run the hard spl is it?

giggsy_lel said:
i checked wiki because the instruction given to me went wrong...i downloaded this romeo v3.5 and comes together with jumpspl and hardspl as well...the instruction ask me run the jumpspl before running evrything else....so here,u guys saying that i should straight away run the hard spl is it?
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JumpSPL
HardSPL
ROMeOS
in that order...

Ok, so I know I have posted this before....and have seen it posted in about 100 other places ( not to mention the ROM UPGRADING thread right on the front page of the WIKI ). JUMPSPL is ONLY used to flash your current locked spl into a HARDSPL.
Step 1
Run JumpSPL on the phone
Step 2
Flash HARDSPL onto the phone
Step 3
Using HARDSPL, Flash your ROM and/or RADIO
NEVER NEVER NEVER DEVIATE FROM THIS!!!!!

pyraxiate said:
Ok, so I know I have posted this before....and have seen it posted in about 100 other places ( not to mention the ROM UPGRADING thread right on the front page of the WIKI ). JUMPSPL is ONLY used to flash your current locked spl into a HARDSPL.
Step 1
Run JumpSPL on the phone
Step 2
Flash HARDSPL onto the phone
Step 3
Using HARDSPL, Flash your ROM and/or RADIO
NEVER NEVER NEVER DEVIATE FROM THIS!!!!!
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yeapp...this the order i followed..after i run the jumspl,the tricolor thing appeard...and the sync stopped..and it didn't reconnect,i tried to run the hardspl n follow the steps..but it appears no connection with device...when i checked the wiki about stuck at tricolor...they ask to flash back the shipped rom again..found that rom but in different radio vers with mine....is it ok to just run the original rom again?

giggsy_lel said:
yeapp...this the order i followed..after i run the jumspl,the tricolor thing appeard...and the sync stopped..and it didn't reconnect,i tried to run the hardspl n follow the steps..but it appears no connection with device...when i checked the wiki about stuck at tricolor...they ask to flash back the shipped rom again..found that rom but in different radio vers with mine....is it ok to just run the original rom again?
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In answer to your Question, Yes.
Read the instructions of Post #2 very carefully of this thread to install Hard SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922.
Then flash the ROM.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
In answer to your Question, Yes.
Read the instructions of Post #2 very carefully of this thread to install Hard SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922.
Then flash the ROM.
Ta
Dave
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okayyy bosss....i think this might help...gonna try now..

finallyy...i got it man...thankss alot devshaw...i found that u must take out the sdcard n simcard in order to proceed the steps...now i'm gonna test some roms here...hey devshaw which rom u think best?for me i prefer roms having nice interfaces....seems dutty n L26 are more in interfaces...their design is gorgeus....since this is the first time flashing the rom i don't know which to choose...i've been told to use romeos by hang.tuah,since he's same country from me...i just give it a shot...any recommends??

giggsy_lel said:
finallyy...i got it man...thankss alot devshaw...i found that u must take out the sdcard n simcard in order to proceed the steps...now i'm gonna test some roms here...hey devshaw which rom u think best?for me i prefer roms having nice interfaces....seems dutty n L26 are more in interfaces...their design is gorgeus....since this is the first time flashing the rom i don't know which to choose...i've been told to use romeos by hang.tuah,since he's same country from me...i just give it a shot...any recommends??
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For a nice UI try the [27-08-08] L26 KaiserDiamond Throttle Launcher (Beta 6 released!). ROMeOS is fast and stable though, best way to find out is to try them.
Ta
Dave

Please help

Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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USPL and HSPL do this for you so you are able to flash a rom or radio. Read this page from wiki. It'll help you understand
Follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide on how to flash (can be found in my signature). If you intend to do a lot of flashing I'd flash HSPL as its permanent whilst USPL is temporary and you'd need to re-use it before every flash to new rom or radio
Latest HSPL can also be found in my signature

Ah excellent thank you so much.
So can I flash straight to the newest 1.56 rom from my current version which is 1.19.61.1WWE on orange?
Or is there a stage in between I would have to do.
Thanks again.

futurama said:
Ah excellent thank you so much.
So can I flash straight to the newest 1.56 rom from my current version which is 1.19.61.1WWE on orange?
Or is there a stage in between I would have to do.
Thanks again.
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Flashing from one HTC stock rom to another you don't need to use USPL or HSPL. But going to a cooked rom you do.
Answer to your query is it depends on route you take. If you go down the USPL route you'll need to follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide. Would take to long to explain and he as already done a very good tutorial on the subject. If you go down HSPL route, all you need to do is flash latest HSPL then 1.56 rom

That clears everything up. one last thing, which rom would you reccomend? I like the look of the enwer roms with WM6.
Thanks again much appreciated.

futurama said:
That clears everything up. one last thing, which rom would you reccomend? I like the look of the enwer roms with WM6.
Thanks again much appreciated.
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I'm currently testing Dutty's V3.4. His V3.3 is already released but I'd wait for the new release hopefully in a few days. Both are based on WM6.1. Alternatively their is so many good roms out there. I'd also recommend Davideuck, EnergyROM & L26_THDV2.2 (Laurentius26). All very good roms by very good cooks. Best thing would be to try each of them and make your own opinion

thanks again mate, you are a legend, Ill post tonight to let you know how it went.

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM?

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM? I didn`t know that

yeeehooo got it all sorted and working!
Thanks everyone involved with XDA developers.

davemazo said:
Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM? I didn`t know that
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There are a few forms of unlocking but the bottom line is that you need to bypass the checking which is done in the flash process.
One way is permanat as done once no issues anymore - HSPL
Another is as and when you need - USPL.
Wiki has a walk through that needs to be upated but I thought still was useable.
Flash the new 1.56 shipped rom and then move on to cooked roms. (will help you by pass the greenscreen issue)

futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Can you tell me were you got lost in wiki so that I can correct it in a more user frinedly version.

futurama said:
yeeehooo got it all sorted and working!
Thanks everyone involved with XDA developers.
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Sorry to hijack your thread futurama but I am having the same problem. Could you let me know how you did it

Thanks HDuser. Not sure if you know where I`m up to but originally I flashed my Orange 1.19.61.1 ROM with USPL and then flashed Duttys 2.7 1.56 based ROM which has given me the green screen problem. An earlier poster suggested I flash Olinex HSPL 1.54 to cure the problem. The problem I am having now is the phone refuses to sync with the PC. I have tried Vista and XP, the PC does not hibernate or sleep or anything, the phone is set to not switch off. It will usually sync on first connection but after a few seconds it will disconnect and therefore HSPL is reporting as being disconnected.
I have tried the earlier HSPL and HSPL 1.56 (as the ROM in bootloader screen is reported as being 1.56 and SPL is 1.14). I feel I`m going round in circles and its only a matter of time before I brick the phone.
I have read and re-read the wikis but I am now just getting more and more confused.

davemazo
Look the best way to approach any problem is to go back to the roots.
Flash a stock rom, find your own stock rom and refalsh it, then take it from there.
Your post is missleading and I have no idea were to sart. One issue is your PC ist does not Hibanate, not or go into sleep mode, at the saem time you are saying that you can't sync. Sounds like you have other problems and those other problems are making you have problems with your device.

Thanks HDuser. Sorry for confusing you, but I am now totally confused myself, Basically though the phone does not sync with the PC, I have tried 2 PC`s, with Vista and XP.
But back to your point about flashing stock ROM, I have tried a link in the wiki to download the one I need which is Orange 1.19.61.1 but the link seems to be broken and I don`t know where else I can get it. It doesn`t seem to be on the Orange website or HTC.

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Can you tell me were you got lost in wiki so that I can correct it in a more user frinedly version.
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There is a part on the black stone wiki that mentions I need to CID unlock my phone. It says you need to do this before you can flash roms, I felt it wasn't clear that, all I needed to do was flash HSPL in order to allow me to put new roms on.
This is what I did.
1:Flashed HSPL olinex 1.14.
2:Flashed HSPL Olinex1.56
3:Flashed MIRI WM6.5 10.0WWE
only part I had trouble with, my phone wouldnt let me flash the HSPL at first, I had to use a manual thing that you launch on the device the it lets you flash the HSPL.

futurama said:
There is a part on the black stone wiki that mentions I need to CID unlock my phone. It says you need to do this before you can flash roms, I felt it wasn't clear that, all I needed to do was flash HSPL in order to allow me to put new roms on.
This is what I did.
1:Flashed HSPL olinex 1.14.
2:Flashed HSPL Olinex1.56
3:Flashed MIRI WM6.5 10.0WWE
only part I had trouble with, my phone wouldnt let me flash the HSPL at first, I had to use a manual thing that you launch on the device the it lets you flash the HSPL.
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It sounds as if you have it sorted now and everything working. As HDUser stated previously HSPL & USPL allows you to bypass the CID lock to enable you to flash new roms

Only thing I need clearing up, I can change my SPL back to the original version cant it?
Just incase anything goes tits up and I need to send it back

futurama said:
Only thing I need clearing up, I can change my SPL back to the original version cant it?
Just incase anything goes tits up and I need to send it back
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Of course you can. All information you need including original stock radio's, roms etc are available in wiki to download.

Some problems after I have flashed

Hi!
Today I've decided, after many reads to update my HTC Touch HD to a cooked ROM.
So I've followed this procedure and all was ok:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3625567&postcount=272
I choosed the EnergyRom Leo Standard M2.5.
So first thing, my screen is blue since the start, but it became ok if I just turn off and up the screen.
Second problem, after 1-2 minute of use, the screen doesn't respond anymore.
I said ok, and I tried another rom, the XannyTechROM Grid Leo, and same problems! What is wrong?
Can you help me?
Thank you!

Your problem is classic for not having the correct SPL. You need to flash 1.56 or greater. Please refer to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377, and in the future post all questions there. Good luck!
S3

Sean3 said:
Your problem is classic for not having the correct SPL. You need to flash 1.56 or greater. Please refer to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377, and in the future post all questions there. Good luck!
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Okay, so if I understand good, I must use HSPL instead of USPL?

You can also flash an official ROM with 1.56SPL and use USPL.

If I want to update to one in french, I absolutely need to use this one:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_FRA_1.56.406.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe?
Because the download is very slow :S

I just finish to download and install the previous ROM, but it's written now SPL-1.54 in the boot loader, will it be enough?

Nargzul said:
I just finish to download and install the previous ROM, but it's written now SPL-1.54 in the boot loader, will it be enough?
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Before flashing any rom based on 1.56+ you need to have either SPL 1.56.Olinex (using HSPL) or SPL v 1.15.USPL (Using USPL)
All this info can be found in dummies guide thread. No need for another.
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flashing to a new rom

Hi all i am new to this got my first HTC Touch HD today
looking at the roms theres a few i like just got a few questions.
what is the best to use HSPL or USPL?
will flashing a new rom mess up my sim lock?
When it says donate whast the normal to donate? dont want to give to little
thanks about it
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings

HSPL sits in ur rom permanently whereas USPL opens the loop once. That means flashing each time u need to use USPL
U need to read this guide fully to understand and make ur choice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
People donate as low as US$ 5 whereas donating US$ 10 is a good amount to start with. Flash different rom's and make ur choice which author u like more. Then u can donate a higher amount if u like that author's creation. I am a big fan of Energy's pheonix rom.
Regarding SIM lock. Flashing rom doesnt mess with ur SIM lock or unlock feature and if ur sim is locked u can open it with olipro's tool. Try searching it in the forum.
It all depends on u what flashing method u choose, how much u donate and which rom meets ur needs....
Welcome to XDA and have a great time here.
BEWARE: Flashing ur phones makes ur phone look much cooler and sexier and u will madly fall in love with ur Touch HD once u find ur perfect rom
HAVE A GREAT STAY....

Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings

also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
thanks again

hemmjonny said:
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
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HSPL is one written to the handset. USPL isn't written to the handset, the files are sent to the handset when used and it loads another SPL on top of the existing one which is lost when the handset is rebooted (i.e. when the ROM has been installed).
I personally use USPL so I can keep the stock SPL as installed by HTC. Some prefer the HSPL as they don't have to use USPL everytime they want to flash.
I'd probably start with USPL and if you find you flash more often, change to HSPL. Apparently though, HSPL provides more protection against a bad flash - unsure what it does though as I've never used it
It doesn't matter what SPL you use though, once a ROM is flashed to the phone, it stays there until you flash another.
hemmjonny said:
also is there a way of making a copy of the rom that is on my phone now just incase i did not get on with any of them and i wanted to go back to this one?
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I'm unsure of any way to backup an existing ROM. I'd take a look on HTC's website as they may have an updated stock ROM available for download. I keep that one as my stock ROM to revert to after a couple of custom ROM flashes.

hemmjonny said:
Thanks for the info mate
one thing i cant get my head round is the USPL and HSPL it say that HSPL is permanent but then it says once you have done it you can flash as ment times as you like ?? i am a little confused.
with the USPL if the battery dies or you take your battery out will it lose the rom?
Thanks
Jonathan Hemmings
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Factory SPL is preventing you to flash any ROM made for another region or another language. Sometimes there are specific ROMs, made by HTC for certain providers, and SPL takes care to allow you only to flash an official upgrade for the same provider or the same region.
If you wish to flash a cooked ROM, you need to circumvent this protection in the SPL.
USPL makes a loophole in your existing SPL and it will allow flashing (now I see jonifen has explained it better). However, that loophole will disappear after the hard reset. Whenever you decide to flash another ROM, yo'll have to repeat USPL. The advantage is that you keep your official SPL.
HSPL is completely replacing your SPL with a new one, and the new one is slightly changed by OliNex: it always let you flash any ROM you want.
Hard reset will not affect it, as hard resets do not replace or wipe the ROM, SPL or the radio, they only wipe all your data and all 3rd party applications installed by you.

Thanks for all the info i am now flashing i have gone for HSPL as my phone is out of warranty + its lots easier + more stable from what i have read on here.
Thanks again for all your help
Jonathan