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*Second post is a quick tutorial of all the steps I did*
For the past year+ I lots of problems with my tilt. Terrible keyboard response problems, like the keyboard only working 25% of the time. The touch screen being unresponsive or slow 50% of the time. I've hated my phone. Thought it was just a piece of junk. I soft reset so much I thought the reset button was going to fail.
I tried nearly every new ROM that came out, each time after being dissapointed because my problems remained, then I'd move on to the disable xt9 cab, tilt keyboard fix cab, keyboard speed up cab (which I'm still not sure if works, since I now have my initial keyboard delay set at 0 and I don't know if I see a difference), etc. Tried the touch sensitivity registry edit, installed the (I think) x1 touch sensitivity cab. But nothing seemed to change a thing.
I had realized that most of my issues were software related because sometimes things would work fine (for a couple minutes). I've tried the press the hell out of the keyboard buttons fix that was supposed to regain contact between the key, and the sensor for the keyboard, and pretty much everything out there.
Then I recently installed the HTC ROM for the Tilt, and voila, I have a new phone, works nearly flawlessly.
Since then, I have installed Manila 2d (start with update 20, install everything included, then install the latest version) youtube/opera/google maps/audio manager/pictures etc. all work perfectly, installed the Manila2D v20 N2A patch which fixed the weather tab to show my home town, M2DC and applied a new skin, Total Commander (to move the edited weathercities file), Wstask (awesome), ATT Navigator, Windows Live (great for syncing contacts), and it works perfectly. It's fast. I can use my phone now without the struggle, and am happier than I've been in a long time.
I haven't heard anyone suggesting this so I thought I'd let everyone know. This is the phone I always wanted from my Tilt. I have to assume that the minor hardware differences between versions creates a problem with non-native ROM's, and if you are having problems I recommend trying a factory ROM made for your device, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Dustin
*edit* As I'm sure most know, there are hardware issues with the keyboard for many, this will obviously not fix those issues. However, I was able to fix the massive software issues I've had which also effected the keyboard. I still have a testy Y key, but it's not a huge issue when compared to what it was like before. My phone works great.
Correct Forum?
Flashed to the HTC ROM for the AT&T Tilt, download here:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspxp_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Soft reset immediately after screen alignment, and setup to avoid bloatware.
Adjusted settings for MediaNet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1632060#post1632060
Installed the following cab files (here's the files, install order, what to do, how to do it, etc. is up to you, try to search for yourselves, I'll try to answer questions posed, included iFonz, and a couple other cabs for the heck of it if you guys wanna play with em):
http://http://rapidshare.com/files/239391014/Cab_Files.rar
Read the following post for info on installing m2d:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425851
To install telenav go to the following address from your phone:
ota.telenav.com/att/tnn
If you do it right, I think you'll be happy campers, enjoy!
Dustin
I've been having the same issues with my tilt as well. EXTREMELY annoying. I love the tilt, but hate that it constantly lags.
Do you have a link to the ROM from HTC?
The last ROM from HTC for the tilt gave me problems
Yes please post the link as i am also having this problem.
Thanks
Link inside!
Here y'all go. It's important to note that this is ROM build 1.62.502.0 and will change your radio to 1.27.14.09. Further info can be found HERE
HTC AT&T Tilt ROM
Different link to the Rom
Here is the link for the page HTC posted the Tilt ROM download if you would like to read first before downloading:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Hope this helps you guys. For me it was night and day. Let me know if this helps you guys.
Also, I wonder if there are any ROM cooks out there who are interested in cooking ROM's based on the Tilt ROM. That would be sweeet!!!
Dustin
*edit* I'm not sure about the ROM tmnt.mikey posted, but the link I've posted does not change the radio to that version, I flashed and have radio version 1.65.21.18. I'm not sure what radio I was using pre-flash (oops).
does this work with kaiser as well?
because at&t does not have the front camera...
so if i flash to this rom, will it render my front camera unusable?
not that it's really that important, i'd rather have my keyboard functioning well again.
other than that, is there any complication if i run this on my kaiser?
because in the HTC page, it's said... only for at&t tilt...
Kaiser ROM
I have no way to know if this ROM will work for the Kaiser, someone would have to try it out and let us know. I can't imagine it would brick the phone, but the keyboard layout is different, and the front camera thing. However, you might look for the latest Kaiser ROM from HTC then apply all the cabs you want and see if that works for you. I installed the ATT ROM, then did a soft reset before the apps were loaded to save space and clutter, then installed just the cabs I prefer.
It's been almost a week now, and it is still working perfectly. I've installed almost 20 different cabs, it is running faster, and more stable than it ever has. I love my phone now. The difference is stunning. I haven't had any issues thus far, and I've never experienced that before. I hit a button and it works, I touch the screen it works. I'm going off about it so much because I want everyone to know this phone is not a lost cause. I'm still a little in shock how well it works. I had written it off, and thought between HTC, and Microsoft that this phone was just going to remain a glitchy pain in the rear. My phone was so difficult to use that I almost stopped texting all together. I was practically marking off each day on the calendar waiting for the remaining year of my contract to run out.
Dustin
Hi all..
my keyboard also hard to be pressed (X,B,N and fn key),other keys are perfect (easy to be pressed)..
im wondering why did that happen..
im using WM6.1 official for TyTN II,,so nothing is cooked..
anyone knows how to fix this issue?
cause it's so annoying to press thoses button hardly..sigh..
thank you..
berramm2001 said:
Hi all..
my keyboard also hard to be pressed (X,B,N and fn key),other keys are perfect (easy to be pressed)..
im wondering why did that happen..
im using WM6.1 official for TyTN II,,so nothing is cooked..
anyone knows how to fix this issue?
cause it's so annoying to press thoses button hardly..sigh..
thank you..
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i actually followed the link from dustintm...
but the download was not for my area (i'm in singapore)
and you can't download it anyways...
you need to key in your serial number...
and it has to match the region...
so if that really fixed the keyboard problem...
congrats to those guys in the same region as dustintm...
as for why it happened, i also don't know...
i read in some other thread that it's unlikely if it's dust or the rubber...
i also think it has to do with the ROM, since some days my 'a' keys works fine...
Asian TyTN II ROM
Hey Jonathan,
Here is the link to the HTC Asia download page for the TyTN II:
http://www.htc.com/au/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=13&act=sd&cat=all
Just so everyone knows, this ROM change I am talking about does not fix hardware related issues. I still have a testy "y" key, it works most of the time, but I do have to press it harder at times.
Prior to my find, I was having massive keyboard problems, sluggishness, having to press each key multiple times, etc. I was also having similar problems with the touch screen too.
This will not fix a hardware issue (obviously?). But I've found the new factory ROM has made my phone operate almost without flaw... for the first time. Responsive, stable and consistent. I can deal with the "y", I couldn't deal the snetacnes loking lik tihs (sentances looking like this (all the time)), and all the other problems/lock ups, etc.
Dustin
Keyboard problems sound like a hardware issue. You should try to find a local cellphone store that does repairs.
There is one in L.A. that can fix this for under $50.
Keyboard Problems
I found that I was experiencing hardware (keyboard), AND software related issues (keyboard, touch screen, sluggishness, and lock-ups). After installing this ROM all software issues have disappeared. I am very certain of this. One example is that occasionally the keyboard would work almost flawlessly (with the exception of the y key) and other times it was a complete struggle, multiple keypresses to register once, delay, etc. That made it clear to me that I was having software related issues.
I imagine it could have been ROM issues, or software related conflicts, but either way, I have solved my problems. I flashed to the latest HTC ATT Tilt ROM, and the following programs/cabs:
HTC Enchasements
HTC Audio Manager 2.0
herg62123 FSP, DShow, WMP Yo...
HTC Album 2.0
Google Maps
XDA-SPC-Noonski HTC YouTube
herg62123 2DManila_1_20_19131...
Customization Customize_Tool
snctln M2DC
C. Ghisler & Co. Total Commander
Debarron Manila2D v20N2A Patch
Windows Live 10.6.0034.0800 (Fixed)
waku WkTASK
AT&T Navigator
XDA-Team Opal Volume Control
Systweak Inc Reg Cleaner
SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D
Massimo Colored Top Bar
ELF Calculator Skin
The EquinoXe Wizard ReTOUCHed...
JUVS HTC Enlarge Start Menu
HTC WMP Touch Skin
Moble Software Design, LLC FreeCaddie
J.S. Advanced Configuration Tool 3.2
Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
XDA-Team NEW M2D
Dustin
BTW Trjons thanks for your post.
be a hero post all your cabs or links
So, it is heresy you speak! Stock rom! Yeah, I too am sick of the laggy unreliable roms. WAY too much wasted time, energy and effort. Gone back to ATT even though on TMO. How about posting your cabs or links for the lazy ones of us out here?
davewaave said:
So, it is heresy you speak! Stock rom! Yeah, I too am sick of the laggy unreliable roms. WAY too much wasted time, energy and effort. Gone back to ATT even though on TMO. How about posting your cabs or links for the lazy ones of us out here?
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Also, did you get rid of the AT&T bloatware on yours as well? On a quest for the perfect ROM myself, so I will keep watching the thread for more info.
Would like to see those links as well.
If you want to leave out the ATT bloat ware, after you go through the screen align, do a reset. It will fail to run the script for the **** add ons and then you have basically a virgin rom.
Cab files
Hey lazy people ! Here's a link to all my cabs:
http://rapidshare.com/files/239391014/Cab_Files.rar
I'm somewhat lazy too, so you're going to have to download all of them then pick through to get the ones you want. Enjoy!
Dustin
Thanks
Your're a hero! Thanks for the cabs
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHOA! Virus detected "win32/virut" after extracting file then accessing folder with "glossy black bars.exe"
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully I've removed the infected file.
I didn't know glossyblackbars.exe had a virus???
Don't need it anyway, I deleted it, recompressed the cab files and re-upped to rapidshare. I edited all my posts with the new zip link.
Please let me know if it's virus free now... so sorry!
Dustin
Thanks so much, Dustin!!! I think I will be loading the AT&T 6.1 ROM again, following your fixes, and praying that my 2-PC ActiveSync problem somehow gets resolved along the way, too. (We need a "crossing fingers" smilie! HA!)
I'm just not looking forward to setting my Tilt up all over again. Must wait until I'm in the mood.
Dustintm said:
I didn't know glossyblackbars.exe had a virus???
Don't need it anyway, I deleted it, recompressed the cab files and re-upped to rapidshare. I edited all my posts with the new zip link.
Please let me know if it's virus free now... so sorry!
Dustin
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touchflo ain't working anymore i just get a message of 'tape here to launch touchflo' and if i tap it says luanching touchflo for about 5 sec and then it switches back to 'tap here to luanch touchflo'
i can still run htc home.
it happenend after installing a skin ''pcarvalho TF2D Digital Clock.cab''
even if i try to install a new skin with m2dc nothing happens.
so the question is how do i get touchflo to work again????
i fixed it already by just deleting the skin
Me also facing the almost same prob here..but after 'tap' about 5 sec touchflow theme come back alive..the problem is it happen everytime. it almost like every 2 hour once. FYI I'm using standard ROM provided HTC website..hehe..
I too had this problem recently. It happened when I installed my backup settings from M2DC after flashing a new ROM. The new ROM had a more up to date vertion of M2D in it, so I can only assume that is causing the issue.
It only happens when I try and restore an old settings file, not when I change icons etc - so does that mean it's the xml....?
I'm facing the same problem everything is completely fine until i restore my backup .. well i'm using the htc rom also that the htc home runs fine on it...
Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE
what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO
Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.
oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps
joseph.sapri said:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260
Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.
yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha
sorry double post again..
Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
mukhan said:
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1
Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.
After I've upgraded my TD2 to Win 6.5 mobile with the official rom, I realised that everytime I wake up my phone from stand by or go back from dialer and some menu windows; the flip clock flips from 1 hour 1 minute past to the original time. e.g. if the time is 19:25; when I wake up from stand by I see 18:24 and then clock flips to 19:25 immediately.
Not a big issue but could not get used to.
Any solution to this would be great?
Thanks,
I agree with you. It's annoying. I often just turn on the phone to check the time and it's not automatic. I have to wait until it quits flipping.
Yeah i agree, its bloody annoying. Anyone know a way to stop it?
There's a tool for the touch HD, called manilla tweaker or something like that, that does that, but I can no longer find it. I agree completely: it's very annoying
Hi,
I have the same problem. If someone knows the tool to adjust this I would be very happy.
thank you
regards
Andre
I'm in the same boat.
Just plain OEM WinMob 6.5 from HTC. Nothing added at all.
I get that annoying clock flip. Its annoying. I thought it was the DAYLIGHT saving being applied and also simply the minutes being refreshed. Perhaps I just thought this to save myself from going mad..... but it's annoying :'(
Upgrade your rom to duttys, I did this tonight. Much improved.
hmm i was thinking of flashing dutty's rom...but reading the many postings of bugs scared me away.
TESS 3.7 or later also fixed this
I suffered the same problem with the official ROM, and many more besides.
I have gone back to using the Topaz Essentials (TESS) version 3.7. It's very close to stock but with none of the issues. It's very fast and very good with the memory mangement so i would reccommend it anytime.
By the way, in a working ROM what is supposed to happen is the active weather screen gets re-activated, the official ROM has a bug that instead flips the clock.
I'm hoping that Microsoft & HTC keep on the ball with all of these and release a series of fixes ASAP.
Cheers, Rob.
So any update on this? So friggen annoying
Use This tool it will stop the unnecessarily flipping
If you google "flip clock fix" within the forum you will get at least a couple of interesting threads talking about this totally useless "feature". Anyway note that many cooks have fixed this in their respective ROMs, included the one in my signature (available also in english)
@ munrobasher: I'm afraid that nor MS nor HTC won't move a finger about it, thinking it's a cool effect
I've used this program for both Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2 running original HTC Win 6.5 rom and it works great...
Just install Cookies home tab 2.It helps very good with that problem
I flashed my rom to 6.5 and then installed TF3HDB3 it worked fine. Then their was this app I installed that needed NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm(The app was supposed to make TouchFlo have transparent top and Bottom bar) from their everything when downhill. I restarted my phone then I get this message saying shake .exe not working or some bull sh!t like that and now TochFlo wont launch So I uninstalled TF3HDB3, the app thats supposed to make the top and bottom bar transparent, and NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm and now when I install it to the phone memory I keep getting TouchFlo can't install try a different location, problem is it has to be installed to the phone memory to work. I tried the memory card it works but that dosent help one bit. Please can someone help me out, Does anybody know why I can't install it to my phone memory anymore????, I hate titanium it's a freakin joke compared to TF3HDB3.Edit the app I was using to make the top and bottom bar transparent was MaxTF3D Theme Maker v4.1.
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I tried TFL3DB2 and itje full HD manilla CAB and they both installed correctly. Like what I had before, I installed Rostrain crystal touchx edition theme along with W7-TF3D icons cab. I posted pics to show what happen every time for both versions of TouchFlo HD 3D. On top of that after I uninstall crystal touchx and the W7-TF3D icons niether TouchFlo HD3D version will run again so have to uninstall them. I can't be the only person this has happen to, Please I know their is someone out their that Knows Something .
Why do i even bother even posting help threads this has to be the third thread I made where a 100+ people veiwed and not one tip or suggestion. sigh...... I miss motorolafans.com the days when I post a thread for help and get a response in the next 30 min to an hour not for 4-5 days later with 100+ people veiwed and get ABOUSTLEY NOTHING. Either my problems are so mind boggling that not one person out of the couple thousand people here has a "suggestion" or people really don't give sh!t on this site. My next smart phone is Defiantly going to be Motorola again.
Well dear... you got a very special problem:
TF3DB2 is a very old cabbed version of touch flo 3d from the htc touch hd. that was never build to run on winmob 6.5.
But I see that you've already learnt how to flash a rom. why don't you just choose a rom with build in touch flot from htc topaz/rhodium oder even htc hd2? they'll run a lot faste, have a lot more functions and are very stable.
good luck!
TheNicoT said:
Well dear... you got a very special problem:
TF3DB2 is a very old cabbed version of touch flo 3d from the htc touch hd. that was never build to run on winmob 6.5.
But I see that you've already learnt how to flash a rom. why don't you just choose a rom with build in touch flot from htc topaz/rhodium oder even htc hd2? they'll run a lot faste, have a lot more functions and are very stable.
good luck!
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Funny out of 127 views finally one person finally says TF3DB2/B3 dosen't work right with 6.5 now thats freakin hilarious. @ TheNicot thank you for being kind enough for sparing your time and giving me a suggestion. The problem is after a flash it takes about 1-2 days to restore everything including with a backup program. 2. I've also read that some roms have a restart problem where the phone restarts by itself and I havent experiance that yet with gtrab's Pure 6.5. The main reason why I wanted TouchFlo3D was because of the Transparency with the Crystal theme, The W7-TF3D icons( which probaly won't work with LEO 2.5 anyway), and the panoramic back ground which is out now for leo 2.5. What bugs me the most about all of this is I had TF3DHDB3 with Crystal theme and W7-TF3D icons working flawlessly for 3-4 days straight no problem whats so ever until I got greedy with MaxTTF3Dmaker 4.1 trying to make the top/bottom bar transparent to match the theme and in the end it completley ruined TF3DHD in my cell and now it's back to the drawing board all over again with flashing to another rom.