As much as I hate to spread about another speculative release date avega1027 said on page 11 of another thread:
"Well for the people that are waiting for the release it looks like it would be comming out 10-06-07, per http://mobilitytoday.com/news/att_re...es_change.html "
and FTA: "Our sources are telling us that some new Windows Mobile devices are on their way! Just got a new update this morning, the AT&T 8925 aka Tilt is has passed certification and it being released on October 5.
Also Blackjack WM6 will be ready on the 1st of Oct.
Motorola Q9 is now slated for launch 11/15 but we think this will be changing soon. Blackjack 2 is slated for an 11/12 release.."
Supposedly, mobility today's David Ciccone is usually a pretty credible source so maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel at last! Since it was so far down on another thread I figured i'd give it some attention. Thanks avega1027!
Who knows if it's right, but I'm excited to hear something from someone with sources rather than hearsay from an AT&T employee.
I have already given up on all these dates. I will just wait and not get excited about any more rumor dates.
Yeah, I agree... I'm getting really frustrated not to have any iron-clad word on it. But, since this was the first decent lead I've seen in quite a while I figured it's noteworthy.
already a thread for this and wasting space....
"Microsoft CEO Confirms Windows Mobile 6.5
Friday, 11:00 AM by Eric M. Zeman
Speaking at an event in Australia, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer mentioned that Windows Mobile 6.5 is part of the company's roadmap toward Windows Mobile 7. The existance of a version of Windows Mobile between 6.1 and 7 had not previously been discussed openly by Microsoft. Ballmer did not provide any details about the new version of Windows Mobile and what features it would include, but he did indicate that devices will be running 6.5 starting some time in 2009."
http://www.phonescoop.com/ <~~~ A VERY informative site i wanted to share with the xda community.
"Sometime in 2009" hmmm i smell next spring
Hmm is that good news? Weren't we initially suppose to already have WM7 by then?
kilrah said:
Hmm is that good news? Weren't we initially suppose to already have WM7 by then?
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Here we go again from Micro$oft.
LOOK EVERYONE WE ARE COMING OUT WITH MS 6.5 IN THE SPRING
read: ( only because we were supposed to have wm7 completed by then , but we are so freakin behind, we figured we had to throw you a bone,)
Didn't we Tilts just go through salivating over 6.1 for most of a year, for what?, threaded texts and built in Voice Commander ?
Wa-hoo , I was so thrilled I just got around to upgrading my Tilt last weekend.
Can't wait to see what ground breaking technology 6.5 has.
I found first information about new version of Windows Mobile 6.5 here. Where I can download this for my Diamond?
I dont think its out... read up om it more come sout 2009.
Just a fake, signal andd battery are in differents places on images...
This is good design even if fake
Real or fake?
Even if it is real, I wouldn't hold your breath! Microsoft said WM7 would be out Q1 2009... I don't think we'll see it until 2010 at the earliest. If WM7 was anything like ready, would they be wasting their time with another minor update to WM6? Draw your own conclusions on that one!
sign..
i would hope they could rush it out in conjunction with the windows 7 release in Q4 2009
grahamkdt said:
Even if it is real, I wouldn't hold your breath! Microsoft said WM7 would be out Q1 2009... I don't think we'll see it until 2010 at the earliest. If WM7 was anything like ready, would they be wasting their time with another minor update to WM6? Draw your own conclusions on that one!
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This is not about WM7, it's about WM 6.5!
So even if WM7 comes in 2010 at the earliest, the WM6.5 this pics and thread are refering to may be released in 2009.
Confirmed!
WM 6.5 is a middle step between 6.1 and version 7. Windows Mobile 7 is set for the third quarter 2010 according to an article in IDG.
Swedish article below.
http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.191169/windows-mobile-65-snart-klar-att-slappas
Only a step in the right direction - i want a leap
The new Windows Mobile needs to be slick, considered and intuitive like a good flash wedsite interface or the new look of xbox live
http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/live/nxe/default.htm
because anything less would be laughed at.
just a thought.
mac icons??
haha nobody realised the icons are from mac --- if this is real then microsoft is definately feeling a bit left out in the sueing game
It looks like you'll barely have time to get the wrapper off Windows Mobile 6.5 before Windows Mobile 7 will move in to replace it.
Yesterday, at a "strategic update meeting," Microsoft Chief Steve Ballmer said the company will release Windows Mobile 7 -- Microsoft's OS for smart phones -- in 2010. That statement is a little surprising when you consider Microsoft just last week introduced Windows Mobile 6.5, which isn't slated to ship until later this year.
With Windows Mobile 7 coming out so soon, some people may just forget about Mobile 6.5 altogether and wait for the more advanced system. This is particularly problematic for Microsoft, since it's already clear that Windows 6.0 and 6.1 device owners won't be able to run Mobile 6.5. So if Mobile 7 is also going to require a new device, then why not wait a few more months for the newer system?
However, rushing through to Mobile 7 may be Microsoft's attempt to overtake its competitors by offering two significant platform releases relatively close together. Ballmer sees the smart phone market as one of Microsoft's biggest areas for expansion in the coming months, despite the economic downturn. He said the company is investing heavily in that area as Windows and Windows Mobile continue to share technology. Ballmer said he also looks forward to the day when the two systems are based on the same central components. At that point, the lines will truly be blurred between the smart phone and the PC, and that's where Ballmer says Microsoft is headed.
Nevertheless, Microsoft's chief confirmed the company will not release its own phone. "It's our strategy to sell software that we can use and support across a wide range of device manufacturers to encourage choice... in devices [and]...in the operators," Ballmer said.
Ballmer didn't provide any details about what Windows Mobile 7 would look like or what it could do that would warrant such a quick release, but you can bet it will be tied very closely to its desktop cousin Windows 7.
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Interesting reading
Microsoft and HTC both agree on XDA-Developers "We can't live with 'em and we can't live without 'em
According to tweakers.net (dutch), a very popular and more important, trustworthy Dutch IT website.http://forum.xda-developers.com/
XDA-Developers breaches intellectual property laws regarding ROM Cooking.
However Microsoft and HTC both agree "We can't live with 'em and we can't live without 'em."
Microsoft will not send take down orders to sites such as XDA-Developers, who offer customized ROMs for windows-mobile telephone.
Some sites offering ROMs based on Windows Mobile 6.5 got take down orders last week. They, However, appeared to be hoax.
“Taking action against sites such as XDA-Developers isn’t a matter of concern for Microsoft” says Maarten Sonneveld of Microsoft Netherlands against tweakers.net. “What happens there, the modifying of ROMs, is illegal. The intellectual property however is not with us. The ROMs are intellectual property of the producers of the phone or the mobile phone providers if it concerns branded telephones. We simple only deliver the OS.”
The biggest producer of Windows Mobile-phones, HTC, also says they don’t have any plans to take action against ROM sites. “What happens there isn’t allowed” says HTC Benelux-CEO Mark Moons,
“But XDA-Developers is the biggest and most active community of Windows Mobile-developers. We can’t live with ‘em and we can’t live without ‘em.”
Last week it seemed there were to come an end to tolerating Windows Mobile-communities.
A certain ‘James Young’ sent emails on behalf of Microsoft to site managers in which he stated that they were sharing illegal content, and summoned them to stop their practices; some site managers, in fact, did this.
It mostly concerned ROMs with betas of Windows Mobile 6.5, the update of Microsoft’s Mobile OS that should appear this summer
Haha nice one
Nice, but doesn't come much as a surprise. This community is the only reason Windows Mobile is still competitive. And Microsoft knows it. Besides that, why should they bother? Other than on the desktop PC, the phone hardware is quite limited without proper drivers WM won't run on phones which weren't supposed to run it in the first place. So Microsoft sold their license, HTC (or any other manufacturer) bought it and end of story. They have absolutly no disadvantage when ppl start cooking ROMs - in the contrary. I can't even begin to image using my X1 or any other WM-phone without the customization options presented here. Without them, I wouldn't have bought another WM-phone and become a WM-fan ... ;-)
Read this on tweakers.net yesterday, don't know if we should be happy about this statement.
But it seems xda-developers is going to be watched carefully by MS and HTC, probably has been already.
Until the take serious actions against this community I'm going to flash my X1 with Touch-IT ROMs as many as possible
I would say Microsoft and HTC is the winners here. The ROM cooking means more people is attracted to the platform and for me the reason I bough the X1 was this community.
Rather than moaning, HTC and Microsoft should make donations to XDADevs because this community is one of the main reasons why both of them rose to unforeseen heights.
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Rather than moaning, HTC and Microsoft should make donations to XDADevs because this community is one of the main reasons why both of them rose to unforeseen heights.
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Totally agree with u lolz
E90 Commie said:
I would say Microsoft and HTC is the winners here. The ROM cooking means more people is attracted to the platform and for me the reason I bough the X1 was this community.
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+1
i bought my htc wizard and SE x1 because of xda-developers.if they shut rom sites down i ll never buy windows mobile device that's for sure.my phone is my home so i ll decide how will i decorate my home not microsoft.cheers
Yeah i've read that also (im dutch and visit that site 3 times a day or so )
I think that htc says "MAKE NICE ROMS XDA, or else we will.....)
I'll add my 2 pennies worth...
I'm not a cook, though I sorely wish I were! However, thanks to XDA developers, I've had WM phones for the past 5 years, up until Blue Angel I *only* would have Nokia phones, but I was given the Blue Angel as a present and hated it. I then accidentally found XDA when I was going to sell the Blue Angel and was looking for a way to unlock the sim. Figuring I had nothing to lose as I hated the phone anyway, I put a new rom on and fell in love! Since then, I've had every HTC phone and just recently went to the Xperia *ONLY* because of this website. If XDA wasn't here, I would have gotten the N96 or a Blackberry.
So, for what it is worth MS and HTC if you're reading... Leave XDA alone, support it where you can, and be happy for the generosity of this community for making the product you produce better and more usable!
the only reason I got rid of my Omina and went back to a HTC made pda was because of the support and options that I can find here, good move from microsoft however I suspect microsoft as always turned a blind eye to a degree (remember the fpt problems?)
Cool. This is a pretty big community of developers.
James Joung lives here in my neighbourhood
Now I understand why he has spent the whole week laughing
Well,
if it wern't for XDA developers, when I got my Orange c500 (Back in the day) that would have been the last WM phone I bought.
Since then ive had:
Orange c550
Orance c600
MDA Vario
HTC TYTN
HTC Touch Diamond
Sony Xperia X1
goes to show the value of XDA... if anything, I think Microsoft, HTC etc should jump on the band wagon and help chefs get the best out of WM, or at least, some kind of formal agreement should be attained to help protect the community
can't live without them(xda),hehe.. htc and microsoft should donate to support xda !
gtrab said:
James Joung lives here in my neighbourhood
Now I understand why he has spent the whole week laughing
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Maybe he was laughing because his CEO, told him that if he will try to touch this site, he will have to fill up for unemployment... This site have 41,159 members (ONLY ) and allmost all of us, we own between 2-4 HTC pda phones. If HTC will loose us, I guess that they will show the middle finger to Microsoft and they will stick with Android from the time on...
To be honest in that perverse way MS has BENEFITTED from 'Piracy' etc. throughout their history. Take Office for example - way back in the day Lotus and Wordperfect were the dominant market forces. MS were trying to force their way into the market wth their Office products. In the end they blew away the competition - how? Because their media had no copy protection - thus Office Workers ended up getting copies from work to put on their home PCs to carry on extra work at home. The others had copy protection.
MS turned a blind eye to this because they knew that the more people had Office, the more they would want it in their workplace - so much so that in the end how many companies use those products anymore? Now that they are the dominant force, Piracy is an issue.
It is the same with sites like XDA-Devs. The mobile phone market is huge and will get bigger even in these times. WinMo is still a small part of that market - Nokia and Symbian undoubtably have an edge here. However people are becoming more savvy about mobiles and want more from them which is where MS, RIM, and Apple come in (with an improving Symbian).
However if all the consumers had to rely on was 'Stock' ROMs and buggy WinMo (esp. when consumers will compare it to the iPhone etc.) then WinMo would have nowehere near the amount of consumers, and would die a slow death. However thanks to XDA-Devs (and sites like these) we can buy these phones confident that some super talented Cook will provide us with a ROM that will get us the full experience of these devices. Hence we will then buy the next generation, then the next etc.
MS and HTC know this - hence why they can't 'live without 'em'. No point cutting off your nose to spite your face eh?....
@itje
after reading the good news.. please bring back your Touch-IT WM 6.5 project rom.. hehe =)
damskie said:
@itje
after reading the good news.. please bring back your Touch-IT WM 6.5 project rom.. hehe =)
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He just did, and posted the new ROM for download.
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