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Turn TouchFlo 3D on and off?!

I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.

It is possible to toggle between spb mobile 2 screens and touchflo 3d though.

Kill Manila.exe
Has anybody come up with an automated(one click) way of killing the Manila.exe process ?

Mortscript
Create a script with Mortscript to check for the presence of manila.exe.
If not present, start it.
If present, kill it.
Create a shortcut to the script in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Assign this shortcut to button 1.

Simon D said:
I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
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thought thats called SecondToday?

ToggleManila.mscr
I have the same problem, that I want to turn on TouchFlo 3D, but still want to keep my "Classic" Today Screen intact.
Although I tried SecondToday, however it cannot display the internal plugins such as Tasks, Calendar and Date
Thanks to wensing's suggestion, I created this simple script. If you want to run the script, please follow the instructions below.
a) The first thing you need to do is to disable the TouchFLO 3D from Today Panel Plugins, then activate your favourite Today Plugins (except TF3D)
b) Install MortScript
c) Put the "ToggleManila.mscr" in any folder you prefer.
d) Create a shortcut to this script, name it (eg. ToggleToday.lnk) and put the shortcut inside the folder "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs".
e) Go to Settings->Buttons, and simply assign "Button 1(Hold)" to point to the ToggleToday shortcut.
Of course you are free to experiment with other settings or assign it any other buttons.
Another thing to note is, because TF3D will "take over" the Home hardware button, I have no choice but to kill it, so that the classic Today Screen can be activated after TF3D is killed. However this also means the next time you activate TF3D, it will take some time to load. So please be patient and wait for the TF3D while it is loading.
Anyway, this is my first attempt at using MortScript, just a simple piece of work, but hope that I can bring some joy to my fellow Diamond users.
Hope that it works for you guys

Thanks Wensing
The mortscript suggestion works perfectly.

I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?

when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?

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oldhouse said:
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
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Have u tried to uncheck TF3D from Settings->Today->Items before launching the mortscript?

podman2004 said:
when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
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So far, I am using Settings->Buttons and I assign "ToggleManila" to Button1(Hold). By default this may have been assigned to other programs such as Voice Commander etc. Just replace it with "ToggleManila".
I am not familiar with other more advance programs that allow u to assign it to the other hard buttons, so I am sorry I can't advice u on that.
By the way, u might have to create a shortcut that points to the actual file where u place the ToggleManila.mscr, and then u put this shortcut (I simply name it ToggleManila.lnk) inside Windows->Start Menu->Programs before u can select "ToggleManila".
See if it works.

This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.

Davey101 said:
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
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i second this statement. tried it and works great for me on the touch pro

Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..

charly_mx said:
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
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I'm using Dutty's Diamond v1.8 (full) and used to have speed problems when launching applications, particularly after using the audio player.
TF3D is alright but it doesn't actually do anything that special. The weather screen is pretty but most of the other screens are useless, especially the horribly limited 'favourite contacts'. Now that I've got used to the standard windows today screen I prefer it.
I'm looking forward to trying out Schap's TouchXperience though!

that's work very nice
now we must wait for TFL3D tasks and who knows how this thing will be

this works great with the manila2D with the touch. One question though. The script kills the manila2D very quickly, but it does take several seconds for it to run it; any way of speeding that up?

thanks for the script
work very well

thanks for the script. great work

As Leekg has mentioned you can use TF3D and SPB Shell together.
I have left TF3D as it is and installed the SPB Shell as well. On the home screen have reprogrammed one of the Soft keys to SPB Menu -- touching that takes me to the Shell. Closing it brings me back to TF3D!
I do have a question though -- is there any way of changing the default msic player to windows media?

Who uses Touchflo and who uses HTC Home?

I am pretty new to Touchflo and am wondering who is using (and enjoying) touchflo, and who still uses HTC home. I remembered reading somewhere that some people uninstalled touchflo and kept with HTC home. I want to see everyone is doing before i get fully on board. Also, if you use another option I didn't list, put in a comment and i can add it to the poll.

While we are on the subject what HTC Home VGA does everyone use? I have tried the PJ HTC Home VGA but has issues with weather...

Damned!
It's hard to live without the touch flo !
We expected it for a long time .....
Its really cute but less productive ....... not unfortunatly as deep thinked than the iphone UI (if we need an exemple)
BTW i can't live without ! everytime i put it off my raph feels naked !

Once i got my hand on SPB Shell, Everything is faster and easier to access. No look back to TF3D here. The interface of spb shell is just beautiful and straight forward. I can run both lunchers side by side but I don't see the need. Fuze's battery life is very good on spb shell tho some reports said it drained battery life especially when run together with TF3D. Well.. my battery last almost 2 days with moderate use with spb shell ( with advanced config max power saver setting and manually switch between 3G and GRPS when needed. So, No compliant at all. )
Just did quite tough battery life test today. Talked on the phone for more than an hr. Missed a few calls. Did some text messaging and checked voice mails. Heavily surf on net using 3G and GRPS. Turn on and off different applications especially the browers/ calenda/ games/ online games... let data connection stay on... 25% left after about a 9-10 hrs day.

At0mAng said:
While we are on the subject what HTC Home VGA does everyone use? I have tried the PJ HTC Home VGA but has issues with weather...
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I'm using HTC Home, the one I'm using though is a custom one...I combined two installs that were originally seperate and changed the default clock to one I converted to VGA.

another for for HTC Home.. just enough info at your fingertips and doesn't make the phone drag a$$

Was running everything out of phoneAlarm using a full-screen skin that gave me access to literally everything I need from speed dial with photos to weather, app shortcuts, profile control...
Changed to running SBSH Pcoket Breeze in no tabs mode on the bottom 2/3 of my today screen with a different phoneAlarm screen above. The no-tabs mode allows me to swipe the PocketBreeze area of the screen to change to different tabs. The attached screen capture shows my schedule for the next several days with the weather forecasts for those days (colors indicate appointment category).

im too using htc home inside ultimate launcher everything just fine. just have to chang icon size in ultimate laucher to 98 or so

i've tried everything.. mobilematt fuzzberry, dirty wrap etc.. but disable TF3D and running spb pocket plus are still the best for me.. i packed it with pocketbreeze to maximize my appointments schedule.. the spb pp has everything.. batt indicator, shortcuts on Today with multi-tabs (categories) memory status, backlight adjustment, soft-reset... everythiingggg is on Today screen
with 2 taps, i can run any third-party programs i've installed including games, settings, silent mode, vibrate mode etc...
pocketbreeze is to manage my whole month schedule.. either meetings, site visits, dateline.. or family gathering events, birthdays, weddings,
no more touching and flowing.. LOL

HD port tf3d at the moment. But looking hard at the spb but hard to find good vga themes.

I actually don't use either. I use rlToday, which is a simple XML based homescreen.
Here is the version I made for the Samsung Epix.
The one I'm using now replaces the text below the clock with 4 big icons (SMS, Email, Missed Calls, and VM) with their respective counters.
So I still have the neat clock (not animated) and big buttons to get me to the needed app.
There is lots of room between the clock and the 4 bottom buttons... I was thinking of adding a Google Search bar or something... but I dunno.
I just like it because it is simple and displays what I need it to in an easy to read/access fashion.

Customize HTC Home?

Is there a way to customize HTC Home? Like, can I change the look of it at all? Also, is there a way to make it finger scrollable, and also D-Pad scrollable? I know in some of the ROMs it's somewhat D-pad scrollable, but it seems to never work right.
I'd like to lower HTC Home to near the bottom of the screen (like Manilla) and make it more scrollable (like Manilla). I'd also like to customize the graphics, and possible add/remove icons.
Is there any way to do any of this? I know people are putting a ton of time into customizeng Manilla, but I would rather use HTC Home because of the whole landscape support thing.

Try Advance Config
Go here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470370
Scroll down to post #2 then download System Tools Cabs
It's a Zip file with all the system tools, and Advance Configuration is in there.
Once you install AC, run it, scroll to HTC home and unlock its position. This will enable it to scroll though, so if you have too many things on the home screen, the scroll bar will be on top of your htc home, make it looks ugly ~ but if you don't mind then try it out

finger scrollable?!!! You can use the Dpad, just press up or down untill one of the tap icon was selected, then press left or right to flip trough those taps... HTC Home is design to be light and fast ~ if you want all the complex M2D functions might as well just use M2D ~ sacrifice the buggy landscape mode.

-post removed- rant was here before(might come back) but im not sure what you mean. Do you mean by customizing HTC home changing the clock, tabs, etc.?

Well I was initially trying to make HTC Home look nicer- like M2D, and make it finger scrollable like M2D. I have since installed SPB Mobile Shell, and I no longer care about HTC Home.
I was just fed up with M2D and it's sluggish, buggy, no landscape, performance. M2D is nice to look at, and it is finger friendly as well. So I wanted to combine its looks, and its finger friendly operation, with the snappy performance and stability of HTC Home.
SPB Mobile Shell seems to do all of that, and plenty more...

well I found this http://www.touch-commander.com/

kaiserII101 said:
well I found this http://www.touch-commander.com/
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Looks retty nice. Similar to SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
Looks to be a little cheaper than Mobile Shell.

Can I add extra things to the home screen?

I could add extra things to the MS Today screen, can I do the same for the Flo3D home screen? All I have is Call History and Calendar, can't I change this? I only seem to be able to change the tabs at the bottom a bit.

Has anyone found a way to insert other things (links,icons...) to the home screen? Or to take away the calendar/call history links?

Just turn off TF3D, it's a completely useless memory, battery and resource hog anyway. Then put TodayAgenda on your Today screen, it's the best thing since sliced bread. :O)

Any screenshot or preview for TodayAgenda?

Look for Manilla Today Page. It adds another tab to TF3D which functions as a virtual Today screen. This gives you all the beauty of TF3D plus alot of the Today screen functionality.
Sadly it doesn't support all Today screen plugins (I miss PocketPlus desperately), but it is an excellent 'best of both worlds' solution.
The other way is to try SecondTodayScreen. This does as it says and gives you a second Today screen so you can have TF3D running and still access another Today screen with all your plugins on it.

[REQ] Help with onkolog superlite and SPB

Hey guys,
I'm wondering who can help me, I have been testing Onkologs superlite ROM with SPB 3.5 and have a few things that I would like to alter.
1) With SPB installed the taskmanager drop down in the top right disappears, I've tried installing another taskmanager "Touchit taskmanager" and it didn't fix it. This bothers me much since I love to keep track of free RAM and programs and SPB taskmanager isn't as informative.
2) Bigger menus, I use my phone for music and Tomtom in my car whilst driving and these menus are a little too small to be safe whilst driving. (Miri size would be nice)
3) Icons in the start menu, they are also quite small and harder to navigate than rows of 3 which I much prefer.
I have contacted onkolog but was informed that they will not be developing winmo and no longer own a blackstone.
If anyone could adjust this ROM for these needs I will be willing to cough up $15 in cash (or $5 per issue), I love it that much for speed and free RAM but these niggles put me off using it permanently.
Failing that could anyone tell me what I need to do to make the adjustments and fix the taskmanager myself?
Failing that further suggest another ROM that is capable of all the things I mentioned and is just as clean.
Please don't suggest Miri as I already use an xtra light ROM that didn't even come with volume controls or HTC album, I added them in myself.
It's a wonderful ROM but using about 15% more RAM than onkolog.
Thanks in advance

spookamiester said:
Hey guys,
1) With SPB installed the taskmanager drop down in the top right disappears, I've tried installing another taskmanager "Touchit taskmanager" and it didn't fix it. This bothers me much since I love to keep track of free RAM and programs and SPB taskmanager isn't as informative.
2) Bigger menus, I use my phone for music and Tomtom in my car whilst driving and these menus are a little too small to be safe whilst driving. (Miri size would be nice)
3) Icons in the start menu, they are also quite small and harder to navigate than rows of 3 which I much prefer.
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1) Download WkTask - it's a much more functional alternative to a built-in one + works great with any kind of software + implementer Alt+Tab function like on PC.
2) Download Advanced Config 1.3 - with it you can change the amount of icons in a row in Start Menu (from 3 to 5) + you can increase the system bar and font size.
3) For information about your free RAM there is an app called BattClock.

Thanking you kindly
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1) Download WkTask - it's a much more functional alternative to a built-in one + works great with any kind of software + implementer Alt+Tab function like on PC.
2) Download Advanced Config 1.3 - with it you can change the amount of icons in a row in Start Menu (from 3 to 5) + you can increase the system bar and font size.
3) For information about your free RAM there is an app called BattClock.
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These seem like great solutions, thank you very much but will I still be able to run along side the Blue Lightening taskbar or will any of these over ride it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557816
Also will the Advanced config increase menus size, like the ones in messaging and things like that?

spookamiester said:
These seem like great solutions, thank you very much but will I still be able to run along side the Blue Lightening taskbar or will any of these over ride it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557816
Also will the Advanced config increase menus size, like the ones in messaging and things like that?
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No problem! WkTask won't have issues with any theme out there, cuz it's more of a text-based program without too much graphics.
Don't know about messaging, but it will increase pop-up menu size (like when tap-n-holding in File Explorer you get that thingy with options and with AC you'll be able to alter it's size e.c.)

Yesssss!
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No problem! WkTask won't have issues with any theme out there, cuz it's more of a text-based program without too much graphics.
Don't know about messaging, but it will increase pop-up menu size (like when tap-n-holding in File Explorer you get that thingy with options and with AC you'll be able to alter it's size e.c.)
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This sounds perfect, thank you so much.

After testing I just can't enjoy Batt clock or WKTask, I've tried every setting possible but it's just too fiddly and busy, so much extra stuff just to find out how much RAM I'm using and to switch programs. I ended up stripping them both down so much that I wasn't even using them.
The advanced config solution was great but more than anything I just want to be able to keep the standard or cloned version of the taskmanager with onkolog and SPB.
Definitely making progress towards the perfect ROM (in my eyes) atleast