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This phone is driving me nuts

This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
I synct some playlists to the phone with windows media player 10, suddenly all playlists on my diamond are empty.
When i removed all the playlists on windows media player 10 to sync them again, it deleted all my songs!
now i got all my songs onto the device again, and wanted to alter 1 playlist, it took windows media player 6 minutes, to just alter, replace, 1 pooping playlist!\
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
Half of the icons in the games folder are ****ed up, we already have a thread with solutions(i tried all of them), but none of them worked.
And the performance, even with the tlr rom or whatever the name was, the diamond still goes slow!
And the battery depletes quickly, with auto attach off, and incoming beam off.
Cant receive a file with bluetooth, with incoming beam on or off, it keeps saying my pc is a new device and asks if i want to set a password, no matter if i set a password or not, it goes back to the menu, and still says my pc is a new device
And i used a mod of the diamond tweaks thread, to auto lock my diamond when the screen goed off.
Well, 1/5 times, it autounlocks itself when i turn the screen back on. not good...
And finally, the opera browser is sometimes not doing what i want. sometimes goes to a random place on the page, if i move and let the stylus go, it moves back to that random page, to fix this i need to quit, then restart opera.
This happens about 1/5 times i use opera.
Is this where i payed 481 euro's for...?
Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.

borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
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Nothing to complain about the phone?

marco899 said:
Nothing to complain about the phone?
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what do you mean?
theres a whole list of bad things there.
btw: forgot to mention that the diamond stylus made some nasty scratches on the screen when wiping over the screen in opera to scroll page, or goto next photo in touchflo, ect.

Got a protector included for that.
Install a fresh rom, I don't have any of your problems.
I use bluetooth a lot:
Sending files (goes hell fast), don't want to use cable when using .cab files here
For my parrot
For use as a modem (have reached 120kbyte/second) when online with phone!
All flawless.
I have very very good results with HTC's own new rom update via e-club.
TLR nr. 2 was quite buggy at my phone.
GOod luck!

borgqueenx said:
This phone is making me like...crazy!
and this is why:
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Any ideas how to fix this sh!t is welcome, i already did a hard reset to try getting rid of some problems.
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Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine

czbird said:
Spare yourself next trouble to come and sell it, as I did with mine
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what have you got now may i ask?

Humbly returned to my previous P535.
I must admit that apart from Diamond, there is currently not many devices to choose from on the market... Was thinking about getting P750, but still unsure...
Xperia scares me, mainly because of the unusual screen resolution (dunno how all the apps will handle it) and that also is supposed to be made by HTC...
Maybe Diamond Pro will not suffer from these newborn diseases that my Diamond had - will see...

i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
the touch diamond really disappoints me...

borgqueenx said:
Its not possible to remove a playlist created in the touchflo music player itself.
Not able to select it and then delete it.
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Use the hardware buttons beneath the screen. You can navigate to the playlist you want to delete, and hold the 'enter' button to get the menu to get the 'right mouse button menu'.
Using your fingers it is impossible as it automatically selects the playlist if you press it. No menu will pop up.

borgqueenx said:
i think im going for the iphone 3g. will be expensive though...
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What do you mean? It will be much cheaper than the Diamond.
I wonder if you're expecting to install applications on that phone, or do any customization...

Mwahahahahahha!!!!
Another Winer! XD
I'd give this post 5/5 for creativity, 6/5 for whining and -1 for usefullness ^^
you can almost FEEEL that you joined only after buying the phone, and I'd guess that it's your first WM one..
Anyway, regarding your problems..
If your phone really is that bad, it's probably broken (pre-production, grey, some dimwit dropped it in the shop or any other reason). In any case, return it by warranty, and get a new one..
Having so many people love this phone, and being able to fix the issues.. and only you and a handful of others run around whining.. Surely it's obvious that it's either a lack of hands.dll or a simple hardware failure..
I mean you should be smart enough to grasp it.... ermm.. right?
Cheers
P.S. Oh, and please don't be offended by this post.. It was mainly inspired by your post anyway, but it was written half-jokingly as I couldn't really answer seriously to that amount of QQ

@ 205_laCoste...
You're my hero.
Had a lot of trouble removing two playlists, but using the hardware buttons solved it right away....
Thank You!

I'm ready to throw my diamond out the window, for pretty much the same reasons. I paid way too much money to have so many problems. And I shouldn't have to flash a new rom. It should be good to go out of the box.
Before I'm also accused of being a whiner, there is a plethora of posts of people having the same problems....with no solutions. The bluetooth issue is a biggie. I tweak my phone to enhance it, but I shouldn't have to be a programmer to simply make it function properly. To suggest that is just arrogant.
There are things that I absolutely love about this phone, but simply as a phone it sucks.

most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.

I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA

czbird said:
I have to stand up for nursie here. I've returned my diamond several months ago (yeah, it was driving me nuts) and am happily living with my P750... these offenses are absolutely not necessary and untrue as well as uncritically extolling the device - gee, it's just another PDA
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I have to agree, to an extent.
It's generally accepted on here that the Diamond is badly configured out of the box, which is why new users are recommended to flash a new ROM. This is not a good thing, although it's great we have such a good community of chefs to help solve the problem.
What's less well accepted is that much of the HTC software on the Diamond is slow and awkward. I'm talking about TF3D and the HTC dialer in particular, get rid of them and you can make the Diamond a great little phone just like your P750.

964rs777 said:
most of the time it is not the fault of the phone but the person
using it.
a lot of people have come here after having a normal phone and
dont understand how to use this one.
treat it more like a computer than a phone.you dont have to be
a programer you just have to know how to read a thread and
follow the directions.
if you have a 1.37 rom you need to upgrade it to a 1.93.
1.37 is crap.okay it shouldnt have been but it was that why
it was upgraded to 1.93.
if you still dont get it then sell the phone.go buy a fruit
phone and get ripped off just like all the other sheep out there.
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I upgraded to 1.93. And I'm quite proficient at reading and researching. I'm also very proficient with current technology. I get it. What you don't get is that a consumer spending big bucks on this phone shouldn't have to resort to advanced tweaks (which I understand, BTW...you won't find me here asking newbie questions) in order to bring the phone up to basic performing standards.
Again.....yours is a fine example of ignorance masking itself as arrogance.

Why i'm starting to dislike my Diamond

1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
7- no tasks on TF3D
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.

1. Like you say theres already lots of threads on this, with people complaining, then others saying they're having no issue, or to wait a bit and the battery gets into better condition
2. If display didnt activate people would moan about that too
3. Huh? A text wont send till youve entered a contact and you press Send
4. Then you must have a program using the connection like push mail or live messenger
5. True. Opera is still a beta version though so issues will be dealt with i guess
6. Maybe that's an issue with your rom, I've not seen this
7. Indeed - Annoying. I think this is seen as one of the least Important parts of Exchange so it often gets left out of things like this.

AntiProxy said:
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
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you can pick up diffrent ones, but remember that your diamond will gain pounds. try getting a new rom, the newer ones boost battery by 50%
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
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regedit, i don't know, someone here should maybe know
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
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the pressure of the screen could be set, try the diamond tweaks forum
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
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change the connection?
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
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takes some time to get used to, much better than other phones, but still yet not good enough, updates will be made.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
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didnt try that yet
7- no tasks on TF3D
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+1,000,000,000...
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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it's smarter than an iphone... but more complicated

AntiProxy said:
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
Agree
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
Agree
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
Not shore
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
Agree even whit No Data I have connection sometimes
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
Agree, the zoom function is nothing else as a unuseable function.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
Agree
7- no tasks on TF3D
TF3D is the biggest mistake in my opinion, but whit SPB mobile shell I started to like my diamond.
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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One off the favors of the Diamond is that you keep reading this forum just to find solutions.

AntiProxy said:
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
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Battery life does improve with time. It is lasting about 2 days for me now. I read that the 3G iPhone has a similar battery life. The Diamond is not bad, considering how much smaller it is, and the VGA screen.
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
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This will be a problem with all touchscreen phones, if you set it to answer on any key press. I must admit I keep my Diamond in my pocket without a case and haven't had this problem.
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
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Haven't had this problem, but then, my fingers are probably not as fat as yours
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
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Use CommManager to shut off the connection. I do this after I have finished with the connection. I don't mind it, and would actually find it annoying if the connection closed automatically after the program closes, as I usually use other programs which require a data connection straight after.
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
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Opera is a great browser, but the small screen is a limitation when you have to input anything. For just plain browsing though, it works really well
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
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Haven't had this happen to me.
7- no tasks on TF3D
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I actually gave up on TF3D and now use SPB Mobile Shell. This has been a revelation in how a touch system should be implemented. It is extremely responsive, easy to use, intuitive, and fully customisable. Also looks pretty with its own 3D effects. I think it compares very favourably with the iPhone interface.

To bad that you start to dislike it, anyway take a look here you might change your mind after that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMTEbbCKNc

lucasjohny said:
To bad that you start to dislike it, anyway take a look here you might change your mind after that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMTEbbCKNc
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this is cool... Any idea, beside second today, what else are in there? those that you slide from top to bottom and comm manager show up...
thx

sudsboy said:
this is cool... Any idea, beside second today, what else are in there? those that you slide from top to bottom and comm manager show up...
thx
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look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2451764

AntiProxy said:
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
7- no tasks on TF3D
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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Ever heard of the kitchen??
Read on punk!: LINK
Even more? LINK
More? Link

It is perfectly normal to feel like this, I actually use my HTc diamond mainly for sat nav and a back up phone. I also have the iphone 3g and it is a pain in the back. But I will keep persisting with both as they get better with updates.

apple_power said:
It is perfectly normal to feel like this, I actually use my HTc diamond mainly for sat nav and a back up phone. I also have the iphone 3g and it is a pain in the back. But I will keep persisting with both as they get better with updates.
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Interesting, I was thinking of doing a similar thing. As you have both and use both, how does the battery life compare? If you leave on all the 3g options on the iPhone, and likewise on the Diamond.?

lucasjohny said:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2451764
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thx. that looks really useful, i guess i'll have to install the same set. he he he

Bored with the diamond.
Will use it for parties and of course for navigation (got garmin running on it.. and it works well for that)
Have had a tough time using a phone other than the SE P series (owned them all and loved them all.. without the flip .. all of them look amazing)
Back to my SE p1i as my primary phone. Diamond - put in my other sim card.. the number I rarely use...
it's not bad.. it's just not...whatever.
I got it on an impulse.. loved the looks.. hated a few things. Found this forum and it definitely made the diamond more interesting and useable.
so thank you guys.
But.. SE has spoilt me. In between I had tried Nokias and Moto's as well. Also tried out I mates.. but just didn't do it for me. Had to come back to one of my SE P series eventually (800, 900, 910, 990 and now 1)
But......
still waiting for the xperia.. will definitely give that one a try too.
(just can't help myself)

1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
i dun have any problems... try to install comm manager.cab... disable wifi and beam if u have to on yer bluetooth..
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
yer keys are unlocked.. choose lock instead under windows mobile settings
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
use the compact qwerty.. big enough for fat fingers.. any larger wait for the touch pro to arrive
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
tts wad most peeps want rite.. use MOnaco's nodata.cab... u can disable and activate connections depending on when u want it.. do things manually is still the best.. esp when it concerns your bills
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
zoom in then login
i din really have such an issue
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
tts cuz the sim card saved wrongly the contact in the past..
7- no tasks on TF3D
task manager? or task as in the one that complements note?
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.

AntiProxy said:
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
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Give this baby a try
It has an option to "Slide for answer", so you have to "do da slide" like on iPhone to actually answer, so no rejected call will be ever
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
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huh, never seen it.
Did you tryed to upgrade your ROM?
This will boost the performance (as it have lates OS from HTC + TouchFlo3d speed patches and some garbage removed ^_^)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=430
AntiProxy said:
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
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Yeap, this could be a little bit harder, but at other hand you have Internet Explorer too )) Or even Opera Mini at hand.
Iphone does not have those kind of options, think of it ))
AntiProxy said:
7- no tasks on TF3D
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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I think this is a MUST HAVE (or TODO) feature for HTC, and i'm more than confident, that they will do it, in some later ROMs ))
So, things are not that bad as they seems ))
I can bet that most of your problems have to do with buggy ROM ))

Tilt no longer enjoys being touched.

So, i'm usually quiet on these forums. Just reading, trying roms, etc. But here is something that has me stumped. Last thursday my phone crapped out. When i woke up and looked at it (it was connected to my laptop/charging) Applications were opening left and right, i couldn't close any of them because stuff kept opening. I tried to soft reboot it and it didn't help. Once it rebooted stuff started opening itself at random again. I ended up pulling the SIM and battery out and leaving it for 5 minutes. When i put it back and powered it up the touch screen no longer worked, but apps weren't opening on their own.
What gives?
I have hard reset (which means it's waiting for me to touch the screen to setup my rom), i have also taken off the screen protector (in case it had something stuck under it. Neither of these things helped. Per the forums I got a new screen, just put it in, and the touch screen doesn't work still... I'm drawing a blank here can anyone give me some advice. Going back to my Prophet for the time being but I HATE not having a keyboard (and it's slower than molasses)

have you tried flashing a new rom via sd?

Check that the screen protector has not moved under the front bezel and keeps pressing your touchscreen.
Robert

I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...

Any other suggestions?

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I have totally removed the screen protector and even replaced the screen for that matter so I dont think that's it. I haven't tried flashing a new rom. I just found it odd that this has worked for so long and now I get what appears to be hardware problems. As for flashing Via SD memory, is that better than doing it via cable for some reason? I'd be willing to give it a go...
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Similar problem happened to my Kaiser phone, although no multiple files opened, the phone just won't react to any touching, not stylus pen either. So I first soft reset, then hard reset, none of them works, now the phone can Sync alright, but the screen just stands on the Window Mobile screen, saying "Tap the screen to set up your window mobile device"
I only have this new phone for <3 weeks.
I went to HTC site, want to download a latest ROM file from them, after typing in the S/N, it won't let me, saying that ROM is not suitable for my phone.
So now I am download ROM file from this site, will choose one to flash the phone, see whether it works.
I will call HTC tech support tomorrow after Thanksgiving, see what they suggest
Hope some gurus here can also make some suggestion, Thanks!

Well I replaced the LCD and the new LCD works great, but the screen still doesn't respond to touches. What gives?! I hard reset and I got past the windows screen alignment thing by creating a welcome.not file but it's still pretty much worthless w/o a touch screen. Anyone have any suggestions?

Whoa, i thought something odd was going on. Never mind i got entirely the wrong idea.

Ha, not the case.
Anyone know if a flex cable would fix my issue? I dont really know what the felx cable is for but i've seen posts about people replacing them w/ LCD problems. I don't know if it is touch screen related or not, and i'm kind of tired of buying parts that don't fix my problem

please just flash a new rom whch ever you want (for some reason i thought you said that it keeps restarting your device because if that was the case the only option you would have was to flash via sd as activesync would load long enough for you to get a connection to flash from the computer)..trust me just try it..what have you got to lose

I reflashed one yesterday actually. The newest HyperDragon (which is looks like a new one is available today) It wasn't rebooting but initially windows were popping open left and right so i restarted it a couple of times(which i first had the problem, not yesterday) Yesterday it worked like any normal rom w/o the ability to touch. Anywho, after the flash of a different rom. No luck. I'm thinking it's a hardware problem of some sort but as i've already replaced the LCD i have no idea what?

yah thats sounds funky..you can bring it in for a warranty exchange either at a local DSC or over the phone (that is if your with att) and if not call HTC..all devcies come with a 16 or 18 month warranty

Well I called ATT yesterday, apparently I purchased the phone On Oct 17th 2007 which means It's out of warranty (apparently it has a 12 month warranty?) So it sounds like I'm SOL. So, i guess I'm off to ebay to try and fine a phone that I can canibalize to try and get mine going again.

touch screen
this may sound dum but when you replaced the screen did you replace the touch part as this is different from the screen

Well I picked up this
http://www.blackberry8100parts.com/...B3-NEW-HTC-TyTN-II-KAISER-P4550-_p_35-70.html
which includes the digitizer (from what I know it's all one part when they send it to you) The screen has the digitizer built in. So i replaced the part they sent me.

I just stated having this issue. My touchscreen stopped responding to touches over the weekend while the keyboard was extended. I just took the phone apart to make sure everything was connected right & put it back together, & now the touchscreen doesn't work at all. This sucks!

Any news? i'm having the same problem: no response at all, stuck at "Tap the screen to set up Windows Mobile-based device"

An interesting problem with screen
well my tilt fell out of the car holster while using gps and i suspect the screen hit my gear shift. I didn't notice anything odd after i put the battery back in it (yeah it fell that hard lol). Later that night I went to check mail and noticed something not right. Turns out my screen seems to have been pushed in a bit. Well here's the issues I've noticed so far: All the touch responses seem fine except for 1) the screen alignment doesn't register taps, but otherwise the touchscreen works and 2) on the htc home screen, I can't tap the house icon unless I tap any other icon first.
Initially I thought there was some pressure or deformation right at that particular spot, but it reacts the exact same way in landscape mode. I can't tap the house icon first; I have to tap something else first, then the icon works fine until I open a program or something and go back to the home screen. Then I simply have to tap weather or something and then home.
I'd reflash the rom or do a hard reset, but the screen alignment didn't work when I tried it so I didn't want to get stuck at the "tap your screen to begin" part.
Any ideas or do I just need to buy another screen or maybe just the digitizer. the amount the screen seems recessed is maybe a millimeter at most. Just enough so that I noticed a difference when touching contacts just above the housing. I tried cleaning by using a business card and running between screen and housing. Ohh... and one more thing... when I open the cube and then close it, I get what I refer to a static frazzle for split second and it goes back to normal. That only happened a couple of times after the business card thing. Do you think I just loosened a connection? damn... I still haven't taken it apart yet. Think I need to. Any help appreciated.

If your screen does not work, you can still use your phone. There is an app that you use on your computer that acts as the touch screen. This also works when the screen craps out.
http://www.sparus-software.com/spip.php?page=download&lang=en&ref=at&t=tilt
(EveryWAN Remote Support Personal Edition - Free download)

yeah -- my touchscreen didn't crap out totally, it just got muffed up when I dropped it a bit. Well, i went ahead and installed codefreaks remote screen alignment thing and did a hard reset. Well, the hardreset did the trick w/out the need for anything else. The alignment worked and everything. So, i'm back in business. Everything seems to work properly, except that my screen is still recessed a tad; but, that's not a big deal really.

Screen-> Fade to White-> Temporarily

From what I've been able to find from searching, I think my Tilt is about to bite the dust, but thougth I'd post the symptoms and see if anyone has any good info.
My screen has been occasionally fading to white. Not sure how else to describe it. It just sort of starts getting white, and within 2-3 seconds will be completely white. It is still working, that is, I can place a call (using MS Voice Command); I can play music.
I have SPB Mobile Shell on it, and a button assigned to go to the home screen. I can press that, and it will go to the home screen and display normally. If it is a hardware problem, I find it interesting that I can go back to the main screen. I suspect it is close to gone.
Any thoughts?
If so, anyone know what it costs to repair, and where to do that?

Sounds like a software thing to me, I hate to say it but try a hard reset. Do you have a 6.5 rom?

I've been thinking of doing a hard reset anyway, My memory is about used up. I'm not quite sure why. Probably should get it cleaned up.
No, I'm not on 6.5. I've been reluctant to make the move. I did some rom updates some time ago, and then the person working it decided to stop. I decided to stay with MFGR based roms after that.

ewingr said:
I've been thinking of doing a hard reset anyway, My memory is about used up. I'm not quite sure why. Probably should get it cleaned up.
No, I'm not on 6.5. I've been reluctant to make the move. I did some rom updates some time ago, and then the person working it decided to stop. I decided to stay with MFGR based roms after that.
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Good thinking.

Likely NOT software but hardware -- could be the screen is going bad, or perhaps just the ribbon cable than connects the screen is broken or not seated properly.

burtcom said:
Likely NOT software but hardware -- could be the screen is going bad, or perhaps just the ribbon cable than connects the screen is broken or not seated properly.
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So the hardware problem is just scared of the button he has assigned?
I have SPB Mobile Shell on it, and a button assigned to go to the home screen. I can press that, and it will go to the home screen and display normally.
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Try putting the phone in the bootloader screen and let it sit there, that should let it go around the software.

Erm, yeah -- I guess that wouldn't be indicative of a hardware problem

Well, I am doing the hard reset. So far, no white.
Hmmm...lordy...I have a lot of stuff I try to put on this phone.
I wonder how much memory, both types, I need to keep available.

Don't put anything on the phone that you REALLY REALLY don't need. This is a taste phase and you need the least amount of BS on there.

Well, I've got most of what I need loaded, and have 61MB storage, and 63MB of Program memory free. Much better than before.
But I am still getting the fade to white occasionally.
I'm thinking hardware.
Anyone know if checking the 'ribbon' cable is user capable thing? I don't see it easily. I'll so some searching in the meantime.
Also, any feedback on cost and where for a new screen? Or do I just trash it when it finally goes?
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I am noticing that it particularly does it when I click the Windows (lower left) hard button on the front. I'm thinking it is related to a problem with that button.

Could be when you press that button you are flexing the cable enough to make it lose connection and go white -- this could be good news -- there are instructions scattered in this forum on how to take the phone apart. I'd recommend doing that and makeing sure the cable is firmly seated -- you should also inspect it for cracks.
Hopefully it's just a loose cable and making sure its in all the way will fix it -- if not you'll have to track down a new one.

Thanks. I'll do some searching for those instructions.
In the meantime, I called HTC just to get their thoughts on repair. First thing they told me was to upgrade the rom to the latest which is 3.57.502.2 .
I haven't been following ROM discussions. I need to check that out too. I wish I had seen or thought of that before I just spent a day with the hard reset/reinstall

did this get resolved?
I have the same issue. was it the ribbon cable?
update. I loaded a stock rom, and this appears to have solved the fade to white

Sorry...beeen away a bit.
I have not resolved the issue. It is intermittent, and hasn't happened for a few days now.
I searched and have found some instructions about taking the screen apart, but have not tackled that yet.
In my case I can't imagine changing roms making any difference, as I've had this rom for many months and it is just recently starting this.
I have found new LCD screens for this for ~ $30. I'm wondering if replacing the screen may be an ultimate solution or, if it is possible/likely that it is somethign else hardware related.
Been busy, and don't have the tools yet, so it may be a bit (or when it goes permanenly white forcing action) before I get any further on this.

It is definitely a hardware issue, my wife's tilt did the same thing, then it went permanent white. I first took it all apart looking for a bad ribbon cable or connection because it had taken a few good falls. But that was not it. So I bought a screen for about 30.00 online and shazam that was it!

Thanks for that info. I was thinking of ordering the screen, but concerned it could be something other than the screen (even though logically it would make sense that it is the screen.)

HELP!! my screen works....but it doesnt....

ok guys and gals, heres one for you. i know im a noob but this one has got me stumped and i cant for the life of me find anything in this or any forum or even google. i have the tilt. just flashed a cooked rom for the first time several weeks ago thanks to everyone on here and all the FAQs and stickies. (to any other noob, all the info is out there!!!!! dont be lazy!!! SEARCH AND READ YOUR HEART OUT!!!!) anyway, im running Witscheys latest 6.5 rom build 23071 HSPL 3.34 w/ radio 1.70.19.09. ive been tweakin it pretty much every day tryin to get it to the way i want.
well im so close to finishing and the the screen suddenly decided to randomly not respond to my touch. the buttons were the only way to control the phone. even after numerous soft resets. then it would decide to start responding. so i was doing some research and tried a couple diff methods of fixing "screen freezes" (but i dont think its a "screen freeze" as it worked fine with the use of the buttons) finally found a post in the thread for the room that read:
Originally Posted by cpala
Hi witschey,
I work with you rom a week a go, but sometimes the device screen freeze.
ugoff
Member
I had that same problem. Need to change the cache settings in Advanced Config. The filesystem cache defaults to 512kb, so I set it to auto and it doesn't freeze anymore. I also turned up the glyph cache to 32kb. Between the two, the phone interface runs fast and smooth.
so i tried that and it still didnt fix it. then i decided to just do a hard reset and install one app a day at a time (all the ones i had before the hard reset) to see if one of them was casing it. well after the hard reset i didnt notice the problem anymore. i was stoked. now all i needed to do was figure out which app was giving me trouble. WELL about 10 min later when i was texting my friends as usuall, my phone recieved a message but the screen was black. so i slid it open (wake on slide) and the screen turned on. replied to my buddy,closed the lid and the screen went black..... WTF? slid it open, screen on. closed, screen black.... and so forth. this is the way it has been since yesterday. even tried two more hard resets with no change.
NOW HERES THE WEIRD PART!!! if i slide it open JUST A LITTLE very slowly, the backlight turns on barely. just enuf to see the today screen but its very very dim. its as if there is a bad connection. but the screen is in portrait mode like it should be. if i open it fast the backlight turns on, screen shows portrait, then switches to landscape like it should. close it, it goes black but i know it switches back cuz the next time i open it, i can see it change again.
EVEN WEIRDER--- if open landscape, get into an app or program such as contacts where i can flick to scroll, ill close the lid, immediately flick the screen, open lid and low and behold my friends are just scrollin by!!!! the damn screen is responsive but there is no backlight!!! so to test i plugged into my laptop, activated mymobiler, and EVERYTHING works like it should when i touch the screen, use the buttons, open close the lid. it all shows up on my laptop. but the damn screen is still black when lid is closed. so i can literally look at my laptop and touch the black screen on my tilt and controll it!! WHY IS THE BACKLIGHT SHUTTING OFF WHEN ITS CLOSED!!!!???
so then i decided to tear the damn phone completely apart about 2 hours ago, check all connections, and clean all the dust. all connections checked out fine, put it back together and still have the problem. i know there is a magnet and sensor that tells the screen when to rotate when the screen is opened or closed but its obviously working cuz it will rotate the screen. my guess was that some kind of registry entry has been changed somehow. but then i realized thats not it because the hard resets didnt fix it. now im thinking hardware...... IM SO SORRY THIS POST IS SOOOOOO LOOOONNNNGGG but i dont know what else to do. phone was working great up until yesterday and i cant have this!!! has anyone had this problem with this or any other device or even know which direction to point me in??? PLEASE HELP!!! thanks in advance for any replies!!! the quicker ther better

I think your flat cable is broken. Doesn't make connection when closed (no backlight), barely connects when opened (backlight on).
So I think you need a new flat cable...

I agree with blueflame... I think it has nothing to do withthe rom flash.. it sounds like your ribbon cable is "Starting" to go.. unfortunatly it will only get worse where it wont; read you memory card, and evenutally your Sim card as well (speaking from experiance here).... If you are handy with tools, you can try to but a new one yourself and install it... But there are also some shops aroudnthe world, aswell and some members here who may be able to fix it for you... for a price (and not, I am not one of them)... Sorry for the bad news bud.. but I personally would rather knwo that than hard resettign 100 times and nrto beign able to figure out the problem...

hey. thanks for the fast replies! thats not exactly what i wanted to hear but like Teej said, its better to know than messing around with something else. now by flat cable are you reffering to the biggest ribbon cable inside the phone that connects the screen half of the phone to the keyboard half? Or the connector that comes directly out of the screen itself (meaning i buy a new screen and install and all is well) or is it another cable? but i think those are the only two that have anything to do with the screen other then the one for the sensor/magnet. here is a photo to help point out which ones. i have the manual so i can grab more photos if needed. thanks again for the help so far. good stuff. we are getting somewhere!!
photobucket.com/albums/b145/kewljay223/tilt.jpg

since im not allowed to post outside links yet, type this-----> h-t-t-p-:-/-/-i-1-8-. (minus the dashes between characters) in front of the link in my last post in your address bar to create the ACTUAL LINK and it should take you to the picture.