Database Develop

Just the Blackstone Rom + new Manila - I would pay for it.

Hi guys,
tell me, is it not possible to have a normal blackstone rom with the new Manila? I do not understand why there is always the wish to cram the roms. The more the roms are crammed the more bugs we get.
In the meanwhile, I am really willing to pay for it, if it is just possible to get a slim rom, with the new manila, without bugs. And, if possible, in German, but that's not that important.
I'm about to cry

The problem is that even Windows Mobile is not free of bugs. And of course the beta of the new manila isn´t free of bugs at all.
the chefs are trying to get rid of the bugs out of windows mobile or manila
lamajstro said:
Hi guys,
tell me, is it not possible to have a normal blackstone rom with the new Manila? I do not understand why there is always the wish to cram the roms. The more the roms are crammed the more bugs we get.
In the meanwhile, I am really willing to pay for it, if it is just possible to get a slim rom, with the new manila, without bugs. And, if possible, in German, but that's not that important.
I'm about to cry
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

The other problem is the new manila requires many other packages to run properly. And some Blackstone packages don't work with the new manila etc.
This is why you never see just a cab to install the new manilla.

Ah, I see, thank you guys for the background infos. Now, I can understand the problem better.
Well, that's really a pity. I guess, there won't be a version for the HD by HTC or do you know something about that?
I also thought of exchanging my HD with a TD2, when it comes out within the next weeks. But I don't know yet.
Another question: Do you know, where I can find the background of the new manila, so that I could at least use that!?
Thank you!

try onkolog rom's. it's bug free and it's lite. for every other progs that missing in the rom you have cab's on his post. It's the fastest rom around here also.

Robert A said:
try onkolog rom's. it's bug free and it's lite. for every other progs that missing in the rom you have cab's on his post. It's the fastest rom around here also.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's the one I am using right now, but there is the rotation bug in HTC album, which, for me at least, is very annoying. The pictures do not rotate although I move the device!

lamajstro said:
Well, that's the one I am using right now, but there is the rotation bug in HTC album, which, for me at least, is very annoying. The pictures do not rotate although I move the device!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not a bug - this is how the new album works. It actually rotates pictures, but not by g-sensor, it just fits them automatically. On the other hand, it's much faster than the previous one.

need a basic rom wm6.1

hi all, is there a basic rom or one i could create/strip down?
I only use my xda 2 for tomtom/video/phone/txt/mms
i dont need all the other progs that take up memory, just need a very basic rom
any ideas?
cheers

We could cook simple 6.1 rom

newquaymarc said:
hi all, is there a basic rom or one i could create/strip down?
I only use my xda 2 for tomtom/video/phone/txt/mms
i dont need all the other progs that take up memory, just need a very basic rom
any ideas?
cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
basically due to hima memory constrain, there is nothing much to add, so most of hima rom are clean. only some of the rom are customized with themes and skin
aeroflyluby if you have the time, can u cook us a clean 6.1 with default M$ theme & skin? a must to request, .NET 3.5 too

Okay I will try tommorow, now im so tired.

thank you aeroflyluby
many many thanks for your offer and time aeroflyluby
a big cheers to you

aeroflyluby said:
We could cook simple 6.1 rom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would suggest Ather's Dark Edition as basic, as it it is commonly known as one of the most stable clean rom ever. As far as I know, the only issues I remember to be improved, could be changing screen rotation and serialusbfn .dlls and adding speakerphone for better usage.
Adding netcf3.5 is not as easy as it sounds because it is really huge compared with 2.0!! It is nearly impossible to remove enough apps to get the space in memory to build it in!
Hi, newquaymarc. Nice signature - That's quite the same as i meant in mine.

eee, speaker phone is not holding green button?

Sorry my himalaya friends, but today i'm gonna kill myself, I will cook 21054 tommorow, okay? I will, I promise!
Peace and Love to You my friends!

aeroflyluby said:
eee, speaker phone is not holding green button?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I never found a way to use the phone handsfree, as in WM2k3SE times, so I added it to my rom as a fingertip gesture. As I remember, this function leeks in WM5 & 6.X.

ello all, im still alive but buzy as hell, i know i promised a ROM but im really sorry i have been veryy buzy with work
hopefully, this week im kinda free so i can look into my kitchen again
@aeroflyluby : nice work you'r doing for the Hima Lovers, as for the Speaker it was removed from WM2003, so is the STK

cheers muckelmaus
i have no use for hands free.
im using wm 6.1.1c16csand radio 1.17 at the moment.
i just dont need encryption/backup pim/tray launch/new menu for wm5office mobile/games/ftouchflo/ptab/speaker phone/wktask/wm5storage
ive never used any of these and just need more memory free
i have google maps on all the time and msn and keep getting out of memory errors
cheers

I guess, I understand, what you want. But you have a little problem with understanding what happens, when you delete proggis from a running rom. You can delete as much as you want, you'll never get more usable memory in ram. The only thing you get is, more sectors free in rom, to build in new features. These apps you mentioned are all verry small, between 10 and 250kB, (exept office) you hardly get enough room for netcf 3.5, which is about 4MB! I am sorry.

oh poooh
i will have to strugle on
but many thanks for the info
cheers

like i asked before in another thread..
is it possible to build a WM 6 ROM with TRANSPARENT upper and lower bars on today screen...and honey comb start menu...?
thanx in advanced

It's not, that's 6.5 features only. but 6.5 could be lightweight too!

the how to?

hi, i just got my x1 a few weeks back and im looking to upgrade the rom and what i realized is it involves many more steps than what was required for my universal before?
i upgraded the official rom via the SD card method and that worked like a charm. But what i dont know is which rom can i upgrade to on my x1... as it seems that they are all based on R2... R3... etc?
so what im lookin for is a fast and simple answer on which roms i can upgrade on my x1. The method is not a problem. The rom selection is. And plus, which is the best rom you would recommend?
thankx

The best way is, imho:
Check the threads here. In each, you can find a description of the ROM,
a discussion about possible bugs and solutions, and recommendations from
the xda community.
Basically, you can flash any ROM you will find here. Some like the newest,
more "unofficial" builds of WinMo 6.5 with the Windows start menu at the
bottom, others prefer the "official" build with the menu at the top.
Again others prefer either a Windows only ROM, some Manila 2.1, some the
"latest" version 2.5, these are from the "Leo".
Almost the same applies to the radio/rilphone version.
If you have some spare time, make your own trials - start maybe with the
ROMs from agent_47, NRGZ28, spikegotti, itje, MrRusch... and soon, you
will have your very own, personal preferred solution.

thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.

mazlano27 said:
thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Manila is the user interface by HTC, which seems to be a favorite of many
X1 users here at xda - there are many ROMs which are cooked with it.
Version 2.5 is taken from the upcoming Leo model, while 2.1 is from other
models, such as Rhodium and Topaz - those are the closest to the X1 from
hardware specifications. One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of
some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
Manila brings eye candy, but also finger friendliness to WinMo devices. You
can easily recognize it with the big digital clock at the home screen.

tictac0566 said:
(...) One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
(...)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd like to point out that the 2.5 version seems to be a little heavy for the X1.
The manila 2.1 from Rhodium\Topaz have a nice look & feel to them. Also battery life is VERY good with these versions (3 to 6 days on a single charge, depending on how you use your X1). Manila 2.1 does not have the Facebook and Twitter tabs, and has different Favorite and Home screen layouts.
My advise would be to go with a manila 2.1 ROM. My personal favorit is the FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47. It's loaded with lots of extra programs, and runs very stabile.
Excelent everyday use!

FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?

mazlano27 said:
FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Manila is actually a nickname of what was called TouchFlo3D earlier, and to
complete the confusion, you will maybe read "Sense" sometimes, too. In fact,
that is again the same. Most people here use "Manila" and versions 2.1/2.5.
To install Manila with a cab is definitely quite a fast procedure, but the real
performance of your device will not be as fast as possible - even if stable.
The free RAM is different from ROM to ROM, lower WinMo "pure" ones are
somewhat around 30% memory usage, the lowest Manila ROMs are at
around 35-40% with 2.1, 45-55% with Manila 2.5 - but then again, this is
different from ROM to ROM.
In the sum, maybe a Touch X 10.8.2 or agent´s "Photon" ROM (standard)
could be a good point to start.
Once your are happy, the chef most probably will not be unhappy if you
take care of his/her donation fund...
Happy flashing!

thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?

mazlano27 said:
thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I´ve seen your 2nd thread asking about speedy ROMs, and it seems you´re
already happily flashing...
Here´s the link for what to do in warranty/service needs...

yes happily flashing indeed. thanks buddy. just played around and got the hang of it. i understand it now.

[PROBLEM][FIXED!]Hybrid ROM WM6.1 + Sense 2.1 (wired remote contol)

Hello,
I'm new to the Rhodium, but I have some experience in cooking Sable roms.
So, the WM6.5 ROMs where a bit too slowly for me, however all WM6.1 roms doesn't have Sense. I made a hybrid - WM6.1 ROM with Sense 2.1. Works perfectly! Smooth, stable and so on... I have just one problem with this hybrid, my "Wired Remote Control RC E100" stopped working. It always starts Windows Media Player instead of Manila Player. If I cook the old Touch FLO 3.0 (without changing the other ext packages and OEM's) the problem is gone. It works perfectly if I cook the whole OEM's from a WM6.5 rom. But if I do that, a lot of other programs do not work anymore (for example keyboard). I think it's a problem with a driver that is compatible only with Sense or TouchFLO, but I can not figure out with one is it! That's lame, because my ROM is finished and just this issue stops me to using it (my wired remote control is important for me)!
Any help is very appreciated.
Edit: The answer is here:
http://xdafaq.net/index.php?id=13

Post the rom so i can take a look.. Always wanted a 6.1 w/ sense rom.. ;D

Yeah, me too... Trust me, the speed is awsome...
Anyway I dont think you can help me just with a finished ROM, maybe I should post my kitchen? Everything works fine, just the crappy remote control doesn't :/ I have to find with driver controls this!

Jackos said:
Yeah, me too... Trust me, the speed is awsome...
Anyway I dont think you can help me just with a finished ROM, maybe I should post my kitchen? Everything works fine, just the crappy remote control doesn't :/ I have to find with driver controls this!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well i wanted to use the rom of course.. And i think the best thing to do would be to go thru the 6.5 oems adding a few at a time til the problem stops. then to see what you added that effected the remote..
Requires alot of flashing tho..

If you don't use a wired remote control... The rom could fit you ;D
OK, ill upload the rom asap... I'm a bit busy right now.
SH4YD33 said:
And i think the best thing to do would be to go thru the 6.5 oems adding a few at a time til the problem stops. then to see what you added that effected the remote..
Requires alot of flashing tho..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I checked already the registry, nothing there... I even swaped the .rgu files!
I will have to check all the drivers :/ And this will take an whole age -_-
I checked the cab file with HTC drives for the remote control... And there is just one suspicious file: wavedev.dll. I used this driver from WM6.5 OEM, but it doesn't change anything!

Ummmm... post it please!!!! Sounds like An awesome hybrid. Does it have the smooth flow In scrolling that 6.5 has? Besides sense 2.1 that would be my only other want. Don't really care, but, titanium will be gone cus this is meant to be fast and light right...... thanks... looking forward to the release!!!

fishwiz45 said:
Ummmm... post it please!!!! Sounds like An awesome hybrid. Does it have the smooth flow In scrolling that 6.5 has? Besides sense 2.1 that would be my only other want. Don't really care, but, titanium will be gone cus this is meant to be fast and light right...... thanks... looking forward to the release!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guys, firstly I need to fix my issue xD The ROM i have created is for my personal use, it hasn't got UC, it has a lot of my stuff and so on...
If there is need for such a rom, i'll create one. But this needs some time.
Edit: Yes, it has got smooth flow, but it's taken from the TouchFLO 3.0 (dunno what you mean with "smooth flow In scrolling that 6.5 has", but I don't see any difference between the TF3.0 flow and the WM6.5 one).

I understand you posted a question in hopes of fixing the problem in your rom. Sorry I can't be of some help with that. The ROM sounds like a winner though and I am anxious to try. Thank you for your response and good luck fixing the issue.

I fixed it God bless XDA ;D
Anyway I'm so dumb -_- I could figure it out an day ago...
http://xdafaq.net/index.php?id=13
So, how many ppl are up for a Hybrid WM6.1 Sense 2.1 ROM? Maybe i should try to cook Sense 2.5 into WM6.1? What do you think?

Jackos said:
I fixed it God bless XDA ;D
Anyway I'm so dumb -_- I could figure it out an day ago...
http://xdafaq.net/index.php?id=13
So, how many ppl are up for a Hybrid WM6.1 Sense 2.1 ROM? Maybe i should try to cook Sense 2.5 into WM6.1? What do you think?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im up for it man.. I'l help you actually because this is what i need. Could you send me the sense 2.1 OEMS? I'l cook up something really nice.

I extracted them from HTC's stock Rhodium WM6.5 ROM.

Jackos said:
I extracted them from HTC's stock Rhodium WM6.5 ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which kitchen did you use? And OS build?

Joshkoss kitchen. WM6.1 21048 build (from HTC's stock WM6.1 ROM).

I downloaded PPCKitchen.. I'l post when i have something.

Check out my ROM thread. I'll upload a surprise for ya today
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063

i need that...where s t?

[Q] BEST ROM for Touch Diamond2

Hello,
I got my first windows mobile device Diamond2 as a gift today and looking for a good OS here.
Can you please suggest one for me?
I will also download some from ROM page and try.

Do not forget to look into the WiKi before asking a question
Taken from the WiKi
Shipped ROMs for Topaz
Cooked ROMs for Topaz
Radio ROMs for Topaz
Success,
Senax

Thanks friend for reply.
I was just reading the WiKi page and seen all those.... but I am confused what ROM I should select SO looking for a generic feedback on what is good what is bad.
Actually I dont want ROM to be loaded with so many app. Looking for similar to what I have in mobile now but updated version...

I hope your device has latest Official ROM installed.
You will get all custom ROMs here which are mainly modify version of the Official ROM and has latest SYS/Builds and new Packages (new applications like adobe reader).
These ROMs are good, but NOT all ROM will satisfy every one. i.e ROM1 may good for person1 and person 4, but person 2 and 3 may like ROM2.
So it is good to test all available food and decide which dish tests you a lot .
Hope this will help.
Thanks.

With all the respect to your very correct and right answer (prabhat), this is in my opinion, very first and tha main problem, why the more and more people will switch to devileshed i-phone. The main difference betwen i-phone and wm 6.5 dev. is the "user-friendly" parameter. In no discuss, the wm 6.5 is more professional with more the features then the i-phone. But the people would like tu use the phone with satisfaction and enjoyness. Maybe the right answer for TD2IN will be something from you honest opinion, what do YOU think, that will be best solution for him/her. The ROM, which is stable, fast, simple, user friendly. The people need some help ... Have a nice day.

Here is my answer
TD2IN said:
Thanks friend for reply.
I was just reading the WiKi page and seen all those.... Looking for similar to what I have in mobile now but updated version...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is my answer, i has been using Stock, Energy Standard and now i switch to "eclipse Version 7 (Updated)"
The eclipse looks to me very close to the Stock and fastest with few useful Apps.

I amalso looking for a ROM here and new here.

mur_bbsr said:
I amalso looking for a ROM here and new here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey I am also new here but managed to get my ROM here
I tried several available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Cooked_ROMs_for_Topaz but atlast I am using Photon ROM and I am happy.
You may not like the same, but you need to atleast try 3-4 and select one that suite your usage/style etc.
I liked Dutty's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=579076
And Photon ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943396
As Dutty is not updating and Photon ha much stable and good so I am using that.
PIng me if you need more help.

Thanks for the reply friend.
I will start my process tonight and let you all know how it goes...
thank you

mur_bbsr said:
Thanks for the reply friend.
I will start my process tonight and let you all know how it goes...
thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you get your ROM ?

I am still in the process to find my cup of tea...
I started with Dutty's ROM... but this has old version... so started picking others.
Now I have tested below softwares but yet to finilise one:
1) Energy ROM - The Energy Standard one
2) CR192 Mozart OS
3) Photon ROM OS - Stock edition one
I like the stock rom apprach of photon and energy, but energy has lots of application pre installed which I dont want. If I see CR192 that is also very good pick. So I am looking at battery life now and should be finilise in 2 -3 days.
thanks

energy roms and photon roms are great...

Energy ROM FTW
I tried a few ROMs with my Topaz and settled at Energy ROM (with start menu at top).
I used to install a load of stuff with each ROM and this was the most complete ROM with the most flexible Sense UI. The only 2 apps I needed to install on top of Energy is Skype and TomTom Navigator.
I like that it has the manual rotate programmed on holding the Answer button (I used to install a keyboard extender to do it before using Energy ROMs) so it can manually rotate apps not built for auto rotate like Tomtom. More importantly, I can turn off auto rotate on apps coz often I don't want auto rotate like when Im lying on couch/bed reading or using it for music. Fark I hate the UI rotating when I dont want it to! I find auto rotate an annoying gimmick made popular by Apple. Just gimme manual rotate, thx.
I prefer Resco Explorer to Total Commander but I havent bothered to install Resco and live fine with Total Commander that comes with the Energy ROM. I understand that Resco is not freeware so they can't include it.
I like that all the JAVA and DOTNET stuff is all done, has a good wireless hotspot app already, Opera with max tabs set for more than 2 already, TCPMP media player working well, RSS feed app, Twitter, Stocks tab .... I could go on and on. It pretty much has all the good freeware and tweaks and all the hard work already done for you.
I don't use my Topaz daily now, but I still use the same version of Energy ROM on my Blackstone (Touch HD) as my personal mobile phone. I used to also carry the Topaz with a data only SIM in it for internet access, but now I use a Dell Streak (android) to do that. Yeh Im crazy I carry TWO phones everywhere!
IF you wanna get up and going right out of the box, Energy ROM is the most complete and ready for the Topaz.

Instead I Liked Photon ROM and CR192 Mozart and currently running with Photon UX Edition.
I liked Energy, but that is toooooo bulky with so many applications which I dont require and to me looks ugly on my device and I can not remove those. In case of Photon ROM I dont have any extra stuffs so I can Install what I need not what some one gives me to use, whihc I dont require. I understand that there are many who may like what is given on the ROM that they use... but I like to have my stuff in my device.

Photon UX - plus Chinese support + handwriting ftw!
I've tried many ROMs in search of a better replacement for my TD2's sluggish official ROM (SEA version), and I've fallen in love with Photon UX edition and its professional looking background art.
Even better, I have managed to install Xyam's East Asian fonts support, Guobi for pinyin and character inputs, and Samsung's simple + traditional Chinese handwriting input V3.0 (my version comes from sanxingshouxieshurufa_8313 and fits the screen perfectly). Don't bother trying out the menu icon for the Samsung input though, the options don't work, only full screen handwriting is enabled. Otherwise, everything works perfectly as far as I can tell!

Thank you all for this thread which gave me a basic idea of what rom software I should download. I will download Photon ROM now... need to findout which edition I need there
Thank you all.

I have couple of questions in Photon ROM while downloading different edition of it... but this forum prevent me to post in the photon thread. Do I need to contact the owner of photon rom for this?
Thank you all.

the1980ar said:
I have couple of questions in Photon ROM while downloading different edition of it... but this forum prevent me to post in the photon thread. Do I need to contact the owner of photon rom for this?
Thank you all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By default new users in forum are not allowed to post in development related threads (but I have sen exception and users with 1-2 posts do post/reply there as well). You will be automatically allowd to post there after 1 day or so.
If you need any help in between you can ask here or PM me and I can help you.

Thank you.. but my id started working now and I can post questions there as well.

Have updated my Photon UX ROM version to 2.2 and everything still works well for me