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I plan on buying the X1 when I get my $5500 next week. My most recent phone was the Motorola Rokr E6(Linux Based) and I'm coming from the Motorola Deveploment Community. I've owned a Sony before (W810i) and loved it, so I want to get the X1. I've never used WM before So I hope modding won't be hard to learn. My questions are: Is there Emulaters for the X1 like Nitendo, Super Nitendo, Sega, GBA, N64, and PS1. I had these on my E6 and loved them. Also what about the Doom expansions and Quake expansions as well, I also played these on my E6. Aslo can we overclock the processor and use Swap partions to, Also things I loved about the E6. I looked in the thread for noob questions but 4 pages in it was just people saying how much they don't like noobs posting unneccesary posts and how much they don't like noobs basically so I stopped looking in the thread and decided to post this thread. I aplogize if these questions were posted somewhere else. Thank you for your time and I can't wait to learn WM modding.
All the Emulators are performing like crap (on the MSM720*).
Only (low action) SNES games on Morphgear, like Mario or other lame games (sorry but i hate platforms) where actually able to play on a decent framerate.
Secret of Mana for example was unplayable, unless you like humongous lag. Enabling sound only makes it worse. At the time I actually gave a crap about it, I couldnt stand playing it any longer then 10 minutes, since the qwerty keyboard is not usuable for gaming (in a comfort way, it functions fine in morphgear)
Emulation on WM6.1 is bull****, apart from the PS1 emulator that is, even though the MSM7200 is immensely underpowered for it, seeing that thing on a Snapdragon or OMAP3 chipset (youtube it) is pure awesomeness.
My S.E. M600 did GBA/SEGA Genesis emulation about 4 times as fast, and thats with an 208Mhz ARM9 chip.
Do not buy the X1 if you like playing (console) games.
SomeoneSimple said:
All the Emulators are performing like crap (on the MSM720*).
Only (low action) SNES games on Morphgear, like Mario or other lame games (sorry but i hate platforms) where actually able to play on a decent framerate.
Secret of Mana for example was unplayable, unless you like humongous lag. Enabling sound only makes it worse. At the time I actually gave a crap about it, I couldnt stand playing it any longer then 10 minutes, since the qwerty keyboard is not usuable for gaming (in a comfort way, it functions fine in morphgear)
Emulation on WM6.1 is bull****, apart from the PS1 emulator that is, even though the MSM7200 is immensely underpowered for it, seeing that thing on a Snapdragon or OMAP3 chipset is pure awesomeness.
My S.E. M600 did GBA/SEGA Genesis emulation about 4 times as fast, and thats with an 208Mhz ARM9 chip.
Do not buy the X1 if you like playing (console) games.
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Thanks for the reply, My E6 had a intel PXA270 chipset clocked at 312mhz but with overclocking I could boost it to 528mhz and 620mhz and that vastly improved gaming, Can we do this on the X1?. And what about Doom and Quake.
Welcome to the forums .
1 - Yes. Most will have some lag, but the good thing is there are many to choose from. MorphGear, PicoDrive PocketNES, PocketSNES, etc. The emulator gaming is enjoyable, but will perfect.
You have a choice of hundreds of WinMo games + Java games + PC ports like StarCraft and Diablo, so there are plenty of games.
2 - Yes, you can play them on the X1. Quake is not modified for the WVGA resolution AFAIK, but Quake 3 is playable with a slow framerate. Doom worked only once for me, but I didn't bother to fix it. I just don't find those type of games playable without a mouse...
3 - No overclocking for the X1 so far. There are a couple of programs, but they either do nothing, or start once and then freeze.
Use search, read, learn and feel free to ask questions after that .
@orelsi thanks so much for the info. Sweet we can play Starcraft and Diablo. Dam no overclocking thats a shame. hmm so quake and doom are not made for the 800x400 res, thats okay I bet there is alot of 3d java games for the X1. And yes next time I wll use the search I just really needed to know these answers, and get a chance to talk to some members.
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I'm glad that I was able to help .
About the games. When I got the X1, I was thinking that I would play games on it all the time. Well... it didn't work out that way lol. Between the browsing, reading rss feeds and books, tweaking options, mp3s, clips, etc. I barely got time for a quick game haha.
All the games are just rusting in the corner.
Nevertheless, when you think how hot StarCraft was back in the day and that now you can carry it in your pocket..... makes you wonder about the future .
Check out this list of games. It can give you a general idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522761
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All the Emulators are performing like crap (on the MSM720*).
Only (low action) SNES games on Morphgear, like Mario or other lame games (sorry but i hate platforms) where actually able to play on a decent framerate.
Secret of Mana for example was unplayable, unless you like humongous lag. Enabling sound only makes it worse. At the time I actually gave a crap about it, I couldnt stand playing it any longer then 10 minutes, since the qwerty keyboard is not usuable for gaming (in a comfort way, it functions fine in morphgear)
Emulation on WM6.1 is bull****, apart from the PS1 emulator that is, even though the MSM7200 is immensely underpowered for it, seeing that thing on a Snapdragon or OMAP3 chipset (youtube it) is pure awesomeness.
My S.E. M600 did GBA/SEGA Genesis emulation about 4 times as fast, and thats with an 208Mhz ARM9 chip.
Do not buy the X1 if you like playing (console) games.
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Have been playing Chrono Trigger on Morphgear for months and no problem for me.
And if you can stand the black bar on the side of the screen, quake not being WVGA shouldn't be a problem.
One last thing, What about Swap Partions for the X1?
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Have been playing Chrono Trigger on Morphgear for months and no problem for me.
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Well, I might've took things out of context, but i was REALLY disappointed in the Emulation capabilities of my X1.
I remember completely finishing multiple action-oriented SEGA Genesis games on my S.E. M600i (208mhz ARM9), Sonic&Knuckles (very fast platform), Streets of Rage (beat em up), Vectorman (action, platform), and some mickeymouse game (action/platform). All of these had perfect stereo sound, and i often had a framerate above realtime.
Then you can understand, that when i got my X1 (totally excited about its WAY FASTER CPU) and booted up similar games, i was extremely confused that i had no sound (without screwing my fps even more), terrible framerate and TBH, awefull controlls. That is the reason, why i think the X1, and all similar, underpowered Windows Mobile devices, is a PITA to play emulated games on.
About the swap. We dont have it (AFAIK), and we'll never need it. My percentage of Ram usage is always under 90%, no matter how many apps i open. Mainly this is because of a (IMO retarded) 16MB/32MB Ram per app limit.
I was playing Raging Thunder 2 last night and it made me want to ask this question or raise this issue to anyone that could have an effect on or shed light on. The graphics on raging thunder 2 as well as a few other games on the nexus are as good if not better than that on the psp. So why then are there only a few decent games with good graphics, and also why not a full psp well working emulator. It seems like the gaming community is growing yet nothing all that great is being produced(no offense, just a statement based on visual display opinion). Just want to get some feedback from people that can give it to me. Thanks.
First of all, let me kill your hopes of the psp emulator (sorry!). Emulators require in excess of 10x the processing power, which is a long ways off. Android is still working on getting all gameboy games to run without skipping frames (last I saw).
As far as the well-developed games go...you have to put a lot of effort into making a game with good graphics. You also need a market for the game to sell. There are a lot of psp games because you can sell them for $40 and get a large amount of people to buy them. Good luck selling pretty much anything for $40 on android. For most people, their phone is not a gaming platform.
That said, I must agree with you on the disappointment on available games. I can understand having poor graphics, but I feel that there should be more games with greater depth and gameplay available.
This is all of course just my opinion. I am sure there is more going on than I said.
So I got the psx emulator even though the slide probably isn't the best device to be running the app on. Tried a few of my fave games and the larger roms (like GT2) are slightly laggier then the smaller ones (like Spyro 2). This is probably normal due to size.
I know this is the first release so its not a well pollished app but how much better do you folks think its going to get for us slide users? And is this the same experience the rest of you are having?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
took the app from 4shared.com amd game won't load. buying it tommorow tho, but it shouldnt run horrid thinking it might run smooth actually, not a fan of how you have to get the roms but hey it ps1 on the go right?
Update: Looks like my Bios was the issue, but works fine now. Games are pretty laggy tried overclocking but not sure it worked out to well, need to try something else. only tried spyro playable but not normal game play like you'd want. Wish we had hummingbird in this! *drools over keyboard* If FF7-9 work good enough for me then. but maybe in the future once its more polished it could become better but playing fighter games or very actiony games maybe not "amazing". Price you must pay for owning a mid-range device.
the games are wayyyy too laggy for slide imho. i just stick with the good ol snes emulator.
I think its the emulator that needs some work because I have heard it runs crappy on the Evo too, but for a work in progress you have to admit that its pretty impressive to be able to load a PSX game onto your phone. I have tried a bunch of different ROMs and so far the only one that is playable is Resident Evil Directors Cut.
I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
Also, Hello!
SefEXE said:
I just downloaded this, but I'm enjoying it. It's laggy, but I think the fact that it's even possible is amazing.
I've been watching the psx4droid wiki(can't post a link yet) and another forum. Just checking out to see people's experiences with certain games. I think most of the people that are sharing on the wiki have a bit more mhz than us, but it kind of gives me an idea which games will be ok to run.
I've got FF7 right now and it's definitely laggy, but playable. Sound a bit on the staticy side. Downloading Breath of Fire III, Xenogears and Resident Evil 2.
I'm reading the Resident Evils should be better since a lot of the graphics are pre-rendered and mainly the characters and npcs are 3D.
Running stock, btw. Holding out for 2.2 before determine if I'm going to root.
Also, Hello!
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Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.
Joe333x said:
Unfortunately RE2 runs too slow but RE Directors Cut runs well enough to play and the sound isnt terrible. So far thats the best I can find, well Tetris Plus runs fine but there are better Tetris games you can play in the market.
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Ah crud. Well I'll probably be trying more things to see what is great. I wasn't really too excited about RE2 anyways. I never really had a PSX, so I didn't play a lot of these games. Of course I could just do it on the PC now, but... well, I do enjoy the slide.
About halfway through disk one of Final Fantasy 7. The game runs perfect on Fenix 1.8 OCed to 844mhz. Zero lag. The only issue is the sound but I usually play it in public places anyway so it's not a deal breaker for me. Even bust out the WiiRemote for a controller sometimes at home
Has anyone tried the N64oid on the gtablet yet? Any impressions from gtab users? It's in the market now.
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Has anyone tried the N64oid on the gtablet yet? Any impressions from gtab users? It's in the market now.
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I'm gonna buy it today so I can play some Conkers Bad Fur Day. I'll let you know!
I got it, will test it during lunch, I tried running it on my Droid 1, choppy but playable. Lets hope it flys on the Gtab when I get home.
Hey thanks six. I've been following it in the market looks like they fixed a few of the sound problems and other things....I might just jump on it too, this weekend. But ill wait for u haha.
Can you please let me know if it supports any other input methods,like wii mote. I would think it would be a ***** to play with the on screen keyboard.
The program is great!!!
The only issue I have is that the framerate is way to fast (didn't expect that), so the game play (at least for mario 64) is like mario on crack. I hope I can figure out a way to slow the framerate.
It does support the wiimote!
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The program is great!!!
The only issue I have is that the framerate is way to fast (didn't expect that), so the game play (at least for mario 64) is like mario on crack. I hope I can figure out a way to slow the framerate.
It does support the wiimote!
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Sorry guys! Yes it's awesome!!! Especially on the G-tab, my 2 yr old and I have been playing Mario 64 and Mario Cart 64 like crazy! Well worth the money! Great in combo with "rom gripper ++"! It does run a bit fast on some games, but I am very pleased with this considering I bought all the *oid emulation apps for me and the kids, well mainly me. The on screen controller took a bit getting used to but wasn't so bad after a while. Yep wii remote will work.
any idea if a xbox wired controller works???
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any idea if a xbox wired controller works???
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I doubt that would work. But the wiimote works. Too bad two player games can't be played on one screen, at least not that I know of.
I can't find it. . . I search n64oid and it doesn't come up. . .
Super Mario 64 ,Mario mart, and pokemon stadium 2 no issues.
Starfox sound goes away during gameplay but the game plays great besides that.
Pokemon stadium intro plays but that's it. Excite bike 64 is a no go. That's all I tested.
Not bad for an early release.
Hell yes! Was actually trolling online recently for an n64. Mine got stollen my Meth heads a few years back and I miss it and my perfect collection of classics. If I can play Tetrisphere and conkers bad fur day with the wii mote I will be in heaven, and be able to keep a little more cash in my pocket. Those systems can be expensive now. Apparently all the stoners up here in the Northwest have a death grip on their n64s and wont give them up for cheap.
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Hell yes! Was actually trolling online recently for an n64. Mine got stollen my Meth heads a few years back and I miss it and my perfect collection of classics. If I can play Tetrisphere and conkers bad fur day with the wii mote I will be in heaven, and be able to keep a little more cash in my pocket. Those systems can be expensive now. Apparently all the stoners up here in the Northwest have a death grip on their n64s and wont give them up for cheap.
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I still have my n64 somewhere in a box. I never did get rid of it and I wouldn't either. Maybe those stoners aren't that stoned after all.
I have been using an N64 emu on PC & laptop for quite a few years now and have at least "a few" roms. Result is I have roms that are verified to work.
Seems not many games work well with this emu yet, but some that do:
Super Mario
Bust a Move 99 / 3DX, 2
Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Kart
That is about it so far that I tested. All others tried either play slower, strobe off and on or backgrounds go black. If you like the games above, the app is good right now.
I have tried several dozen roms so far and the ones above are the best.
BTW, The games play half the speed on Incredible, so even slower.
This seems a beta release and $7 is a bit steep.
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Sadly, the dev is following the same trend as with his PSX emu and each update makes the app WORSE.
Some games that worked do not now and games are a lot slower with the update from today. A lot now crash before even playing. BAD update.
I only wish there was a free version so I could test it out.
Anyone knows if it would run well overclocked at 768 MHz?
rushless said:
I have been using an N64 emu on PC & laptop for quite a few years now and have at least "a few" roms. Result is I have roms that are verified to work.
Seems not many games work well with this emu yet, but some that do:
Super Mario
Bust a Move 99 / 3DX, 2
Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Kart
That is about it so far that I tested. All others tried either play slower, strobe off and on or backgrounds go black. If you like the games above, the app is good right now.
I have tried several dozen roms so far and the ones above are the best.
BTW, The games play half the speed on Incredible, so even slower.
This seems a beta release and $7 is a bit steep.
Update:
Sadly, the dev is following the same trend as with his PSX emu and each update makes the app WORSE.
Some games that worked do not now and games are a lot slower with the update from today. A lot now crash before even playing. BAD update.
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Yikes. This is exactly why I'm not so sure about paying $7 on something that might not even run on my Ally. And the 15 minute refund window probably isn't enough time to judge, either.
Works pretty good for me so far, tried Mario 64, Zelda Ocarina, and Goldeneye, all worked at normal speed with good sound. Donkey Kong 64 starts but controls won't work, assuming a bad ROM.
As I type, my Son is playing Mario 64 with the latest update. No issues whats so ever. Thanks for the heads up guys!!!!
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! (well this and full version of firefox) It seems to run great on my gtab, super mario 64 is so fast its funny, on the other hand Golden eye 007 runs at just about the right speed.
Just checked the description. G-sensor as analog. I might try this.
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THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! (well this and full version of firefox) It seems to run great on my gtab, super mario 64 is so fast its funny, on the other hand Golden eye 007 runs at just about the right speed.
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Mario 64 runs fine on my gtab but I can't get golden eye to run lol. Wanna trade??? Jk
The newest version of the app is slower, compared to the previous version, so not sure what version you folks are using. Same trend as with his PSX efforts.
Trust me, in the previous versions performed much better. it seems he got rid of the auto frame-skip and the current frames skip method does a bad job.
You really notice it on the Snapdragon (Incredible). Slower version.
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I see what he has done now with the newest update. He has adjusted compatibility to be better for some games, but the net impact is slower performance. Hope he finds a balance
Just wanted everybody to know, that Robert Bruglia, who also ported Snes9X and other Emulators to Android, released his vba-m port GBA.emu.
As you expect from his emulators, it's running great, and especially with our keyboard, and disabled linear filtering, it's a real pleasure to play GBA games on this emulator.
You can find it in the market: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLmV4cGx1c2FscGhhLkdiYUVtdSJd
How does this compare to something like gameboid?
Also are there any playstation emulators than can be used in the background? I have FPse which works good, but whenever I press the home button it closes, and I have to restart from my last save point.
does it have link cable connection emulation?
i've been looking for an app with that function
I don't know, unfortunately. But please consider contacting the developer!
I miss yongzh. his EMUs were top-notch and he was a speedy and proficient developer!
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How does this compare to something like gameboid?
Also are there any playstation emulators than can be used in the background? I have FPse which works good, but whenever I press the home button it closes, and I have to restart from my last save point.
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The main reason why I first switched to GBA.emu is that Yongzh refuses to develop Gameboid any further, since it was removed from the Android Market back in 2011. Then the main reason is the unbelievably ugly linear filtering that made games look so blurry and ugly.
But there is a new kid on the block, it's name is "My Boy!" and has some benefits over GBA.emu. It's much faster than GBA.emu and needs far less battery. I tested it with Final Fantasy Advance, which is a time intese game. With GBA.emu my battery drained within 3 hours, with My Boy! it lasts at least double the time.
Every emulator is worth buying, because their developers are working hard to get the best performance and compatibility. So I think you should buy My Boy! AND GBA.emu.
To disable linear filtering in My Boy! go to Video settings and change the Backend rendering mode to Canvas instead of OpenGL ES.
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I'd like to share the information, which emulators the Android versions are based of:
Gameboid: gpSP
GBA.emu: VBA-M r1097
My Boy!: NO PORT - own development
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The main reason why I first switched to GBA.emu is that Yongzh refuses to develop Gameboid any further, since it was removed from the Android Market back in 2011. Then the main reason is the unbelievably ugly linear filtering that made games look so blurry and ugly.
But there is a new kid on the block, it's name is "My Boy!" and has some benefits over GBA.emu. It's much faster than GBA.emu and needs far less battery. I tested it with Final Fantasy Advance, which is a time intese game. With GBA.emu my battery drained within 3 hours, with My Boy! it lasts at least double the time.
Every emulator is worth buying, because their developers are working hard to get the best performance and compatibility. So I think you should buy My Boy! AND GBA.emu.
To disable linear filtering in My Boy! go to Video settings and change the Backend rendering mode to Canvas instead of OpenGL ES.
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I'd like to share the information, which emulators the Android versions are based of:
Gameboid: gpSP
GBA.emu: VBA-M r1097
My Boy!: NO PORT - own development
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Does this emulator support cable link emulation then?
If it supports link cable emulation, the emulator would be quite interesting.
I had a conversation with the developers of "My Boy!" and it seems pretty much impossible to add this feature. But they also claimed that they might get back to that topic in the future.
My conclusion by the way is: MyBoy! offers very high fps even on low-end devices and saves battery the most. I recommend GBA.emu especially for x86 devices, as there is a native version for that platform and it's very fast.
I am currently running My Boy! on my tablet.
But when I stretch out the image and put the app in fullscreen! the image looks blurred.
Is this still the best app in regards to image quality?
(When it comes to GBA of course)
link cable emulation
My boy just released an update for link cable emulation but I'm finding it hard to figure out how to work it. And for that other guy I think the image will always be the same but will be blurrier if it is stretched