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WLAN turning on by itself....

Hello everyone!
Just moved from a P3600 to the P4550 and noticed something strange twice in the last 4 days. When I looked at the display in the morning (phone and WLAN were off overnight.....hardly ever turn on WLAN, as I only use it when travelling) I found that WLAN had switched itself on sometime during the night. What gives?
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

This happens to me also if:
(1) ActiveSync is set to "as items arrive" (i.e. push)
(2) There is no phone signal.
Apparently AS looks for the Exchange server, and not being able to find a phone signal, turns on Wifi to see if it can connect like that.
I suppose this will also happen if you have AS set to poll mail at intervals. When the interval time arrives, I guess AS will want to go online and - not being able to use the phone signal - will turn on Wifi.
Very annoying as it drains the battery. It does NOT turn Wifi off after a while.
Oh well.

This happens to me also if:
(1) ActiveSync is set to "as items arrive" (i.e. push)
(2) There is no phone signal.
Apparently AS looks for the Exchange server, and not being able to find a phone signal, turns on Wifi to see if it can connect like that.
I suppose this will also happen if you have AS set to poll mail at intervals. When the interval time arrives, I guess AS will want to go online and - not being able to use the phone signal - will turn on Wifi.
Very annoying as it drains the battery. It does NOT turn Wifi off after a while.
Oh - an afterthought: in CONNECTIONS I have set both programs accessing the net and programs accessing a private network configured to use MY WORK NETWORK. Don't know if fiddling around with that may stop AS turning on WifI.
Should you find a solution, please post coz I would like to fix this bug/feature too.

Hmmm.....if this theory is correct then going to flight-mode instead of just turning the phone off - should effectively not allow any kind of connections.....will check tomorrow....

Diamond Wi-Fi Problem

I have recently procured an HTC Diamond mobile and is facing the following problem:
I have a Linksys Router at home. When I switch on the Wi-Fi in my Diamond, it gets connected to the router. In the status, I can see the signal strength, Tx, Rx rate etc. But when I open the browser (both opera & IE), the web pages does not open. Error message stating check the url or does any other programme using the internet works? appears. Even my weather does not get updated. Using the same router, I am able to connect my laptop as well as my desktop to Internet.
When my diamond is synced using active sync, my mobile is able to connect to the Internet & Weather application also get updated.
Kindly help me to resolve this issue and make diamond connect to net using wi-fi.
Thank you in advance.

I have the same problem sometimes
I just changed parameter in settings -> connections -> wireless lan -> power mode -> "best performance" instead of "best battery" and it seems to work now.
I'm new to WM, so I don't know if it's a bug: when I don't use my phone I press the power button, or I wait it to go to "sleep mode" in 40s.
When I press power button to reactivate the screen, I can see in the first seconds that the wlan was disconnected and connects again.
So it seems that wifi is always disconnected when the phone is in sleep mode? That means no mails can be received ? Can anyone confirm?
Thanks

Hi there for both of you!
I had a connection problem with my Diamond at home. It was almost the same as tkak just I couldn't figure out whether ActiveSync connects or not. I managed to bypass this to set my routers DHCP timeout from 1 week to 3 hours and it all went away. The network status showed periodic connect/reconnect during the problem so it might be a different prob than yours.
Peio64:
WM6 keeps WiFi connection asleep during sleep mode. Imagine the battery usage if it was connected to WiFi all the time. So be happy with that and beside it is usable. WiFi automatically tries to connect to the closest hot-spot if it was connected before each time you switch on. Normally it shouldn't take more than 5-10 seconds and the whole process can be followed on the top bar.
Mails: Use DirectPush and GPRS connection and e-mails will arrive instantly. Google for setting this up. With Wifi I dunno - if you schedule ActiveSync for a periodic check whether your WiFi will be used or a new GPRS connection. I think GPRS can be used while the device is asleep but I'm not sure. Someone should test this. Probably whichever is quicker to build up a connection will be used for data transfer. (Note: on some forum I read that if you disable GPRS auto check with a tweak battery will last longer so I guess this means that GPRS is always connected.
Regs, Cina.

Does your diamond obtain an IP adress from your router, and is the connection setup as 'connects to internet'?

cina said:
Hi there for both of you!
Peio64:
WM6 keeps WiFi connection asleep during sleep mode. Imagine the battery usage if it was connected to WiFi all the time. So be happy with that and beside it is usable. WiFi automatically tries to connect to the closest hot-spot if it was connected before each time you switch on. Normally it shouldn't take more than 5-10 seconds and the whole process can be followed on the top bar.
Mails: Use DirectPush and GPRS connection and e-mails will arrive instantly. Google for setting this up. With Wifi I dunno - if you schedule ActiveSync for a periodic check whether your WiFi will be used or a new GPRS connection. I think GPRS can be used while the device is asleep but I'm not sure. Someone should test this. Probably whichever is quicker to build up a connection will be used for data transfer. (Note: on some forum I read that if you disable GPRS auto check with a tweak battery will last longer so I guess this means that GPRS is always connected.
Regs, Cina.
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Thank you for your answer,
I had a SE P1i before, and wifi was connected all the time with push mail. With the diamond and its weaker battery, I set up my mails schedule to connect every 15 min so wifi only needs to be active every 15min, even in sleep mode, I don't want it to be connected all the time this is of course a battery waste.
HSDPA is connecting in sleep mode there's no problem with that, I just wish to use wifi for mails when I'm at home as my data plan is unlimited for web surfing but only 10Mo/month for pop/imap connections.
BTW I don't use the "keylock" option, is it different from sleep mode in this case? I can't see the advantage of keylock versus sleep mode

I had an ETEN M600 for ages before and I found that for sync it always used GPRS even if WiFi was available. The cause for this was GPRS was available while device is asleep so it can start syncing immediately after wake up (does it needs to wake up for sync?). So you probably have to switch GPRS (HSDPA) off while you're at home.
Keylock is for locking hardware buttons and touchscreen while it is active. (You won't dial up anyone from your pocket). It has nothing to do with sleeping just if you set up the registry tweak the device get locked (Keylock software is started) if you press power to send it to sleep. (I've almost written "off" but it is obviously not true - you can switch it off with a long press on power = soft reset).
Hope this helped a bit.
Cina

Okay thank you, I checked and HSDPA is connecting every 15min in sleep mode even with wifi ON. If I switch data off I suppose nothing connects and no mail is received, which is I think it's a weird behaviour.
By the way, I have set my data connection to swich off 10 seconds after not being used, and it works perfectly and reconnects automatiquely when it needs to. But for the wifi I can find that option, it's stays connected all the time when I use the phone, even if I don't need to. Is it possible?
Maybe it's due to the fact that it's always checking if there are new networks? On Symbian UIQ3, you can pre-configure networks, give manually priorities for each networks (1.Wlan work, 2.Wlan home, 3.3G etc..) and for each application (web, mail, etc). When the phone connects it checks if the network "1" is available, if it's not it checks the network "2", and once it's connected it doesn't check anymore. Is there a WM6 advanced network tool like that?
(Sorry for my english)

I did the following and now it gets connected to the web:
I just changed parameter in settings -> connections -> wireless lan -> power mode -> "best performance" instead of "best battery".
I do not know why this needs to be done like this.
Thankyou all for resolving my problem

I'm experiencing problems connecting to my WL Router (DrayTek 2820n) using WiFi when the router is set to Auto instead of to a specific channel. I've noticed from some threads for other mobiles that people are exprience similar problems. Does anybody knows what is the story around which channels are supported on WiFi: 1-11, 1-12 or 1-13. My router is set to 13 by default. In addtion to that Diamond has problem to connect to some channels even in the 1-11 range. So how can I check, which channels are supported and for which region?
Edit: I did further testing and it became obvious that when using Auto channel selection on the router, Diamond wouldn't connect. When selecting manually any channel between 1-11 it works OK, but when selection channels 12-13 it stops working, which makes me believe that the Diamond doesn't have support for the channels for non-US regions.

Does anybody have any idea how to change wifi region to support 12-13 channels as well? So far I couldn't find anything on the net that would help me doing it. Is it possible that it might be WM 6.1 issue and not Diamond?

HI I am actually having a diffirent issue but still related to wi-fi. When my phone awakes from sleep, it promts me to connect to my wi-fi server at home, when it was already connected jus minutes before. I have to re-enter the pass phrase everytime it awakes from sleep. This does not seem normal as my 6.0 touch didnt do that.
Any takers on this?

For more channels, it depend of US version or EU version. You need to changer your firmware but the problem is that in France for Internet you use PPoA and Belgium PPoE and I do not know if in the US they use the same so you will probebly losse your ability to connect to the Internet. Having more channels is not interesting because you need a hope of 5 between channels ( ex : ch1 + 5 = ch 6 and ch6 + 5 = ch11) between ch1 and ch6 place a ch11 for avoiding interferances. In 802.11g that is a question of scheme.
Sorry for my poor English.

Problem connecting to home network wifi
Hi, i've been using diamond to connect to my wifi home network but since few days is not possible anymore even if nothing was changed in the settings of the router.
The phone recognize the network as available, i push connect, it comes connecting but instead of connecting to the netwok it goes back to available.
Password is correct and the setting are the same as few days ago.
Any idea which setting should be modified?
Thanks in advance!
Panco76

Hello everyone,
I have one problem with my diamond. I disabled the "data transfer" with the improved comm manager. I usually use wifi when i'm home, however, i've seen that even though wifi is active, HSDPA connection is activated as well so i got charged, this sometimes happens when updating weather data or downloading emails.
Anyone with the same problem?

Yes - having he same problem.
I have WIFI at home and at work - so i want to use GPRS only when i am outside. never managed to do this - except when i kill GPRS fully - and even then Opera, the weather and push-mail wont work. :-(

WiFi Channels 12-13?
I need to bump up this issue again.
I can't find anywhere in this forum how would you change your WiFi channel range from US to EU (i.e. 1-11 to 1-13). My Diamond was purchased in Australia and I was hoping that the new SW upgrade would rectify that, but it looks to me that's not the case. Any idea if that can be done in registry?
Thanks.

Change Channel range from 1-11 to 1-13
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Has anybody got any ideas how to increase the channel range from 1-11 to 1-13?

Hi, I am having a seperate problem from all that are listed. I have the linksys rangeplus router, and my Diamond wont even detect my network when it searches, yet my computer and PS3 do fine. Can anyone help me?

another problem...
Hi,
i have a problem with the wifi on my Diamond aswell..
I have a router at home which is encrypted. When I try to connect to it, I type the encryption key and it says Connected but i cant surf any pages. When i go back to wifi settings my home network switches between Not available and Connecting...
However, when i remove the encryption, everything seems to work fine. Since i dont want to treat my neighbors with free internet, does anyone have any tips for me?
(it is set to Best performance... +i'm sure i enter the right key...)
Thanx

The same over here... I found out, that some of cooked ROMs had this problem, but official worked. Before I couldn't connect via WPA2-PSK AES, all other encryptions worked. Until now... I tried to flash official ROM and RADIO, but it doesn't work anymore. I'm pretty sure it must be hardware problem. I need to send my Diamond to get fixed, but... The closest repair centre is in Prague (GSMobile)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT BE AWARE!!!!!!!!!!!
I owned previously Qtek8310. After I send them my Qtek to replace the joystick, it came back with broken motherboard... This repeated 3 times and everytime they broke something else. I've got my Qtek8310 back as a total crap, destroyed and scratched... I called and send a claim to HTC Europe in London, but nothing happened since then. I don't believe them anymore. If you love your Diamond avoid to get it fixed in GSMobile!

How to stop internet connection

A silly question by a new user: how is it possible to stop an internet or data connection (no matter if hsdpa, edge, gprs) once started?
Thanks

use 'long key press' in settings, can be set to disconnect a data connection (sdpa, edge, gprs)

Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity

jack1985 said:
Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity
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faulty url!
take this one:
GB-SOFT GPRS-UMTS_Tweak_WM6.1_Diamond
there you can choose the idle-time for disconnect

Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.

Poker85 said:
Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.
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Cool, also in stead of holding the end call button, wich locks the phone in my case,
Dubbelclicking the end call button alse ends my edge connection.

In order for your end key to stop the connection, you have to go to Settings>System>Long Press End Key>Select Terminate data connection
Then when you press and hold your end key, it will end the connection

if you prefer to stop internetconnection by shortcut, try VJKeyPress.exe 126
this one toggles internet connection

i've searched and i've searched and i cant find the resolve!
after retrieving hotmail, the connection stays active, meaning bars are lit up. for HOURS after unless i long-press-end key or something like that. even when i am surfing the web, after a page is fully loaded, the bars stay lit. on my old diamond, the bars used to go gray or "dormant" etc. therefore no tweaks i have found help (i.e. most operate with this rule "if the connection is dormant/inactive for xx minutes, turn off data" etc. well my connection remains ACTIVE unless i manually intervene)
what is causing this??? i only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite installed. stock ROM.

hello? anyone? NO one is having the same issue or can help with this??? at this point i'd even be happy with a rude comment about how i should learn how to search coupled with a few links to threads which contain the answers! :\

I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection

number16 said:
I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection
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number16, my savior! i'll try to explain as best i can: when the data connection is started/being used, those left-right arrows appear above the signal strength, correct? what i call "active" is when those arrows are lit (presumably when data is actually being transferred). what i call "dormant" is when the arrows are still there but are gray/not lit (i.e. connection is still open, but not currently transferring data). well, up until a 2 wks ago, all seemed fine - the arrows would briefly stay lit when downloading a page, connecting to hotmail, etc, but then would go gray once the transfer was complete. now however, the arrows stay lit. sometimes for hours at a time even tho nothing is running, no data (that i know of) is being transferred, etc.
so what i was saying is that, yes, i know i can long-press-end key to shut it down, but that only works if i notice it otherwise it's just draining my battery. (most times it is in my pocket, and since it checks hotmail periodically, the data connection may open and stay on without me noticing). and yes, i know about advanced config setting (and actually, i DO have it set to turn off after a minute) BUT that only applies if "connection is not active for more than a minute". i.e. since my whole problem is that my data connection technically stays active, that advanced config setting doesnt work.
so my question is, what is keeping the connection active? why is it doing this? i am running stock ROM and only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite loaded. and a few other minor tweaks via advanced config/regedit. i even tried spb wireless monitor to see what was active after a data transfer was complete (as far as i could tell) but it didnt really tell me anything.
does all that make sense?
thanks for any help you can provide...

wi-fi on/off automatically?

is there a way if any program needs connection the wifi to turn on and after exit of the program the wifi to turn off (not waiting 2-3-4min if there is no usage to turn off then)?
I have turned off the wifi for the battery life reasons, so when I need it any time I have to go into comm.manager and so on....

I'm actually using phoneweaver (not free), you can set profiles to switch on/off wifi at specific times. I can turn wifi on, but for some reason can't turn it off automatically, guess I'm a bit dumb to set it correctly, but it works for me.
there's another software called wifilocations (free), it seems to turn on/off wifi based on cell id's, haven't tried it but might work for you

I personally have set a hardware button to act as Wifi on/off (with AEBPlus) and just toggle it with a double press when I need it and when I'm done.

There is a wifi button on the keyboard (right arrow button)

True, I usually forget about that one. But then, I don't want to open the phone to turn Wifi on/off.

Prepare for something magical...
Ok so this isn't magical, in fact, it's just another .cab that you can remapp a button to, that's what I have done and I just toggle wifi on and off using it. Here is the .cab.

Somewhat related but does anyone know if it's possible to turn the phone off but leave wi-fi on ? If I'm at home, I want to have Skype running and receive calls like general mobile calls. Would also like to be available with Messenger too
C

Download KaiserTweak, it has an option to keep wifi on during standby.

Perfect thanks however .......
Anyone know how I can run Skype and/or WLM in background ? They seem to shut when I click X on them
C

Check you don't have a 3rd party program or HTC task manager set to "close" instead of "minimize" when tapping X.

Online radio streaming on nexus stops with screen off.

Have you guys have the same problem?tryed all the radios on the market..they stream perfectly on wifi ,but when i lock the screen it just stops streaming.If i turn the screen back starts as normal.Any idea how to get over this?

No problem for me with lastFM.

This should work ... but it doesn't
Just in case you haven't tried - in the settings menu, Wireless and Networks, Wi-Fi settings, then press menu again and find 'Advanced'. Here lives 'Wi Fi sleep policy'. It looks promising, the obvious move is to set this to 'Never'.
But it doesn't solve the problem. Like you I'm finding that it is a problem with all radio streamers, some worse than others. If I turn wireless off and use 3G its fine.
Thanks for posting the issue. I thought I was the only one.

No problems with TuneWiki over WiFi and 3G...

i find that even if you set the wifi never to sleep it still does. i frequently use aftp to transfer movies and stuff to my phone over my lan, so ill set it to transfer like 3 gigs of stuff and go to bed, even though its set never to sleep the socket still gets closed at some point at night. so id say your problem lies with wifi sleeping.
also some online radios stop automatically after a certain amount of time incase you arent listening anymore to save bandwithd

Maybe its in the app settings. You didnt specify which app it was also...

This might help
When you connect Wi-Fi make sure to turn off your cellular network. N1 has this weird problem where in as soon as screen is off, it drops the wi-fi connection and goes on to cellular network.
So if you switch off ur cellular network it maintains its Wi-Fi connection even when the screen is off.

SiNJiN76 said:
Maybe its in the app settings. You didnt specify which app it was also...
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i use mainly "AOnline radio" but i have tryed pretty much all from the market and all do the same. trying with the settings now..post if any change.
edit:yea still stops...strange try with gsm off and still same thing...is it there any solution to get over this thing?i just liten now with the screen on) eats the battery..it's ok but why not better?

The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.

robert-qfh said:
The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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i will check droidlive myself right now...thank you for explinations..is there a way to talk with cyan and maybe he could overpass that wifi sleepy thing.
edit: also noticed if you ahve a download or something and turn the screen off goes very slow..so this problem i think really have a priority to be solved.
edit2:still stops...what would be the thing?wifi priority changed.do you have any type of settings?full app?

I'm listening to a ShoutCast stream with AOnline right now, using WiFi, screen is off. Works perfectly. Do you see this problem with other access points, too?

SLightworkaround....
If you can keep it plugged in...set the SCREEEN TO NEVER SLEEP...under settings>>>applications>>>DEVELOPMENT>>>STAY AWAKE... hope that helps!

robert-qfh said:
The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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This is the problem yes... Just try to ping your N1 while turning the screen off/on... Ping jumps up as soon as the screen is turned off...
For me Streams stop when I have a weak signal to begin with, which does not get better when turning the screen off
"KeepScreen" might help...