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Android appDeck??

i remember using that site to download apps and stuff, anyone know what happen our fave site? or anything knows one similar?
thank you

johnphamiliar said:
i remember using that site to download apps and stuff, anyone know what happen our fave site? or anything knows one similar?
thank you
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Our favourite site? Some people believe dev's should be paid for their work...

You're gonna get in trouble for this.

Damn right... if you want an app bad enough, you should pay the dev who made it for you!

How do you guys know that he is talking about pirated apps? He didn't say anything about that in his post.
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If you are talking about pirated apps then really dude? Come on, most are a couple cents or a couple dollars tops which is a great price for all the that devs time and helps to insure that you get more updates and maybe more apps from him/her. Skip the restaurant that day and eat home and you can buy a couple apps that you'll get enjoyment out of a lot longer than that food. Just my opinion...

some people don't have credit cards or debit cards... Regardless I believe in supporting devs any way possible. ;] ;] ;]

I'm not going to criticize the guy because I can't say I've never "downloaded" an app for my PC or anything like that.
However, you should always have a look with android. It's "different" if you don't have money to pay for an app then the majority of the time you can find a similar one for free which does exactly the same thing. I find in a lot of cases Developers have a "free version" which is ad supported, that doesn't bother me and I just pick the free version.

G1-evolve said:
some people don't have credit cards or debit cards... Regardless I believe in supporting devs any way possible. ;] ;] ;]
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Or living in country where buying is not possible (like Poland)

Burag said:
Or living in country where buying is not possible (like Poland)
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Thats why u use Market Enabler....lol

Why's everyone so quick to hate on this guy, he just asked if there was a site where he could download android applications. Never said anything about pirated ones.
AndroidAppDeck yes had some pirated applications, but they also had free ones on their page as well.
As Daneshm90 mentioned, you might wanna search for the Market Enabler. If thats not an option there are sites like www.anda.pk that has a handful of apps you can D/L to your PC and install on your phone. If I come across any others I'll let you know.
So how about we actually answer this guys question and point him towards a legitimate solution rather than play finger pointer.
However as a developer myself (not of android), I will say if youre looking for pirated apps dont bother asking here.

there is this saying if you cant buy it...you dont need..lol

blapk Market and applanet
It´s open, called blapk market, now: blapkmarket(dot)com (they ask for a registration, takes a couple of days to approve)
Also there´s the applanet that don´t need registration, works better and has the same interface as the original Market app: applanet(dot)net/applanet
I have both, in case i can´t find an app in one i look into the other one.
PS.: Support the developers, if you download a paid app from there contact the developer to find a way to compensate him for his work. (they use to accept off-market payment)

Third party site SELLING paid apps

androidplayground (link removed to comply with forum rules, google and take the first result, it's the ****hole in question)
This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
They do have a contact page, why not let them know how much you appreciate your hard work being stolen?

Looks pretty shady anyway, I'd much rather use the Android Market.

I agree. Charging people do get software you stole is worse than stealing it in the first place IMO.

I feel like I just took a trip back to a 1997 Geocities website

this is pretty much a site that leads to warez and shouldnt be posted. i am just saying.

brian_v3ntura said:
this is pretty much a site that leads to warez and shouldnt be posted. i am just saying.
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And changed.

It's being hosted by hostedsolutions, their contact info is here:
http://www.hostedsolutions.com/contact/
I'm sure they'd like to know what's on their servers.

Wow that's ballsy.
They even link back to the xda forums for formatting and rooting info.
And Dev's they are taking paypal payments. File a complaint with Paypal too.
They used a privacy company to hide who they are.
And then they used Tucows address as their domain registration address?
The whois phone number rings to a looped recording telling you to go to the privacy companies website. Which does not seem to work.
To bad these A$$munchs didn't also make the stupid Android7 Flash Player. We could have killed 2 birds with one stone.

If the site ever starts 'offering' SetCPU, I will do whatever is in my legal power to take them down. I can't do anything about those Chinese or Russian websites, but if it's hosted in the USA, they're going down.

ThrashWolf said:
This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
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Piracy is piracy. Don't think somehow a for-free piracy distribution site is any more justified than a paid one. If anything, for-free distribution sites hurt developers more than paid sites: which one do you think attracts more pirates? (Note: Don't somehow come to the twisted conclusion that I support piracy of any kind; I don't.)

The difference between the two jashsu is that there is a large contingent of the "try before you buy" type of pirates out there. They'll get a warez version of an app, and if they like it, they'll often uninstall it and pay for the market version. However, if they pay for it through a third party website, the original developer never sees that profit.
Thats not to say I support piracy, because I dont. I fully believe that people should be compensated for hard work. I'm more than willing to pay for an app up front, and if it sucks, the dev will find out by reading the refund notice when i uninstall it within 24 hours.

kusotare said:
The difference between the two jashsu is that there is a large contingent of the "try before you buy" type of pirates out there.
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Please show me some numbers. To get the ball rolling, i'll post a link.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...-more-serious-than-first-though-on-iphone.ars
"The numbers that developers might find most interesting are the ones that show "conversion rates" from "lite" versions to full. Only one out of every 14 average users tends to purchase the paid version of an app after using the lite version, which is just under 7.5 percent. For pirates, the conversion rate is less than half a percent, or one out of every 233."

I download apps. If I like 'em, I pay for them. I'll usually go for a "lite" version if one exists. Anyway, rather than have this thread derailed into a debate about piracy, can we get back to the topic at hand?
I've notified the host, lets see if that does anything.

Sigh. Nothing like a little bit of piracy to set a forum on fire. Doesn't matter what forum you're visiting, could be a forum for food - and the first mention of piracy is bound to bring up what I like to call the forum nazis. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and no amount of gestapo trolling will change that. I find it interesting that people break various laws of various countries / cities / states daily and of course, it's overlooked. Someone makes mention of piracy and all of a sudden you've got the ePolice regime banging on your every post as if it were going to change something. What's my point? None, really. (But there again, there's also no point in bashing piracy, it's not going to make it any less existent.)

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Someone makes mention of piracy and all of a sudden you've got the ePolice regime banging on your every post as if it were going to change something.
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I hope you don't think that I assumed my post would change ThrashWolf's perception on piracy. I was merely pointing out how humorously sad this statement is:
This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
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I mean.. maybe i'm the only one who finds that just a bit hypocritical? I would have been completely okay if he/she just said "hey dudes, theres a paid piracy site, lets get it shut down" or "I like piracy". But to go and say "I am a pirate, but these other pirates disgust me".. idk.. maybe it's just me, but that's just ridiculous.
Then again what do I know?

Also they spam the android market with there links so make sure if you see it report it as spam.

Doesn't anyone pay for their apps anymore ...

I'll admit it, I pirate apps too, but only to either try it or if I have no other way to even purchase the application.
The thing is, being a high-schooler, I have a cheap, prepaid credit card that only allows transactions in USD. Many apps aren't available in the Market in currency other than Euros or Pounds so I have no other choice to use the apps than to pirate them.
This kind of behavior where people are selling pirated copies instead of just making it available for people who otherwise can't even buy them is really annoying though... anybody thought of a way to get them shut down?

I'm honestly debating to pay for a membership and email every dev that has an app on their. The other known site I've already found 6 apps from me on their and they were removed. But since this place charges just to get a peak I'm very tempted to pay and make sure every company knows and can write C&D's to them and the host.

Piracy is always going to be an issue. Always. I have pirated apps before, usually to test out an app update I have already downloaded and refunded from the marketplace. If the update fixes things I had issues with, I will buy it. If not, then I delete it. I have bought and kept 21 apps from the marketplace so far. I believe my use of pirated apps is fair.
I am not trying to justify piracy, but merely stating it is a great tool for me. I am aware that a lot of people pirate apps just so they don't have to pay for them. I believe that is wrong. However when comparing those who distribute an app for free to those that charge for an app that is not theirs, I believe that the one who distributes for free is the lesser of the two evils. The one who distributes for free is going to reach out to more of the potential market yes, but the scumbags who actually charge for apps that someone worked hard on are the true thieves IMO. They affect a lesser share of the potential market, but keep in mind their "share" is willing to make a purchase in the first place, while the freeloaders "share" is questionable in that department.
Just my 2 cents.

Where do I find WIDGET LOCKER download?

Where do I find WIDGET LOCKER download?

In the market, like most applications.
If you're looking for warez this is not the place. And you're a cheap douche if you do pirate it

zHk3R said:
In the market, like most applications.
If you're looking for warez this is not the place. And you're a cheap douche if you do pirate it
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Well said
Well worth the money IMHO, I think it was less than £2!

Ever thinked he might be unable to buy it, like me?

Holy crap, Google is your friend...
http://teslacoilsw.com/widgetlocker/buy
People are getting so lazy

Terepin said:
Ever thinked he might be unable to buy it, like me?
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But you're able to have an Android phone though, which is not the cheapest thing to buy. Makes no sense to me that argument of yours.

knabben said:
But you're able to have an Android phone though, which is not the cheapest thing to buy. Makes no sense to me that argument of yours.
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dude in some country you can't buy apps from market,because some country are not on market list for paid apps

market place or you can paypal the seller and get him to send u the apk file

knabben said:
But you're able to have an Android phone though, which is not the cheapest thing to buy. Makes no sense to me that argument of yours.
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Not all countries have the same paid apps. Some don't even have paid apps at all.
But as posted above, you can pay via the teslacoil website.
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market place or you can paypal the seller and get him to send u the apk file
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PayPal isn't supported in my country and neither is buying apps from play store. What am I supposed to do? I would love to pay royalties to the person that makes the apps I love but there is no possible way for me to do it. Banks here don't allow online transactions as well incase you're wondering. I depend on warez.

Firstyxd said:
PayPal isn't supported in my country and neither is buying apps from play store. What am I supposed to do? I would love to pay royalties to the person that makes the apps I love but there is no possible way for me to do it. Banks here don't allow online transactions as well incase you're wondering. I depend on warez.
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Wow, that's unfortunate. Relocate ftw
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swiftinmotion said:
Wow, that's unfortunate. Relocate ftw
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Holy Sh1t, where do u life? In a Bunker?

Firstyxd said:
PayPal isn't supported in my country and neither is buying apps from play store. What am I supposed to do? I would love to pay royalties to the person that makes the apps I love but there is no possible way for me to do it. Banks here don't allow online transactions as well incase you're wondering. I depend on warez.
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.... Where do you live? Even Indonesia support Paypal. BTW, you can go hunting at Google.

Why dont you guys put your apps in the market?

Is there a reason? I've used several nice apps from here, but just curious why you dont give them more exposure.

A lot of them are on the market, they are just posted here too.
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It costs money to get on the market. Xda is free. Would you rather get something for free here, or pay for it on the market?
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I think I remember reading in another thread that there was a fee you have to pay before putting apps on the market. I assume it doesn't matter if the app is free or not.
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voodoo55 said:
It costs money to get on the market. Xda is free.
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Thats true.
Its like 20$+ to be a developer for Android.
The devs may not be sure if they'll get that 20$+ back after putting it on the market and it doesn't sell as much... so they post it here

As a Dev $25 doesnt really matter to potentially get more exposure so I don't understand why other devs don't put their good apps on the market many of them are useful even for people other than power users

is $99 not $25 and not all devs are from market enabled countries

I'm pretty sure it's $25. The app store on iOS is 100.
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The only reason I can see besides the $25 or $99 fee is the ratings.
Once an app is posted to the market you have somewhere around 9.2 million Americans with access to your app. If your app has bugs or is not perfect from the start you start getting 1 star ratings. These ratings will slowly knock your app away from any sort of recognition.
Developers on XDA post there app here in order to receive constructive criticism, instead of a market comment like "App has Force Close Errors 1 star." Instead on XDA the developers can get and give ideas to other. Then when they seem like the app is fully tested they can choose to post it to the market.

geiko said:
I'm pretty sure it's $25. The app store on iOS is 100.
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The Android Market fee is a ONE-TIME $25. iOS is yearly.

Xda is a test bed for good ideas. Said good ideas get made into an app that gets throughly tested ppl with different phone models then the dev. Then the app can go to market.
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My apps are in the Android Market.

Mine is on the Market and has a thread on here, although I haven't attached the free APK to the thread.
And yeah, although the UI isn't great (I have plans for it) and I don't advertise a lot, I still managed to earn a little over $200 so far, making back well over the $25 I spent to be able to sell my app. It's worth it.

ironlood said:
Developers on XDA post there app here in order to receive constructive criticism, instead of a market comment like "App has Force Close Errors 1 star." Instead on XDA the developers can get and give ideas to other. Then when they seem like the app is fully tested they can choose to post it to the market.
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The above is a very good reason for posting your app elsewhere before publishing on the market. Most of the market reviews I've had regarding a problem didn't include any useful information on how to replicate the issue. For example, you'll typically get comments like "Freezes!" or "Force closes!" with no indication where in the app these problems occur. Likewise, identifying and fixing device specific issues is particularly difficult if you only rely on market reviews.

xriderx66 said:
Thats true.
Its like 20$+ to be a developer for Android.
The devs may not be sure if they'll get that 20$+ back after putting it on the market and it doesn't sell as much... so they post it here
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I'm not sure this is a big deterrent. It's a $25 one-time fee to publish as many apps as you want and you wouldn't need many sales or ad clicks to cover this cost.

agree....you will get more useful info alot faster on XDA regarding fuctionality and bug reports.

Alot of people just develop apps as a hobby with no intention of selling them. So why pay the $25?

and sometines you get banned without explanation so its a good place to upload you apk's google ban without send a warning maybe an icon, maybe something you did wrong and you couldnt fix they just ban and close you play store forever (and the next account you can made)

I put my Apps both on here and on the App Store.
I don't make any money from my apps, but I love Android because it's only a one time fee of $25 to publish apps to Android.
I was going to start with iOS but that's $100 yearly. Kind of ridiculous in my opinion.

Yup, Google Play is only a 1 time fee of $25. I dont think devs should be afraid of low ratings. You can't satisfy everyone. I get requests daily about what I should include in the app. There a lot of ideas and for a 99 cent app, I'm just not sure its worth it to build all these ideas into the app. The ones I do pay attention to are the ones where they say something doesn't work or it crashes when this or that happens.

Releasing a Paid App on Google Play Store -- Tax?

I am nearing the finishing and release phase of an app I've been working on and so I was going through creating a Merchant Account since it will be a paid app. There were two things that stopped me, however. One was the website which I have created and will be uploading in a bit.
The thing that caused me to pause creating the Merchant Account was the "Legal Business information" section. Do I need to be aware of anything here, legal-wise? I mean, I'm just a software developer for my 9-5 and work on this Android app in my spare time. Do I need to have anything setup, legally (I dunno, an LLC? Or whatever)? Can I just use my full name for the "Business Name?"
Sorry if it's a dumb question but I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I jump into it. Thanks for any help, I appreciate it guys.

clamum said:
I am nearing the finishing and release phase of an app I've been working on and so I was going through creating a Merchant Account since it will be a paid app. There were two things that stopped me, however. One was the website which I have created and will be uploading in a bit.
The thing that caused me to pause creating the Merchant Account was the "Legal Business information" section. Do I need to be aware of anything here, legal-wise? I mean, I'm just a software developer for my 9-5 and work on this Android app in my spare time. Do I need to have anything setup, legally (I dunno, an LLC? Or whatever)? Can I just use my full name for the "Business Name?"
Sorry if it's a dumb question but I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I jump into it. Thanks for any help, I appreciate it guys.
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From what i know you do not need to be a business in order to submit app's to the play store and can use your name as the developer/business name

Ma$etas said:
From what i know you do not need to be a business in order to submit app's to the play store and can use your name as the developer/business name
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Thanks for the reply. Last night after posting this I looked at the "Create Merchant Account" form and I didn't see anything to do with tax, either there or the other places I looked in the Developer Console. I swear I had saw something to do with tax when I first looked at the process but maybe I'm getting confused with something else I've read.

clamum said:
Thanks for the reply. Last night after posting this I looked at the "Create Merchant Account" form and I didn't see anything to do with tax, either there or the other places I looked in the Developer Console. I swear I had saw something to do with tax when I first looked at the process but maybe I'm getting confused with something else I've read.
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NO problem.. Good luck with your app.
Im currently trying to learn how to create/write code . I have some ideas for some apps that i think would be good. Which is why i looked up the info on how to submit apps to the playstore.

clamum said:
Thanks for the reply. Last night after posting this I looked at the "Create Merchant Account" form and I didn't see anything to do with tax, either there or the other places I looked in the Developer Console. I swear I had saw something to do with tax when I first looked at the process but maybe I'm getting confused with something else I've read.
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Just like to add something here.
Google in general takes a "it's up to you" approach when it comes to taxes. That is, you are supposed to determine whether anything is taxable, and remit them by yourself if it is.
I heard some countries have a sales tax/VAT that's applicable even you don't have any business physically located in that country. But I haven't heard of any dev having trouble with this and so this is kind of in a grey area.
The good news is that for EU countries and Brazil (they DO have the above-stated VAT), Google will pay it for you. The bad news is that the tax will be deducted from your income. I usually set the price for EU and Brazil higher to compensate for this.
Also, you may also need to pay income tax and/or state tax etc. I don't live in the US so I don't know much about this.
It'd be better if you can find a decent tax advisor for this. But I know it's difficult.
Good luck and happy publishing on Google Play

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Just like to add something here.
Google in general takes a "it's up to you" approach when it comes to taxes. That is, you are supposed to determine whether anything is taxable, and remit them by yourself if it is.
I heard some countries have a sales tax/VAT that's applicable even you don't have any business physically located in that country. But I haven't heard of any dev having trouble with this and so this is kind of in a grey area.
The good news is that for EU countries and Brazil (they DO have the above-stated VAT), Google will pay it for you. The bad news is that the tax will be deducted from your income. I usually set the price for EU and Brazil higher to compensate for this.
Also, you may also need to pay income tax and/or state tax etc. I don't live in the US so I don't know much about this.
It'd be better if you can find a decent tax advisor for this. But I know it's difficult.
Good luck and happy publishing on Google Play
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Hmmm. Do you think a tax advisor would understand or have sufficient knowledge about mobile apps on the Google Play store to give advice?
So it sounds like for EU countries and Brazil I'd want to do the same thing (raise price a bit for the app). I doubt many people are even going to download this thing but I like to know what I'm getting into before I just jump into something. Thanks for your help.

clamum said:
Hmmm. Do you think a tax advisor would understand or have sufficient knowledge about mobile apps on the Google Play store to give advice?
So it sounds like for EU countries and Brazil I'd want to do the same thing (raise price a bit for the app). I doubt many people are even going to download this thing but I like to know what I'm getting into before I just jump into something. Thanks for your help.
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Well this is Google's official recommendation.
But I don't really know if a tax advisor will help, because I jumped in before finding one.