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Yesterday was a glorious sunny day over here (Paris) and the Diamond screen was amazingly readable even in full direct sun light, whatever application I used.
The screen seems to be polarized and even colors can be guessed.
Compared to my Artemis, which is unusable in such a situation, HTC made a giant leap in this area.
That was my contribution for today.
Tested the USB cable and tried to connect it to my Car Stereo thru USB.
just choosed disc on my diamond when connected and i could listen too music.
And the diamond went charging my phone too thru the usb from Car Stereo.
Apologize for poor English at some points.
Silverspider said:
Yesterday was a glorious sunny day over here (Paris) and the Diamond screen was amazingly readable even in full direct sun light, whatever application I used.
The screen seems to be polarized and even colors can be guessed.
Compared to my Artemis, which is unusable in such a situation, HTC made a giant leap in this area.
That was my contribution for today.
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I completely agree with you, when the Diamond was first released and people were asking questions about whether its readable in sunlight I always said it was.
Nice to know im being backed up!
Most phones ive had have been, to be honest, rubbish in sunlight, almost impossible to read, the Diamond however is excellent! Its all down to the light sensor near the speaker at the top of the phone.
Thumbs up HTC!
I have purchased a Diamond2 after having the Touch Diamond for a while.
I have noticed that the screen on the Diamond2 is not as whte as the D1. The "white colours" and backgrounds seem to be an off-white or even a faint yellow tint. Putting the Touch Diamond and D2 side by side I can notice an obvious difference in the whites.
Is this due to inferior LCD's (if so SHAME on you HTC) or can this be corrected by a hue enhancing application?
I also noticed that the font in the new contacts feature lacks contrast and is faint.
Has anyone else noticed these 2 things?
Aussie
aussie1234 said:
I have purchased a Diamond2 after having the Touch Diamond for a while.
I have noticed that the screen on the Diamond2 is not as whte as the D1. The "white colours" and backgrounds seem to be an off-white or even a faint yellow tint. Putting the Touch Diamond and D2 side by side I can notice an obvious difference in the whites.
Is this due to inferior LCD's (if so SHAME on you HTC) or can this be corrected by a hue enhancing application?
I also noticed that the font in the new contacts feature lacks contrast and is faint.
Has anyone else noticed these 2 things?
Aussie
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Different LCDs have different "default" color temperatures, that's to be expected....and as the new screen is of different size and resolution, possibly from a different manufacturer that the TD1, the color temperature of the TD2 display (warmer = white tends to be yellowish, colder = white tends to be bluish) is almost certainly different from the TD1 one.
What is surprising me is that you report that the TD2 is warmer than the TD1...
Based on the picture here
http://blog.omio.com/wp-content/diamond1vs2.png
I would have expected the opposite, because there u can clearly see that the TD2 is colder than TD1. Maybe it is your device that is different, or maybe it depend on the backlight intensity (although it is unlikely, reviews do not mention it and it should be quite visible)...Could you post pictures of the two screens side-by-side?
Colour Tone D1 vs D2
Hi gkai
My wife is using the D1 and when she comes home from work I will photo the two together.
The photo in the link is interesting - it's the exact opposite of what I am experiencing!
Aussie
I have it too on mine, a slight yellowish tint, not too bad, but now that you mention it, it is a little saddening.
I just think it's that .... Not all LCD's are created equal. There are a lot of things that probably effect how the LCD looks. I mean My HP computer next to my sisters and next to my brothers with the default settings all look slightly different. Mebe there is an app that will let us adjust the hue?
htc buy lcd from 2 suppliers , this is the same as for first diamond and for touch HD , one supplier do his lcd white yellowish and the other do white bluish
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htc buy lcd from 2 suppliers , this is the same as for first diamond and for touch HD , one supplier do his lcd white yellowish and the other do white bluish
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wow, i was not aware that they used 2 different LCD sources for the same models, that is quite strange. For 2 different models, no problem, but for 1 model, I would have expected that quality control would not tolerate such variations...
Good to know, now I cross finger for the colder hue (personal preference, i prefer colder displays in general)...
Every ODM/OEM does this. Apple does it too with iPhone and iPod Touch.
Yip - I noticed this too. Got mine this afternoon, had the TD1 since launch. Screen appears less vibrant - less white and less sharp
R
I have seen Diamonds with "cool" and Diamonds with "warm" screens. It's normal.
There must be an app for this, even in theory
the tcpmp app can change its' video output settings, and i know there are programs by nyditot for virtual screen sizes, we must be able to make a "display properties" app?
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the tcpmp app can change its' video output settings, and i know there are programs by nyditot for virtual screen sizes, we must be able to make a "display properties" app?
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Not so sure about that, the main reason why I have some doubt is that WinMo support only 16 bit colors (65535 different colors).
So basically there is 2 possibilities:
1) The colors are taken from a color lookup table coded on 24 bits, which give for each of the 65535 possibilities R, G and B value coded on 8 bits.
2) The colors are fixed, maybe using 5 bits for 32 levels of Red, 5 bit on Green, and 5 bits on Blue (1 bit may represent transparent state, or complementary, or be unused...)
if 1), easy, correcting the screen is just a matter of changing the colors in the lookup table, and with 8 bits (256 levels) to play with for R, G and B, you can fool the eye. Only problem is to find the lookup table in memory.
if 2), it is much more difficult (colors are hardcoded everywhere), and 32 levels is not enough to fool the eye anyways, it would lead to strange color effects, probably not worth it.
Last possibility, that the LCD controller of MSM7200 have some parameters that are software-tunable. Then, it may include a color correction.... I doubt this, but there is certainly somebody here that can tell
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wow, i was not aware that they used 2 different LCD sources for the same models, that is quite strange. For 2 different models, no problem, but for 1 model, I would have expected that quality control would not tolerate such variations.....
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Also quite common in flatscreen TVs, laptops and LCD monitors as well. Very common.
LCDs screens are more or less a commodity by now, so its just a matter of defining specs and size.
Visibility on sunlight
Hello good people, owners of D2...
I am now using Trinity, and I had Artemis before.
But before Artemis I had Axim x50v...
Eversince I have started using HTC devices, one thing bothers me very much.
I live in Israel, and as you probably know/heard , we have sunny days here, most time of the year. So, the problem is, to, actually, see anything on the screen of my HTC device,when I am outside, on sunlight. Dell wasn't perfect also (Nokia is still the best),but it was like 10 times better than HTC.
I am planning to upgrade to D2, but that visibility issue is crucial for me.
Few days ago I had a chance to play with HD, and saw that it has some "new
technology" screen, which was much more visible on sunlight.
Does D2 use same "new technology" screen, or , in general, is it well visible
on sunlight?
Thank you in advance!
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Hello good people, owners of D2...
I am now using Trinity, and I had Artemis before.
But before Artemis I had Axim x50v...
Eversince I have started using HTC devices, one thing bothers me very much.
I live in Israel, and as you probably know/heard , we have sunny days here, most time of the year. So, the problem is, to, actually, see anything on the screen of my HTC device,when I am outside, on sunlight. Dell wasn't perfect also (Nokia is still the best),but it was like 10 times better than HTC.
I am planning to upgrade to D2, but that visibility issue is crucial for me.
Few days ago I had a chance to play with HD, and saw that it has some "new
technology" screen, which was much more visible on sunlight.
Does D2 use same "new technology" screen, or , in general, is it well visible
on sunlight?
Thank you in advance!
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D2 is like or a little better than HD in sunlight
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D2 is like or a little better than HD in sunlight
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it's still not that good though!
I have to turn away from the sun to actually see anything on my screen
I have a TD2 my mate has a HD, yesterday we were comparing the screens outside in bright sunlight and to me, they both looked pretty similar - i.e still hard to read but better than my wifes LG Renoir which we coulcn't see at all. I have yet to come across any phone that performs really well in direct sunlight, not that it bothers me - don't get much sunshine where I live!!
Thank you very much for your answers, and for helping me to make a decision!
If it is like HD, it means it is much better than Trinity...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CoSQPuW2xA
I saw this video, and the yellow tint appears to be very prominent. I have two questions:
Is it really this bad in person, particularly regarding video playback? Can it possibly be a alleviated/fixed with a firmware update like on the iphone? http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/07/tip-updating-iphone-to-3a347-reduces-yellow-tinge.ars
Hi
Aisorik said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CoSQPuW2xA
I saw this video, and the yellow tint appears to be very prominent. I have two questions:
Is it really this bad in person, particularly regarding video playback? Can it possibly be a alleviated/fixed with a firmware update like on the iphone? http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/07/tip-updating-iphone-to-3a347-reduces-yellow-tinge.ars
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You can not look at a photograph or video to determine the screens colour temperature or bias towards being a cold or warm white, this is because the equipment recording the screen is unlikely to be able to adjust it's white balance setting accurately, so you are not watching a true representation, and if was completely accurate, the white balance would then be as your monitor presents it.
On mine the screen the looks a warmer white compared to a Tytn II which looks more cold, both are absolutely okay.
Regards
Phil
I've heard so many mixed perspectives.
The way I see it, S-OLED should be the best in the bunch.
Followed by OLED and then TFT..
I've heard about the nexus display looking "unnatural" from engadget, whatever that means..
Some people are saying that the upcoming sprint evo 4g has a brighter and simply better (4.3") screen.
Apart from the size, the screen technology is just TFT.
In the computer LCD world, i have heard more bad than good about TFT, so what's the deal?
Right now I have a 24" 1080p TFT LCD Monitor, and I think it's beautiful.
I haven't had much to compare it to though.
It's not the greatest screen I've seen, but it's definitely nice.
I have both an HD2 and a Nexus One. The HD2 has a 4.3" TFT display and looks gorgeous. It doesn't have a very defined pixel grid look that you can see if you stare at your Nexus One up close, so it looks more blended.
On the flip side, the Nexus One's vibrancy is hands down better. While watching movies on the HD2, I loved the size of the image, but to be honest, I prefer the color of the Nexus One's screen.
Outside in the sunlight, the HD2 wins. It still gets horrible glare, but no where near as bad as the Nexus One.
With all of that being said, I prefer the Nexus One's screen. Not going to talk about the size differences and their pros and cons, because that's a separate subject altogether. I'm mostly indoors for my job, and being a graphics designer, I enjoy the contrast that the OLED screen can deliver. It's not exactly color accurate, but since this is a phone and not being used as a design device, it doesn't matter...it looks gorgeous. So long as people don't appear as orange aliens, I enjoy the contrast. (Go stare at some of the TVs on display in major retail stores...they jack the contrast up to ridiculous levels to try to wow the viewer, but make things look downright stupid)
I see, that's pretty much like I expected.
The OLED displays will have a more pixel grid display because each pixel is actually a tiny LED. For me that's fine, as long as its not blatant.
So then the best choice would probably be AMOLED that's good in sunlight aka super amoled.
Have you tried playing with the brightness in the sunlight?
I haven't actually experienced an amoled screen yet, but i would think that if you turned the brightness up to max it would like quite okay in the sun.
At least that's how my G1 (TFT LCD) was.
Thanks for the input btw!
From the start I could not understand the positive voices for the AMOLED display. I had a Galaxy and I hated it. Now I have the Nexus and I hate the UNNATURAL colours. They are ghastly! If I had the choice between a Nexus with TFT or AMOLED screen I would certainly pick a TFT.
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I have both an HD2 and a Nexus One. The HD2 has a 4.3" TFT display and looks gorgeous. It doesn't have a very defined pixel grid look that you can see if you stare at your Nexus One up close, so it looks more blended.
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isnt the supersonics screen a little brighter and more vibrant than the hd2? it sure seemed soo in the pictures and videos i saw
I have the two available high-end android devices - the Milestone (GSM version of the Droid, though with non-unlockable bootloader :-( ) and the Nexus One.
The 'stone has a 854x480 TFT, and the N1 has an 800x480 AMOLED.
Inside, the N1 screen wins - it is incredibly bright, less battery hungry, and has notably better contrast. The Milestone is good, but the N1 is better.
Another N1 advantage is that, even though both screens are 3.7 inches, the milestone is taller and narrower in portrait mode, making the portrait-mode keyboard harder to use for those of us with freakishly-large hands.
Outside, however, it just isn't even close. The Milestone is the best color screen I've ever seen on a large screen phone under bright light. It is absolutely usable in bright sunlight - you can take photos, check out a youtube video, read your RSS feeds, tweets, maps, whatever with absolutely no problem at all. The N1 is almost unusable in direct sunlight - there is just too much glare from the substrate and touch layers. And if you are also wearing sunglasses, forget it, you can't see a thing. Even an iPhone 3GS or iPod Touch (3rd gen) are mush less readable in bright conditions than the Milestone.
Samsung's new S-AMOLED is meant to bond the touch layer into the AMOLED surface directly, taking out a glare / difraction / etc. layer, and making the screen good in bright light. I have my doubts that it will be as good as a strong TFT in those conditions, but we'll see. It will certainly be thinner, better indoors and less power hungry
I don't have yet a N1 but I had the samsung Jet back in fall ,it had an amoled screen. It was quite good under sunlight,colors are washed out but you can clearly read SMS text or use the menu.
Now playing games in summer at the beach at 12am...forget about it and try take spy pics of string gurls with your 5mp
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I see, that's pretty much like I expected.
The OLED displays will have a more pixel grid display because each pixel is actually a tiny LED. For me that's fine, as long as its not blatant.
So then the best choice would probably be AMOLED that's good in sunlight aka super amoled.
Have you tried playing with the brightness in the sunlight?
I haven't actually experienced an amoled screen yet, but i would think that if you turned the brightness up to max it would like quite okay in the sun.
At least that's how my G1 (TFT LCD) was.
Thanks for the input btw!
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Yeah, even with the Nexus One set to 100%, the readability is around the HD2 with 50-60% brightness outside. Thankfully it is only a problem in direct sunlight.
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isnt the supersonics screen a little brighter and more vibrant than the hd2? it sure seemed soo in the pictures and videos i saw
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I believe they are the same screen in both devices, but could be wrong. We'll have to wait until they can do a proper side by side with the exact same lightness settings.
A 4.3" Super AMOLED screen would be nice. I would never buy a phone with a bigger display than that, because it would become uncomfortable to use, and at that point, you might as well just buy a tablet.
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From the start I could not understand the positive voices for the AMOLED display. I had a Galaxy and I hated it. Now I have the Nexus and I hate the UNNATURAL colours. They are ghastly! If I had the choice between a Nexus with TFT or AMOLED screen I would certainly pick a TFT.
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I would suggest you have a screen that is defective if it has really noticeable colour deviations.
Obviously it's not a properly colour calibrated display, but everything looks perfectly natural on mine (skin tones etc), with no significant over saturation or hue shifts.
yeah, I'm a big outdoor guy and not looking forward to dealing with this screen outdoors....sucks.
Whatever happened to transflective technology...loved that on my old tilt.
Guys, aren't there screen cover/protectors that deflect or whatever and that make the screen readable in sunlight?
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yeah, I'm a big outdoor guy and not looking forward to dealing with this screen outdoors....sucks.
Whatever happened to transflective technology...loved that on my old tilt.
Guys, aren't there screen cover/protectors that deflect or whatever and that make the screen readable in sunlight?
thanks
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There are anti-glare protectors that help eliminate some of the glare by dispursing it better, but even then it's still pretty bad. The main issue is due to having no backlight like a TFT.
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I would suggest you have a screen that is defective if it has really noticeable colour deviations.
Obviously it's not a properly colour calibrated display, but everything looks perfectly natural on mine (skin tones etc), with no significant over saturation or hue shifts.
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No, there is nothing wrong with the colour calibration. Girlfriend has also got a Nexus and I have seen others and even on photos here on the internet you can see the unnatural colours of the screen.
Have a look at the first post where you can find the question, if it were true that the colours are unnatural referring to Engadget. And yes, the colours are unnatural. I like the Nexus, do not get me wrong, but I do not like the colours of AMOLED screens. They are awful.
rockky said:
yeah, I'm a big outdoor guy and not looking forward to dealing with this screen outdoors....sucks.
Whatever happened to transflective technology...loved that on my old tilt.
Guys, aren't there screen cover/protectors that deflect or whatever and that make the screen readable in sunlight?
thanks
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There are definitely protectors that do that, but I don't like the feel of anything but glass on a touch screen.. That's just me though.
Hey I noticed in your sig that you have an iphone and nexus, how would you compare the two? The screen and everything else (you should make another thread for that though).
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Yeah, even with the Nexus One set to 100%, the readability is around the HD2 with 50-60% brightness outside. Thankfully it is only a problem in direct sunlight.
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Damn that's pretty bad, cause with the TFT on my G1 I always had to turn it up to max to get a decent display.
So assuming the HD2 is similar (same technology), then AMOLED must be pretty bad in sunlight.
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I don't have yet a N1 but I had the samsung Jet back in fall ,it had an amoled screen. It was quite good under sunlight,colors are washed out but you can clearly read SMS text or use the menu.
Now playing games in summer at the beach at 12am...forget about it and try take spy pics of string gurls with your 5mp
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Lol, spy pics.
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I have the two available high-end android devices - the Milestone (GSM version of the Droid, though with non-unlockable bootloader :-( ) and the Nexus One.
The 'stone has a 854x480 TFT, and the N1 has an 800x480 AMOLED.
Inside, the N1 screen wins - it is incredibly bright, less battery hungry, and has notably better contrast. The Milestone is good, but the N1 is better.
Another N1 advantage is that, even though both screens are 3.7 inches, the milestone is taller and narrower in portrait mode, making the portrait-mode keyboard harder to use for those of us with freakishly-large hands.
Outside, however, it just isn't even close. The Milestone is the best color screen I've ever seen on a large screen phone under bright light. It is absolutely usable in bright sunlight - you can take photos, check out a youtube video, read your RSS feeds, tweets, maps, whatever with absolutely no problem at all. The N1 is almost unusable in direct sunlight - there is just too much glare from the substrate and touch layers. And if you are also wearing sunglasses, forget it, you can't see a thing. Even an iPhone 3GS or iPod Touch (3rd gen) are mush less readable in bright conditions than the Milestone.
Samsung's new S-AMOLED is meant to bond the touch layer into the AMOLED surface directly, taking out a glare / difraction / etc. layer, and making the screen good in bright light. I have my doubts that it will be as good as a strong TFT in those conditions, but we'll see. It will certainly be thinner, better indoors and less power hungry
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I know the AMOLED's are pretty great indoors, but when you say incredibly bright... If viewing late at night in bed for example, is it too bright even on the lowest setting?
I'd like a phone that can be very dim or very bright.
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From the start I could not understand the positive voices for the AMOLED display. I had a Galaxy and I hated it. Now I have the Nexus and I hate the UNNATURAL colours. They are ghastly! If I had the choice between a Nexus with TFT or AMOLED screen I would certainly pick a TFT.
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Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
@topdnbass
Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
Yes, I have. I do it all the time, as I have still a G1 to compare the Nexus with. If it is "THAT bad" I can't say only that I do not like it and that I would certainly prefer a TFT if had the choice.
Why do you think did the guys from Engadget think the colours to be "unnatural"?
In the end it might not matter that much as it doesn't reduce the functions of the gadget. Other people might even like it, I do not.
S.
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@topdnbass
Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
Yes, I have. I do it all the time, as I have still a G1 to compare the Nexus with. If it is "THAT bad" I can't say only that I do not like it and that I would certainly prefer a TFT if had the choice.
Why do you think did the guys from Engadget think the colours to be "unnatural"?
In the end it might not matter that much as it doesn't reduce the functions of the gadget. Other people might even like it, I do not.
S.
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i personally love it..the colors pop out they look gorgeous
Compared to TFT capacitive screens Amoled are less good under sunlight but they are still usable and certainly much more than HTC WM phones like Diamond and Touch HD
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@topdnbass
Have you compared side-by-side? I can't believe that they're THAT bad.
Yes, I have. I do it all the time, as I have still a G1 to compare the Nexus with. If it is "THAT bad" I can't say only that I do not like it and that I would certainly prefer a TFT if had the choice.
Why do you think did the guys from Engadget think the colours to be "unnatural"?
In the end it might not matter that much as it doesn't reduce the functions of the gadget. Other people might even like it, I do not.
S.
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You seem to put a lot of faith in what Engadget says. I'm not saying that everything is perfectly flat, but I have a few hundred perfectly-exposed photos from my Nikon D90, all taken with pro glass, on my Nexus, and the colors are not bad at all. They are, well, let's call them "well saturated", but nothing remotely unpleasant - to be honest, given the tiny screen (I take photos be be blown up BIG), the saturation is probably an advantage. And they look notably, even considerably better on the N1 than on an iPhone / iPod touch third-gen.
All of that is my opinion - and I like saturated colors. But I also like skin that still looks like skin, and the N1 delivers that to my eyes.
Gee, didn't I say that it is my opinion and that others might think differently? What you call saturated colours I call unnatural and for me and maybe only for me the colours are an eyesore, but I like the Nexus nevertheless.
big_adventure, you gave me a thought.
I think the best way to really compare these technologies is to have the same image of something, like a HQ picture of your skin.
On both of the phones.
Then compare the output to eachother and to the real life color of your skin.
I said to compare to eachother because a cameras snapshot can change the color, flash, settings, and what not.
Sounds stupid, but maybe what some people define as unnatural on a display, is actually quite natural.
Don't compare how the android OS looks, compare an image within the OS.
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Now playing games in summer at the beach at 12am...forget about it and try take spy pics of string gurls with your 5mp
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Well, if you are going to be wandering around a beach at midnight you probably won't run into too many girls to take pictures of. And they'd probably notice the flash going off so it wouldn't be much of a "spy shot".
(Edit: To be fair, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock#Confusion_at_noon_and_midnight mentions that am/pm by definition don't make any sense for noon and midnight and are thus often confused. But, the sources it quotes that do assign meaning to 12am and 12pm all seem to call 12am midnight and 12pm noon. It's probably why most of the parking signs in SF are now starting to use "12:01am" when they want to talk about late night street cleaning restrictions...that, and the fact that 12am is also ambiguous as to whether it refers to the start of a day or the end of a day...)
But all the negativity and *****ing has me worried ..
- How is the brightness ? Too dark ?
- How are colors ?
- How is battery life compared to HTC one ?
- How bad is the camera auto mode ?
- I suppose a case is essential given the glass build, does it become too bulky as a result ?
I read reviews and watched youtube videos of course, but I need real world input from .. y'know casual humans not corps and sites ..
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If you have doubts, you should not take this phone
I am very happy so far. Sure,the camera is not perfect but most of the time the pictures are really good. Far better than s4 another rest can manage. I also belive that it will improve as it has a larger sensor than the rest of the Android bunch.
I use the screen at maybe 25% and that is enough for me, it has better viewability outside than my old s3.
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Brightness is very high and the darks are also good i dnt know abt the htc one so cant compare
Colors are u can go and check the demo unit
Battery life is fantastic i get 5-6 hrs of on screen time
Camera is also fantastic
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Okay, so just for reference, id been out and looked at this phone in the shops and was massively disappointed with the screen (colours washed out, blacks looked grey etc). I did however take a massive risk after I had one of my uncles tell me how good the phone is and I am in all honesty VERY impressed.
For reference, I bought my handset from handtec, which if you check the screen problems thread is one where everyone who has said they bought them from this shop have not had any funky screen issues, which essentially pushed me to buy it from there.
To answer your questions:
1. Screen brightness for me is not a problem, I have a matte screen protector and although it slightly affects the overall output its not a problem. I have left it on the default setting and have not once had an issue with seeing the screen in bright sunlight or even indoors. Blacks look great.
2. Colours really do pop, the range of colours produced is amazing. I have a Nokia 920 which I think gives great colours. I have seen some photos on the 920 look better and then photos on the z1 look better, you wont be disappointed.
3. No idea, dont own one
4. To me this is something completely overblown. Day time shots are fantastic, Night time shots are as bad as any other phone. Im not a camera specialist and anyone feel free to correct me on this, but it looks like the iso is set really high and the aperture all the way open to offset having a fast shutter speed, leaving super grainy pictures with little to no blur.
5. Waiting on a case But this comes down to the case you choose...
1. Brightness is good enough, usually have the phone at 40-45% brightness... I like the HTC One screen better though. The Z1 screen is more, bland. The One screen speaks more to me.
2. At the moment a yellowish hue, believe it's introduced in the 534 firmware and should be fixable in future updates. Overall fine though. Viewing angles aren't great, but not an issue for me as I don't look at the phone from an angle when using it myself.
3. Comparable imo, can easily get 1 day and if I use it a bit less about 2 days on a singel charge with both devices.
4. Fine with proper lighting, but has a tendency to bump the ISO values bigtime (prolly in order to keep shuttertimes low, but resulting in quite some noise).
5. No idea, not using a case but it's big enough already without one.
Hi Fatelord,
Your thread has been moved from Xperia Z1 General to Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. PLease post in the correct sub-forum in future.
--wedgess
I've scoured the reviews for the MX2 and not found a definitive answer. In another thread I've seen at least one person say that the screen is terrible/unreadable in direct sunlight. Hard for me to believe that the reviewers who, for the most part sing the praises of this phone, would ignore such an important feature. Also, can't understand why current users aren't complaining in greater numbers if the screen is that bad.
Is the screen TERRIBLE/UNREADABLE in direct sunlight? Do you have to "search for shade" to read it? Are complaints reduced on this issue because people accept it due to the overall "goodness" of the phone?
It's readable, but not bright by any means. I have yet to find something I can't read/see in the sun, but it's not as colorful our vibrant as indoors/night.
Agree, it's definitely not terrible or unreadable. In direct sunlight it's not the best screen, but looks OK on fill brightness. I wouldn't let this stop me from owning the phone.