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I know there is already a post on this, but it applied mostly to grey market diamonds. I would like to hear from some people who have recently bought official HTC diamonds from their service providers.
My phone's screen is perfect. No yellow tints and no lines/rainbowing. However, the top and bottom panels are not flush with one another meaning that at a certain angle, the backlight bleads out a little on the left side where the panels meet. In addition, the top panel does not align with the rim of the phone properly so that there is a thin gap - this is quite annoying as the gap appears to have already accumilated dust/lint.
My phone is from Orange and I received it a few days ago. I can't say that these 'issues' bother me too much, but I would like to hear how common they are and whether they might pose problems etc. If this is a rarity and I have been unlucky I may consider swapping it for another Diamond.
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S.
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Why the silence guys? :-(
Share your thoughts please. I lead a pretty hectic life so build is v. important for me, so your opinions/perspectives would really help.
Only thing I have noticed on mine is that the printed ring around the wheely thingy is not central.
Seriously, I think it's fine.
My Diamond is perfect. Came from my provider here in Finland, and no issues with build quality at all.
Probably not silence, more likely most have no issues!
Certainly none with mine.
I have a TMobile MDA Vario IV Compact and have no hardware build quality issues (don't get me started on the default software branding ! YUCK !)
Fair enough. The question is, do I swap this diamond which works flawlessly and has a great screen, for another which in all probability will not, for the sake of cosmetic perfection?
I'm thinking NO.
Grey market ?!
My HTC is 100% official but I bought it directly from a high street dealer rather than from my GSM provider.
I usually do that for two reasons - Firstly it's quicker when you want to get hold of new trendy phones Secondly I don't have to bother with simlocking and operator limitations
....and the rebate is often better.
Please don't think that only operator branded copies are genuine.
BTW - You should keep your handset if you're happy with it
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Only thing I have noticed on mine is that the printed ring around the wheely thingy is not central.
Seriously, I think it's fine.
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i have the same problem .. .. well it isnt really a problem at all ... and i have a dead pixel .. but just 1 pixel in a 640x480 screen is not noticeable at all
perfect diamond here. got it from provider first day it came.
got mine today on t-mobile uk. its perfect!
Had mine since it was launched on Orange and the only problem I have is one dead pixel which is stuck on blue. It's almost impossible to see without really looking for it though so doesn't really bother me.
same here.. bought it from vodafone. not a single *build* flaw
So no-one can see any amount of white light leakage through a tiny gap where the two panels meet then? I must have an extremely rare phone! lol.
I have a slight gap with light leakage, doesn't bother me as you can't really tell with the top and bottom screen protector on and lined up peroperly.
I don't think its very rare as I've seen a few video's with the same problem. I read someone on here had the same issue and tried returning it but was apparently told it was within HTC's build tolerance.
When you say screen protector, do you mean a third-party one you have bought yourself?
Interesting re HTC build tolerance. Hmm...
I use a martin fields protector which comes with the screen protector and a protector for the bottom button bit.
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I have a slight gap with light leakage, doesn't bother me as you can't really tell with the top and bottom screen protector on and lined up peroperly.
I don't think its very rare as I've seen a few video's with the same problem. I read someone on here had the same issue and tried returning it but was apparently told it was within HTC's build tolerance.
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I have this "gap" as well, but it is miniscual and I'm sure its on most of the devices....you just have to look real Hard.
My gf's Diamond is almost perfect. I just noticed the stylus to be slightly misplaced... But she didn't even noticed it, so it's not a big deal.
Mine looks perfect, but I have a little backlight leakage on the bottom of my screen. Means a yellow/white spot on the bottom of my screen.
Hi all, ive been reading some reviews on the td2 and they all mention that the screen performs very poor in direct sunlight.
How bad is the device on a sunny day outdoors?
Im just abit worried that if i get this device i wont be able to see anything on the screen when im outside
hi ,
to me , that isn't that bad in a sunny day outdoor.
just better than Diamond1.
Just recieved my TD2, and the display under direct sunlight is very poor (as almost all LCD with backlight - only a purely reflective screen look nice under sunlight). Not sure the TD2 is even semi-reflective, i have (slightly) better readability with an my older acer n311 or ipaq 2210, which are transflective iirc. TD2 maybe transmisive only....
That being said, it is readable, especially if you choose light background and black text. I am able to read ebooks and to see map main roads under direct sunlight, and it is the only thing I really ask of.
So it is usable, just usable. Do not expect any kind of image quality under sunlight: forget about movie or showing your last family photos to friends, but if like me, the only thing u ask is to be able to check your phone state and read, then it's ok...
First, thanks for all of the great support at this site. Kept my 8525 going for along time.
Now, perhaps a crazy question. Will an 8925 motherboard fit into an 8525 case, and drive the 8525 display. My 8525 recently died with a fried radio (dreaded No GSM, bad blocks, etc) and a coworker is going to give me his 8925 which has a broken screen. Sounds like an opportunity to play that I can't pass up!
Thanks
Bill
Sorry two different animals and I'm pretty sure the screw positions are totally different. If the 8925 case/keyboard are ok just replace the screen - which doesn't cost all that much - although the swap is a pain because I just replaced my entire housing a couple of weeks ago - front and middle which involved complete disassembly. Lots of screws and you have to follow the steps in the HTC manual to the letter if you want it to look like it was put together at the factory. The Kaiser's screen is much brighter and more responsive than the 8525 (HERMES). Own both and after using the TILT daily I love it. Faster and the screen can be read in sunlight unlike my Hermes. The backlight is way brighter and more uniform. The front keys work perfectly and it doesn't seem to freeze as much. Voice command actually works though the bluetooth headset which didn't in the Hermes no matter how many patches I've applied. Video and DIVX are perfectly acceptable. Battery life isn't the best but I use the internet during the day with 3g. The GPS internal receiver is a plus.
Thanks for the info and quick reply. Where did you get your housing? Or suggestions on a reputable plce to purchase the display?
screen edge bleed. How many of you have light bleed from around the display area when viewed at an angle? I've gone in to try 3 different phones from 3 diff deliveries and they ALL do it. Even the 3 display model do it. It's driving me nuts. Show of hands to say I'm not crazy and there is still hope to find a good one...
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No, they do that, trust me. It's the way they are assembled. I noticed it as soon as I got the phone, but it doesn't bother me because I know a lot of HTCs are like this. It isn't a defect in quality; rather, a result of the design. Unless your screen is leaking and letting in dust, don't worry about it. It might be annoying at first but you get past it. My Vivid does this and so have the other three HTCs I've had in the past.
Agree completely. I'm on my second Vivid, and both had/have light bleed, especially noticeable when looking at the phone flat towards the top of the phone. I'm a first-time HTC guy so I initially thought the same...that it was an issue with my phone. However, trips to see Vivids at multiple AT&T retail stores, and my second phone, made me comfortable that it was not just "my phone".
That it is endemic to every phone you see means HTC cant build a damn phone properly. Ive never had this issue with my Tytn, Tytn II, EVO, EVO 3D, Inspire. Meaning they can do it right, it is NOT an acceptable result for this phone. The rezound doesnt do it, nor does the sensation. Im going back and if this last shipment doesnt have it fixed its bye bye. God HTC used to be such high quality, now they are turning into metal bodied samsungs...
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That is is endemic to every phone you see mean HTC cant build a damn phone. Ive never had this issue with my Tytn, Tytn II, EVO, EVO 3D, Inspire. Meaning they can do it right, it is NOT an acceptable result for this phone. The rezound doesnt do it, nor does the sensation. Im going back and if this last shipment doesnt have it fixed its by by. God HTC used to be such high quality, now they are turning into metal bodied samsungs...
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God damn, calm down. That the light bleeds doesn't necessarily mean the design is wrong or of poor quality. That's just the design. It doesn't affect the way the phone works or how tough it is, it's JUST designed like that. Go ahead and exchange it, your new Vivid will have the same problem and you'll probably just be more bitter about it. Just because one or two phones from a company aren't designed as well as you'd want them to be, doesn't mean the whole company is junk. If you want, go exchange it for a Skyrocket and wince at the ****ty resolution, ghost lines running down the screen and cheap plastic. But none of that should matter because the screen won't bleed.
I have a car from 1991 with 221,000 miles on it. Not that much for that car in particular. I also have a car of the same make from 2000. And while there are definitely differences in build quality and material, the newer car has 322,000 miles on it. Both are running beautifully. Original engines and transmissions, starters, alternators, AC compressors, and basically everything else. But eh, the one from '00 has slightly harder dashboard material, so it's crap and that company can't build cars right.
But you know what, to each his own. *Just my opinion.
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God damn, calm down. That the light bleeds doesn't necessarily mean the design is wrong or of poor quality. That's just the design. It doesn't affect the way the phone works or how tough it is, it's JUST designed like that. Go ahead and exchange it, your new Vivid will have the same problem and you'll probably just be more bitter about it. Just because one or two phones from a company aren't designed as well as you'd want them to be, doesn't mean the whole company is junk. If you want, go exchange it for a Skyrocket and wince at the ****ty resolution, ghost lines running down the screen and cheap plastic. But none of that should matter because the screen won't bleed.
I have a car from 1991 with 221,000 miles on it. Not that much for that car in particular. I also have a car of the same make from 2000. And while there are definitely differences in build quality and material, the newer car has 322,000 miles on it. Both are running beautifully. Original engines and transmissions. But eh, the one from '00 has slightly harder dashboard material, so it's crap and that company can't build cars right.
But you know what, to each his own. *Just my opinion.
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Uhm light bleeding out the edges of the display is not a 'designed that way' type issue. Its a 'we have no quality control' issue. Next youll say that the screen coming unglued from the incredible/evo a while ago was a design aspect. Come on man. To those of us who actually design and build such products, its a manufacturing issue, not design. NO ONE designs them this ****ty.
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Uhm light bleeding out the edges of the display is not a 'designed that way' type issue. Its a 'we have no quality control' issue. Next youll say that the screen coming unglued from the incredible/evo a while ago was a design aspect. Come on man. To those of us who actually design and build such products, its a manufacturing issue, not design. NO ONE designs them this ****ty.
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I build engines and work on cars for a living. I do know where you're coming from. So it wasn't designed with as tight tolerances as it could have been or other phones are. But that does not necessarily mean it is of poor quality. They could (and yeah they really should) have built the phone a bit differently so as to avoid that light bleed. It isn't pretty especially with devices that do it more than others.
But you know, I still have my Incredible. It drowned in a river once, fell from the roof of my house (yeah...), has been dropped numerous times, and was submerged into a toilet by a 2-year old at one point. nasty **** man.. but I still have it. I use it as a "micro" tablet around my house. And I've never had a single problem with it.
Now that may just be my luck with my device but in all honesty, I have no problems believing it to be reliable. Others may not be so lucky. But in the case of the Vivid, I agree with you one hundred percent - the light bleed is something that definitely should not be present. But I don't really think it's that big of a problem in terms of actual quality. In manufacturing or in design, it isn't the best. But the device as a whole is solid and sturdy. With my first Vivid, after I bricked it (well not really bricked but gave up on it), I knew I was to exchange it. So I tried gauging the durability of the thing by twisting it, hit it on the table a couple of times and stuff. It was still fine.
Oh and I had a Captivate since new. The GPS never worked no matter what tweaks I did to it, the loudspeaker took a dump two months in, the volume rocker is so soft you don't feel a click, and it overheats while charging, even when it's off. Otherwise it was a great phone.. but eh. Too many bad experiences with Samsung in the past.
I don't know. I do respect your opinion man and don't underestimate your knowledge. Simply expressing my own.
I noticed this on my vivid a few days after I got it but didn't post about it because it doesn't really bother me. You can only see it if you tilt the phone forward and look into the housing and how many of us are going to do that other to look at the "defect." As long as it doesn't effect me using the phone then I'm good.
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I noticed this on my vivid a few days after I got it but didn't post about it because it doesn't really bother me. You can only see it if you tilt the phone forward and look into the housing and how many of us are going to do that other to look at the "defect." As long as it doesn't effect me using the phone then I'm good.
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I read in bed at night and in the morning, so the display is dimmed down, but the light bleed stays nearly the same brightness.... its very distracting.
Where Does All That Light Go?
If your phone bleeds light around the edges (of the screen?), where does it go? Will the vivid eventually run out of light when it all bleeds out?
Seriously, I took the case off my Vivid, took it into a dark room, and turned it on. No light coming around the edges of the screen. Of course, even if the screen was not seated properly and some light leaked out around the edge, I wouldn't see it because of the case. I guess I got a phone from a better batch.
None here...
I have absolutely no light bleed on my phone, and even if it was there its a phone not a pace maker , I've seen the Vivids with the bleed at the store and it still wasn't that bad. Someone is being overly dramatic.
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If your phone bleeds light around the edges (of the screen?), where does it go? Will the vivid eventually run out of light when it all bleeds out?
Seriously, I took the case off my Vivid, took it into a dark room, and turned it on. No light coming around the edges of the screen. Of course, even if the screen was not seated properly and some light leaked out around the edge, I wouldn't see it because of the case. I guess I got a phone from a better batch.
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Im not talking about light coming out AROUND the glass. Im talking about where the bezel meets the actual display area.
Is this light underneath the glass and visible through it? Is it leaking from where the plastic sides of the phone meet the glass, or what. If you could show pictures or actually clarify further, it'd be easier to understand. Now I don't think we are all imagining the same kind of light bleed you are seeing.
The gap around the glass and the gap where the bezel meets the display are the same thing..
In the case of what brucegil is referring to, no light is bleeding on my Vivid. Nor did it bleed on my last one or my past HTC devices. What I and I believe everyone else thinks you're referring to is the light you can see around the edges of the screen when the phone is viewed at an angle. That light is underneath the glass.
I just returned my black vivid for a white vivid today and my black one had a lot of light leak but this white one doesn't have any
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I have yet to see any light bleed, honestly. Maybe I got lucky?
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Now that I had enough time to play with the Sony Xperia T, I can give you my impressions about the new flagship phone of the Japanese manufacturer. There are already a lot of reviews and comparisons on the Internet so I will just tell my personal feelings about the phone. From the beginning I have to tell you that I am not a Samsung fan (although they do great hardware, the design is crap and the interface is ugly) nor an Apple fan (as some say it is built for people with average to low IQ).
Coming back to Xperia T, the size and weight are OK, even though some people are complaining is heavy, I don’t have that problem, it fits well in my pocket. The material on the back side is also good, having good adherence with your hands. Power and volume buttons are placed on the right side (well placed for right handed people, I am not sure if left handed people are confortable with this).
Camera is one of the best features the Xperia T is having, you can shoot great pictures in 13 megapixels. What really stands out is the speed of the camera: in lock mode you can press the camera button and in less than 1.5 seconds you have the first shot. Don’t worry, the camera button is not easy to press in the pocket.
USB port supports also HDMI output and I was able to connect a USB to HDMI adaptor from Samsung to connect the phone to the TV (your TV must support HDCP). You need to connect the charging adaptor in order for this to work (but I guess this is the same for the Sony TV dock) and will keep you the phone charged. The good thing is that I have a Bluetooth keyboard (with touchpad) that I can connect to the phone and while connected to the TV i can really use the phone as normal PC! This feature probably works with other phones as well. Video output is 1080p so the quality on phone screen and TV is great. If you want to connect the phone to the car USB (for charging the phone or playing the music) you need to set USB to Mass Storage mode (MSC) in Settings - Xperia - Connectivity - USB connection mode.
Whole review including pictures and screenshots can be found here:
http://mugur-ionescu.ro/sony-xperia-t-my-review.html
I have had my SXT since saturday now and I think it is a great phone but there is quite a few negative points it has.
So let me get to them:
*the camera still has that issue of being slow to focus sometimes and in video aswell which means you still miss shots which really jarred me when i had the sxs.
*the speaker for earpiece and loudspeaker should have been louder as outside you cant hear the phone ring and you can barely hear what people are saying on the phone
*you can barely see the notifcation light unless the phone is directly infront of you
*Battery life is average, doesnt last a day under moderate usage, lasts about 20 hours
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I have had my SXT since saturday now and I think it is a great phone but there is quite a few negative points it has.
So let me get to them:
*the camera still has that issue of being slow to focus sometimes and in video aswell which means you still miss shots which really jarred me when i had the sxs.
*the speaker for earpiece and loudspeaker should have been louder as outside you cant hear the phone ring and you can barely hear what people are saying on the phone
*you can barely see the notifcation light unless the phone is directly infront of you
*Battery life is average, doesnt last a day under moderate usage, lasts about 20 hours
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I actually like the fact that notification LED light is low with my Arc it was like a night lamp.
20 hours are enough for one day. During night I'm always charging the phone
For the earpiece and loudspeker I have to disagree, at least I didn't have such issues. for ringing I am using also vibrating mode
Earpiece and speaker seriously could be louder and the notification light could have been better, in these three aspects they have taken a backwards step from the xperia s imo.
As I use headsets for calls anyway phone calls isn't a issue.
The ARCs notification light was stupid as it was on the side of the phone which imo was pointless also.
Other than that I really enjoy my SXT.
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Earpiece and speaker seriously could be louder and the notification light could have been better, in these three aspects they have taken a backwards step from the xperia s imo.
As I use headsets for calls anyway phone calls isn't a issue.
The ARCs notification light was stupid as it was on the side of the phone which imo was pointless also.
Other than that I really enjoy my SXT.
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I agree. I also barely see that notification light. On XPERIA S when I put it on charger notification light was lighting like flash. I had to cover it over night because notification light was so bright. Maybe something between notification light on XPERIA T and XPERIA S would be good.
When the light is poor camera is slow on focus almoust every time but outdoor over day everything is OK.
Everything else is excellent and no complaints.
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I agree. I also barely see that notification light. On XPERIA S when I put it on charger notification light was lighting like flash. I had to cover it over night because notification light was so bright. Maybe something between notification light on XPERIA T and XPERIA S would be good.
When the light is poor camera is slow on focus almoust every time but outdoor over day everything is OK.
Everything else is excellent and no complaints.
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Every phone have some weak areas. I can live with those of Xperia T
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Thanks for the info on the camera focus, however I wish SONY would fix that because my HOX focuses straight away in low light and so did the S3. Also I didn't mind the brightness of the LED on the xperia s, the sgs3 or my hox. I like it like that means I can just look over at my phone and see if i have a text or something at night as my phone has to be on silent as not to wake my daughter. As it is I have to pick the phone up and check.
Aside from that yea I really love my SXT and am looking forward to the Yuga or whatever it is going to be called.
hi. Im currently using HTC One V and planning to buy HTC One S, but unfortunately HTC One S in my region is theSnapdragon S3 version. so I'm thinking to buy this phone instead. one thing that bothering me is that it doesn't have a Gorilla Glass display (plastic body is OK). so my question is the Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass on it's screen is as durable as Gorilla Glass screen? I like the phone in general. the other things that I like about this phone are community suport, official CM support etc.
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hi. Im currently using HTC One V and planning to buy HTC One S, but unfortunately HTC One S in my region is theSnapdragon S3 version. so I'm thinking to buy this phone instead. one thing that bothering me is that it doesn't have a Gorilla Glass display (plastic body is OK). so my question is the Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass on it's screen as durable as Gorilla Glass screen? I like the phone in general. the other things that I like about this phone are community suport, official CM support etc.
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It sort of is. The screenprotector (shatter-proof sheet) that is on there by default scratches easier than Gorilla Glass, but the glass itself is really quite durable!
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It sort of is. The screenprotector (shatter-proof sheet) that is on there by default scratches easier than Gorilla Glass, but the glass itself is really quite durable!
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thanks for the reply. do you think the phone still requires an additional screen protector? and what about a case/soft jacket etc, since the back cover is plastic, do you think it needs a case? (I'm afraid to squeeze it in my jean's pocket), but I can put this on my jacket though to prevent that. I'm going to buy it tomorrow (3 youtube videos make me love this phone):good:.
The Xperia T is the first phone where I've ever used the stock keyboard it comes with... I think its brilliant and so easy to type on.
There's lots of things I love about the phone, I do wish the notification LED was bigger however but meh... some phones don't even have one!
Thanks for the mini review of the Xperia T. I'm itching to purchase this baby, but will wait a few more days. The Xpera T will be an upgrade in terms of smartphone OS transition. Coming from a Nokia N8 handset, I don't feel the XT will be a huge upgrade seeing how the N8 is still the best camera phone as of this day and the 13MP on the XT, as stated by many reviews, just isn't that great (camera quality and dedicated camera button are huge decision makers for me).
Heck, every friend who played with my N8 thought it was running Android OS. :victory:
In terms of speed, I probably won't notice the lag even if lag was present if I were to compare it to the N8.
LED notification; the N8 notification light is horrible. I can definitely live with the "poor" notification light on the XT if it's significantly more noticeable than the N8.
Anyways, nice review.
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Thanks for the mini review of the Xperia T. I'm itching to purchase this baby, but will wait a few more days. The Xpera T will be an upgrade in terms of smartphone OS transition. Coming from a Nokia N8 handset, I don't feel the XT will be a huge upgrade seeing how the N8 is still the best camera phone as of this day and the 13MP on the XT, as stated by many reviews, just isn't that great (camera quality and dedicated camera button are huge decision makers for me).
Heck, every friend who played with my N8 thought it was running Android OS. :victory:
In terms of speed, I probably won't notice the lag even if lag was present if I were to compare it to the N8.
LED notification; the N8 notification light is horrible. I can definitely live with the "poor" notification light on the XT if it's significantly more noticeable than the N8.
Anyways, nice review.
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Hi. Wellcome aboard N8 refugee. Been using it for about 7 hours now. You will not notice any lag whatsoever. The Krait processor is awesome. I bought this phone just because it has Snapdragon S4 processor, I don't use camera that much. The notification light issue is not a big deal for me.
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JalmiNyondong1933 said:
thanks for the reply. do you think the phone still requires an additional screen protector? and what about a case/soft jacket etc, since the back cover is plastic, do you think it needs a case? (I'm afraid to squeeze it in my jean's pocket), but I can put this on my jacket though to prevent that. I'm going to buy it tomorrow (3 youtube videos make me love this phone):good:.
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My Xperia T still hasn't arrived (FedEx ) but my Xperia S has the same display type and I'd never cover it with yet another screen protector.
Just use it as it comes. The default screen protector will last you quite some time. I've had my Xperia S since the day of release, 8 months now and my display is still near-perfect. When you've got scratches on the display you just remove the "shatter-proof sheet" and replace it with your own screen protector and your display is as good as new!
Again, no experience with the T, but on my Xperia S the (probably significantly less rough) back got some glossy spots from the friction in my pockets. But the material is completely different so I can't say how the T will fare here...
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My Xperia T still hasn't arrived (FedEx ) but my Xperia S has the same display type and I'd never cover it with yet another screen protector.
Just use it as it comes. The default screen protector will last you quite some time. I've had my Xperia S since the day of release, 8 months now and my display is still near-perfect. When you've got scratches on the display you just remove the "shatter-proof sheet" and replace it with your own screen protector and your display is as good as new!
Again, no experience with the T, but on my Xperia S the (probably significantly less rough) back got some glossy spots from the friction in my pockets. But the material is completely different so I can't say how the T will fare here...
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Guys,
My wife is still using the X10 with the original screen protector. It is very good. I did the mistake to remove it from my old X10 and no other screen protector was good enough. But the screen was excellent even without screen protector. My advice is to keep it there, I have it on the Arc since 1.5 years and it's still OK.
Mugur
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