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OK i A D O R E this phone so far! Everything that annoyed me about the Universal, doesn't apply to this phone!
1 thing i have noticed... when i move the stylus across the screen, it feels 'scratchy' and im getting paranoid that im going to start scratch teh screen lol, has anyone else noticed this?!
Got mine today -- the first thing I did was to put on a WriteShield screen protector on it. I had one left over from my Wizard; the Kaiser screen is almost exactly the same size as the Wizard's.
Note that there should be a screen protector in the box -- use it if you're worried about scratching the screen.
My wizard did that but never scratched. The touch screen is made to withstand your stylus and other tiny abuse. Never the less, slap on a screen protector for sure.
yes, i did feel that the kaiser screen has more friction when i write especially in chinese on it with the stylus. then i put a screen protector on it and now its all smooth. the screen protector that came in the box was trash, it was not smooth and the transparent rate wasnt that high.
Damn, I am so horny about kaiser, I can hardly wait for it. However since I live in Croatia, it's probably take another month or so for T-Com to start selling them here.
Currently I own MDA Vario, and what I mostly hate about it, is the fact that stylus is sliding out of phone shell. Mine started falling out in less than two months after I bought my Vario.
Do you think that they have the same design flaw in kaiser? Why didn't they at least make the stylus hole on top of device (like HP did for IPaq PDA-s)?
mdm said:
Damn, I am so horny about kaiser, I can hardly wait for it. However since I live in Croatia, it's probably take another month or so for T-Com to start selling them here.
Currently I own MDA Vario, and what I mostly hate about it, is the fact that stylus is sliding out of phone shell. Mine started falling out in less than two months after I bought my Vario.
Do you think that they have the same design flaw in kaiser? Why didn't they at least make the stylus hole on top of device (like HP did for IPaq PDA-s)?
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People had that problem with the Universal (although i never did )
The stylus on the Kaiser seems VERY secure, i'm sure you'll have absolutely no issues with it coming out.
Pooper said:
Everything that annoyed me about the Universal, doesn't apply to this phone!
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Can you please be more specific? I just need one more little push to retire my Uni...
Pooper said:
1 thing i have noticed... when i move the stylus across the screen, it feels 'scratchy' and im getting paranoid that im going to start scratch teh screen lol, has anyone else noticed this?!
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Both my Hermes and Kaiser started of a little "gritty" at the start. I think there is a a fine coating that wears off after a while. Certainly my Hermes did and the Kaiser after a couple of days use is beginning to smooth out. Just something that is present when it's so new.
Worth noting that I've been pushing loads of apps onto the Kaiser, including memory hungry ones and NO Lock ups at all so far and it's fast compared to the TyTn. To those that said why upgrade for the sake of a couple of new things (GPS mainly), I can only say that so far it's behaved perfectly.
One minor concern - despite the overall speed benefit, my IE scrolling seems a bit gltchy anyone else noticed this?
Mike
mikechannon said:
Both my Hermes and Kaiser started of a little "gritty" at the start. I think there is a a fine coating that wears off after a while. Certainly my Hermes did and the Kaiser after a couple of days use is beginning to smooth out. Just something that is present when it's so new.
Worth noting that I've been pushing loads of apps onto the Kaiser, including memory hungry ones and NO Lock ups at all so far and it's fast compared to the TyTn. To those that said why upgrade for the sake of a couple of new things (GPS mainly), I can only say that so far it's behaved perfectly.
One minor concern - despite the overall speed benefit, my IE scrolling seems a bit gltchy anyone else noticed this?
Mike
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i agree..its glitchy and slower then the first ty tn
I have searched for this but only seem to be able to find one reference to it but no replies so maybe Im the only one......
I have had my Kaiser for a bout a month - not used extensively yet but noticed only a few days ago that the D-Pad is loose in its seating - it appears to be excessively so and "wiggles" quite a lot.
either this is just me...or being new to HTC, its normal. Can anyone confirm/deny
thanks
Mine is loose too...
Mine too, and was loose from day one...
noticed mine yesterday too... could see the led on it
Might open it over the weekend to see if its a case of tightning or adding something to the keys to mak e it tighter
I also thought i was the only one, been like that since unboxing, it's looseness is kind of annoying
Noticed mine after about a week, and also two more which were literally just out of the box.
It's annoying, but I'm prepared to live with it. Form wise it's one of the better build qualities and I'm still generally over the moon with it. Just wish it ran like an iphone! bought someone an ipod touch the other day and man it's so damn pretty!! I just kept telling myself that my phone does all the iphone does and more, UI wise it's just a little more plain-jane hehe.
Ant
the tytn ii is way better than iphone; better everything - no-one should need to tell you that
iphone is a girly phone. all it does is look pretty
apart from d-pad, im very chuffed with mine. also now running pocketmusic 5 on it and that makes it as good a music player.
Mine is loose too, but i just kind of got used to it.
it does seem like some of the shiny finish is starting to chip off though. that annoys me a bit more.
I had to send my tytn II off for repair due to another issue. Calls/texts would not work while in 3g areas. Anyways I got the phone back and noticed this aswell about the d-pad, but I wasnt sure if it was like that before I send it off. But I really notice it now and it annoys me, all in all tho apart from that its a fantasic phone. Glad I not the only one with this problem.
i notied mine is lose to this week ...
Ok, this loose d-pad issue was raised before and it is not a problem. All TyTn IIs have about 1mm of play. The d-pad has a "lip" which is seated under the front bezel. It will not fall out and it is a standard part of the design - just ignore it it does not cause problems.
Mike
Mandiven said:
I had to send my tytn II off for repair due to another issue. Calls/texts would not work while in 3g areas. Anyways I got the phone back and noticed this aswell about the d-pad, but I wasnt sure if it was like that before I send it off. But I really notice it now and it annoys me, all in all tho apart from that its a fantasic phone. Glad I not the only one with this problem.
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The "looseness" is part of the design. The D-pad is subjected to finger pressure all the time it is used, it is expected to have some free-play movement.
My d-pad has also this kind of "looseness"
But this is very strange because this looseness is only on the left side of the d-pad. It seems to me that something has been broken!
Melkor
I've got the same problem.
I solved it with a small piece of screenprotector which I placed on top of the d-pad beneath the edge.
Noticed that the first thing I took it out of the box. Not a big deal to me.
Melkor said:
My d-pad has also this kind of "looseness"
But this is very strange because this looseness is only on the left side of the d-pad. It seems to me that something has been broken!
Melkor
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No it's not broken. What is unusual is that yours only slides about on one side - most slide around all round (slightly more on top / bottom edges. I think if you tried a little more force it would slide all round. It really is not a fault and not a problem. (the pad merely sits on top of the actual switches and is not connected to them - so the movement is of no consequence)
Mike
Yeah, that's normal, mine too... This is the new HTC quality ...
Really, this device sucks !!!!!!!!!!!
- Not good for gaming
- Not good for playing videos
- Bad quality D-pad
- Keyboard not very good (worse than the original TYTN one) from my point of view
And all of that for around 700 € ... !!!!
Anyone who want to buy a new pocket pc, please think twice before choosing the Kai-**** !
The more I use it, the more I hate it ... I have it for about two weeks now and I still prefere to use my HTC prophet !
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The "looseness" is part of the design. The D-pad is subjected to finger pressure all the time it is used, it is expected to have some free-play movement.
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Can you please explain where is the interest of this looseness ? I had many pocketpc before this one (and 2 x HTC's), and it is the first time I meet this looseness. And from my point of view, yes , it is annoying !
I hate the feeling I have when pressing the pad or the buttons, when you should have a high quality machine (700 € ...) it is disapointing to feel the buttons moving under your fingers.
When I recieved my first Tilt, the D-Pad was very loose. Also, the UP button had to be mashed a little hard for it to work. It would do the 'click', but wouldn't engage unless you pressed a little harder. This was happening from the minute I took it out of the box. It was very annoying so I returned it for a new one. The new phone D-Pad is not loose at all and works perfectly. I've had this second Tilt now since about 10 days after release, so it's received quite a bit of use. Not sure what's up, but there was something wrong with the first Tilt I received.
Hi guys. So a couple months back my AT&T Tilt screen cracked. Here's the story.....
One day I was at school and I had my Tilt in my pocket. When I came home I turned it on and the screen was cracked! (Refer to pictures at the bottom of this post).
It appears to have a couple of hair line cracks and a couple other weird ones. The phone still works normally. I've actually inserted my SIM card, turned the phone on, and made a call with it when the screen was cracked! Also if I turn it on the usual things happen. If I slide out the keyboard, it makes the noise that the keyboards open and vice versa. It's just the screen (or so I think). What should I do? I've heard about buying a new screen on eBay for around 50 - 60 dollars, or sending it in to a place like this.
http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Tilt_8925_LCD_Screen_Repair_p/222-4037.htm
I just want to fix it and then sell it on eBay. I only used the phone for about 1 week and now it's just been sitting around for 2 months. What should I do?
P.S. Don't forget to look at the pictures below.
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Just depends on how good you are with practical tasks. The Kaiser is not an overly difficult dismantle, but these things are fiddly sometimes. If you have never done this sort of thing before and your not a practical sort of person, then send/take it for repair.
If you are pretty practical with small delicate equipment and have looked at the Service Manual and dismantling guides then replace the LCD.
(If you have not seen the Sevice Manual and guides then - www.mikechannon.net)
Mike
Fix It!!!!!!!!!!!
Its still a usable phone. Find a screen, send it to me and I'll fix it for ya. If you attempt it, be careful as some clips are a pain in the ass to pry off. couls ruin it even more. How much you selling it with the screen cracked like that?
wow thats one hecka cracked screen..what do you carry in your pocket along with the phone, a glock? maybe a nine..grenades???
Actually I carried nothing in my pocket. I must've sat on it or something!
Hey FLiPinoy9oNe6, how much do you charge to repair the Tilt screens?
Hey FLiPinoy9oNe6, how much do you charge to repair an AT&T Tilt screen?
it was a joke lol cause you just said you had it in your pocket and ive read posts where people "mysteriousky" had there screens crack which is impossible unless high pressure has happened which is usually sitting.stepping.dropping.throwing...lol
I cracked my att tilt in the exact same spot and the same cracks formed... weird.
Its an extreamly easy fix, only takes 30mins, order the screen online got mine for like 40 bucks, and get the screw drivers needed. Its simple and kinda hard to mess up just follow the disassembly instructions or video which are all free online.
Hi,
just wanna ask if the lousy build quality is normal for the Diamond. I've yet to see one that is problem free - and I had half a dozen in hands.
Mostly the dpad is not level and one edge lifts up.
Then often the power button is not level.
Then I've seen that the stylus does not get sucked in completely as it should be by the magnet.
And finally I've seen that the battery cover does not close completely (leveling at the top end) and come off very easily?
Given the fact that I only paid 290 Euros for my brand new Diamond and the features it packs I can endure a lot.
But given the fact that I know HTC from devices like the Qtek S110 I'm really dissapointed.
The build quality of HTC seemed to have gone downhill by a lot - Diamond problems like the one noted, Touch HD color peel off, Xperia X1 cracks and color peel.
What the heck are those chinese doeing? Do they think because they are the only ones building WM phones these days customers are willing to put up with such crap???
Mmmm...
I must be the odd-one out then because mine is really smart... no such issues?! Battery cover good, stylus fits, buttons level. Mine is HTC branded, may be its the network providers' manufacturing plants that are less than top quality?
I know for a fact that all brands are not built in the same plant. Having said that, the quality should be equal where ever they're built
i have the MDA version and the build quality on it is good. Nothing sticking out of uneven.
I've only tested HTC's own devices. And I've yet to see one that is free of flaws. Even the new D2 has problems like dust under the screen etc.
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I've only tested HTC's own devices. And I've yet to see one that is free of flaws. Even the new D2 has problems like dust under the screen etc.
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All I can say then Mr Cowboy, is that you've been damn unlucky. I've been using HTC devices since 2001, and I've had one device in all that time which I could fit in your 'duff' catergory?!
Actually, HTC are Taiwanese.
Apart from the obvious xenophobia, I have also noticed that one edge of the D-pad is raised, allowing the light to leak through. I'm a bit disappointed - the Diamond is my first HTC device, and one of the reasons I bought it was hearing how good the build quality generally was on HTC phones.
Well some say Taiwan is still China. Besides that I've used HTC devices for quite a few device generations. The best one prolly was my magician - rock solid and still runs strong with no signs of any wear.
The Diamond on the other hand simply does not feel solid and clearly shows what I would describe as cost reduction effects. If you treat the Diamond as a ... device you prolly don't care. And I don't do either very much because I got mine recently very cheap (because the D2 was sitting right besides the D1 in the store the D1 was sold for less then 300 Euros).
You get a mighty good load of features for less then 300 (my old Eten X500 had cost me double that) so I don't wanna complain too much. But I feel that I'd be prepared to pay another 100 for solid build quality (metal casing etc).
I've taken a very close look at other HTCs on display in various stores around town and all of them had at least minor flaws. The black X1s already showed color peel off like the Touch HD and even the display unit of the D2 had visible dust under the screen - and I don't think it was on display for very long.
That said I think the Diamond will be my last HTC. The features are great but I simply like a bit more solidity. I exchange my own Diamond twice to end up with one that I can half way live with - first one had a stylus problem (not sucked in properly) and a power button problem (wouldn't turn own sometimes - maybe because the power button was not level and did not press properly), the second one had a royally screwed dpad (bent inwards on the right side and lifting up on the left side) and non-fitting battery cover and the third only has a bit of the pad lifting up on the right side (not as much as the second).
I looked through 6 stores in town and my percentage of a 100% perfect HTC was - 0%, none, nada.
Maybe german stores only get the crap productions because germans usually don't complain much, who knows. ;-)
I even have a X1 lying around here (ordered because I was thinking about returning my Diamond) but I'll return the X1 instead. The X1 is also HTC meaning it's disaster (cracks and/or peeling) in the making and I'm not prepared to pay a 170 Euros on top of my Diamond for that.
On the other hand build quality in general has gone downhill as it seems. Even coworkers of mine complain about the shoddy build of there iPhone-Toys. And they paid much much more than I did for my Diamond. Maybe the X2 will be what I'm looking for given the fact it's made by Foxconn/Asus.
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I know for a fact that all brands are not built in the same plant. Having said that, the quality should be equal where ever they're built
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Prove it. Carrier brand snobbery is not going to get us anywhere.
I don't believe that either. For one HTC might be THE defacto PDA-monopolist but generall they are a rather small company. I don't think they have a lot of plants all over Taiwan.
And why should carrier devices should be build with higher 'tolorances'? Some carrier devices can be built a bit more solid - like the XDA Diamond given the different back cover - when they are changed from the original.
I love my tilt. It needs work, I can do. But should I just get a new-like tmob G1 (htc dream?) and unlock it for ATT and styart hacking on that? How cool is the platform? Is it as much fun to have one of those and play on XDA?
You can get an entire screen for your kaiser for around $35 check out fonlogix. The dream is a good phone too, you can check them out on the forum.
I've gone through a screen replacement on my Kaiser--it works perfectly fine, although it was a pain in the you know what to take apart and put back together. Unfortunately, I guess I wasn't careful enough; the upper/lower halves of the phone don't line up perfectly, although its not a good deal. If you value your time (it will take 1 to 2 hours) and you don't want to screw up, just get a new phone. But if you enjoy DIY and want to save some $$ like I did, then go for it
By the way my brother has a G1 that I use a lot, it is a fantastic phone, the larger capacitive screen is a huge upgrade and there are tons of *excellent* ROMs.
Tilt screen replacemnt
I just put a screen in my wife's 8925 a couple minutes ago.
Took about 45 minutes
Remove top bezel, unplug screen, remove. Clean top housing where new screen/digitizer will be, place new in, attach connector and replace housing.
The right hand side, in the middle, is the toughest part to get back together. It may have been easier to put the top bezel back on if the whole phone was apart, but it seemed better to do as I did and not take lots apart.
45 minutes and less than $30 from ebay. Only problem is the screen is not aligned perfectly. most of the screen is proper, but the scroll bars that adjust the time in a new appointment have to be touched more to the right of the button instead of being able to use the whole button. I suppose I got a cheesy screen that the digitizer is not as good as the original one. Still she is happy, and that makes me happy!
@ Hangard
damn your good...guess I need more practice lol
youy folks already fixed your phones? wher'd you get yer reaplacements..
@hangard @ chambord
Where did you get yer digitizer+touchscreen? sounds like ebay. gotta link? how important r toolz?
So Im not clear Ive got spider cracks and 'ppols' of black and not hires display just B&W. Does that mean I need to get a digitizer or a DTGZER and touchscreen from ebay... seems like im finding a lot of digitizers for $10?