Hey guys, I just got my tilt. I'm wondering what software you guys recomend. I want to stay away from using gprs. I have SPB mobile 3, live update, and No data so far. What do you recommend for my GPS without having to pay? Recomend what ever you want, Im very interested. Tell me those softwares, you couldn't live without
Thanks
Welcome to the Kaiser Forum. Before you do anything else here, READ THE KAISER WIKI! It has many answers to common questions, good software, etc., and it REALLY helps to read it your first time here. Here, I would highly recommend reading this, this and this now. They all contain useful, relevant information that should answer most (if not all) questions you have. All the best,
Dave
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Thanks, I read all the links and there are some good things in there. I really want to get a good gps 3rd party. Is there no way I can just pay to download the .cab I already have numerous memory cards and dont want to have to pay the extra.
Google offers a good FREE gps program that uses your GPS built into your phone. However, it does require some type of data connection, whether it be through Wifi or GPRS.
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/maps.html
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Google offers a good FREE gps program that uses your GPS built into your phone. However, it does require some type of data connection, whether it be through Wifi or GPRS.
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/maps.html
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yeah that was on the list.
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i've just ordered an at&t tilt. i've searched on this forum for gps and tom tom and didnt get anything and so is this post.
will i be able to use the tilt as a gps unit without signing up for the data plan from at&t?
does kaiser have gps hardware built it or is it an addon?
if it does have a gps hardware is built in, what software can i use to use the phone as a gps unit. if there is a thread or post where i can read more, please let me know.
TIA
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i've just ordered an at&t tilt. i've searched on this forum for gps and tom tom and didnt get anything and so is this post.
will i be able to use the tilt as a gps unit without signing up for the data plan from at&t?
does kaiser have gps hardware built it or is it an addon?
if it does have a gps hardware is built in, what software can i use to use the phone as a gps unit. if there is a thread or post where i can read more, please let me know.
TIA
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I have no clue how you searched but there are gazillions of threads out there for GPS. Please search again. Just to be nice to you: yes, Tilt/Kaiser does have a built-in hardware for GPS and all you need to do is buy a standalone software such as Tomtom, iGo, etc. With standalone, you don't need to pay for the internet unless you want traffic information.
The kaiser has built in GPS Hardware. Virtually any GPS Software will work with the kaiser. To try it out, GoogleMaps has a built in GPS tool but it needs to download the maps as it goes. TomTom or similar have the maps stored locally which has a lower running cost but costs quite alot initially.
yes it has a built in gps... and you can use Garmin Mobile XT and there a lot of programs..
It works well with iGuidance with the onboard GPS and I don't have a data plan...
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i've just ordered an at&t tilt. i've searched on this forum for gps and tom tom and didnt get anything and so is this post.
will i be able to use the tilt as a gps unit without signing up for the data plan from at&t?
does kaiser have gps hardware built it or is it an addon?
if it does have a gps hardware is built in, what software can i use to use the phone as a gps unit. if there is a thread or post where i can read more, please let me know.
TIA
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I see were this is going, i have advice for you. Just go to walmart and buy a gps navagation system, save yourself and all of us some time since you cant understand the concept of "google search" and "read the wiki"
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I have no clue how you searched but there are gazillions of threads out there for GPS. Please search again. Just to be nice to you: yes, Tilt/Kaiser does have a built-in hardware for GPS and all you need to do is buy a standalone software such as Tomtom, iGo, etc. With standalone, you don't need to pay for the internet unless you want traffic information.
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thanks for the info and for being nice. really appreciate all ur help.
word of advice for the day:
If the title of your post includes the words "Newbie Question" odds are there is a thread lurking around this forum somewhere for your question.
I am looking for some program for my Tilt that will have voice turn by turn directions, or just turn by turn directions. I have live and Google maps and all that basic stuff but is there anything more advanced like Tom tom or Garmin are, or does anyone have those 2 programs?
Thanks I am new to the forum, but I had a friend completely re due my new tilt the other day, and I am interested to do some work to it myself. Great site GUYS!!!!
FML5003 said:
I am looking for some program for my Tilt that will have voice turn by turn directions, or just turn by turn directions. I have live and Google maps and all that basic stuff but is there anything more advanced like Tom tom or Garmin are, or does anyone have those 2 programs?
Thanks I am new to the forum, but I had a friend completely re due my new tilt the other day, and I am interested to do some work to it myself. Great site GUYS!!!!
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Welcome, Be sure to get very familiar with the search function. Just about everything has already been covered in this great forum.
This is almost as identical as this thread here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390773
tomtom does work on tilt but u have to buy it ... there r some cooked roms that have it but require you to supply your own maps.
since u are a new user i would highly recommend that u read the kaiser wiki and the stickies in the kaiser forums. they will help u greatly and give u alot of insight related to ur device.
welcome abroad.
So there is no free program out there that has turn by turn?
not that i have come across.. but than again i really never looked for one. try searching google for one or search through the forums.
peace,
sire
Thanks Guys
You would think this is something that everyone would want on such a smart phone????
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Thanks Guys
You would think this is something that everyone would want on such a smart phone????
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Lots of us want it - lots of us have it. We did a search and found it. You will be surprised at how many options there are up here.
Check it out.
Bill
Nav4all
www.nav4all.com
Free and has turn-by-turn directions plus a lot of other stuff.
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Nav4all
www.nav4all.com
Free and has turn-by-turn directions plus a lot of other stuff.
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11. In areas where my mobile phone does not work....?
No problem; the system will keep guiding you, as long as you started before you entered the telephone vacuum. You only need a telephone connection of a few seconds before the start of the vacuum.....
That kinda kills it for me, I am often in areas with no cell service.
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11. In areas where my mobile phone does not work....?
No problem; the system will keep guiding you, as long as you started before you entered the telephone vacuum. You only need a telephone connection of a few seconds before the start of the vacuum.....
That kinda kills it for me, I am often in areas with no cell service.
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I see from their site you have to connect to their service to Calculate your route. And needs to recalculate if you change. TomTom for PDA does this all automatically on the phone. The one benefit, apparently, over TomTom Nav4All has is, more maps. Even though you can buy North America, Europe, etc. maps for TomTom
I read a lot of posts... regarding Microsoft bad choices.
So they removed Modem Link option and there is no way other than Internet Sharing?
Any update?
not dure. i wanted to use my phone to steal next doors wifi connection
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not dure. i wanted to use my phone to steal next doors wifi connection
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sorry I didn't understand what you mean
my neighbours have wi fi and i wanted to steal there signakl for net usage
chef shogunmark on his rom death 4 is the only oe who has been able to get wmodem program to work.
Wonder how long this post will last. It has that circuit city smell.
Closing Soon!
It always winds me up when people just reply to threads with SEARCH, however in this case I have to agree with them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473875&highlight=modem
There are MANY threads about using the Kaiser as a Modem, and it does work. However you need to install ModemLink or cook it into the ROM on your Kaiser and get the HTC Modem drivers installed on your PC.
But I have to say it again, just use the SEARCH function..........
Andy
well it's not just searching it's also that the exact same topic has a new thread going on. So it's a redundant redundant thread.
Im sure this will be easy for you guys. I have a 8125 now with live search on it. My question is if I upgrade to the tilt, is there a way I can use the gps without being charged? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance
a gps don't use the phone it get signals from satellites
so it don't cost anything
but of cause if you use gmaps for navigation it will cost
but if you use tomtom or garmin program and maps you
don't even need a sim card in the phone
The Wizard is cool, but the Tilt...
Hi there,
I use Google Maps...if you pay your provider for internet access (like PDA Connect or MediaNet Unlimited...search on those if you don't know the truth!) then it won't cost you anything more.
There is a clause in the Google Maps program that says not to use it while moving, and I'm still unclear myself as to the exact reasons why, so at least be aware when you are doing something you're 'not supposed to' do...but it works just fine, is EASY to use, has broad general search capabilities, incorporates their Satellite View and practically real-time Traffic info.
If you do NOT pay for internet access (although I strongly suggest taking advantage of the 3G on the Tilt) you can use a 3rd party app like TomTom, Garmin and many others.
I also have DeLorme's Street Atlas 2007, but it does not support the GPS built into the Tilt, I have an external BT GPS for that.
The latest version of Street Atlas has...I believe...addressed that issue and should work fine.
And there are a TON of other GPS programs out there that have many subtle differences to suit whatever your needs are...search the Kaiser > Software Forum and you'll find people who love and hate almost every one of them available. Installing most of them on the SD is more efficient, but some are small enough to put in without one.
The Tilt also has Quick GPS that, when updated regularly, speeds up the satellite acquisition time for the GPS effectively...I usually get a lock within 10-15 seconds, but it does take longer on occasion. Quick GPS downloads info from the Net, so you would need access to utilize that function.
I too had a Wizard before the Tilt...and I liked it alot...but the 3G, the GPS, the 3MP Camera...and THIS FORUM!...have taken me to a point where I LOVE my Tilt, and...although I can 'upgrade' now to a Fuze...I don't think I can get a better phone without going outside my Provider Dealer (AT&T thru Hawk Electronics).
Search the Kaiser Forum for GPS, look specifically in the Software section and I think you'll find more than enough info to help you make your decision.
If you do make the switch, I'd keep the Wizard and start playing with Cooked ROMs and Software so you can get acquainted with the process. What you can do with the Tilt on this Forum is only limited by the time these guys have to tweak.
For what it may or may not be worth, my opinion is...get the Tilt!
Thanks guys, I plan on getting it and I have spb 3 so ill throw it on there right away
Ok...in order for me to keep Android on my Touch and not go back to Windows Mobile, there MUST be an offline GPS solution for Android. By that I mean GPS software that reads maps from the SD card and does not need a data connection on the phone at all; like TomTom does on Windows Mobile - it has all the POIs stored on the SD card (including their phone number) so I can get directions, look up numbers, and directly call businesses from the GPS app without ever needing any internet connectivity. I have a 16GB card, so storing maps of the whole USA won't be a problem....did it just fine in WinMo using TomTom...
So, does anyone know of a GPS application that can do this for Android? Having to connect to the internet for GPS maps (like Google maps) is just unacceptable, especially since GPS has been free through satellites for decades now. Bottom line - I just want GPS to work like it did on Windows Mobile...no data plan needed, and maps stored locally on the SD card. Easy and fast.
If this is not possible then it is very apparent that TomTom on WinMo is far superior to any Android GPS solution, and I will be forced to switch back.
MapDroyd......
http://www.mapdroyd.com/
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MapDroyd......
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it says you have to download the maps through another program called "ContentDroyd"...this defeats the whole purpose of making this work for phones without a data connection.
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it says you have to download the maps through another program called "ContentDroyd"...this defeats the whole purpose of making this work for phones without a data connection.
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the newest version of contentdroyd will allow you to download them from a computer instead of through the phone. then you put the maps on sd.
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the newest version of contentdroyd will allow you to download them from a computer instead of through the phone. then you put the maps on sd.
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the latest version of ContentDroyd is still just an APK file, so how do you download them on your computer? IS there a public site that has the map files?
Also I read that any vector map format can be used in their compressed map format...does this mean I can use the nicer and more complete TomTom or Garmin map files somehow?
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the latest version of ContentDroyd is still just an APK file, so how do you download them on your computer? IS there a public site that has the map files?
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Sometimes you can find public sites, yes. I'm happy to post it if that's within the rules, I'll check. Then you use adb to install it.
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Sometimes you can find public sites, yes. I'm happy to post it if that's within the rules, I'll check. Then you use adb to install it.
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I can transfer files directly to my SD card over my USB cable, that is not the problem...I just need a site that has the map file. I can download and transfer them myself manually. Also - why would it be against the rules since the maps are freeware?
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Their site just has a list...no download links.
http://www.mapdroyd.com/map-android-more
This is so dumb, why are they trying to hide how to download it, even on their site, when they fully allow downloads thru your phone - makes no sense
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I can transfer files directly to my SD card over my USB cable, that is not the problem...I just need a site that has the map file. I can download and transfer them myself manually. Also - why would it be against the rules since the maps are freeware?
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Their site just has a list...no download links.
http://www.mapdroyd.com/map-android-more
This is so dumb, why are they trying to hide how to download it, even on their site, when they fully allow downloads thru your phone - makes no sense
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Sorry, I didn't mean the maps - I meant the newest mapdroyd and contentdroyd apks so you don't have to download them. You could then install those through adb.
Does the GPS even work well enough with warm donut? I have gotten it to work a few times, but most of the time it struggles to find a signal...
GPS works fine in mine. finally got GPS to work in RLS3 of myn's Warm Donut, but only after I installed GPStest and rebooted. Now I get locks in 30 seconds on a cold start
Anyway, I cannot find the SMD files for the UnitedStates, and if this thing doesn't even do turn by turn directions, then why was it made? Just so you can see a dot on a map? Whooptie do. Android is looking less and less attractive the longer I use it.
Ok I take it back, I just updated my radio to 3.42.5 and looks like GPS is working better than ever! Not sure about not having a dataplan as when I had Windows, it always made an internet connection at first?
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Ok I take it back, I just updated my radio to 3.42.5 and looks like GPS is working better than ever! Not sure about not having a dataplan as when I had Windows, it always made an internet connection at first?
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No, that is my point...you never needed a data plan/internet connection to use GPS. GPS has always been free up until a few years ago when cell companies started tying data into it through what is called A-GPS (assisted GPS), and also so they could provide local 411 listings, etc. The GPS chip inside our phones works fine by itself to get directions, and do routing and turn by turn, etc (which is software based). No internet connection is needed to use GPS, and it shouldn't ever be.
Ok, my rant about phone companies muddying up true GPS is over...I fear that Android will never be as powerful a Windows Mobile was with GPS. People who think Google Maps and programs like Copilot are great GPS apps, have no clue what they are missing.
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No, that is my point...you never needed a data plan/internet connection to use GPS. GPS has always been free up until a few years ago when cell companies started tying data into it through what is called A-GPS (assisted GPS), and also so they could provide local 411 listings, etc. The GPS chip inside our phones works fine by itself to get directions, and do routing and turn by turn, etc (which is software based). No internet connection is needed to use GPS, and it shouldn't ever be.
Ok, my rant about phone companies muddying up true GPS is over...I fear that Android will never be as powerful a Windows Mobile was with GPS. People who think Google Maps and programs like Copilot are great GPS apps, have no clue what they are missing.
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my experience tom tom and destinator both worked much better with agps. i used both
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Anyway, I cannot find the SMD files for the UnitedStates, and if this thing doesn't even do turn by turn directions, then why was it made? Just so you can see a dot on a map? Whooptie do. Android is looking less and less attractive the longer I use it.
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Android on the touch is a work in progress. It is a hobby by fueled by enthusiasts, and given that it has come a LONG way in a short time. You shouldn't expect things to "just work", but often they do. (and IMHO better than WinMo.)
Also you are trying to compare a commercial app (Tom Tom) to a freeware alternative (mapDryod). This doesn't mean that it is inferior, but you usually have to pay the cost in time instead of money. Learning and tweaking the application that might not "just work" out of the box.
If Android on the touch isn't working out for you, then feel free to jump in and help get things working. Trollish comments and demanding functionality on threat of dropping Android doesn't help anyone much.
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Android on the touch is a work in progress. It is a hobby by fueled by enthusiasts, and given that it has come a LONG way in a short time. You shouldn't expect things to "just work", but often they do. (and IMHO better than WinMo.)
Also you are trying to compare a commercial app (Tom Tom) to a freeware alternative (mapDryod). This doesn't mean that it is inferior, but you usually have to pay the cost in time instead of money. Learning and tweaking the application that might not "just work" out of the box.
If Android on the touch isn't working out for you, then feel free to jump in and help get things working. Trollish comments and demanding functionality on threat of dropping Android doesn't help anyone much.
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I am not talking about "Android on the Touch"...I am talking about Android in general - NO Android phone in the world can have GPS that can even come close to matching WinMo's available apps. - no complaining here, just a fact now after my research.
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my experience tom tom and destinator both worked much better with agps. i used both
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better, hmm...yes technically - in terms of getting an initial lock (15 seconds with a data plan, or 30 seconds without data....big deal. once you had a fix it stayed fixed until you rebooted or went into an underground cave or something (came back the second you walked out). Anyway, I have my answer to my original post...might be back on WinMo in a week or so. Bummer.
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NO Android phone in the world can have GPS that can even come close to matching WinMo's available apps. - no complaining here, just a fact now after my research.
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Still trollish.. I for one find the tone of your posts to be unnecessarily aggressive, arrogant and unhelpful.
If you think that WinMo is better, maybe you should go back to using it?
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Still trollish.. I for one find the tone of your posts to be unnecessarily aggressive, arrogant and unhelpful.
If you think that WinMo is better, maybe you should go back to using it?
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I have been 100% factual in my statements. Offline GPS routing and maps are not available like they are on WinMo.....that is what I wanted to know when I posted this thread, and I got my answer. I am sorry you don't like the answer.
Besides, I already said I might go back to WinMo in a week.