Stylus Sensor Location? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Does anyone know where the stylus sensor is located? I am having trouble with it, and the stylus is not moving in and out like it used to. I pushed what looked like a magnet back into the side of the stylus port, and now the stylus moves freely again, but now the sensor doesn't work at all. In Gyrator, it just shows STYLUS, not IN or OUT like it used to.
Thanks

Switch...
It's not a sensor, it's a micro-switch located about a third of the way up the stylus slot. It's operated by a small plastic 'notch' which releases the switch when you draw the stylus out. It sounds like the plastic notch is either broken or missing altogether. Take the back cover off, remove the stylus and look in the stylus slot level with the first 'n' in 4GB Internal Storage. I don't know what you can do about it if it is indeed broken?

Thanks.
I had it working again after messing with it with a paper clip, but it didn't last long. Guess ill wait for something else to break, and bring it to Sprint for repair. Funny thing is, the phone is less than a week old.

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Broken Standby button

I remembered that I had left my XDA IIi in my friend's car as I was leaving, so I asked him if he could open his car and pass it to me. Before my eyes he makes this huge fumble, like a bar of soap in his hands, and it comes crashing to the concrete floor!! :shock: :x
Apart from a few scuffs and scratches it seemed ok, until I tried to use the standby button. There was no click to it, and it only works now and again if I press it in the right place with enough force.
So I dismantled it to take a further look, and I can clearly see that the micro switch is broken.
Has anyone attempted to unsolder one of these? Looks a little too dodgy to me with the multi-layered board. As I don't use the 'tape recorder' button, I could swap it for that one if it was possible.
Such a shame for such small damage. Any ideas what I should do?
tia

Kaiser turns back on again in belt-pocket without a reason.

Hi @ all !
There´s a thing very annoying in the new Kaiser... You cannot use any belt-pocket with magnetic closers !
After setting the phone to standby via one short press on power button, I found it back turned on again, everytime I took it out of the belt-pocket.
First I thought, that this must be the keyboard slide mechanism, cause the phone also comes back, when you slide out the keyboard, but I kept an eye on it, not the move the slider while putting it into the pocket and back out again. Then I thought, that it was the light sensor, but some tests made me sure, that it must be something else.
Finally I found out, that it turns back on again, cause I´m still using the belt-pocket of my old TyTN I with the 2 magnets as closing mechanism... If you try and hold a magnet over the keyboard in the area of S,D,E,X,F or even on the back side in the same area and move it around just a little bit, the phone turns on... Crazy, but true !
Now I know, why they gave that awful new belt-pocket with the tape-closer to the Kaiser...
Hope that helps
Marco
It is partly related to keyboard... it has a magnetic sensor that it is activated when keyboard is released, so the magnet from your holster tricks the sensor into believing keyboard is out, so it activates screen.
I guess thats why they have the velcro closer on the one that is shipped with the phone. This is somthing to consider when buying a nice Piel Frama one.
Absolutely it's the keyboard magnet operated switch that does it. But, I know you can run a magnet (let's say the case magnet ) over the d-pad area (seems to do it on mine) and the Kaiser will turn on. - However, I have been using the TyTn case also and I have not noticed it turning on just by sliding the Kaiser in and out. In fact I have just sat here and put it in and out every which way (for the last ten minutes) and it has not come on.
Maybe your magnets are stronger than mine or your keyboard switch more sensitive? I am also not keen on that "tape" closing on the new case.
Mike
lol i wish i would have read that some place, i thought it was the keyboard some switch but didnt think they would use a magnet, it was pissing me off a lot while i was driving, now i know i found on my own, but the magnet that i have is shielded a bit, but still just the right position and it will trigger the switch
I sure hope this was posted some place in a FAQ or wiki, if not it should be and if it was, then shame on me for not reading that part or noticing it
Magnetic sensor via magnet in holster.
Just found out this "feature" with a BB holster...
Has anyone found a way to exploit/use this feature to turn-on the device when removed from the holster?
That is something I always envied with my wifes Blackberry.
I've noticed this too
I have the same problem, but since mine is set not to wakeup when the keyboard slides open I can't see how the magnet could be the culprit.
I had the same problem with my Nokia and Kaiser.....Never thought it was because of the magnet sensor in the device....To tell the truth...I didnt know that it had one inside.....Thanks for the info....
Would it affect the sensor in anyways....if it doesnt, I can actually use this "feature" so my phone is awake each time I pull it out of the belt case......

[Q] Stylus Problem - PLEASE HELP...

Hi,
When I pull my stylus - nothing happens... doesn't turn on or unlock device.
or during a call opens "notes".
Everything is Checked - it should do it, but it won't...
Any Ideas ???
Thanks
Take out the stylus, then remove the rear panel from your diamond. Look to see if the tiny magnet strip has become dislodged. This happened to mine after I'd had it just two days... it made it difficult to insert the stylus, and it just felt all wrong, because the strip had stuck itself in an awkward position. It also wouldn't recognize when the stylus was withdrawn.
I very nearly returned my diamond under warranty, until I looked closely at the stylus aperture and noticed this issue. I fixed it with a tiny spot of super glue on the magnetic strip and deft use of some plastic tweezers... saved days of re-programming a replacement.
Mr. Orange owes me a beer I reckon ;-)
Thanks for the reply...
The magnetic strip is there... I feel the magnet working...
but the diamond doesn't recognize when its in or out...
Anyone ?? Help - is it hardware or software ????
also a problem with the magnet strip
I own my diamond now for three weeks and something went wrong with the magnetstrip..it looks like it is still inplace but the magnetic force is stronger on the outside of the phone then on the inside (where its supposed to be) I'm trying to move te strip in the right position. but is not working.(seems like te strip is in the correct position)
It just happened. Really annoying..The phone goes on when I remove the stylus. (and the stylus is holding , but I don't get "the magnetic snap anymore"
Itay Shekel said:
Hi,
When I pull my stylus - nothing happens... doesn't turn on or unlock device.
or during a call opens "notes".
Everything is Checked - it should do it, but it won't...
Any Ideas ???
Thanks
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shalom! go to:
settings/personal/phone/advanced (tab)/"when a call is connecting, open the Notes application when stylus is pulled out"
also in the diamond's manual

[Q] S Pen Calibration

My S Pen doesn't seem very accurate. When I touch the screen with it, it is off by a couple of millimeters. This is very annoying when drawing.
Is there a way to calibrate the screen/pen or something?
ltrulsse said:
My S Pen doesn't seem very accurate. When I touch the screen with it, it is off by a couple of millimeters. This is very annoying when drawing.
Is there a way to calibrate the screen/pen or something?
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Well, that "problem" it isn't that. They need to do that because they want you to see the line that are you drawing.
If you enter in to the options of the drawing pen and change to left handed, you will see how that millimeters move to the other side of the pen. So, 1 2 up and 1 or 2mm left/right are necessary and it is how the wacom screens works. In other side I have tried a lot of wacom devices and this is one of the most accurate.
The only problem that I see it is the pen that if you don't give enough pressure it doesn't works, and if you give much, then it will writes in "bold" rather than skinny lines.
Try to move the pen without pressing it, only light slide and see how it doesn't do anything.
Other funny thing on the wacom devices is that the accuracy is not the same in the center of the screen and in the side of it. Problems of magnetism
Did you try pen pressure with autodesk sketchbook, is it working ?
Hi
Just a quick question for you who have the phone and use the pen. When you use your pen for drawing, what happens when your hand (which you hold the pen with) touches the screen? It must be annoying always to write without touching the screen with the hand/fingers like you would do if you were to write with an ordinary pen on a classic paper.
drelle said:
Hi
Just a quick question for you who have the phone and use the pen. When you use your pen for drawing, what happens when your hand (which you hold the pen with) touches the screen? It must be annoying always to write without touching the screen with the hand/fingers like you would do if you were to write with an ordinary pen on a classic paper.
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The good thing is that u can touch the screen with finger when u write, unlike pure capacitive screen
If u touch the note with finger u will get a mark, ie u can use ur finger to write on the note
If u touch the area of screen above the note, the note app disappears to show the app beneath it and when u remove the finger the note comes back. This is to jot down things from the app beneath it. Hope this makes sense.
ltrulsse said:
My S Pen doesn't seem very accurate. When I touch the screen with it, it is off by a couple of millimeters. This is very annoying when drawing.
Is there a way to calibrate the screen/pen or something?
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I'm curious, are you left handed?
There is a setting: settings -> pen settings -> dominant hand.
I changed mine to left handed (which I am), and when my right handed friend used it, he complained that it was off by a millimeter or too to the right.
- Frank
drelle said:
Hi
Just a quick question for you who have the phone and use the pen. When you use your pen for drawing, what happens when your hand (which you hold the pen with) touches the screen? It must be annoying always to write without touching the screen with the hand/fingers like you would do if you were to write with an ordinary pen on a classic paper.
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Thats not an issue as when the pen is touching (so it's active), the screen will no longer accept any additional touches. So with your fingers, multi touch will be active for upto 10 (I believe) seperate touches at once, but as soon as the pen is touching the screen, it will only pick up the pen and no additional touches from your fingers etc so you can rest your fingers on the screen while you are writing.
Thanks for the explanation that makes sense nevertheless the offset is annoying and difficult to get used to.
Try this. It works for me.
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-calibrate-galaxy-note-s-pen.html
try turn on the auto rotation
Or turn off auto rotation
Just try...
Actually all this is nonsense.
The offset is variable and depends on the angle of the pen.
The most simple way to test this and to get used to it, is to open
a S-memo. Then instead of using the line option you choose the
eraser option. Touch the screen and on the screen you see a circle.
Now with the pen on the screen change the angle of the pen and you will see
the tip of the pen 'move' inside the circle. Now get used to the angle of the pen
where the tip is in the center of the circle. Once you are used to this angle your pen will be dead on when drawing.
Remember way back when you learned how to write, it took you days to get used to holding a pen or pencil the right way.
I can recommend the official samsung s-pen holder for a much nicer feeling when using the pen.
Hope this helps
Keethos said:
Thats not an issue as when the pen is touching (so it's active), the screen will no longer accept any additional touches. So with your fingers, multi touch will be active for upto 10 (I believe) seperate touches at once, but as soon as the pen is touching the screen, it will only pick up the pen and no additional touches from your fingers etc so you can rest your fingers on the screen while you are writing.
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I just want to clarify thhis, the pen needs to be touching and in writing pressure on the screen for it to stop accepting input from your skin.
friedje said:
Actually all this is nonsense.
The offset is variable and depends on the angle of the pen.
The most simple way to test this and to get used to it, is to open
a S-memo. Then instead of using the line option you choose the
eraser option. Touch the screen and on the screen you see a circle.
Now with the pen on the screen change the angle of the pen and you will see
the tip of the pen 'move' inside the circle. Now get used to the angle of the pen
where the tip is in the center of the circle. Once you are used to this angle your pen will be dead on when drawing.
Remember way back when you learned how to write, it took you days to get used to holding a pen or pencil the right way.
I can recommend the official samsung s-pen holder for a much nicer feeling when using the pen.
Hope this helps
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Go to photo editor choose a bright picture choose the pen option from photo editor hold the phone on portrait mode and try to draw on the edge with a smaller tip on the pen then go switch dominated hand on spen and try again and then come back and say this isn't a devs calibration problem or coding or call it how you want. But give attention to
PHOTO EDITOR
PEN OPTION
PORTRAIT MODE
RIGHT HAND DOMINATED > RIGHT SIDE
LEFT HAND DOMINATED > LEFT SIDE
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This idea that we need to see where we are writing is just as imbecilic as Motorola's idea of protecting users from rain drops. Back then, it stoped you from playing any games that required you to keep your finger stationary for more than 15 seconds. Here, it makes drawing and writing very difficult.
I don't ****ing see where I'm writing when I'm using a paper, why would I need that on my phone's screen?
I have also problems using my spen. Is it realy normal to put quite much pressure on the pen to write sth.? It's realy hart to dram thin lines without any interruption of the line..... feels as if that'S not "normal"
how about yours? Is that normal?
I don't know if this will help, but my s-pen was off a few millimeters too after an official update. I tried calibrating the accelerometer and gyro and the s-pen became accurate again. I'm not sure though if this indeed did the trick or if my mind was just playing tricks on me.
Thanks, I'll try that, too. But my Problem primarily is not the millimetres off, it's the pressure needed to draw sth.
I also wrote Samsung's support yesterday. I'll see what they say.
I won't flash my phone before I can be sure that it's okay and I don't have to return it.....
Matrox182 said:
Thanks, I'll try that, too. But my Problem primarily is not the millimetres off, it's the pressure needed to draw sth.
I also wrote Samsung's support yesterday. I'll see what they say.
I won't flash my phone before I can be sure that it's okay and I don't have to return it.....
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iam having the exact same problem..please tell me if you find a solution.
it didnt happen with the pen which came with phone..it had the millimeters away problem..and when i lost i ordered new pen this new pen has more pressure problem..its very hard to draw thin lines
friedje said:
Actually all this is nonsense.
The offset is variable and depends on the angle of the pen.
The most simple way to test this and to get used to it, is to open
a S-memo. Then instead of using the line option you choose the
eraser option. Touch the screen and on the screen you see a circle.
Now with the pen on the screen change the angle of the pen and you will see
the tip of the pen 'move' inside the circle. Now get used to the angle of the pen
where the tip is in the center of the circle. Once you are used to this angle your pen will be dead on when drawing.
Remember way back when you learned how to write, it took you days to get used to holding a pen or pencil the right way.
I can recommend the official samsung s-pen holder for a much nicer feeling when using the pen.
Hope this helps
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This is absolutely correct... the stylus orientation definitely does affect the point offset.
The problem is (at least on mine) is that the "left-handed" setting appears to do nothing. The point offset is the same regardless of the setting (it's biased for right handed), so trying to write left handed is very hard.
How many people that are having the problem are 'lefties'? If I pretend to be right handed, the offset is perfect (regardless of the left or right setting). This has to be a bug and I'll presume it'll get fixed soon. Because it's really quite intolerable as a leftie.
Today I upgraded my phone to Criskos rom with Abyss kernel and all accuracy problems are gone for me.Never had problem with pressure.
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[Q] Problem with display / S-pen??

Hi guys
I am not sure if this has been posted before, i did a quick search but nothing shows up.
Sometimes If I hold the pen close enough (but without touching) the screen would annoyingly picks it up. The problem is way more apparent if I hold the phone upside down, with the screen facing downwards and holding the pen inclined at an angle. Is this a common problem?
I have a video link but unfortunately I cant post the link here it wouldn't let me. Go to youtube and search "Galaxy note s-pen problem" the one by dudelmt
GALAXYNOTE said:
Hi guys
I am not sure if this has been posted before, i did a quick search but nothing shows up.
Sometimes If I hold the pen close enough (but without touching) the screen would annoyingly picks it up. The problem is way more apparent if I hold the phone upside down, with the screen facing downwards and holding the pen inclined at an angle. Is this a common problem?
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Wacom styluses are magnetic based, not capacitive, so technically it doesn't need to touch the screen. You can place a piece of paper over it and trace images for example.
I can't reproduce what you are seeing though. If I open s-memo, and place the stylus in contact with the screen with no pressure, it doesn't trace.
Just watched the video - holy cow, your pen is nowhere close to the note. wow. it looks like it's a good 1.5 cm or so.
- Frank
For the lazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VfkXo0KU5c&sns=em
Can not reproduce this on my device. Sounds like some electronic magnet issues or perhaps some other pen?? Anyways, sounds like you should get your device replaced unless you wish to keep it as a Magical Note ;-)
No really can not reproduce your issue on my note.
Do you use your phone upside down often?
(really tired and sarcastic, I know it occurs right side up too )
Faulty Pen
You have a faulty pen! Your pressure sensor from pen's tip is defective, jammed, or maybe only the white tip is physically stuck.
Everybody could reproduce this behavior by putting the pen close to screen, with memo app running, and applying pressure on pen's tip with your finger/nail.
So it's normal for the S-pen not to register if there is no pressure applied despite contact? Because that is what is happening with my s-pen. There is contact, no pressure, and it does not register. Is this how it is suppose to work?
Also, does the S-pen have a very faint click or sound when applying pressure like it is activating a pressure sensitive "something".
Thanks
Same problem here.
My Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgFLb8bTnXY
I contacted Samsung for replace the Pen, but they told me that is the first time they receive this type of problem.. so.. they will tell me something after some check..
Same problem for me, noticed that it's usually after the first time you touch the screen with the pen, like it still thinks the pen is touching even though its not. I'll log it with Samsung too see if they give me the same 'haven't seen this before' line.
I also have the same issue, it's rather annoying.
Will play around and see what I can find out.
Did Someone find a replace for the S-Pen?
Same problem here, appears to be worse when you first start using the pen. They should add a calibration option for the pressure to fix this, i think its now auto calibrating and that's why the problem looks worse at start.
FIXED- S Pen Problems...
Hi guys,
I had the same problem of the S Pen drawing while hovering about 15mm above the screen, I managed to fix it but it ain't easy....
It involves pulling the pen apart and there are tiny parts in there!
I am kicking myself I did not take photos, but I honestly didn't think I would get it to work again...
If anyone is still having probs, I can make up a tutorial of what you need to do.
Atleast you MAY not have to buy another S Pen.
Cheers,
Dan.
heelerdog said:
Hi guys,
I had the same problem of the S Pen drawing while hovering about 15mm above the screen, I managed to fix it but it ain't easy....
It involves pulling the pen apart and there are tiny parts in there!
I am kicking myself I did not take photos, but I honestly didn't think I would get it to work again...
If anyone is still having probs, I can make up a tutorial of what you need to do.
Atleast you MAY not have to buy another S Pen.
Cheers,
Dan.
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waiting for a tutorial
S-Pen repair tutorial- not for the faint-heated
OK...
Now I believe everyone that is having problems has at one time or another accidently or on purpose pulled the rear end out.
From what I have seen you CANNOT replicate this fault without that happenning.
Using a small blade prise the button from the Spen starting at the rear end.
The button will flex and pop out.
Pull the rear end off the pen (again ) now CAREFULLY and into a small tray if possible, turn the pen upside down and the 'bits' will come out, they are:
white nib
tiny O ring
tiny disk with nob one end and hole the other
electronics with button
What had happened on mine is that the o ring, disk and nib had pulled apart so that the disk and the wire-wound rod were always in contact so the Note always thought that the pen was in contact with the screen.
The correct order of bits is:
Nib-Disk-O Ring- Rest of electronics...
you will see the nib has a nob that will locate into the disk, the other side of the disk will hold the oring and all this sits against the wire-wound rod.
NO I AM NOT PULLING MINE APART AGAIN FOR PICS!!!
I put the electronics back in first and then using tweezers put the other bits back in through the button hole before carefully sliding it all back to the nib-end of the pen.
The button then pushes back in and locks.
Now, I a happy to answer questions, or if you like, and if you trust me, I am happy to have you send your pen to me here in Australia and I will repair it if i can.
Mine has been 100% since I did this...
Hope this helps!
Dan.
This sounds like an individual problem. For if the Note was faulty as described then it would have been noticed by the 80% in the poll here who like me think the note is pretty perfect.
Individuals and S Pen failures
I agree Gaugerer, it seems though that more and more individuals are finding this problem as more and more notes are sold...
Atleast it is fixable without the exhorbitant price asked for for a replacement stylus.
Cheers, Dan.
Hi I am thinking of also getting a Note and thus I went to a store for trying it out since I want to use it esp. also for taling notes during my meetings.
Thus the S-Pen is one of my keys in the decision and it did disappoint me:
I tried writing some text in the S-note app and when ever I finished a word and raised the pen the line is still drawn further and thus the text was not quite readable.
Same happens when I use the handwriting field at the bottom (instead of the screen keyboard). Then due to the lines being drawn further when the pen does not touch the screen, the recognition puts together the words.
So I think the problem is facing on many devices.
Does anyone ever get a better / more in-details answer from Samsung? Or should we one by one contact their support?
frankiboy_01 said:
Hi I am thinking of also getting a Note and thus I went to a store for trying it out since I want to use it esp. also for taling notes during my meetings.
IThus the S-Pen is one of my keys in the decision and it did disappoint me:
I tried writing some text in the S-note app and when ever I finished a word and raised the pen the line is still drawn further and thus the text was not quite readable.
Same happens when I use the handwriting field at the bottom (instead of the screen keyboard). Then due to the lines being drawn further when the pen does not touch the screen, the recognition puts together the words.
So I think the problem is facing on many devices.
Does anyone ever get a better / more in-details answer from Samsung? Or should we one by one contact their support?
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I contacted "Samsung Exclusive Italy" but they simply told me that check for this problem and recall me. I Never received a call from them.
Thanks to heelerdog for the tutorial, but i dont understand well english, and without some pics I'm afraid to break the S-pen

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