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can anyone point my in the right direction?

can anyone point my in the right direction and if there is a solution?
i have found a few errors with the tomtom map's(uk), and i was wondering if anyone knows if there is a updated map!

Hi
Tomtom only release new maps with a version upgrade (at wich point the old maps no longer work). what version are you running at the moment.
Regards
The Pilgrim
PS for all GPS problems go here
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thanks for the reply,
i am not sure what version i am running, how do i found out?
i only brought my tomtom a week or so ago

also, since i posted last, i have found more errors, and that's all in a small area of about 25 miles radias of where i live!
what's it gonna be like over the whole country?

I gues coverage of the UK isnt that reliable.
Personally I havent see important errors in NL, D, CH and I (of course I did not check every road). Major Roads of Europe seems to be OK too, but as much roads are missing you have to watch out more.
I suppose you use TomTom3 which has the most recent maps available for TomTom.
Map errors can be sent via the TomTom website to Teleatlas (the map supplier)

There are many errors in tomtom, the company rely on users to report mistakes to them so these can be rectified in future releases. I think there will always be errors in a program such as this because it is a mammoth task to compile all data correctly, assuming several stages of development, there are many errors that can arise in the entry of data. I think that despite the errors it is an incredible program when you take into account the very small amount of memory and the constraints of the cpu speeds and pocket pc operating system. It has saved me many hours of frustration and stress even in central London where the opportunities to take the wrong road are numerous. If anything better exists I would like to hear about it.

I think we need to distinguish between errors in the program (to be adressed by TomTom) and errors in the mapping (to be adressed by Teleatlas).
I found two anoying issues with TomTom:
- Bluetooth usage (with rom 1.72), see other threads. I logged a questions on that.
- auto re-calc directs you to earlier route too long

i guess i am using tomtom 3, yes the errors are i suppose, minor! and i was just wondering, as i am new to the whole tomtom/gps if there was a new verison or updated maps! (but in general its has been a great help to my driving life!)
i also read some where that there is a add on that picks up accidents etc, would you guys know where i can find this!

yes the software seems ok!
my issue is with the map's! i can be in a town, and it tells me that i am in a completly different county, but in the correct town that i am in etc
There is a town i visit quite often and its listed as the town near by and not the one i want. "you get what i mean, yes?"

Can you say which town/city you are referring to please. When I travel on the Cirencester road from junction 11a M5, I am told to turn left into the embankment surrounding the A road, on return it tells me to go right across the carriageway and into the same embankment/field, you have no choice but to ignore, it then tells me to turn around when possible but after ignoring this it gets back to normality.

gtivinny said:
i also read some where that there is a add on that picks up accidents etc, would you guys know where i can find this!
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this is called tomtom traffic. its a subcription service £32 P/A that downloads traffic information via gprs and displays incidents on your route.
you need to log in at the TT website and download the add-on there. i think you get 1 month free then you have to subscribe.
I must say the feature is by no means perfect. It does miss problems and report delays when there arn't any. i use it in conjunction with Radio traffic broadcasts and then make a judgement.
Regards
The Pilgrim

(the_pilgrim) thanks mate!!
(cruisin-thru) the town i am on about is baldock in hertfordshire,
it has baldock train station, but does know baldock town, its saying that it is letchworth, which is right next to baldock!

The way tomtom uses towns and placenames etc. is all to ****. The easiest way to navigate somewhere is via the postcode; but Tomtoms post code search is only 5 digits eg. DE72 3 this is also crap.
If you use this little gem its soooooo easy www.digitools.co.uk
this postcode program takes the whole postcode. This is usually about 20 houses (Possibly larger area in rural areas)
i would recommend installing Checkpoint before installing the postcode progam as this eases the instalation.
Checkpoint is a POI detector and can be downloaded here
http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/
it will alert you when you are a approaching a selectable POI.
If you use the speed camera database from here
www.pocketgps.co.uk/uksafetycameras.php
you can receive camera warnings as you aproach them
The best part about these programs is they are all FREE
Regards
The Pilgrim

Maps
There are basically only two suppliers of GPS maps in the UK and Europe. And they update the maps every few months or so.
The GPS software retailers, like Tom Tom license at a certain point, and freeze, allowing them to make chargeable upgrades.
As Tom Tom charged about £30 for the last update - from 2 to 3 (including the full maps of Europe I had also purchased, at no extra cost) I didn't feel to badly off.
There is an area on the Tom Tom web site to notify map defects. But don't expect them to be fixed quickly.
Tom Tom does have some issues with the way it stores place names, where there are more than one name the same, it can mix them up. It must stores towns and places in separate tables and look up values as required. I live near Shirley in the West Midlands and Tom Tom displays it at Shirley, Southampton. But it knows where to send me home!

urrr! which one do i need, i am waiting for my xda2 to arrive, so which 1 do i need??
i have tomtom 3 too. and i think the xda has pocket pc 2003 on it, am i right????
CheckPOInt - [Instructions]
GPS Assist (Pocket PC 2002 Only) - [Instructions]
POI-Warner - [Instructions]
Navigator 2
CheckPOInt - [Instructions]
GPS Assist (Pocket PC 2002 Only) - [Instructions]
POI-Warner - [Instructions]
CityMaps
Not Currently Supported
RoutePlanner
Not Currently Supported

go with checkpoint its free :wink:
The Pilgrim

gtivinny said:
urrr! which one do i need, i am waiting for my xda2 to arrive, so which 1 do i need??
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I personnaly uses TomTom 3 + Check POInt 3.2 for all spedd cameras and other POI. it works great although I have found the setup of Check POI to be non intuitive (but will work if you follow their web site instructions).
Now if you want 99.5% accuacy with maps, you'll have to cross the channel and move to France. :lol: :lol: :lol:
The maps are amaizingly precise, which suggest it has something to do with the company from which TomTom buy the maps from.

Best GPS Software for Kaiser?

Hey Folks -
I'm looking for the killer turn-by-turn software (with US Maps) - that I can digitally buy and install to my MicroSD. I've done a number of searches online looking for a product I can order and download (yes, I have the fever - IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION IS NECESSARY) and get working with.
POI's are very important to me as is speed and stability...
Can anyone chime in with their preference? Please also supply a URL where I can purchase your favorite application...
Thanks!
StacT

uh tomtom?

there's a million threads like this, just use a search.. u'll get ur answers instantly and won't have to wait.
Having said that, I tried Destinator, TomTom, Garmin XT, TeleNav and I still stayed with iGo, which I love above all others.
Some have cool features like traffic and all that.. some are just pain in the ass (destinator).. so if you can - try it all before u buy.

Of course - I know about the players (MIO, TOMTOM, etc...) but can't find a digital distributor for just the software to install on my kaiser (like pocketgear or handango)... do you have a link?

http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_ro_buy
scroll down to USA
wow.. they're actually really close to me, like 15-20 miles from me..
Anyway.. they have excellent US maps, at least I'm very happy with CA map - very detailed, over 2 million POIs.

Thanks for all the thoughts so far, but neither of them fits the bill -
1] The software must have North American/USA maps... iGo doesn't
2] The software must be downloadable...
Thanks!

Google maps. real-time and cheap!

liquidsilver said:
Google maps. real-time and cheap!
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Uh, cheap? It's free and sucks since you're download as you drive so a lot of the time maps just time-out. Mio Maps is one of the best, and TomTom is probably the best as far as being user friendly and simple, but, TomTom is pretty slow compared to Mio.

How about iGuidance v.4?
I've been using it for a few months. It has text-to-speech. The only problem is, you might i need GPSgate as some of the WM6.1 here doesn't refresh the screen often enough.
I've used TomTom too, it was nice but doesn't have text-to-speech.

I've used TomTom and it was pretty good, user friendly... only thing I didn't like about it was the routing and as the screen is touched it'll take you to the menu.
I've switched to Garmin and found that the one which suits me well so far --- more detail on maps, nothing popping up while touching the map on the screen, and looks a lot simpler. Its navigation software is not as "realtime" as TomTom, but is probably the most simplest to setup, install, and use

stact said:
2] The software must be downloadable...
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I don't know of one of the majors that is. With bandwidth costs they rarely fancy giving you GBs of map to download. Just buy one on a disc.

does anyone know of a good free one which allows you to put your own maps eg a photo of an os map or jpeg in for calibrating for camping hiking walking about woods ect.

I have been using a combination of TomTom and Google Maps. I use Google Maps for most of my POI's since they are updated, contain phone numbers, and are just plain easier to use. The TomTom POI's aren't that fantastic I've noticed. But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
My only complaint with TomTom is that you need around 1GB of storage on your SD card so you need a large one (I'm holding out for those 32s!) and it looks ugly when installed on the card. Random files and folders everywhere and it has to be on the root of the card. I'm a neat freak when it comes to file layouts so it drives me crazy.

what about ms live search?
I used it a few times on my recent vacation, it worked very well. Same benefits and drawbacks as google maps, but I think I like it's interface better than google maps.

Live Search has an arguably better navigation setup that Google Maps. GM closes when it loses it's data connection so it's worthless between cities where cell coverage is weak. MS does a better job of caching the maps and will stay active, showing the route and turns even when the data connection is lost. if I could only have one of them for road trips, it would be MS Live Search.

I've had no problems using iGuidance other than on several occasions, it took about 3 minutes to open for some reason. I also use Live Search and Google for a quick find when I need it.

godfa7h3r said:
But I will take the location I find in Google Maps and then use TomTom to navigate me there since navigation in Google Maps isn't really turn by turn and can't redirect you automatically if you miss a turn.
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haha i do the same exact thing,.... now if somebody could make a program where with one click u can transfer the address from google maps to tomtom, i'd pay for it

co-pilot live 7 will interface directly with MS live search if they ever release the NO CHARGE upgrade. it has been announced and was scheduled for release this month
BTW I paid $199 when Co-pilot 7 was released last year but the current price is $99 i guess the <$100 competition is getting to them.
I use and like Co-pilot live USA. I can't speak for other maps. the software comes preloaded on 2 gig SD card but you also get it on DVD. I copied the SD folders to my 6 gig SD card and all worked fine. the activation key is stored on local file sysem. but if you have to do a hard reset you can reactivate on same phone with no hassel.
for more info see www.alk.com

I have copilot as well, but at the $99 price point. The WM version is very nice. It comes with companion software for the desktop that just wont work on my vista laptop though.
Still for $150, you could buy a stand alone gps. But I thought about it and I always have this with me, so why buy another device? I didn't want to carry one.

No TomTom Weather with TT7?

When I was using TT6, I was able to get my local weather. Now, with TT7, it says it's not available in my region (yet). Anyone else getting this?

DJ Hellfire said:
When I was using TT6, I was able to get my local weather. Now, with TT7, it says it's not available in my region (yet). Anyone else getting this?
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Weather working fine on TT7 for me

Where do you live? I'm in NJ.

Works in California.

works in Bloomington, IN...

So you guys just installed the program normally and it just worked?

doesn't work in montgomery, alabama

Weird! Wonder what it is!

Works in Cleveand Ohio

But doesn't 'region' mean US? For example, over seas DVD's have different region codes than US. Am I correct?

works fine all over MD

DJ Hellfire said:
When I was using TT6, I was able to get my local weather. Now, with TT7, it says it's not available in my region (yet). Anyone else getting this?
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where did u guys get TT7 from?
i cant find it anywhere
a small advice about how i can get it is enough

b1prabu said:
where did u guys get TT7 from?
i cant find it anywhere
a small advice about how i can get it is enough
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679

Anyone who had the issue of not getting TomTom Plus to work ever find a solution? As with the OP, TomTom Plus (traffic, weather, etc.) worked for me in TT6, but in TT7, I get that same message saying that the service is not supported in my region (yet). I'm based in Northern California and I'm currently using the USA map that I just bought from TomTom.

work in uk

I had the same issue and after some consternation and trial and error, found that when I deleted the entire TT6 app including xml's dats etc., before installing TT7 I got that error about it not being available... I reinstalled TT6, then installed TT7 then uninstalled the TT6 app only and left the folders alone,now I get weather, traffic (2-day trial) and buddies. Must have something to do with the tt6 files that were originally tied to my Tilt. Did notice however that the key is different for TT7 than TT6 and since I had to replace my Tilt in the past 6 months-TomTom only allows changing the key once in 6 months and tells me to contact support which I am leery of since TT7 isn't native to the Tilt. Not a programmer, so not sure but seems to me that the TT6 files had something to do with it.

I tried what Alemaker suggested and had everything working with TT6, but when i tried to copy the files to TT7, nothing worked. At first, TT7 recognized my username from TT6, but i had to go into "edit account info" to use the other Plus services, and i got the same old error message. And, of course, my username went back to "anonymous".
has anyone gotten any plus services to work with TT7 and the USA maps in the US? i'm starting to think TT6 and TT7 might use different servers. (BTW, i went to TomTom and they said traffic was still in beta in the US - so they gave me a 3 month trial.)

has anyone tried to update via wifi and see if it works?
Funny thing is that it worked for me one time and then when I switched roms it stopped working.

Works fine in Northern Virginia, Washington D.C and the rest of the metropolitan area.
Try upgrading the weather in the TT7 settings within the program...and connect to the TT7 services tab in the application before you try to run the weather...that should fix it. look for and Sign in to the "TT service" icon thats in the options tabs..not the TT website though..theres a tab for it in the prefrences/settings tab underneath the "navigate to" option it will be there somewhere. After your in the TT services it should ask you if you want the weather option as well. If you dont have a TT account youll need to make an account..but u must be connected to the net on your tilt when the TT7 software is running because without internet you wont be able to connect to the TT services and weather function. So to make a TT account email, go to the www.tomtom.com or wutever web page through your tilts browser, make yourself an account email and redo all the instructions up top plus hard reset after you login with your new account and sign in inside the TT7 services and weather services again..that should and will make your weather work. Repeat the steps once youve connected to the TT services throughh a internet connection within the TT7 app

Anyone in NJ that has TT7 and Plus Services working
Been slumming the web and it seems the TT7 and Plus Services not working seems to be concentrated in NJ/NY... Just curious.. anyone in this area that has Plus Services working with TT7?

Getting Tomtom 7 / tt7 to work LEGALLY

Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!

That's interesting about moving the install folder... I haven't tried that. What I did do though was to uninstall Home 2.3 as I encountered the same problem and install Home Navigator 1.5. From there, you can just purchase maps of your choice. You need to link the device to a 'GO' device as they are the only models using version 7 software.
Hope this helps

raveydavy said:
Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!
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Place the contents of "Intern Gegeugen" into My Device/Program Files/Navigator on the Diamond. Connect via Activeynch and finf TomTom Navigator.exe in the above folder. Right click, choose create shortcut and paste that shortcut in My Device/Windows/Start Menu/Programs and rename it accordingly.

And after that you can connect with tomtom home 2.3 (for PDA). First you choose your memory location, get an error, go back and your device is connect.

I've just given that a go and moved the install onto the internal storage. It all still seems to work ok. One question though, other than free up the main memory are there any advantages/disadvantages to running the app from internal storage? (i.e. does it run slower from internal storage etc)

I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.

I have tried the above, but still cannot purchase any maps. when I Click on the maps i just get the message 'No Items Available'

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I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.
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same for me! tomtom home recognices my device but can't really communicate with it.
i use the maps i get with me touchcruise/xda orbit2, they are version 6.75.
connected with tomtom home 1, device can get connect. i used the maps from cdrom and could install them. afterwards i activated the map on my device using my product code card, no problem :-D

Only TT home 1.5 is compatible with Navigator.
What I did was upgrade my TT6 maps to the latest then using TT home transfered the maps to the device and installed TT 7 after. works well

I changed TT6 into TT7 and I could use the same maps. All is working fine.
One question:
TT7 does not get a fix, when phone is not on. I found it today, when I use Tomtom in a car about 10 minutes. I stopped and turned phone on, so Navigator 7 got the fix easily.
I have not agps on.
In Artemis I did not find this kind of symtom with Navigator 6.

i have also tomtom 6 with maps from my o2xda2. i've installed the maps from cd over tomtom home 1.5. it installed successfully. but in tomtom 7 on my diamond i can't still use the maps.. they aren't listed in manage maps?! what do i wtong?!
please help

i don't know, i just installed tt7, not 6, then connected it with tomtom 1.5.
put the cd in and i was capable to install the maps.

yeah... i did the same! all fine! but when i start tomtom on diamond i can't change the maps. i only see the demo-map. you can?

yes, i can. i even never installed the demo map. you know that you have to choose/change map in order to see the right one?

yes i know... but there who i can change the map i see only bern (demo-city-map)!!!

Not being a SatNav user I did this
I am not really a big user of SatNav as I read the signs on the road.
However, I am a lover of toys and have always kept a copy of tomtom nearby for fun.
I installed the XDA linked TT7.cab file (11.9mb) and directed it to Internal Storage.
Then I went online and created myself a tomtom account. I went through the maps purchase wizard stating my device was a GO 720 model.
I then purchased the 7.2 Great Britain and NI Map. £29.95 - even by my standards a bargain.
I then downloaded Home 2.3 and connected my Diamond as a disk system.
When the Diamond came up it challenged me to select the location of my product and I chose Internal Storage. It then promptly through up an error message.
I did a back and continued. When I went to MAPS etc it didn't find my map. So I clicked on the Update Pocket PC icon and there was my map.
It didn't take long to download and install (161 MB ish) and now I have a working TT7 with the 7.2 map.
I could also update the Pocket PC with free voices and POI's too from the TomTom website (although I have forgotten the steps just now).
The advantage is that I have a working, reliable, sexy, copy of Tomtom 7.
The negative is that I don't seem to be able to use MAP share. This is not a big deal for me (as I never actually use Sat Nav anyway!). It didn't seem to matter once I had bought the map what I set the device to be - PDA or GO 720.
I hope that this is useful as a legitimate way of getting Tomtom 7 onto your Diamonds...and all for £29.95.
I have done this twice - once for me to play and once for the missus to actually use.
Not a bit of Warez anywhere - for 30 quid why bother with Warez?
All the best,
Sam.

I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
df

sfere1 said:
I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
df
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No it's not a case of have they caught on. TomTom 7 the application on a PDA is not supported on TOMTOM Home 2.3. You need to use 1.5 . This is beacause at the moment only PNA devices are supported on 2.3
The Maps which you purchace to activate with your device to make the application work have not been released yet for PDA so you have to use backwardly compatible maps . 6.75 etc until you can purchase ver 7 maps
As for Warez the licenceing is with the maps only and not the application which is available to download from TomTom . If you was to load hacked Maps then this is WAREZ as the Licence is with the maps. You can only use your brought maps with one device and that is the device you purchaced it for. Hence you get the activation number from your device as it is device specific.
You cannot if you purchased maps already from a different device use them on another device . This is the License law and you need to purchase new maps every time you cahnge device . You can email TomTom support but they will tell you the same thing.

All maps are 30% cheaper at the moment, because they'll release the new version in the beginning of August.

The 30 price reduction is not for Navigator user as I found out last month.
As for only using the Maps for one device (true in a sense) though I managed to activate via TT home my maps twice on my Trintiy (as the Device ID changed once when I flashed an early ROM and activiate the same product code again for my Diamond - which is indicated on the TTcode website as three activations.
I have purchase new 6.75 maps for my Navigator 6 and know these will work on version 7 once on general release.

GPS Apps and Trapster

Guys, if your using VZNavigator and your like me, you have spent some time looking for a reliable replacement for the 9.99/mo charge of VZNavigator.
Well after looking a bunch I found a viable solution that is only a 1.66/mo.
Urban Horizon. This is a full featured GPS app as well as 3D virtualization program revealing buildings and topology. I dropped VZNavigator today.
Also if your looking to avoid speedtraps and cop stops and red light pictures please give the free app trapster a full review. So far it has been very reliable and popular in my area. (New Jersey / New York) Its real time data tracking and maps / traffic in one app, very useful.

Links are helpful

TRAPSTER
http://www.trapster.com/
URBAN HORIZON
http://www.novlummobile.com/

Does the GPS app work good? i have heard that some Navigation programs are not that great. Is it a real Nav or does it use the browser? How do you think it performs?????? I thought you had to get one that was actually in a memory card to be a real GPS? I could be wrong and thats why I'm asking you about performance.....because I'm looking for a good one at this time...
thanks

I use Google Maps layered with Nav4All...Google has great map and turn by turn directions while driving, but not voice. Thats where Nav4All comes in. Just punch the directions in Nav4all, then open Google Maps repeat the directions and be on your way to your destination with visual and audio navigation!
I do not take credit for coming up with this, but thanks to wherever I saw it!

IGO 8, TT7, or Garmin XT are the only ways to go. Do some searching.

HTCexy said:
I use Google Maps layered with Nav4All...Google has great map and turn by turn directions while driving, but not voice. Thats where Nav4All comes in. Just punch the directions in Nav4all, then open Google Maps repeat the directions and be on your way to your destination with visual and audio navigation!
I do not take credit for coming up with this, but thanks to wherever I saw it!
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You know, I never thought to do it this way...

GPS App
I am using CoPilot Live 8 and it is working very well. It has turn-by-turn, voice guidance, POIs, etc., etc., etc. Best of all there is NO monthly fee. I bought it on sale for $19.99 during the Black Friday sale, and it is on sale for $24.99 right now. No . . . I don't work for them - it just works really well for me! Give it a look.
Take a look at http://www.alk.com/copilot/

Does Copilot work in the US? Couldn't find the info on their website.

It does work in the US.
The version I bought has maps (to download) for all of North America. I downloaded them to my PC with the destop software (I think they call it Copilot Central 2.0) you can also download, and then copied that to my Imagio. Just remember to connect to your Imagio as a Disk Drive rather than ActiveSync when you copy the maps. This writes them directly to your storage card. I forgot to do this the first time and it attempted, unsuccessfully as you can imagine, to write the gigabyte+ file to the storage memory. :-(

Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I like VZNavigator, but I like $10 a month more ;-)

Yea, and for me - a one-time fee of $24.99 is all the better!