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Hi, I have done a lot of searching on this topic, but haven't been able to find anything definitive on the best way to install blackberry connect. I am about to pick up a Siemens SX66 (Cingular version, but will be using on Tmobile) and want to make sure that I will be able to get the blackberry functionality to work.
I have a few questions/comments/observations that I would love to get everyones feedback on. If there something out there that explains how to get it working, I am sorry and please feel free to point me in the right direction.
1. My understanding is that the blackberry connect software is in the extended rom. So far I have been able to find the following cab files which I believe have the blackberry software: htc_pocketpc_tmo_germany_2.0.0.25-18.cab, HTC_PocketPC_TMO_Austria_Germany_Load_Working.cab and htc_pocketpc_tmo_england_2.0.0.25-18.cab. Not sure what else is in here, but it looks like the blackberry client is there as well.
2. If I use one of those roms, what language will the software be? Will have to use the tmobile UK version for english?
3. I have been reading about people have problems with the phone rom. These are post from a while back, it seems that the UK blackberry client need version 1.0 and the german version need 1.06? Is this correct or can I use the lasted phone rom?
4. Is there any limitations on the System Rom or Extended Rom? Do I need a specific version? I want to make sure I have english on the device though.
5. Let's say I do get all the right software. Is there a problem in the US where Blackberry won't register Blackberry Connect PINs? I was reading in another forum that someone was having a problem with this on their SX66 and also I am upgrading from a Sony Ericsson P910a where I couldn't get my PIN added to Blackberry servers.
The main reason I want the device is to replace my blackberry and this is extremely important. Other functionality is awesome, but secondary as I need to make sure I have access to my corporate email.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!
There are 2 threads in the blue angel section that have Blackberry connect ih the title. Might be of help.
Thanks saw those posts after, I figured the info would be in this section. I posted some questions there as well, but any help would be appreciated. Not sure if this is going to work....oh well..
To the best of my knowledge...
NOBODY has been able to make the BB Connect software work on SX66 on Cingular.
I've all but given up. Maybe WM2005 will be different...
Crap, though I take it the problem is Cingular not the phone right? Do you know if anyone has been able to get it to work on T-Mobile? What is the problem you are having, is it the PIN / IMEI registration issue?
that's certainly a part of it...
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
Re: that's certainly a part of it...
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Umm i hate to say this but also that PIN number is alos tied to a carrier, and RIM will NOT release that PIN number to be used on another carrier's network, i know, i am a data support rep with Cingular. if you want something just like the Blackberry then go pay and get the GoodLink solution, otherwise i wouldnt complain about something free that cingular offers, I use it and i agree it isnt the best but works pretty damn well considering it FREE!!! for the PErsonal Edition. Besides, if you wanted to use the BWC (BlackBerry Web client) it isnt exactly Push either, the only forms available are the Redirector and the BES, but considering Congular is offering a solution for FREE i woulnt complain if i were you. If you wanna get mad at not having that solution get mad at RIM not Cingular...... :!:
Re: that's certainly a part of it...
Well I have the desktop software in english and just installed the german software on my sx66. I think I got it to connect but its hard to tell. Iwonder if there is any other software out there....
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Damm, I actually just found the software for 2.0 software for Tmobile UK. Now it only gets an IP address for two seconds then looses it. I think its the same problem I had with my p910a I can't get the server to recognize it.
Please prove me wrong!
Figure out how to make this work, and you'll be the hero of every Cingular / SX66 user on this board!
I am getting much closer now, I hacked (hex edit) one of the dll files to point to an IP address of 206.51.26.192 instead of 206.51.26.189. I know the .192 is the right address from my old blackberry. Now I actually stay live on the APN with an IP address and everything, where before I would get one for a second and get kicked out. I think it's a matter of registering it now. If anyone wants to try this dll, replace the one in the windows directory. Also I will upload the version of blackberry connect I am using... Please try as well...
Here is the dll I mentioned...replace this with the one in windows directory
Seem s like you are getting somewere on this issue.
Feel like writing a How to so that we can post it on wiki?
If you need help PM me I can also move what ever files that you like on the FTP site.
Thanks, just haven't gotten it to work totally yet, but that may just need a call to Tmobile to ask them to set it up. I have made progress in the fact that my blackberry.net apn now stays connected, where before it would disconnect after a minute or two. I think I am half way there. Need some more people to play around who have tried before to see if they get anywhere...
Can you also post the desktop software version you're using?
There hasn't been a recent posting of the BB Config software in quite some time...
Thanks!
It's too large, check the ftp server. look for somethign called bb_desktop_sw_mda3_20.exe It's up there somewhere.... poke around uploads as well...
Oh wait... I got it from tmobile directly, hehehe...
http://www.t-mobile.de/business/blackberry/smallbusiness/1,8236,8577-_,00.html
So you're using the German version?
Make it work, and I won't care what language it's in!
I agree, first I tried the german one, before I found the Tmobile Uk one. Did you try downloading everything and installing?
yup...
still can't make it work on my end... although I haven't changed anything in Hex...
Try the dll I fixed up also, let me know if it makes any difference....
i thought to ope a new thread about this.
i tried to get bb connect on wm6 (at&t) versions 2 and 4.
i didn't get any of them to work.
did sombody succeeded in the meantime?
is there a new version coming up?
hope te hear...
Tried them both too on my 750C w/ WM6, unsuccessful. Right now I am on BBC 4.0.0.90, still not working, getting from: No Connection -> Network Available -> Data Tunnel Available (at this point gets an IP address) -> No connection. The PIN is never generated so BBC is unusable for now. I was following a thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294218 , tried to modify my AKU version (didn't try to modify the build in the ROM though) w/ no results.
In the mean while, Hermes/ATT 8525 w/ WM6 and BBC 4.0.0.90 works just fine. What are we missing here ? Anyone w/ a clue ?
I am happy that someone opened a thread for this, I hope we'll get a fix.
Thanks,
HC
i've upgraded mine with wm6 non attws , unable to connect on bbc4 as well
does anybody know the latest b uild of the bb connect software (and where to get it)
i have (downloaded from vodafone nl)
blackberry version 4.0.0.67
transport version 4.0.0.70
and does anybody has a list of new features in later releases
I have 4.0.0.90, check the thread that I posted above for links to download it. Also Google for "Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.90" and I am sure you'll get something. I think the 4.0.0.90 version is not specifically for Treo 750, it's rather for larger screen devices, like the Hermes etc. but it doesn't bother me scrolling a little bit in one or two tabs.
Good luck,
HC
i'm on 750v wm6.0 vodafone and can't get bbc4 to work
not even 2.1
argh!
pissing me off!
I recommend you just to wait a couple of days with the device switched off. I have a HTC Touch, vodafone, Germany. Downloaded Blackberry 2.1 and 4.0, didn't work. Never got a PIN ("PIN pending"). Read somewhere that it worked after a couple of days, so I switched my device off and was frustrated. I even wanted to sell it on eBay already. After 2 days I switched it on again, and, guess what, I had a PIN in the Blackberry software!!! Then I configured my Touch using BlackBerry Activesync Software, and it's now working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Version 4.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So my recommendation: Try to wait 48 hours.
Currently no BB client is working with WM6 Treo, no matter if you use 2.1.2.52 or 4.0.0.67 or 4.0.0.90. Its always the same, as soon as you connect to the BlackBerry infrastructure you are blocked >>> no IP-adress >>> no connection. Sometimes you can connect one time and when you send the PIN via register now you lose the connection and never get it back again. RIM blocks all device/client/provider combinations which are not supported by the providers. So if you have a provider who supports BlackBerry on WM6 Treo you should be able to connect. I have not found a provider who is doing that so far. The same is with HTC S710. This device worked fine with BB connect 4.0.0.67 for some time, but now you are blocked by RIM if your provider does not support BB on the device.
georgedorn said:
Currently no BB client is working with WM6 Treo, no matter if you use 2.1.2.52 or 4.0.0.67 or 4.0.0.90. Its always the same, as soon as you connect to the BlackBerry infrastructure you are blocked >>> no IP-adress >>> no connection. Sometimes you can connect one time and when you send the PIN via register now you lose the connection and never get it back again. RIM blocks all device/client/provider combinations which are not supported by the providers. So if you have a provider who supports BlackBerry on WM6 Treo you should be able to connect. I have not found a provider who is doing that so far. The same is with HTC S710. This device worked fine with BB connect 4.0.0.67 for some time, but now you are blocked by RIM if your provider does not support BB on the device.
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Wrong. I have been using BBC 4 on my Hermes for months with AT&T and as far as I know the Hermes is supposed to be a "blocked" device. It's not that RIM is blocking it, it's that the software has to be HEX edited to work with WM6. No version of BBC will work on WM6 on the Treo until someone smarter than me can cook up a ROM that is HEX edited to run BBC.
Anyone succeeded in gettings this to work - I'm about to flash to Wm6 so better be sure...
BBConnect for WM6
gnyf said:
Anyone succeeded in gettings this to work - I'm about to flash to Wm6 so better be sure...
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I just got this and it works perfectly on my S710. I had got wipe the device and do a fresh install of the application. Give it a shot. Make sure you have an Active Sync connection to your device before trying to install.
http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_standard_bb_4.0.0.84.zip
On the AT&T Rom you get Uncertified System Software detected on the install. I assume this is because the S710 is a smartphone rather than a WM device?
Strange thing today on my 750c - Got PIN
Hi all,
It seems that something is changing w/ either RIM or ATT. I installed again today BBC 4.0.0.90 onto my 750c w/ WM6 ATT leaked ROM, after the normal reboot, surprisingly, BBC service connected to the network and I got a PIN. Clearly it said "Connected" on the status tab. Well, I connected the device to my laptop and ran the BBC Desktop, the system was provisioned properly (I think ...), Notes Backend, but now it fails to connect to Blackberry, same symptoms as before, even after multiple soft resets, see comments above. I'll play around some more w/ it and let you all know if I get anything to work. In the mean while, if anyone else has any success, please share ....
Good luck
HC
PS. Posted this in the "Palm Treo 750" forum too ... hope I don't bother anyone
hchickers said:
I have 4.0.0.90, check the thread that I posted above for links to download it. Also Google for "Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.90" and I am sure you'll get something. I think the 4.0.0.90 version is not specifically for Treo 750, it's rather for larger screen devices, like the Hermes etc. but it doesn't bother me scrolling a little bit in one or two tabs.
Good luck,
HC
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Does it just work or did you modify any strings in the ROM? which rom by the way?
download here: http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_pro_4.0.0.90.cab
hb88xx said:
Does it just work or did you modify any strings in the ROM? which rom by the way?
download here: http://sems.org/content/download/bbc4/bbconnect_wm6_pro_4.0.0.90.cab
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Still doesn't work. I tried to install/uninstall etc. w/ same results, no connection. I am using the leaked ATT rom which otherwise works fine, no strings mods, just the rom w/o any modifications.
Hope this answers your question.
Good luck,
HC
BB Connect from HTC
Anyone have tried this ?
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Anyone have tried this ?
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Just did it, same result, no connection. I am uninstalling it right now. Too bad. Again, I think it has to do w/ the device type not the software itself. I have a 750C w/ leaked ATT rom
Anyone w/ other results ?
Thanks,
HC
Installs fine. Gives me PIN and IMEI but no IP and no connection. IT says Network Available and tries to reconnect every few mins. I'll wait for few hours before unistalling it. Sometimes Blackberry Service can take little bit longer to register on USA T-mobile provider.
mils said:
Installs fine. Gives me PIN and IMEI but no IP and no connection. IT says Network Available and tries to reconnect every few mins. I'll wait for few hours before unistalling it. Sometimes Blackberry Service can take little bit longer to register on USA T-mobile provider.
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What kind of device ? 750C or 750V etc.
Thanks,
HC
750V with Vodafone WM6.
Now it flashes with an IP for about a second.
Newbie here
I have just gotten the AT&T Tilt.
It seems to be working fine overall, however when I am trying to connect to MSN (Live) Messenger through a WiFi connection, it apparently is not allowed, as it says "cannot connect via WiFi connection)...? Is this normal? Is there ANY way to get arround this? I just don't know if I'll keep the PDA plan forever and it would be easier for me to just connect via tha WiFi wherever available.
Thanks in advance.
(I did a search already and did not see any posts regarding this so I assumed no one has this issue...or cares...?
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Newbie here
I have just gotten the AT&T Tilt.
It seems to be working fine overall, however when I am trying to connect to MSN (Live) Messenger through a WiFi connection, it apparently is not allowed, as it says "cannot connect via WiFi connection)...? Is this normal? Is there ANY way to get arround this? I just don't know if I'll keep the PDA plan forever and it would be easier for me to just connect via tha WiFi wherever available.
Thanks in advance.
(I did a search already and did not see any posts regarding this so I assumed no one has this issue...or cares...?
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I have the Kaiser (very similar to the tilt) and Messenger works just fine against WiFi. What version do you have?
I was fairly certain the AT&T ROM for the Tilt removed Live messenger.. did you download it from thread on here or something?
The att ROM did remove windows live all together. You would need to install it. I have a feeling he is trying to use the OZIM program which doesn't use data, it uses text messaging. So when you are connected to Wifi it won't connect.
hmm...actually I didn't download/install anything onto the phone yet. It is an AT&T Tilt with no mods (yet)...and when i hit "instant messaging", it has the three messenger programs as icons (AOL, MSN or Live, and Yahoo).
If I do want to install it, where can I go to get it and would that installed version also be using TXTMessaging or data?
I can't understand why so simple things cannot be resolved in the life.
I can understand that an operator can decide to don't give some feature, but for what I understood the things should be like this:
1. all UK operators like 3, vodafone, t-mobile offers access to internet for pay and go customers. O2 says not, or that a lot of mobiles do not support it.
Now. I was with polaris/touch cruise able to surf with explorer and use google maps, just problems to update the weather in the main screen. And was ok for me.
Now, I switch to Diamond, the result? i cannot surf anymore and use google maps! Now the answer should be to swith to 3, but I needed O2 and is problematic to switch. Of course I will do if I won't find a solution.
So my question is, have you found a solution to surf and use google maps with O2 payandgo even on the Diamond?
if not, I'm stupid or how is possible that in 2008 a device should be not able to connect to service of O2, I mean, how is possible that O2 says that is the device not supported or that don't support them etc etc, I mean, who is wrong here, is O2 that is doing the possible to don't give this service to us or what? if is so, nobody did something to sign a petition and ask them to do what their competitors do, even more expensively, but with every UK operator is possible to surf, why just with O2 not!!!! Payandgo.
Let me know please.
if I need to flash the ROM, change, upgrade, or whatever you want to let it work let me know.
Thank you in advance,
your disperately,
payandgo... go.. go..
I would check your setting are the same as when you had the polaris/touch cruise, other than that you really need to change operator
Usually for paygo they route the internet using a different APN. This is usually because they block certain ports.
The operators usually say 'this device isnt suported' because their automatic system isnt able to SMS the provisioning to your phone. That doesnt mean you can't edit it manually.
Just copy the connection settings from another phone where it works onto your diamond.
It sounds like the auto setup in the diamond is using some different APN or a proxy, and your old device didnt.
of course I do manual settings... cannot work with the automatic that are into the htc.
I'm waiting some angel here of the forum that can help, for sure a lot of londiners are facing same problem with O2 and have some solution.
the exact same settings work fine on which other phone?
Or are you saying it just doesnt work any more no matter what phone you use?
Htc Touch Pro was working but I lost the settings and with the one found in forums doesnt work the Diamond
so I need settings from somebody that setted already the Diamond that is new, and for sure are the same but I do not have it and I need to find so I can set it manually.
Have you tried these?
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
Both contract and paygo. Also it really would help if you gave some more information like what settings you using already.
This is my third post and i still have no idea what your exact problem is. Yeah sure you can't get GPRS working in some way, but i don't know what way, and what settings your using - and so the possible cause.
Hi All,
I have a Kaiser ROM 1.56.405.5 and Radio 1.27.16.21
I installed the BB Connect delivered on CD and checked ... it is the latest version.
I installed the BBC Desktop on PC and also checked .. it is the latest version.
My mobile operator has already activated my SIM card for BB and it is working because I have the service always connected, I got a PIN and an IP address is always available.
Now, coming to the activation, I had my IT managers who make my email BB enabled and got a password (MS Exchange).
The Blackberry Entrepise Service is activated on the BBC and everything seems working.
As I was not able to activate my email with the given password, I read in several threads that we can do it through the PC with the BBC Desktop.
I did it and it worked .... miracle!
Sending and recieving emails when connected to the PC is perfectly working.
But sending and recieving emails when standalone through wireless is impossible. My email is visible and seems activated on Kaiser BBC.
Eventhough the radio tunnel seems to be connected and active (either on EDGE or 3G), no way to have it working normally.
Question 1:
Can my mobile operator be blocking the usage of HTC on the network in order to oblige buying a BB handset?
If yes, why do I have a Radio BB Connection always active?
Question 2:
Do I need for a while before getting my email "really" activated by BB?
Is it linked to the fact that I never succeed to use the password given by my IT people?
Question 3:
Is it possible that I need to configure my GPRS connection? I read somewhere that the APN could be different and sometimes we need to chaneg the registery keys. My understand was that this is needed for older versions of BBC.
I am just trying to understand whether I have to shoot on my IT people (they will not like it because of the policy: Nothing else that BB handsets!) or to shoot on my mobile operator who can also have the same policy.
Thanks for your help.
Marko
I have always had to use the blackberry desktop to provision a blackberry connect device for bes.
Check your settings and connections. You should have a connection for blackberry.
You also should have a blackberry icon at the bottom right of your home screen. Click this and check your blackberry settings such as identity (pin, imei, ip address), status (connected), email settings, services (some of the individual services have settings which you should check).
Hi
Yes everything you said is OK
What are the settings for the services?
I have no clue.
One of them is not running: IPPP for 5 click [IPPP] !!
Thx
Marko
Is your ROM a 6.1 ROM? I can't tell by just the numbers. If it is Change registry setting (HKLM\System\Versions Aku set to .0.4.2)
Not sure why 6.1 does that but it worked for me.
Thanks to Dutty for the above instructions
my ROM ver is 1.56.405.5 Radio is 1.27.16.21
Register is OK
What should I do with the password given by my IT guys? I didn't use it.
THX
Marko
Hehe
Just found out that my ROM is WM 6.0 can it come from this ?
Thx
Marko
I used the BB Connect software on my pc, clicked configure handset and it did all the work for me, I didn't need to enter a password.
You might need to go into BB security and set a password for the handset.
Hi
I flashed a new ROM with 6.1 on my Kaiser.
BBC version .100
Radio is ok and got PIN
BBC Desktop configured my the balckberry services on Kaiser.
Even, sent and recieved email when connected to PC with BBC Desktop.
BUT ... when I am on wireles, no way to make it working.
Thx for your help.
Marko
Guys,
It was my provider. Now everything seems working even in roaming.
They put me on BIS and when I asked for BES, they proposed to me a new thing: BB Multinational.
Just be careful all, there is not only BIS and BES but also BB Multinational with some providers.
Cheers.
Marko