Hi All
Spent awhile searching the forums (and the web) but couldn't find any relevant answers -- so here goes & apologies if it has been up before...
My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
Could a few raindrops do this?
I have a Hermes/TyTN 'lying around', anyone know if the screens are the same/compatible, was about to start searching for part numbers etc. but thought I'd ask the question anyway.
Any help, answers, pointers or links would be appreciated.
TIA
You could always buy a new touch screen.
I saw one at dealextreme.com for 4.99 , probably not the best quality but you can always give it a try for that price
sku.14919
cnn.cn also has the part , but only in combo with the actual lcd screen.
Thanks RacerII -- will check it out..
Had a similar issue with the touch screen dying after an os crash the other night n thought it was dead. Did a hard reset and reflashed and everything worked just fine. Try the hard reset and reflash first before you think about any repair options
@kaalgoosy
Thanks for the reply -- did a hard reset as you suggested, no change -- about to try a reflash -- currently using L26's B1 ROM, have dl'd B4 and will give that a whirl -- only problem seems to be I have to bypass the Welcome/Screen Alignment section (no touchscreen!) and Activesync seems to be lacking/missing/not working -- so can only try the SD method -- just reading up on that now
ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...
no few drops of rain wont cause that damage...
most new PDAs and new gadgets in general including cams, portable ps... etc has a elements of water resistant+shock resistant and even an anti-magnetic field absorbtion (or something like) to reduce interference with other devices...
blackfoot said:
My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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there must be another reason cuz first sign of water damage will be blurry display..
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the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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get your phone inspected by a professional technician especially if under warranty (dont tell them it was affected by rain drops.. they wont know) it might not be a very fair thing to say but again who said life is fair
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ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...
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Have you got a web address for the London supplier? I think my screen may be on the way out.
Good luck with the replacement.
@jahrami -- was using the Kaiser's camera to take some photos for my daughter, it started raining while I was taking the last couple. 15-20 drops or so (as I said). Dabbed this off with kitchen roll, put the phone away. Got home a little later, tried to use the phone, no touch -- played around, soft reset etc etc, but nothing.
The rain is the only thing that has happened to it -- the display is perfect, phone itself works perfectly, have hard-reset, reflashed ROM, still no touch control... and while in theory I agree with you that a few drops of rain _shouldn't_ cause this sort of damage, it seems it has. Checked the water damage strip behind the battery, it's white, assume this goes pink/blue or WHY when exposed to real amounts of water.
Sadly, warranty is out (by 1 month) & the local phone shops want £40 to strip it and look... £32 for a screen? I'll do it myself -- if it doesn't fix it, back to the Eten M700...
@ach2 -- tried to put a complete & direct link to the item, message box wouldn't accept it (very long url). This company sells on ebay too, slightly cheaper (27.99 +p&p) and under various other site names, feedback is positive and screens are new. Can't comment on the company personally, unless you wait for a week. Thanks for the good wishes, will probably need them.
http://www.sparepartsformobiles.com search for Kaiser LCD replacement.
OP:
Before you buy anything for 27 quid: Note that there are 2 elements to that screen, as was mentioned (but maybe not quite clear) in post 2. There is the actual screen, which is a liquid crystal screen with thin film transistors with a glass plate on top, but on top of that is a digitizer. The digitizer is literally 2 sheets of slightly conductive plastic put together to assess where the stylus (or your finger) is currently touching it.
The digitizer shouldn't cost you more than about 5-10 quid. The full screen is going to cost you about 30 quid. You definitely don't need a new screen.
I've replaced 2 digitizers and 1 full screen on my HTC magician (I'm very good at smashing it into things) and after I broke it again, I bought a used HTC tilt cause I felt that an upgrade was in order. I ordered the digitizers for the magician and the screens from a generic eBay store in Hong Kong, it arrived the US (Boston) after about 2 weeks, I would expect Old Blighty to be similar.
Greetings from "New" England.
lncdoc
One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.
i will agree with such a temporarily fix, use a combination of virtual mouse
and voice commander and hotkeys shortcuts to navigate through your phone
look for second hand screen, there must be some around dude
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One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.
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Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option
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@incdoc -- Greetings to you too, cousin -- yes I do realise the screen has a separate digitiser (see quote above from earlier post), and in fact, the same supplier has digitisers for £8 but after reading about the difficulties of separating the digitiser from the LCD thought I would save time, effort and money by replacing the LCD in its entirety. I can always play with the older one afterwards, and if I successfully split them will get a touch screen and keep the thing as a spare, which seems like a good idea, as there are now several more posts regarding the same or similar issues to mine, just within the last few days.
Are you suggesting that separation _isn't_ difficult?
@EGMine -- have to say that I haven't heard of VirtuaMouse One-Hand, will look it up -- thanks for the suggestion.
Jahrami -- thanks for the suggestion, about to check VirtuaMouse and completely forgot about Voice Commander, just changed my ROM to L26's B4, (after fault developed) so haven't set the phone up, yet -- but definitely will set up some voice tags.
Big thank you (for telling me something I should have thought of myself -- age really is a bummer!)
Edit** Dl'd trial of VirtuaMouse, good idea -- hard work! Combination of Voice Tags and scroll wheel much better. Eten M700 back in cupboard. ;-))
Dammit, dammit and dammit!
In the interest of rounding things off -- thought I'd post this to (almost) end my (little) epic.
Bought a replacement screen from the source listed above, £32, web price was lower with free shipping, but phoned the order through to get a quicker delivery. Arrived the next day, exactly as ordered. (Bravo!) No tools included, but I have some anyway.
Used Mike Channons guide to replacement (no mention of the sticky keyboard hinge 'finisher' anywhere BTW), all went as planned. Total time to replace about 1hr 15mins. (Not rushing)
Screen kicked in, onto alignment and yippee! -- touch working again!
Knew I shouldn't have had that celebratory cup of tea! -- put SIM in, followed by SD card, phone no longer recognises the SIM. Bu**er!
Stripped the phone again (impressed myself, took less than 10 minutes), checked to see if the SIM ribbon had popped off -- seemed ok, but popped it and reseated it anyway. Reassembled the phone, popped in the SIM -- Bu**er again.
Stripped the phone again (4 minutes -- not bad eh?), checked the SIM connection to the keypad PCB and 2 of the contacts in the socket look slightly mangled.
At this point now I'm wishing I'd gone for the £70 repair option, it's 20 to 1 in the morning (12:40 am to you), the eyes are a little fuzzy and I (once again) have a TyTNII 'kit' in front of me.
Oh well, there's always tomorrow -- now where did I put my Eten M700?
EDIT** Forgot to add a request, if anyone has a TyTNII in bits and wants to sell the keypad PCB, leave info or PM. Thanks.
EDIT 2** Oh well, seems like I _have_ kiboshed the SIM socket on the keypad PCB -- so hoping someone has one (keypad PCB or TyTNII) lying around will sell for bits?
Hello, moving from trusty dash/excalibur - doa over weekend - to either kaiser/att tilt or fuze. Going to buy from 3rd party off craigslist - please clue me in as to what to watch out for, problems with phone not obvious, esn issues, etc., going in a couple of hours.
Thanks very much as I am clueless on these phones.
For kaiser, make sure the tilt aspect of the device holds. My first one got really weak that when you'd tilt the screen up it'd fall right back down.
For both, kaiser and raphael, slide it open and close a couple times and watch out if its smooth or not. Theres a ribbon cable that connects the top half of the device to the bottom half, if you hold the device up to a light while sliding it you and sometimes make it out (look between the screen and kb). Look at the edes of this and see if they're freyed at all. If so stay away.
Also the obvious, check for physical damage, take off the battery cover and battery and look at the heads of the screws and see if they've been messed with. They should be black and will show silver if they've been scratched (i.e. opened up with a screw driver).
Look for the warranty sticker, if its not there, stay away. On the kaiser if you take off the battery cover it'd be the hole thats on the top right. There should be a sticher in there that says void in white.
press every button and make sure it works. Open up new note to test the keyboard.
when you take out the battery, look for a white kind of fluffy sticker. If its blue that means the phones been subject to moisture/water.
I'd say thats about it, don't worry if the device runs slow or any of the software part of the device because that can all be flashed and customized.
last note, i'd go with the raphael over the kaiser.
good luck and enjoy your new device.
i bought a htc hd7 in january this year from a tech mall in hong kong. im now in perth australia and the hd7 is not available here yet.
anyway the phone was great right up until one of my friends dropped/threw my phone into the ground with a decent amount of force. at first i was happy to see that there was no damge to the phone on the outside, the screen wasnt cracked and the casing was fine. the touch screen still worked fine but now there are these lines everywhere. all over the screen. on the right side, there is a strip of just black. im assuming that bit of the screen is completely dead. it gets rid of the last number and continues like that all down the screen. there is also a ugly shade of grey that has the shape of a backwards "l" around the bottom right corner. the only way i can use my phone without these lines is if i set the theme to white, but even then it is extremely dull and greyish. when the theme is on black, everything that is coloured white, such as text or images sends the lines all the way down the screen, perfectly aligned with the white text or image all the way down the screen.
im a little unsure if this is the screen or something more internal. most importantly how/where can i get this fixed?
thanks
video showing the problem
http :// www . you tube . com / watch ?v=dSzh_vJB-cE
(remove "spaces")
You need a new LCD, search Ebay for one & google for an instruction video.
LCD Replacement on Ebay for $50.00.
Tool Kit Needed to Replace LCD on Ebay for $2.00.
Can't find a Video, but here's a thread with info on how to replace the screen
do you think if i bought the parts and took it to a phone repair shop they would fix it?
I would call the repair place first to see if they'd use the parts you supply & if it'd be any cheaper than just having them use their parts.
I'd say try to find someone in your area who has done screen replacements before who do it for you for a small fee. I've done a few of them, it's not that hard. I've replaced them on the HTC Kaiser & Excalibur. The HD7 should be easier to do as it doesn't have a keyboard.
NOTE: This will void your warranty, so you may want to upgrade the SD Card at the same time if you want 32GB of storage.
well if my phone is covered by warranty then wouldnt htc replace it?
No, warranty doesn't cover damage caused by the user or this case, user's friend. You'd have to of paid for the accidental damage insurance for them to replace it.
Hello,
I have a busted galaxy s (memory card corrupted).. now i can get another one with a broken screen for a cheap price.. my question is, can i just replace the motherboard part where the MC is located, or must i replace the broken screen on the working one.. the screen replacement is a lot harder but i think it wont give me to much trouble.. i am wondering if the motherboard replacement will work without any IMEI or other parts of the phone conflicts.. have never done that before. If someone has, please tell me your experiences.
Both phones waranties are useles and tryed already. They are both unlocked euro phones gt i9000.
Thanks.
G. Lukic
The NAND flash is located on the mainboard which is separate from the screen.
You don't need to touch the display with its electronics - there are some display controllers.
Just change the mainboard and that's all
Thank you i thought so too. i had already put my phone apart 3 times, just to see if by some miracle nand would start working again stupid i know, but i was quite desparate..
hi does anybody know where can i find a mainboard for i9000 i googled with no result. i have my screen been replaced. now there are a few grey horizontal lines on it. the strange thing that they dissapere when i plug charger and when the temperature goes up. and sho
wing back when the phone goes colder. in the lab i was told that the problem is in the connector on the main board. and there is nothing to do with it. so can anybody tell me where to find a replacement? thank you.
So basically I've had my Droid 1 since March of 2010, I LOVE my phone. Today I was out in the sun, and it just started freaking out, I put it on a table from my cool pocket for literally 4 minutes. Now two things are happening:
the soft key search button has stopped working(keyboard one still works), and the place where the back button is on my soft keyboard is borked.
Is there anything I can try/do to possibly attempt to fix the problem? I've never run into an issue like this before. :/
okay... so I gave it to my brother to look at and suddenly it's working again...
Is there anything that could cause this?
We don't really know what causes the touchscreen issue but we suspect that the moisture is the main problem. Also, a defective or improper charging or a bad flex cable can lead to something like that. I am facing exactly the same problem (paradoxally, after flashing a new ROM - coincidence maybe) but here it didn't dissappear. I will replace the digitizer. I think it's the only way to get rid of it. If it shows up again, I'm sorry!
When do you plan to change out your digitizer? If anything I'd love to see your results before I go for it.
Oh the joys of being a broke college student.
The same problem happened to my D1!! If it re-occurs then it means that your digitizer has broken. The only solution is to replace it or buy a new phone (If you do a search on "Droid" and "digitizer" you will find many people who have had this same problem)
I researched repair stores and finally settled on a place called Mission Repair in KS (missionrepair.com). Sent my precious Droid to them on a Tuesday and got it back as good as new on Friday for a cost (including Fedex) of around $90 - certainly a lot cheaper than a new phone.
Has been working fine again since.
I heard it is a common issue on the phone, you can use an application like multitouch visualizer (on the market) to check the functional parts of the screen.
The problem I have is with the keyboard, I was using the right key to pass the pages on kindle for android and now I have to press it harder, it also happened with one of the space buttons, thanks god those are 3...
Ends up I'm not entirely retarded, and got the extended warranty for 1.99 extra month. I traded it in, but the replacement has same issues. Might be time to upgrade my phone...
Try replacing Flex cable instead of digitizer.
If it's not damaged.. hold off on the digitalizer and cable replacement.. grab ya some descant packets (do not eat bags that come with new items that can't stand any moisture) ziplock it up with them.. with battery out of it.. leave it over night.. bam..
BRITT#OGDROID
Oh.. and the OG doesn't like sweaty pockets or extreme humidity.. it's definitely your problem if not damaged.. bet you're in the south..
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