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Keyboard LAG

Hi Guys,
I did some research here and on google but couldn't find any good results.
I really have a serious lag in my keyboard, more likely at the repeating characters like, hello or whoohoo ... wil be like helo whoho, ...
Is there a fix or something else. When typing emails this result in a lot of frustation. I don't know how you guys think or experience this problem!
Thnx for you comments.

it's been brought up before but might be hard to search on...
Others have reported that turning off Word Completion and Auto Correct have helped.
Settings --> Input ... Word Completion tab
Give that a shot.

I have the same problem. I've turned off input completion under settings -> input -> word completion and in programs -> xT9 Settings. But when I type the letter A, Q, O, and L it tries to auto complete. Also Z is displayed as X. I installed the AT&T Keyboard fix from TaurusBullba and nothing changed. I am using Dutty_s_hybrid_Rom_Build_18533 Final on an AT&T tilt. Thanks for the help.

I've got the same issue. I've turned off Word Completion, etc. but it didn't seem to make a difference. Guess I need to slow my thumbs down...

Yes, the lag is quite annoying at times. It seems to be less of an issue when less programs are running. But I noticed the problem is not as bad since I stopped using Windows Media Player (which I would run all the time) and started using Audio Manager.
L8

With me the lag was even bigger after I had installed the HTC Touch Keyboard cab, which also xt9. After removing it got a little better (but still there's lag)...

So i guess there is no 1 solution for this keyboard lag? I'm also faced with the same problem I can finish typing my sms about 4 to 5 words faster then it can appear on the screen.
Anybody found a solution?

It might seem irrelevant but it obviously affects any consecutive keystrokes:
Start -> Settings -> Buttons -> Up/Down Control
If you put the delay to minimum, it seems to make things a lot better.
On the contrary, the "turning off autocomplete" solution didn't work for me.
Even though I think this should help you guys as well, I'm kind of pissed off that one has to use workarounds for such an expensive device to work properly. Especially when it comes to the keyboard which is among the top 5 reasons for buying it in the first place. I'm aware of the argument that this kind of thing happens with all WM devices, but still this seems close to unacceptable for me.
All the best

dsyro said:
Even though I think this should help you guys as well, I'm kind of pissed off that one has to use workarounds for such an expensive device to work properly. Especially when it comes to the keyboard which is among the top 5 reasons for buying it in the first place. I'm aware of the argument that this kind of thing happens with all WM devices, but still this seems close to unacceptable for me.
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I totally agree, especially for a product that costs €600 or more! Nevertheless it's with all WM and HTC devices, and... has your pc never crashed or do you use a WindowsXP pc which has no tools or addons?

dsyro said:
It might seem irrelevant but it obviously affects any consecutive keystrokes:
Start -> Settings -> Buttons -> Up/Down Control
If you put the delay to minimum, it seems to make things a lot better.
On the contrary, the "turning off autocomplete" solution didn't work for me.
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This appears to have fixed it for me, thank you!

This seems to have fixed it about 90% of the time. Sometimes when typing "www." it will end up ww. but that is only part of the time.
Thanks!

Mine sped up somewhat when I did the repeat rate change, but I REALLY noticed a difference when I removed the 3G dial pad and rebooted, seems everything is running faster now, but knowing my luck its a tease and it'll just go back to normal

dsyro said:
It might seem irrelevant but it obviously affects any consecutive keystrokes:
Start -> Settings -> Buttons -> Up/Down Control
If you put the delay to minimum, it seems to make things a lot better.
On the contrary, the "turning off autocomplete" solution didn't work for me.
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Very odd, but it works for me. Thanks for the tip!

Up/Down control setting change worked for me too. Now the only problem is I actually get 3 letters sometimes!

Axman said:
Up/Down control setting change worked for me too. Now the only problem is I actually get 3 letters sometimes!
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Maybe decrease the key repeat rate?

SWEET
the up down to a minimum seems t work for me. any suggestions as to which screen keyboard is better to use then the one in the rom my thumbs are to fat and its hard to use the keyboard when im driving. I knwo tis not safe but everyone does it. i guess it would be safer If my kaiser had bigger screen buttons for ppl with chubby fingers. LOL
thanks in advance.
juanitto

Hi Juanito,
Don't think it's your chubby fingers - we all suffer from it. I've heard people talk about the PCMKeyboard. On the last Roms i've tried, it didn't work, not sure why. I am currently running a ROM that has the Diamond keyboard, which I like too. The only thing I have to get used to is that it has two keys on each button (similar to for instance Nokia) but it is QWERTY (see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2199341&postcount=15)...
Regards,
Nika.

I do also have the same problems with the whole touchscrenn input.
after some time working around, somehow all inputs have a delay. so for example when I am trying to close a program, the X (to close Prg) animates to be pushed half a second after I clicked on it...
or when I am trying to switch between tabs, it seems as the cpu is hanging somewhere around 100% and you have to repeat your input more times or try to push harder on the screen etc... until the inputs has been accepted.
is that a known issue? its very annoying...
only thing that helps is to softreset the device... but after some minutes the effect starts again...

to dr-house: your problem might be related to the 'htc task manager', especially versions 2 and higher. Disable it's auto start-up and see if you see any improvements.

how do u disable the taskmanger on startup and do the 3G txt thing??

Slow clock?

I got a Tilt with HTC wm6.1 rom and the clocks reaction time to the screen turning on is slow. Like, I turn on the screen and it shows the last time i checked, and takes about .5 - 1 second to show the correct current time. I know that doesnt seem slow but i like to check the time fast by turning the screen on and off. I searched the forums but couldnt find anything on it, or maybe im blind.
It even did this when i used the HTC home on the att wm6 rom.
Is there a fix for this? or is it an issue related with the slow GPU?

I have it. I also wait for the time its not an anoyance, just dont be so impatient

starclassic said:
I got a Tilt with HTC wm6.1 rom and the clocks reaction time to the screen turning on is slow. Like, I turn on the screen and it shows the last time i checked, and takes about .5 - 1 second to show the correct current time. I know that doesnt seem slow but i like to check the time fast by turning the screen on and off. I searched the forums but couldnt find anything on it, or maybe im blind.
It even did this when i used the HTC home on the att wm6 rom.
Is there a fix for this? or is it an issue related with the slow GPU?
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Im not exactly sure what clock you are refering to, but the reactiontime overal can be app. related. Meaning you have installed something that slows down youre system. Do a pim or full spb backup and hard reset and see if its still laggy. If its okey restore youre sms, contacts and so on you backed whit pim and start installing every app you want one by one soft reseting and test every time. That way you can short down to the application/software/program that slows youre device/clock down.

the htc home digital clock
<img src="http://freewarepocketpc.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/baselsmsgpainter1.gif">
it was even slow when i first flashed the rom, fresh and new.
lol, yeah i guess i gotta wait .5 seconds more. hahaha

yes its slow
its slow for me too,
using a tytn II radio 1.65.17.56 with 6.1 official and the clock runs slow.
Its gets slower around 4-5 minutes within 4-5 days.
Cant reslove.

annoys me too. Turn the phone on, it displays the time from whenever i last looked. Have to wait a split second, which sounds silly, but it shouln't have to refresh like that!
I think it's all part of the same slow refresh problems on this phone.

When the phone is off its processor isn't running. When you turn it on, the OS will first have to do a short initialization, then will send a signal to each running program to tell it it has just woken up. The clock app will respond to that by fetching the current time and displaying it, which will take a split second. The time may well depend on the number of running apps as each is sent the signal in turn and will take some time to do its related task. If there are 10 apps before the clock one gets notified it will be longer.
Doesn't bother me at all, it's not nearly as annoying than on the Hermes where the screen itself would take that 0.5-1s to turn on after a press on the power button...

SMS Message "Lag"? :/

Ive not tried searching for this problem, seems abit of an awkward thing to search so please dont shoot me
I've noticed for awhile now some times when im typing a text msg it'll work fine..... then it suddenly misses letters/key presses etc so my text message ends up
"Hey mate, how re yu oing?"... esspecially on words like "Little" i end up with "Litle" etc.
But going into Word / notepad etc it types no problems & other times i can do an SMS session with no problems then it'll suddenly act up, any idea why its doing this?
Im only using the kaisers default SMS program, maybe i should be using something abit better?

search for clear type in this forum you'll find your answer.

Ahh thanks, went to disable clear type ... damn things already disabled
*scratches head in confussion*
well ive enabled it, maybe that'll help lol

Blank2k2 said:
Ahh thanks, went to disable clear type ... damn things already disabled
*scratches head in confussion*
well ive enabled it, maybe that'll help lol
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I haven't had any recent issues even with clear type enabled. A while back I did but now all is fine. My device appears to act funny at times. Just recently I lost all sound for almost 3 days, which was not a rom/radio compatibility issue.

redbandana said:
I haven't had any recent issues even with clear type enabled. A while back I did but now all is fine. My device appears to act funny at times. Just recently I lost all sound for almost 3 days, which was not a rom/radio compatibility issue.
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Funny mine had just done this too, lost all sound for 2 days....

redbandana said:
I haven't had any recent issues even with clear type enabled. A while back I did but now all is fine. My device appears to act funny at times. Just recently I lost all sound for almost 3 days, which was not a rom/radio compatibility issue.
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mine does weird things aswell, i use alarms alot... anyway i flashed my phone (so date was reset), my alarms werent going off, couldnt figure out why.
then relised the year was off & set the year correctly then the alarms started working, no idea what caused it to rely on the date.
now i think about it i guess "Monday 8am" would of been day differant day in 2005.... oki problem solved.
not very often that happens

Okay boys, here is the answer. There are two different functions you will have to modify. They are both under Settings>Buttons>Up Down Control.
Cleartype is only used for smoothing edges and has no affect on typing... btw.
Two different functions you will have to change are Lower the delay before first report to short, (far left) and Repeat rate to the slower side.
That helps on the lag issue you have been experiencing.
The second thing you should try is to disable predictive text.
Settings>Inputs>Word Completion
Try turning it off it helps a lot of people.
Have you flashed your rom or are you using the ATT one?
If you use the ATT one these problems will help, but the interface is still slow due to the bloatware on the phone. If you use a cooked rom the first thing should help as well as the second however, I am running a cooked rom L9 (laurentius) with no problems and I rarely miss type.
I have noticed one issue with my keyboard though that I cannot figure out and do not like, pressing the space bar and a number or letter before or after, the spacebar trumps the other buttons and many times I just see the space and no letter or number that I typed in close time proximity to the thing I was entering. Hope this helped.

Clock madness!

I'm getting really irritated at the clock doing that crazy catch-up thing when the Diamond has been in standby for a while. I hate having to wait for the clock to flick to the right time, especially when I need a quick time check...
Does everyone get this or is it ROM specific? Is there a fix?
I use Swift's v.7 rom.

Duttys ROM

You're saying Dutty's ROM fixes this?

Oh come on fellas! This must annoy you too...

i haven't had it on Dutty's ROM, though i had it on Panosha

simcarloc said:
You're saying Dutty's ROM fixes this?
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hmm
can u tell us how long it takes on ur rom ?
on my it takes aprox. 0,5 s
on Stock ROM takes 1-2sec
butt i noticed on stock rom...when i added call history tab...it took woow...30 sec or so...so i dont use call history tab in manila

It takes around 15-20 seconds...
I don't have a call history tab though.

My Diamond has started doing something similar the past 2 days. When I push the power button to bring up the screen, the clock says the last time the screen was up, then switches to current time. A bit strange. I'm using the stock Spring ROM. Any ideas?

I've had it on most roms. Its bloody anoying! And it comes and goes.

Mine takes easily little than half a second.

I saw something wired with clock, after midnight, lets say
00:40 , it start jump 1 by 1 till it arrive to 40, somehting
like 30-40 jumps (about 20 sec, every jump ~ 0.5 sec)
did u notice to this problem/effect ?

@arix, yep mine has done that before after midnight, I thought I was just really drunk the first time it happened lol.
Haven't had the problem for some time though.

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You're saying Dutty's ROM fixes this?
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Dunno what he is saying, but I can say Dutty's Roms does not fix it. At least not for me. I had to wait about 15/20 seconds when I woke my phone this morning, for the time to scroll forward about 50 minutes. Very nice to look at but a pain in the backside if all you want to do is check the time. Worst I'd ever seen it. Usually it takes only second or two.

xavierdemon said:
@arix, yep mine has done that before after midnight, I thought I was just really drunk the first time it happened lol.
Haven't had the problem for some time though.
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Well, as usual after midnight i m drunk, but I didn't know the Diamnond drunk too

Well these are more of work-around solutions:
1. I use S2U2 and then when you wake up your diamond after sleep you get the S2U2 unlock screen first. It has a clock. So, I always get the right time immediatly.
2. There are a lot of different clocks to install in the theme section too, I bet not all of those have the same problem, especially not the analogue ones.
3. Just an idea, but what happens if you minimize the clock (eg. swipe up) during this behavior?
Hope this helps

Delayed Notifications in Cooked ROMS..

Hello,
I've been having a problem with a few of the custom builds (Timor, AthineOS, CellPro Evo), and one problem I've noticed with each of the ones I've used is that when I get a text it doesn't notify until I wake the screen back up. Once I do that it vibrates and rings, but its up 30min after I got the text. Is this a known problem with a fix or am I better off sticking with a stock ROM?
Thank You

Funny you mention this, because I'm having the same problem. I thought it may have been a tweak I'd done and was going to do a hard reset today.
The only cab I've installed is Microsoft MyPhone. And had to edit the reg to allow the changing of the notification light timing in the Sounds & Notifications settings.

Do you know if this happens before you've made any changes to settings or installed any software on the phone? I don't recall having any problems like that myself with Timor installed, but I'm also not sure I received a text in that time. I haven't tried the other ROMs you listed.

It seemed to happen after I edited the reg settings.
Doesn't seem to be a constant occurance though. I happened to me 12 hours ago, even after a soft reset. But now I just sent a test message to myself, and all is ok... weird

Well I've regularly installed My Phone, Marketplace, Bing, Groovefish, and MP3 Trimmer, but I'd rather not delete and hard reset everything to do a test if someone knows a fix

I haven't had this issue...I am using the Valkrie Firestorm 5 and even when my phone is sleeping my phone vibrates as I get SMS messages and emails...

Well I have hard reset and held off installing using the My Phone. Everything seems well with recieving on time...but now the screen turns on everytime i get a message. It didn't used to do that and I find it quite annoying..I looked around my settings and Advanced Config and couldn't find anything.

It happens in the stock HTC rom too.
It normally doesn't happen if you come out of the text messages and go back to the home screen after you reply to someone. It's a really annoying bug

Me too...
I thought it was the result of all the hacking, tweaking and breaking I've been doing on this flash since I've been using it as a "scratch pad" but the problem you are all describing sounds identical.
I will also second the Home screen suggestion. Hit 'End' after you are done messing with the phone to go back to the Home screen. There is definitely a notification bug related to not alarming/vibrating when not on Home screen.
Though I have observed this issue, this does not completely explain my problems. Sometimes I don't actually even receive the SMS or MMS until the next day or after rebooting my phone! Most of the time it's fine though. I'm going to do a clean flash and see if that gets rid of that issue.

Same Here
I have run across the same problem with a number of the cooked ROMs. I never really noticed the problem with the stock ROM though. In my experience some of the cooked ROMs are having a problem handling the text messaging. I have over 3000 text msgs in my backup and as soon as I try to view an older text, the systems tend to lag and freeze up to the point that I need to soft-reset. Im using Athine right now and so far it has handled the text msging just fine without freeze or lag, but it also seems to have the same notification delay bug that the other ROMs have.

dwarf said:
It happens in the stock HTC rom too.
It normally doesn't happen if you come out of the text messages and go back to the home screen after you reply to someone. It's a really annoying bug
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Yeah I'm familiar with that bug. But I go back to the home screen 99% of the time then shut the screen. I'll get a message and the LED will start blinking, but only when I turn the screen back on will it ring and vibrate.

Same problem here with the cell pro rom

ftmoe said:
Hello,
I've been having a problem with a few of the custom builds (Timor, AthineOS, CellPro Evo), and one problem I've noticed with each of the ones I've used is that when I get a text it doesn't notify until I wake the screen back up. Once I do that it vibrates and rings, but its up 30min after I got the text. Is this a known problem with a fix or am I better off sticking with a stock ROM?
Thank You
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I have the problem with almost all of the ROM. Does anyone know if it could be a result of not using the right radio?

I could be wrong.. but I don't think it has anything to do with the radio. There doesn't seem to be any problem is receiving the message from the carrier, it's more-so the OS not notifying. This has only happened to me since trying the new WM 6.5.5 builds with Sense 2.5. Previous to these builds I have never had any issues, and only used EnergyROM with a COM2 build, and Sense 2.1

nackas said:
I could be wrong.. but I don't think it has anything to do with the radio. There doesn't seem to be any problem is receiving the message from the carrier, it's more-so the OS not notifying. This has only happened to me since trying the new WM 6.5.5 builds with Sense 2.5. Previous to these builds I have never had any issues, and only used EnergyROM with a COM2 build, and Sense 2.1
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Im not sure about all the technical stuff your talking about...I just know that on almost every ROM I flash, when the phone goes to sleep, they seem to not do anything. Its only when I wake it up do I receive text messages, notifications and the weather doesnt update on its own in the prescribed time its supposed to according to the settings I have selected.

The radio version may affect the quality of your reception. So if you have no reception then that will obviously delay texts getting through, and stop you being able to get to the weather servers. But I can't see why it should have anything to do with delayed notification of texts that are already on your phone.
I realise this might not help you much, but on my EnergyROM (see my signature for full details), my phone gets texts fine when it's asleep.
The weather isn't designed to get automatically updated when your phone is asleep though. There was a recent thread on how to change the registry to make it do so, if you haven't done that then your weather stuff may well be acting correctly.

steviewevie said:
The radio version may affect the quality of your reception. So if you have no reception then that will obviously delay texts getting through, and stop you being able to get to the weather servers. But I can't see why it should have anything to do with delayed notification of texts that are already on your phone.
I realise this might not help you much, but on my EnergyROM (see my signature for full details), my phone gets texts fine when it's asleep.
The weather isn't designed to get automatically updated when your phone is asleep though. There was a recent thread on how to change the registry to make it do so, if you haven't done that then your weather stuff may well be acting correctly.
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Awesome...thank you so much for the information and help

This is the thread about getting weather to update automatically - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585373

WHY DONT YOU JUST USE A ENERGYROM????? I dont have any issues with those roms and i just updated to the .88 radio. no issues as of yet.