If so, could you let us know how the WIFI and phone perform?
Thanks
AT&T isn't big this side of the pond, AFAIK.
I do own an unbranded kaiser, and everything is fine, wifi and phone-wise.
Thank you.
How did you purchase it?
Is it possible to do so without being an AT&T customer?
I don't think AT&T are in Europe so you either buy the original HTC TyTN II without a contract or get the branded devices on T-Mobile etc.
Try Mobile Planet / Expansys:
http://www.mobileplanet.com/
Can't, I need a PPC without cameras
Due to corporate policy.
do you have to poke your eyes out, too ?
as i understand it, ATT sells a de-featured kaiser in US ?
Sorry I didn't realise there was a version with no camera!
You won't get an AT&T one in Europe I'm afraid
Something like that...
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do you have to poke your eyes out, too ?
as i understand it, ATT sells a de-featured kaiser in US ?
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Yes, they do. But AFAIK the only feature missing is the cameras.
In addition, I understand that AT&T have pre-loaded all sort of demo apps etc to ROM, which lower the amount of free memory, but I assume this is solved by installing the regular Kaiser ROM or any other cooked ROM.
I don't have any experience in this, so I'm slowly going over the many excellent posts here.
When at&t released the 8525 we also had a 8500 which was a cameraless version. Precisely why these exist in this context, I can't say. The Tilt's internal designation is the 8925 and I now see that an 8900 is available for order from our internal equipment catalog. I can see if I can get my hands on one for you if you like?
That would be very helpful.
What is the cost?
Thanks!
sorry if this has already been mentioned, but it looks like the kaiser will come to t-mo usa! Check this FCC document out: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=794476&native_or_pdf=pdf
Also, look at this Boy Genius Report:http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/09/18/htc-kaiser-coming-to-t-mobile-usa/
Does anyone know any more info about this?
Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
IIRC, the only difference really between the Tilt and the Kaiser, is that the Kaiser contains a frontside camera.
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Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
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Uh, the Tilt has the GPS and other "goodies". If you wanna add stuff later or flash a new ROM, go to an at&t store and get one.
well, I would much rather get an actual Kaiser than a Tilt. That's why I was looking for feedback from American users who have Kaiser's and where to get them through American dealers. I would much rather order it nationally, than ordering one from oversees if possible.
try amazon.... thats the only place i can really think of...
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-P4550-II-...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1202781885&sr=8-1
good luck
They only sell tilts in the U.S. Tilts are greatly cheaper than Tytn IIs. Only place you could get the phone you want in the U.S. is some black market.
Why would you want the Kaiser over the Tilt? You can't make video calls yet here in the states so the front facing cam is the only difference.
Not sure why you feel that you have to have the Kaiser. The only thing I'm missing is the front camera - which is a VGA cam meant for the video phone feature which you cannot use in the US. Played with the Kaiser before I bought the Tilt and decided the extra $500+ wasn't even close to worth it (you can find subsidized Tilts for well under $200 - got mine for $150 after rebate in early November). Obviously your decision to make, but I am not missing out on anything but the higher expense. I flash, I cook, I TomTom, I take pictures and video, I get HSDPA virtually everywhere I go.
Try AT&T Premiere and Egghead/Amazon for Tilt deals to help you compare against the Kaisers you find. FWIW.
ebay
a little surprised that there are about 5 replies and not one mentioned ebay.
wouldn't that give you the most options?
Just type "kaiser -tilt" on ebay which will ensure that no entry with tilt is shown (may also leave out some other kaisers but atleast will get you started). I did a search and 9 came up.
Good luck.
I got my Kaiser from an importer off of ebay. I was a very early adopter so I paid a lot for it, but I too wanted a real HTC Kaiser and not a ATT Tilt.
(you can find subsidized Tilts for well under $200 - got mine for $150 after rebate in early November).
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Are you meaning you can find it for $200 with a plan? Because I can't find it unlocked for less than about $350......
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Are you meaning you can find it for $200 with a plan? Because I can't find it unlocked for less than about $350......
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You don't need to buy it unlocked already. Those are scams since its free to unlock. Buy a Tilt, come here and unlock it for free. You'll need to read how when you get it. Use search too.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=151727
Never had a problem with them.
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Unless you're particularly averse to signing up for a new 2-year contract with AT&T, you can pick up a Tilt for really cheap.
Just ordered mine today for $54.99 (refurbished, w/ 2-year contract but only for the basic voice plan ~$40, using A&T coupon codes I got off the internet).
I paid $370 (including shipping) for my tilt. Bought from ebay. Then i unlocked and customized, etc.....
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You don't need to buy it unlocked already. Those are scams since its free to unlock. Buy a Tilt, come here and unlock it for free. You'll need to read how when you get it. Use search too.
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I still don't see any that are locked for cheaper than $300.....
duprade said:
Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
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Umm there's almost no difference between AT&T TIlt and Kaiser. TIlt has everything (yes, including GPS) but front-side camera (which u dont need in US, frankly).
If I were u, I'd dump T-mobile and switch to AT&T. I got a brand new (not refurb.) Tilt with 2 year contract for $150 USD. Can't beat that. Besides, I get unlimited HSDPA for $20/month (I get around 50-60 KB/sec where I work).
Got the Tilt from ebay shipped for ~$400. I asked my friend to get an unlocked code from ATT so it is free.
i agree with DarkDvr, ditch tmo, and get a tilt from at&t. i got a refurbed one for $150......the second camera is not worth that extra 400-500 imo. besides, if you really wanted that front camera........it may be possible to just plug one in, just like how some ppl were doing it with their 8525, but that all depends if the port is there on the tilt, i havent looked into that yet, so i dont know
Ive been with T-mobile for about 15 yrs.... so I don't want to just ditch tmo.
I don't know why I feel so inclined to buy an actual HTC than the AT&T Tilt... maybe it's a pride thing! Don't want my phone to have at&t all over it ... just HTC
Okay, sorry for the n00bish questions, but I've been on Sprint forever and don't really have a lot of experience with unlocked phones...
I'm planning on leaving Sprint and gettiong a Tilt. So I was watching some you tube videos of the Tilt, and I got to one that was an unbranded Kaiser (or Tytn 2, whatever). Instead of AT&T it had HTC on the top...
Anyway, it had a camera on the front for video calls, and appeared to have all the other features of the AT&T branded device.
Does anyone know if everything works on the unbranded version on AT&T? Would the video calling work? If no video calling, is there a messenger type app that would let me video chat (assuming I knew someone else that had the same app)? And the push to talk? How about the MMS? 3G data?
Any other issues I should be aware of before I buy an unlocked Kaiser?
I'm not a current AT&T customer, but I'm seriously thinking about leaving Sprint and getting a Tilt. But if the AT&T branded unit has less features than the unbranded unit, I'd rather go that route...
I was just looking around the AT&T site and noticed in the list of devices they do not show the Tilt anymore. Are They discontinuing the Tilt? Will I be offered a different Divice if I have to replace in my tilt?
Yes, AT&T has discontinued selling the Tilt so they can focus on the Fuze.
As far as a replacement, you might still get a refurbed Tilt if whoever issuing the replacements have them in stock. Seeing as how they just recently stopped selling the Tilt, I'm sure a fair amount of refurbs are still available for replacement.
But from my experience, in the case that your current phone is no longer in stock then they give you the next best thing.
AWESOME!!!!
I been wanting to get the Fuze but I just recently joined AT&T and I am not eligible for the discount and dont want to spend $500 on a phone. When I was t-mobile the same thing happened and i got a free upgrade from the mda to the wing! I wasnt sure how long it took for them to run out of the MDA though. I am probably looking at more that 2months though right?
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I was just looking around the AT&T site and noticed in the list of devices they do not show the Tilt anymore. Are They discontinuing the Tilt? Will I be offered a different Divice if I have to replace in my tilt?
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Already discussed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469665&highlight=Tilt+online