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dropped my kaiser - case and slide mechansism bork

yo
i dropped my kaiser this morning onto tarmac and buggered up the screen chassis and the sliding mechanism - anyone know where i can get these bits as replacement parts and how much they would cost?
cheers
fusi

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Go to www.cnn.cn. They have a good selection of spare parts. the entire slide mechanism is $39.95 USD. Whole new case is $79.99 USD. They are based in Hong Kong and ship all over the world. Parts show to be in stock on their website.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Use the link, it will take you to the Kaiser page on their website.
Cheers,

oh my god thankyou so much! now i just need to find some of the vario3 front buttons and ill be sorted!
cheers! you sir are made of win and legend!

yo had a look at that site - they dont look like htc oem casings to me :s the pictures show an extra button next to the power button and and back cover isnt the matt black you find on standard units - you sure theyre not cheap knock-offs?
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that pic gives you a bit of an idea - looks worse in real life, the metal front plate is buckled at the bottom of the screen and the buttons are all scraped - the side plastic housing has the silver paint ripped off it and the sliding mechanism is really loose now - i can push one side of it and itll move about 2-3mm up without the other side moving at all - i recall this being rather tight before i dropped it
im so kicking myself :'(

Yeah!! The TyTnII (and it is one you can tell by the front cam position) side thumbnail shows a COMM Manager button
It would mean the power button was in the wrong place?

It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.

RemE said:
Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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OH so good

Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe

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It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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LOL wow
glad yours survived! you lucky bugger
tbh im quite amased the damage tomine literally is only the casing - i did properly step on it with all my weight and it did slide along the tarmac *CRINGE* under my full weight (bit like a skateboard - it was really rough oldy knobly tarmac too)- lord knows how i missed cracking or scratching the screen - i reckon there was some divine intervention going on somewhere - god works in mysterious ways etc - maybe this phone is blessed
mind-bneding really is appropriate - i think i nearly lost conciousness lol

joebongo said:
Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe
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yea thats a good idea - i really need to invest in a decent case - im only using this utterly _CRAP_ belt pouch that came with my vario3 at the moment (which is significantly crappier than the htc beltpouch)

my mini usb connection is in shambles I found ppc techs online and the part is only 25 can anyone point me to a guide or step by step (im hoping its not too hard)

Is a bit of play in the keyboard slider normal?
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once? There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
Cheers,
Ashley Emery

ashmont said:
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once?
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Nothing to worry about, this is normal. If you try to slide it by pushing at the very top or bottom (one corner only) it slides in a little. You can slide it out that way, but it feels less smooth than normal. To slide it properly you'll need to push a bit closer to the centre, like you'd normally do with your thumb. This way you get a nice smooth sliding action.
ashmont said:
There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
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I think 1mm is a bit too much. Your screen may have been dislocated because of the drop... If you look closely at the surface of the touch screen you'll notice that every time you push on it with the stylus the screen surface "bends" slightly. This is normal. But if the entire screen assembly/frame moves and goes in as you push it, then it may have been damaged and become loose. Perhaps you can try another Kaiser in a local shop and compare.

[Discussion] Waterproof PVC case for the HD2

I'm on holiday at the seaside, with my (at times utterly annoying) girlfriend, and when I get to escape for a couple hours of snorkeling around the coast I miss the opportunity to record videos, and maybe a GPS track of my swimming path, other than obviously having the possibility to make and receive calls, which can be a very useful thing while being alone in the aquatic wilderness.
Anyway, I tried the banal search for "waterproof hd2" on google, and the best I came up with is a "Dry Case" container, no more than a PVC bag with a waterproof sealing, and complimentary waterproof stereo jack and a nice vacuum pump plug to make the device stay put inside the case. Cost, 40USD for two sheets of plastic and some more components of plastic yet. Since there are apparently no waterproof tight "hard cases" (and otrageously expensive at that) like the ones they make for some portable compact cameras, I thought I might as well search for supercheap chinese alternatives on ebay, and there are several alternatives of which this one looks best (or least bad) to me. None of them have a waterproof stereo jack plug (but who's going to listen to music underwater anyway, let alone talk at the phone in the same condition), nor the vacuum pump plug, which instead is a very useful addition in my opinion (yet on the other side, the PVC sheet has more strain by being repeatedly sucked against the device surface and adapting to its borders).
I know the usual reasonable arguments like "why entrusting your multihundred euros device to a couple dollars case", but after all it was HTC itself the first to sell a phone which shipped at 630euro here in italy on the release date (sums up to ~800USD), WITHOUT any lanyard hook, and I am efficiently entrusting the freefall safety of this phone to a virtually zero cost hack with a normal lanyard and some adhesive tape under the metal cover (it saved me from at least 2 falls, both at elbow -thus deadly- height).
I am going to buy such a case anyway, since a couple of euros are not going to kill my finances, and will obviously test it with a nokia 3310 first to make sure, and then with a cheap digital camera, yet I'd like to have your opinions or experiences on this matter, before I can produce them myself, as it will take at least a month before I get my case shipped from China, and maybe a year before I can actually test it in a proper seaside vacation, since this one will be over in a week, and I won't be going elsewhere sea-ish before 2011.

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The waterproof case came in today, more than 3 weeks later, but I got lucky as the standard shipping time from china to italy is 1 month.
Bottom line: TOO TIGHT!
I cannot even fit in the HD2, I pushed it as I could through the first sealing closure, but when it got to the second sealing closure it stopped, and I fear to either tear the plastic, or excercise too much strngth and have the HD2 be bulleted far away blowing to pieces.
Curious, as the description says it's 15x9cm, while even including the sealed borders, the width of the thing is 8cm.
I thought that the phone in there would have been to instable, on the contrary! Bah. Let's see in the seller will give me a refund or something, I couldn't even fit my Coolpix S52 in there.
EDIT: won by the curiosity, I pushed away, and the HD2 finally fitted inside. If it wasn't a 2 minutes long procedure each way, the tight fit would be a pro. Anyway, the transparent window thought for the camera lens is too low and partially covers the objective, so only half of the viewport is actually visible, being the other half dark. Overall, still useless, and I somewhat scratched the screen protector while forcing the way out.

Wait... How will you use your phone underwater?

Wdave said:
Wait... How will you use your phone underwater?
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the touch screen works perfectly even with the plastic on it.
The phone underwater? Isn't it cool to track your swimming path with GPS, record videos and take pictures, and be able to make emergency calls should it be needed? And tons of other stuff, too.

I'd be surprised if you get a gps fix with even a thin layer of salt water above your telephone.

you cant get GPS signal inside water, I watched a YouTube video on a waterproof Garmin device when it was put in the water, it lost all GPS satellites

hello ,
i have a otterbox 1900 , it s full waterproof and Shockproof .
i sell it with VTT support : http://htc-touch-hd.forumactif.biz/...tt-moto-otterbox-etanche-resistant-t27426.htm
the normal price for it is 120 euros , i sell it for 60 without shipping .
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Lindenia said:
I'd be surprised if you get a gps fix with even a thin layer of salt water above your telephone.
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you cant get GPS signal inside water, I watched a YouTube video on a waterproof Garmin device when it was put in the water, it lost all GPS satellites
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this changes things, as GPS was one of the main reasons to bring the phone with me while at sea. I mean, not the only one, as recording underwater videos still rocks, and GSM signal should be available underwater too (I don't do scuba, just your ordinary 4-5m occasional dives while holding my breath). Anyway, I'd be snorkeling on top on the water most of the time.
Anyway, I'll look into it more.
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hello ,
i have a otterbox 1900 , it s full waterproof and Shockproof .
i sell it with VTT support : http://htc-touch-hd.forumactif.biz/...tt-moto-otterbox-etanche-resistant-t27426.htm
the normal price for it is 120 euros , i sell it for 60 without shipping .
mail : [email protected]
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that's an interesting price indeed, even if I wouldn't be able to quite use the phone at its best with that. I am not the extreme bike-hike kind of guy, so the phone wouldn't be really in the risk of being dropped, I just would like to be able to use GSM, GPS (ok maybe not that one in light of what it's bene said here) and especially camera while underwater. Portability is not a big issue and the bulky size of the otterbox is not the matter, but I am not too sure otterbox can work up to 10mt underwater, rather than being just "splashes or 10cm waterproof", and what's more important, the back is not transparent so I woudln't be able to record videos
Would it have been otherwise, you would have found a potential buyer

With a huge delay of about 42 days, the last one of the waterproof cases I ordered arrived, it's the last one linked from the first post, and it finally keep its promises regarding the sizes, it's indeed very large, and the transparent rear window is perfect to have the HD2 record the video; you can use the phone with a protective film and the waterproof case on it, just make sure the case plastic is well adhered on the proximity sensor or it will trigger it (I have S2U2 set to turn off display on proximity active).
I will be testing the case at home leaving it underwater for some time, and after that I will probably publish a review on my website

Interested
I, too, am pursuing a similar case primarily for canoeing. I own the Otterbox Defender case which serves its purpose very well but is not waterproof. Currently, I have to move it in and out of my larger dry bag when I want to use it. I found the otterbox 1900 for $25, but it will not allow me to shoot video without removing the case. You are not the only one out there looking for a solution. I look forward to reading your results.

Thanks for stirring up this surprisingly lazy thread, I would imagine shooting videos underwater or carelessly at the seaside would be of more interest to a lot of people
Anyway I tested the second case, and DAM, water came inside
This is my test setup:
put a piece of toilet paper inside the pouch
close the pouch seals
fill a bucket with water
station the case at the bottom of the bucket with a weight on it to keep it down
wait at least 24hrs, the more the better
take out the case and check the toilet paper for moisture
The very first case stayed succesfully underwater for 3 days and no water whatsoeger came in (but it was too small for the hd2 anyway, so doesn't matter), while I decided to test the second one in harder conditions: closed the seals without folding them in and close the velcro... water almost filled the case. I was disappointed, this shouldn't have happened as the velcro is there just for conveniency and has no sealing capabilities; so I tested again, more careful to close the seals (which are somewhat harder to fit than in the first case) and then closed the velcro... stayed under for alittle more than a day, but a few drops of water came in... contacted the seller, got a refund. I bought another identical case with the promise that they will check it before shipping, chinese sellers are the best

Solution
I look forward to hearing the solution if a suitable one is found. Good luck.

I'd love a good case for canoeing as well. let us know if you find anything, and thanks for sharing so far!

I have the second case STILL on the way, anyway I checked better the first one, and it actually works :-|
I apparently asked for a refund on a working item... anyway it IS hard to make working, as the sealing lines must be thoroughly pressed and you've got to make sure there is nothing left open especially on the extremities. A simple way to check if you closed it well is to leave it slightly bulgind with air inside, and try to squeeze it, if you cannot hear air flowing out it's fine to go. In fact, after checking no air cameout, I sent it under the bucket for another test run for 2-3 days, and no water came in.
I suppose the most delicate moment is when you take the phone OUT of the case, as the water drops still hanging around the rims may wet it.
If me and my gf last long enough for me to go at hers at the beautiful seaside of southern Italy, I should be testing it snorkeling this next summer

i use some general transparent plastic bag. it does its job very well, put the hd2 in, tie the plastic up, and ready to go!!
one thing
-the touch screen don't work underwater
-there is no signal underwater
-water is very good cooler, the batt cover get cool as soon as you use the hd2 underwater

a13x4nd3r said:
i use some general transparent plastic bag. it does its job very well, put the hd2 in, tie the plastic up, and ready to go!!
one thing
-the touch screen don't work underwater
-there is no signal underwater
-water is very good cooler, the batt cover get cool as soon as you use the hd2 underwater
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heh's that's surely bold of you
I mean, that works as long as the plastic bag has no holes, I just would be scared of it being teared apart on the rocks or random garbage floating around when you're snorkeling.
Regarding the touch screen, I never tried it myself, yet the screen does work when inside the thik waterproof case I bought, and in several occasions I got to using the touchscreen with very wet fingers, effectively activating it with a thin layer of water under my skin, so well, if actually the touchscreen doesn't work underwater, that's going to be a huge problem as I need that mostly to shoot videos

ephestione said:
heh's that's surely bold of you
I mean, that works as long as the plastic bag has no holes, I just would be scared of it being teared apart on the rocks or random garbage floating around when you're snorkeling.
Regarding the touch screen, I never tried it myself, yet the screen does work when inside the thik waterproof case I bought, and in several occasions I got to using the touchscreen with very wet fingers, effectively activating it with a thin layer of water under my skin, so well, if actually the touchscreen doesn't work underwater, that's going to be a huge problem as I need that mostly to shoot videos
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just be brave and optimistic, if you are to scared you can just double or triple the plastic bag, as the plastic bag is transparent.
i havent been to beach since i have my hd2, i just try it at bathub in my home, the touch screen don't work at all, so if you want to stop recording you have to pull the phone up and press the stop button

thanks alexander, your input has been dramatically useful, really.
It's so obvious that I never actually thought of it, it's the cheapest of the solutions ever, and especially for me since my mother keeps stacking tons of transparent food plastic bags wherver she finds available space
Obviously with a simple plastic bag you don't get a re-useable case, as untightening the knot everytime makes it prone to get teared, and you don't get a lanyard because I don't see how you could attach one on a plastic bag in a satisfasctory safe manner, yet it's free VS paid, and you can't beat that

A word of warning with taking stuff in "sealed" containers into water. Those little free dives you do down 5-6 feet are one of the larger changes in pressure your container will experience so testing it in 6" water in a bath is nothing like the pressure it will experience at 6'.
Secondly, most "sealed" containers are fine at static pressures but fail when they encounter dynamic pressures such as when you jump from the back of a boat or off a jetty so be careful to make entry to the water as gently as possible unless the container is rated for depths greater than 3 atmospheres, (100')...
Yes, I'm a diver...

If you go to most large discount stores (Wal-Mart in my case)...look for a vacuum food sealer.
The kit comes with different sized bags (which can also be cut down to various sizes) and a countertop vacuum sealer unit.
Place your phone in one of the bags and cut it to size leaving a good 2" of room around each side, then just vacuum seal it. The phone works perfect and the bags are meant for freezer storage...so they are pretty thick and the unit makes an air tight seal
If you want, you can even punch a hole in one (or two) of the outside corners (outside the seal of course) and attach a string (or lanyard..shoelace..whatever) so you can wear your phone around your neck.
We have a swimming pool in our back yard and I have used my phone in the pool using these. I usually always do this to my HD2 and my wifes Vibrant when we are in the back yard with a lot of people (never know when a kid is going to go under, or a drunk friend is going to try and push you in)
I got the idea when we went to SeaWorld and saw a kiosk where they were charging people $15.00 to do this to their phones.
As the poster above me says to be a diver...im not going to argue with him at all, our pool only goes to 4-1/2 feet deep. so I would probably listen to him about the depth preasure information...but if you are just hanging out on the beach or in very shallow water, its a great way to keep your phone dry and still be able to use it.
Cheers

So the back on my Nexus 4 just shattered spontaneously...

I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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Update: Well I'm sure many would say I'm wrong and an impact caused it, but I'm reasonably certain I know when it happened. I work on robotic equipment and was doing a calibration procedure tonight when I heard an odd crack. At first I thought it was the machine, but the sound signature was wrong and repeating the procedure didn't cause it to reoccur. I was standing straight up not leaning on anything or having any pressure against that pocket when I heard the sound. It was only later when I was heading home I noticed the odd feel of the back of the phone and discovered the crack. I figure that crack sound must have been it. Shocked me, I've never had a phone crack before, I'm very careful how I handle them. Oh, and I don't wear skinny jeans - I'm build like a defensive lineman, so relaxed fit all the way.
Some people have suggested sending the phone to LG, but they don't have any advance replacement program, and I can't afford to go without my phone for 2 weeks just to get a repair estimate. Got my Diztronic TPU case on order, frankly this is the first phone in years I haven't used one of their cases on, my mistake for thinking the phone would be well built enough that the official case would do the job. I will have to look and see if my credit card has any extended warranty program thing though.
Update 2- So it looks like the damage might be covered under my credit card purchase assurance plan, I have to get an itemized repair estimate to complete the claim though. Hopefully a local place can give me that, like heck if I'm going to send the phone to LG for 2 weeks just for that. Frankly the cost of being without a good phone for that period is worth more to me than the cost of the repair, I'd rather just wait till the part becomes available and pay for it myself. It sounds like they also do replacements if repair isn't feasible due to parts not available, etc. Although the phone isn't currently available either, so we'll see how that goes.
On another note I spoke to one of my friends last night who works for a cell carrier that has many Nexus 4s on their network. She said that 3 employees at the location she works also had cracks on their Nexus 4's in almost the exact same spot. She didn't say they were spontaneous, but clearly it is a weak area on the back of the phone. At least one of them was using a full coverage case when it broke, apparently a TPU case. Alas as regretful the thought of covering such a nice looking back panel is, those who don't have broken backs yet may want to invest in high-impact cases, simple TPU or the bumper doesn't look to be cutting it. Since mine is already broken, TPU should be good enough I suppose, mainly just want to cover up the damage.

wot that really sucks. and yah.. the speaker and the camera are the soft spots. the really bad thing is the back has a lot to it. i dont see them as being cheap. some guy managed to get a couple from lg.

wow, amazing, that looks JUST like what I would expect from impact...

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wow, amazing, that looks JUST like what I would expect from impact...
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This happened to a guy who went to the movie theater a few weeks back. Same exact place on the phone.

Wow ...
If you search the forums there was one guy with the exact some thing... claimed he treated the phone very well and then for no reason all the glass smashed around the speaker like that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999345&highlight=cracked+glass
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I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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Obviously impact. Nice try though. Next.
I voided my warranty.

Looks like the crack propagated from the picture's top right "corner" of the speaker opening. Assuming that it is not the result of an impact as you say, the radius of the cut out could be too tight to account for flexing of the phone.

OgremustCrush said:
I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously.
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Uh, pretty sure official bumpers aren't meant to protect that. it's meant to make the phone land on its bumper edges. Not protect the phone's back or front. Only protection for that would be having your device to never touch the surface.

Not sure people should be so quick to assume it's always the result of mistreatment. The phone has problems with the glue, the glass is thin, if it separates even marginally from the back of the phone, that's enough to open the door up for cracking your glass with ease.

happened to a friend of mine as well..not as bad as this but it is happening to a lot of people

Well I'm sure many would say I'm wrong and an impact caused it, but I'm reasonably certain I know when it happened. I work on robotic equipment and was doing a calibration procedure tonight when I heard an odd crack. At first I thought it was the machine, but the sound signature was wrong and repeating the procedure didn't cause it to reoccur. I was standing straight up not leaning on anything or having any pressure against that pocket when I heard the sound. It was only later when I was heading home I noticed the odd feel of the back of the phone and discovered the crack. I figure that crack sound must have been it. Shocked me, I've never had a phone crack before, I'm very careful how I handle them.

Man that sucks. Also recall another user that had the same shattering. Assume you ate going to give Google a call? Did the other guy get a replacement for his phone?

OgremustCrush said:
I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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This guy has an OEM back covers, you can replace it if you want, shouldn't be too expensive.

zephiK said:
Uh, pretty sure official bumpers aren't meant to protect that. it's meant to make the phone land on its bumper edges. Not protect the phone's back or front. Only protection for that would be having your device to never touch the surface.
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Well somewhat, a bumper still protects the back by distributing an impact along the edges of the phone as long as it is from a source wide enough it does not point through that perimeter. Drop a phone with a bumper 4 feet onto a flat surface vs one without, odds are the bumper will save the first phone. As I was not whacking my pocket against sharp edges, I don't see how having a bumper vs a full case would make a difference here.

This is reminding me of a time when the back window on a what was a virtually brand new Fiat Cinquecento shattered whilst parked in my drive. Fiat replaced it under warranty as these things happen from time to time. It was a hot day, and the glass ran out of room to expand (and the seal was not fitted properly), and it just shattered, I'm wondering if the glass expands at a different rate to the rest of the phone back, when it gets warm. If this is the case, then this problem will become very common.

Point of impact.
Case closed.
Too bad it happened buddy.

Maybe a jean snap put pressure on it in a specific spot? Really unfortunate :crying:

richteralan said:
Point of impact.
Case closed.
Too bad it happened buddy.
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It that's a point of impact, it's exceedingly small, like tip of pen small.

Glass back meeeeeeeeh :silly:

Another guy wearing skinny jeans messing up his phone? j/k
I would be fairly pissed off if this happened to me, that and I'm sure 99% would just think I'm full of it.

Back Cracked 5 inch fall :(

Ok, So I loved my nexus 4. I loved it so much I even bought a second one just to have for the hell of it. The last 5 monthes I have been boasting to friends and family how great this $349 phone was. That was until this morning.
I was on my back underneath my Jeep trying to hunt down a small coolant leak. The nexus sliped out of my pocket and landed on the driveway.
Since I was on my back. The distance from my front pant pocket, to the ground. Cant be any more then 5 inches. I heard it fall and I cringed. I knew for sure it was going to at least put a small scratch or scuff in my beloved phone. I picked it up to examine the damage and to my surprise the whole back was cracked.
Seriously how the hell can that have happend from such a low fall? What the hell google!
So I called google hoping they might take it in as a warranty fix. Well I got the no sorry we cant help answer I knew was coming.
Next I was on the phone with LG. LG also said no. If it's cracked it's not covered. However they will fix it for a fee. I wont know how much until they see it first.
So now I'm using my other nexus 4. However I'm not so stoked about using the nexus 4 anymore.
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Re: Back Cracked 5 inch fall WTF!
Because YOU dropped your phone knowing its glass and will obviously be delicate you now hate the N4? Makes perfect sense...take all your rage out on the phone.
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Hey come on now! A cell phone should not break from falling 5 inches.

Get a new back on eBay and replace it yourself. Also, stop complaining; it's made of glass, not unobtainium.

This is inaccurate and you need to tell the truth about how it fell and how far not make up stories. First, your front pockets should be generally in the front, meaning if the phone did fall out of your pocket, it would have slid down your leg, around the curve of your thigh and landed most likely on the side. Second, we see a clear point of impact on this crack which is done by a focused blow to one area not a blow over the entire phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXR2iznbeg
You clearly hit this against something.

Thaanks for the laugh

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This is inaccurate and you need to tell the truth about how it fell and how far not make up stories. First, your front pockets should be generally in the front, meaning if the phone did fall out of your pocket, it would have slid down your leg, around the curve of your thigh and landed most likely on the side. Second, we see a clear point of impact on this crack which is done by a focused blow to one area not a blow over the entire phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXR2iznbeg
You clearly hit this against something.
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Alright Sherlock coming out of nowhere calling people liars ...
His scenario makes perfect sense. Driveways are usually not flat surfaces so it could easily have hit a little pebble or micro bump on the driveway and caused such a crack.
I dropped mine on asphalt and it looks like someone tried to hammer a nail into the glass.
Guys that work on their own jeeps don't make sh*t up like this. haha. '79 CJ7 owner.

WHAT?!?! You mean a phone made with a glass back breaks on impact??? I'm shocked. I thought rainbows and unicorns would come out.

irishrally said:
Alright Sherlock coming out of nowhere calling people liars ...
His scenario makes perfect sense. Driveways are usually not flat surfaces so it could easily have hit a little pebble or micro bump on the driveway and caused such a crack.
I dropped mine on asphalt and it looks like someone tried to hammer a nail into the glass.
Guys that work on their own jeeps don't make sh*t up like this. haha. '79 CJ7 owner.
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You dropped your phone on your driveway from 5 inches too? He also never said where he was, if he is under his jeep he is probably in his garage like normal people. I am not coming out of nowhere, the story doesn't make a lick of sense no matter how you add it up. How did a guy who is working on his jeep have his phone slip out of his front pocket? What sort of jeep owner wears super baggy pants? Most blue jeans have tight enough pockets that this isn't an issue. But hey, feel free to believe what you want.

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You dropped your phone on your driveway from 5 inches too? He also never said where he was, if he is under his jeep he is probably in his garage like normal people. I am not coming out of nowhere, the story doesn't make a lick of sense no matter how you add it up. How did a guy who is working on his jeep have his phone slip out of his front pocket? What sort of jeep owner wears super baggy pants? Most blue jeans have tight enough pockets that this isn't an issue. But hey, feel free to believe what you want.
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With no case the N4 is darn slippery and slipping out of any pocket is quite plausible.
I have no stance on the matter for the record.
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phitch said:
You dropped your phone on your driveway from 5 inches too? He also never said where he was, if he is under his jeep he is probably in his garage like normal people. I am not coming out of nowhere, the story doesn't make a lick of sense no matter how you add it up. How did a guy who is working on his jeep have his phone slip out of his front pocket? What sort of jeep owner wears super baggy pants? Most blue jeans have tight enough pockets that this isn't an issue. But hey, feel free to believe what you want.
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Concrete garage floors are not perfectly flat surfaces either especially when they tend not to be entirely clean and free of debris.
You are completely talking out of your ass and making no sense. Quit while you're waaay behind.
The height from which I dropped my phone is irrelevant, just providing some data on a phone falling on a surface perceived to be flat resulting in a crack that looks like it was caused by a single point impact. I thought that was clear.

Analogy - Nexus 4 = Penis
If you loved your penis as much as your nexus 4, would you stick your penis in any hole without protection?
Protective case and/or phone insurance. Sorry, no sympathy for you here... enough said.
IB4L

I also had phone falling out of my pocket while on my back working on my jeep ('03 TJ Rubicon). He's right, Jeep guys don't make up ****.
I moved quite a bit working on my back (such as torqing suspension bolts etc.) And thing do fall out like keys and phone.
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i thought these phones were concrete proof..
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phitch said:
You dropped your phone on your driveway from 5 inches too? He also never said where he was, if he is under his jeep he is probably in his garage like normal people. I am not coming out of nowhere, the story doesn't make a lick of sense no matter how you add it up. How did a guy who is working on his jeep have his phone slip out of his front pocket? What sort of jeep owner wears super baggy pants? Most blue jeans have tight enough pockets that this isn't an issue. But hey, feel free to believe what you want.
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You have made more assumptions in your posts than a lawyer defending someone in a he said she said case... Not everyone has a garage. Not all jeep owners wear jeans everyday. I have had my phone slip out of my pocket plenty of times while I was laying down. You my friend should stop making accusations over stupid assumptions.
To the op I honestly think you are to blame for buying a phone made of glass and not getting a case... Fix it yourself like the other person said. Just watch a YouTube video of how to do it. And buy a case for your phone...
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That's what you get for buying a glass-backed phone. Shoulda waited for the Nexus coming this Fall.
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Sorry that happened. It is a glass front and back device though. Glass isn't exactly the most sturdy material. I must be one of the lucky ones. I've dropped mine twice now with no case on (I like em naked) and had no damage. Once from about 3 feet up down onto hard tile.
Sent from one device or another.

chancy319 said:
WHAT?!?! You mean a phone made with a glass back breaks on impact??? I'm shocked. I thought rainbows and unicorns would come out.
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You tried to hard to be funny there...
Also tl;dr at OP
U bought a phone knowing it's glass, and not using a case, your fault
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Nobody should call OP a liar...
Op, sorry for the misfortune! I'd die if my phone cracked :sob: but I also have 2 full protection dual layer cases, a bumper, and screen protectors on frint/back. Take precautions with any piece of glass regardless if it's your phone or a 10ft pane.
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rpaloalto said:
Ok, So I loved my nexus 4. I loved it so much I even bought a second one just to have for the hell of it.
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What is this nonsense. How rich are you, spending near 400 dollars *just for the hell of it*

[Q] To all people who have naked One, how does it look now?

Now that you've owned the device for a few months, is the aluminium back full of scratches?
I am thinking of going naked, but haven't got the courage to do it. I don't drop my phones, so it's just scratches I'm concerned about.
And no, I don't want to install wet-application skins like Best Skins Ever, Zagg, etc. The reason being the One has gaps on the back where the white plastic lines are. I know they advertise Zero Gap, but it's not water-proof. The phone might be fine after the installation but who knows if the liquid indicator has turned pink inside.

Black Dawg Down said:
Now that you've owned the device for a few months, is the aluminium back full of scratches?
I am thinking of going naked, but haven't got the courage to do it. I don't drop my phones, so it's just scratches I'm concerned about.
And no, I don't want to install wet-application skins like Best Skins Ever, Zagg, etc. The reason being the One has gaps on the back where the white plastic lines are. I know they advertise Zero Gap, but it's not water-proof. The phone might be fine after the installation but who knows if the liquid indicator has turned pink inside.
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the outcome isnt good but im getting the n5 so it's like w.e
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hello00 said:
the outcome isnt good but im getting the n5 so it's like w.e
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Whoa! No clue what you've done, but I've had mine for over a month, never in a case and it still looks new. I'm actually impressed!
Like all things, if you take care of your products it will last a long time, if you're careless, of course you will see scratches and so forth.
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Yeah me too! I ordered that HTC red and grey case but its on back order. Ive had my phone for about a month now and have had a few light drops down my bedside, and have put it in my pockets pocket's with keys on accidents and honestly, I am very very impressed.
Oh yeah! I just remembered it fell out of my pocket in the car and slid under the seat, twice. I thought for sure I would see some damage but not a chance!
I do however have the slightest stratch that you can see if held in the very right light. I also have a tiny tiny blemish. I'll post pictures for you.
I have intentionally not babied my phone and I must say I'm impressed.
Pictures to come.
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RPelham said:
Whoa! No clue what you've done, but I've had mine for over a month, never in a case and it still looks new. I'm actually impressed!
Like all things, if you take care of your products it will last a long time, if you're careless, of course you will see scratches and so forth.
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it fell off my pocket and landed on my concrete driveway from 2 feet..i was cleaning the rims of my car

Dropped mine on a concrete floor face flat down from about a bit higher than knee height. Only got a very small dent on the chamfer.

My black One looks the same after a month. If I clean it a little bit it already looks like it comes right out the box.

hello00 said:
it fell off my pocket and landed on my concrete driveway from 2 feet..i was cleaning the rims of my car
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Ah, yeah I can sympathize. Concrete is brutal for phones, I was sitting on the ground at my work outside and my old galaxy s3 fell a half a foot from my lap to the concrete and the screen cracked.
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Had mine since it was released, was using the double dip flip case. Some bits got under the plastic holster and there are 5 small black marks on the back.
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It still looks like brand new!

Mine has some minor scuff marks on the aluminium from 2 drops from 1 meter onto stone slabs, and one drop from table onto a wooden floor. It's a slippery phone so I should have it in a case, but it looks far too good for any case.

Someone handed me an HTC One the other day at an outdoor barbecue.
After awhile I realized what they we trying to politely tell me as they were handing it to me.
It was mine.
No idea how it slipped out of my pocket.
No idea what orientation it was in when they found it lying in the ground.
All I know is after closely inspecting it for a few minutes I finally located a small blemish on the bottom right rear corner. It took quite a while to find it in very good light. No internal damage that I can tell.
And I'm *still* never going to put a case on this thing. It's like a jewel. It gives me pleasure every time I pick it up.
If I destroy it in two months, it will have given me $650 in pleasure just from holding it. If I had it in a case it could never give me a penny's worth of tactile gratification no matter how long I used it.
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+1. I completely love the look and feel of this phone. A case is just sacrilege.
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Ive had my HTC One for a month or so now and i use a the official HTC flip case and screen protectors and all i can say its worth doing. I learnt my lesson from my previous phones that i didn't think of putting a case on and they look like crap now. so the first thing i do is buy a case and screen protectors plus im not the most careful of people so this just adds peace of mind.

As careful as I am, I still end up dropping the phone now and then. Usually a very small drop, but still something I grimace at.
I've had this phone since the middle of May; not a long time. As time goes on, I will care less and less about the micro scratches that would inevitably happen when using the phone naked. At the moment, however, I'm still admiring how sexy the Black is. At the moment, I'm still hesitant to use it out of it's case.
Maybe after a year I will be ready.
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Mine still mint, more or less... my son knocked it off an end table IN A CASE and the case knicked the top and bottom slightly on the edge. Go figure........
Now I only use a case at work because it slides on its back on my desk and that will wreck havoc on the back of the phone with scratches.
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If there is a clear skin I can put on the back that fits exactly, I would consider going naked.
I noticed two scratches on the top speaker cover today. They're from my case
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Its been about 2 months now for me and it's never seen a case or screen protector. I, like many others here, think it would be shame to cover up this phone and I can't stand the way screen protectors feel and collect dirt/scratches like immediately.
Absolutely no damage on mine, not even on the chamfers. I've dropped it 3 or so times, once on hardwood, never on concrete fortunately From the various posts I've read on XDA the consensus seems to be that it's a very robust phone with a lot of people dropping it without damage.

When I get paid from my new job I'm gonna take off this cheap light rubberised case and get a UAG case and a Steinheil screen protector, I've seen countless story's on xda with people who didn't have protection on their phone dropped it and it smashed it's just not worth the risk after paying all that money.
My two cents anyway.
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I got mine by the end of April. Never had a case on it and I'm in love how it feels at touch. I'm always very careful with this beauty but this morning the alarm rang and I think you already know what happened. :crying: it has a small crack on the right corner crossing the home button all the way to the right edge. I was always against cases other protective covers for this device but now I feel so sorry.
suggestion: if you still have your phone intact just by a freaking insurance or ..a case.