Hi,
I'm surffing the net looking for a cheap smartphone since I see Iphone for first time.
Today I've found this:
http://www.ipmart.com/main/product/...S,6,1,,Wifi,,Bluetooth,111958.php?prod=111958
And I really liked all about HTC Touch Viva. But what is my surprise when I discover that it was a "Fake" or a "Clone" (Sorry my english, I'm spanish)
So I loved the price, and I want to know if I bought it If I would be able to use it as a real HTC Touch Viva (Same APP's working, etc, etc)
¿Any help? Thanks!
I got a touch Viva clone and unsatisfactory performance
r3dd3vil2 said:
Hi,
I'm surffing the net looking for a cheap smartphone since I see Iphone for first time.
Today I've found this:
http://www.ipmart.com/main/product/...S,6,1,,Wifi,,Bluetooth,111958.php?prod=111958
And I really liked all about HTC Touch Viva. But what is my surprise when I discover that it was a "Fake" or a "Clone" (Sorry my english, I'm spanish)
So I loved the price, and I want to know if I bought it If I would be able to use it as a real HTC Touch Viva (Same APP's working, etc, etc)
¿Any help? Thanks!
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Dont know to what extent it will work but since it's Windows Mobile 6.1 it should be able to take not very particular apps, also the processor says 460Mhz, thats a lot! the HTC VIVA (Original) is said to have a clockspeed of 201MHz but truly has only 186 MHz.
Its actually your call whether to get it or not, my recommendation to you would be a no.
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Hi all, right... where to begin?!?!
I ahve the HTC touch also and basically im trying to decide which to keep..
Im happy with my touch, but have soem questions regarding the Kaiser...
Basically, how do i change the homescreen to the same as the touch one (3 buttoms, big clock etc).... ? i have 4 options in my menu but none are remotely simular to the touch... ive seen it on the kaiser, just figure its oranges way of messing with your head....
can anyone give me some brief info and advise, tips or tricks?
other than that i'll sell the kaiser.... but id sooner learn how to properly use it first
cheers all for reading
hey,
anyone out there atall had a orange tytn II? that could offer some advise?
Hmmm.... it's a difficult one.. It all depends on what you want it for really.
You can still sell Kaiser's for £300 + , and if all you want is a phone where you can listen to music, watch some movies/shows, I'd sell the Kaiser.
That's my opinion, but i'd have a good think about it, only you can make the decision.
In regards to the today screen, you can have a much more functional HTC home plugin on the Kaiser I think, with up to 6 buttons whoch all come in handy. In case you don't know, you can also have the HTC Cube on the Kaiser, the same as that which you get on the Touch..
thanks audio
leeboy13 said:
thanks audio
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No Worries, This may help also (ignore the two 3 phones I've added on at the end)
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/c...anyNameSearch=39035736&submit.x=44&submit.y=1
And as I'm sure you know, the Touch does have music playback, so no idea why it's left blank on there
Guys..!! Tonight Im gonna buy my Iphone! Just to know what the hype is all about! I got a tytn 2 now but im so angry at HTC...! So..What I wanted to know, who has the Iphone? And what do you think about it?
*ps did you allready flashed version 1.1.3?
i've messed with one a m8 got one from us still locked though
played a bit of snes was pretty cool
iphone is cool just limited
once you buy an iphone, and when you become used to with it, you will feel stupid about yourself for wasting money on WM devices. But you have to get used to with it. You may not like it in first use.
it all comes down to requirements
if one need gps, 3g, video calls or a larger 3th party program amounts
iphone may not be for you
but as a media device, phone and browser device it's all good
though guess a phonepad t9 input options would make the transistion easier for
avarage mobile switchers
I currently use an htc touch and would love to try the iphone but my main concern is exchange sync..i now use mail2web for my email service so i would like to know if there are any third party solution for exchange syncing.
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hi Friends,
i´m waiting for the samsung i900 omnia.....wait...wait..the best wm phone ever..see the specs (google it) or :
http://samsungomnia.org/reviews
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=AGcatrxh2vA
and my question is:
is possible use s2u2 in that phone because the resolution is WQVGA 240x400 pixel.
so software like s2u2, s2p, s2v and other software like tomtom, is compatible or not?
thaks for the great work people in this forum.
NOTE: and is time to increse this forum to other phone thade marks phones (not only htc) more and more.
Remenber , diversity is wallways better for the consumer, for the final user
let`s talk of everything related Samsung Omnia
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no reply?????
Since its just been released in Singapore you probably wont see too much talk about it here. Try this site www.ppcsg.com for a lot more info.
the new ui looks a bit janky and the screen resolution is weird
thats my objection to it
other than that, lovely
I don't like Samsung too much, but the Omnia looks like a great phone - the new Marvell PXA320 processor running up to 800 MHz (stock speed) will be great choice for performance
Samsung Omnia
why is everyone going for an inferior phone? the Omnia only has QVGA. Why not just buy the HTC Diamond which is VGA?
greatestkelvin said:
why is everyone going for an inferior phone? the Omnia only has QVGA. Why not just buy the HTC Diamond which is VGA?
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Basically, the touch diamond has it myriad of problems at the moment, In terms of hardware and form factor, I'd go for the Samsung. Basically, the widescreen 3.2" screen is a main factor, as well as the nice hardware on it. The diamond has a cool UI, and that's all it has. Plus Touchflo still has issues, 3D drivers not working to their full potential...etc...
HTC needs to start making devices and stop writing software, they are a good ODM, plus oh please, stop being another microsoft and give us buggy software with every new phone launch.
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why is everyone going for an inferior phone? the Omnia only has QVGA. Why not just buy the HTC Diamond which is VGA?
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Screen resolution alone does not make a good phone, are you implying that phones like the TyTN II, Touch Cruise, Samsung i780 and Nokia N-series are inferior because they dont have VGA screens? How about the fact that the Diamond has no storage card slot, or has a 3.2MP camera does that make it inferior to the Omnia? VGA is desireable but not necessary so just because a phone does not have it does not make it inferior.
Versus
Did everyone see my post on Diamond vs Omnia? Here's a indepth review of both phones head-to-head and with lots of pictures.
I thought I might be leaning towards the Touch Pro (Diamond out of the question) but now, I think I'm contemplating the Omnia. The camera review on the same site is great too (Vs. SE X1, Pro, Diamond).
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_vs_samsung_i900_omnia-review-262.php
Camera Review:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=rev...i900-omnia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison
just got mine yesterday.
totally cool. fast and responsive.
my touch cruise sitting at home while im going out with my new samsung.
1 thing i don't like is why the settings for the camera's contrast, saturation and sharpness
doesn't stay the way i set it?
Everytime i go back into camera, i have to set it again before taking a pic? weird.
C J said:
just got mine yesterday.
totally cool. fast and responsive.
my touch cruise sitting at home while im going out with my new samsung.
1 thing i don't like is why the settings for the camera's contrast, saturation and sharpness
doesn't stay the way i set it?
Everytime i go back into camera, i have to set it again before taking a pic? weird.
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Hello, can you tell me what bluetooth it has? , Microsoft or Broadcom?.
What i want to do is send all sounds including Tomtom on bluetooth like i can do now with my Asus.
Cheers.
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hi Friends,
i´m waiting for the samsung i900 omnia.....wait...wait..the best wm phone ever..see the specs (google it) or :
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Check this review from Singapore before you decide ...
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=31024391&postcount=59
But anyway if just use the phone it self is very stable. Is more reponsive than Diamond ... may be the screen resolution id different .. Resolution for Diamond is 640 x 480 however Omnia lower (cann't recall the exact resolution )
kakarato said:
Check this review from Singapore before you decide ...
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showpost.php?p=31024391&postcount=59
But anyway if just use the phone it self is very stable. Is more reponsive than Diamond ... may be the screen resolution id different .. Resolution for Diamond is 640 x 480 however Omnia lower (cann't recall the exact resolution )
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Any info about bluetooth manager as i was asking at previous post?
Cheers.
User22 said:
Hello, can you tell me what bluetooth it has? , Microsoft or Broadcom?.
What i want to do is send all sounds including Tomtom on bluetooth like i can do now with my Asus.
Cheers.
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Omnia with build in GPS tested on igo8, TOMTOM 7, MapKing 2007, NavFone 2.11..
simonxda said:
Omnia with build in GPS tested on igo8, TOMTOM 7, MapKing 2007, NavFone 2.11..
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Thanks but i am not asking if any navigation software is working on it.
What i want is if any one of you can go to bluetooth manager and check in there if it is Microsoft or Broadcomm/Widcomm.
User22 said:
Thanks but i am not asking if any navigation software is working on it.
What i want is if any one of you can go to bluetooth manager and check in there if it is Microsoft or Broadcomm/Widcomm.
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It has the Microsoft BT stack.
efjay said:
It has the Microsoft BT stack.
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Bad news then, because Microsoft normaly don't send the Tomtom voice to any handsfree device (including cd radio car player with integrated bt)...bye bye Samsung.
Any way, thanks for your info.
User22 said:
Bad news then, because Microsoft normaly don't send the Tomtom voice to any handsfree device (including cd radio car player with integrated bt)...bye bye Samsung.
Any way, thanks for your info.
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Most WM devices since the release of WM5 have used the WM stack, there may be a few exceptions but the norm has been to use the BT stack.
efjay said:
Most WM devices since the release of WM5 have used the WM stack, there may be a few exceptions but the norm has been to use the BT stack.
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Well, Asus and LG are using Broadcomm/Widcomm bt stack, wich can do sending absolute all sound to any handsfree device when needed, without holding active the bt, only connect when needed.
Microsoft bt stack is sending only phone calls. If you want to send all sounds, you must to use third party software that let a permanent open channel to your handsfree, bad very bad.
No
i900 is not the best WM Phone.
HTC Touch Pro is the best all-in-1 WM Phone now.
Also, Samsung material quality is very terrible & cheap.
i dunno if people have posted threads about this phone but all i have to say is ive found the answer to all my prayers...personally i think the touch pro needed a biggger screen...i love my tilt but uupgrading to the touch pro will be little different other then size/width,ram/space and VGA display. Which in turn are all very great upgrades, but looking at the iphone, the touch pro neeeds a biggger screen but o well. And I'm not saying that im not going to get the touchpro because i am..just because i still consider it to be a better phone then the iphone for functionality and much more......but tonight ive found the equivelent to the best phone, possibley on the planet...HTC is coming out with
THE HTC TOUCH HD
CNET.COM Asia site has most of the specs but the realy important **** that caught my eye....
3.8" screen 480x800 display with a WVGA screeen resolution
5.0 mega pixel camera
512 megs of onboard rom 256 ram
Qualcomm 7500 processor with close to 600mhz chip
supposed FM radio
weighs 5 ounces!
TouchFlo 3D not 2D
and last but not least...a G-sensor which is like iphone accelerometer which when u flip the phone sideways it turns the frame and rotates the phone screen image.
i mean this is freakin bananas for those who have never seen this phone plz enjoy because thiis thing is goig to dominate and reintroduce HTC again as the major player in th phone market..after the little driver issues with the tilt.
here are more pictures on this site i been on all night comparing the iphone 3G, touch and touch pro with the touch HD
http://dailymobile.se/2008/09/19/pictures-iphone-vs-htc-touch-hd/t
http://dailymobile.se/2008/09/16/htc-touch-hd-specifications/
both these sites show coparison and close up pictures ive attached images with the touch hd and iphone comparison
(look how bright and much clearer the touch hd WVGA screen is to the iphones screen)
this is ridiculous..after i play with the touch pro for a couple months this winter..its going to follow my tilt onto craigslist and be sold, so when this TOUCH HD phone drops for tmobile or ATT in 2009, ill have it and ill be rdy to pay $600 and up for it if i have too because i dont think im gonna buy another phone after the touch hd for atleast 5yrs. gauranteed!
enjoy!
dunno if people have posted threads about this phone(...)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429499
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2646905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2653733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426482
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2665750
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425031
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425782
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2624240
and much more over there.
Enough?
yea dood i been gone from xda for like a month...as soon as i saw this thing i had to post just cuz im so freakin amazed ad jumpy. I havent been so siced over a phone since the tilt...the touch pro doesnt have me that thrillled right now but this touch hd is off the hook...if anybody knows the release date or hears anything plz post...mid october is beautiful...worse comes too worse ill freakin buy this phone online if it drops in london or something.
Sick phone, but will it have the video-output feature?
I noticed this on HTC's site a week or so ago, and it will totally dominate the iPhone. I'm upgrading from my Tilt to the Fuze (Touch Pro) when it's released at ATT on Oct 23rd...I'm really looking forward to the video out feature. If this Touch HD has that it WILL be the perfect phone!
Just have to say...got my wife an iPhone 3G the other day. Pretty slick interface, everything is fast and very smooth. Video playback puts every WinMo phone I've ever used to shame. No chopping, no freezes...just like watching a movie on my HD Plasma screen at home.
However I miss the ability to customize it like you can with WinMo phones. And not to mention the complicated process of putting music on the iPhone from iTunes. Good gosh they overcomplicated that process. Much easier with windows to simply drag and drop files/folders from your desktop into Activesync. A cool phone nonetheless...will have to get used to an on-screen keyboard with the Touch HD as my last 3 devices have had slideouts.
May I ask what do those have to do w/ Kaiser?
moegdaog said:
I havent been so siced over a phone since the tilt...the touch pro doesnt have me that thrillled right now but this touch hd is off the hook...
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Erm... the Touch HD is technically identical to the Touch Pro, just with a bigger screen and no keyboard. That's it. It brings nothing else new to the table, it runs the same TouchFlo 3D as the Pro and the Diamond, along with the same processor, memory, GPS, accelerometer, on the same old WinMo 6.1... apart from the screen, the experience of using this device will be nigh on identical to the Touch Diamond or Pro. So unless I'm missing something, it's really not that big a deal.
Will it "dominate" the Iphone? Of course not. It will divert a few sales amongst those looking for the highest res screen, but those who like the Iphone way of working will still choose the Iphone (in their millions) and those who prefer Windows Mobile will simply have one more option to choose from. Bigger screen (Touch HD) or proper keyboard (Touch Pro) - the choice is yours.
I hope they do a similar device to the touch HD but with a keyboard... love the idea of a WVGA screen on my next device, web browsing will be great compared to QVGA on kaiser!
I wonder if the processor is powerful enough to deliver a smooth experience at that WCGA with touch flow 3d?
I think I am in heaven!!! WOW and WOW again!!!
I will have to wait another year or so until my contract comes up for renewal.
Is Android a stand alone OS? or is it merely a GUI for Windows Mobile? Will I be able to use any of my WM apps/games? Please tell me I can.
it's called xda porn
MACkjam said:
I think I am in heaven!!! WOW and WOW again!!!
I will have to wait another year or so until my contract comes up for renewal.
Is Android a stand alone OS? or is it merely a GUI for Windows Mobile? Will I be able to use any of my WM apps/games? Please tell me I can.
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A year? Why even post! There'll be far better phones out in a year's time.
Android is an entirely different OS with no compatibilty with WM or WM apps at all, other than the fact that the first Android phone (the G1) happens to be made by HTC and shares a similar Qualcom-powered hardware platform. Thanks to this, ports of Android to various existing WM phones are already underway - but installing an Android ROM means losing WM and your current apps (it also doesn't work very well yet, as far as I know).
Why are we talking about Android anyway? As said before, the Touch HD (subject of this thread) is Just-Another-Windows-Phone running all the same software as the Touch Pro and Touch Diamond, just in a slightly different form factor.
i mean ya it will be similar to the touch pro in fuctionality ...but being able to do the same things with almost double the screeen size is amazing homie. imagine watching youtube and avi dvd rips on this 3.8" screeen? not to mention web browsing on opera and w/e else comes out. WVGA iis too sick...when u see the resolution next to thhe iphone..the iphone looks like a packard bell monitor in comparison, just look for yourself in the pictures.
Boinng said:
A year? Why even post! There'll be far better phones out in a year's time.
Android is an entirely different OS with no compatibilty with WM or WM apps at all, other than the fact that the first Android phone (the G1) happens to be made by HTC and shares a similar Qualcom-powered hardware platform. Thanks to this, ports of Android to various existing WM phones are already underway - but installing an Android ROM means losing WM and your current apps (it also doesn't work very well yet, as far as I know).
Why are we talking about Android anyway? As said before, the Touch HD (subject of this thread) is Just-Another-Windows-Phone running all the same software as the Touch Pro and Touch Diamond, just in a slightly different form factor.
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My my, do you have nappy rash? Why post? Because I can and I want to.
moegdaog said:
i mean ya it will be similar to the touch pro in fuctionality
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Not similar, identical
...but being able to do the same things with almost double the screeen size is amazing homie. imagine watching youtube and avi dvd rips on this 3.8" screeen? not to mention web browsing on opera and w/e else comes out. WVGA iis too sick...when u see the resolution next to thhe iphone..the iphone looks like a packard bell monitor in comparison, just look for yourself in the pictures.
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It's all relative to what you want to do, if crystal clear Youtube clips is your whole thing then ok, it might well be the phone for you, but I can't see most Iphone users (or Touch Pro users for that matter) being too jealous. It doesn't make the Iphone screen suddenly bad, videos on the Iphone are still going to be just as slick as they are now, and so's the rest of the user experience (which WM can't match on any screen just yet).
For the record, I don't own an Iphone or a Touch Pro just yet, I'm waiting out another month in QVGA on the Tytn II - but after that I'll probably go for the Iphone. I'm tired of WM and the Touch HD doesn't begin to change that.
MACkjam said:
My my, do you have nappy rash? Why post? Because I can and I want to.
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Great! Thanks!
HTC completely screwed up by reverting to dual band UMTS.
HTC to international travelers: screw U
Boinng said:
Erm... the Touch HD is technically identical to the Touch Pro, just with a bigger screen and no keyboard.
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Last time i checked that wasn't TECHNICALLY identical
and we've all see than having the same hardward does not inherently mean the same device. There are lots of reasons to be excited about taht device. If you're not, then just ignore it. I don't see why you need to come throw cold water one everyone's fun in here.
I'm curious why this is in the Kaiser General forum though as it's not about the Kaiser at all...
Boinng said:
Not similar, identical
It's all relative to what you want to do, if crystal clear Youtube clips is your whole thing then ok, it might well be the phone for you, but I can't see most Iphone users (or Touch Pro users for that matter) being too jealous. It doesn't make the Iphone screen suddenly bad, videos on the Iphone are still going to be just as slick as they are now, and so's the rest of the user experience (which WM can't match on any screen just yet).
For the record, I don't own an Iphone or a Touch Pro just yet, I'm waiting out another month in QVGA on the Tytn II - but after that I'll probably go for the Iphone. I'm tired of WM and the Touch HD doesn't begin to change that.
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You said it, my friend. Lately my Tilt has been acting up and I'm pulling my hair out it's so annoying. I'm not one for masochism. I've used the Touch too, and friends who have it have had similar problems as me after a couple months use (eventual slowing down, unresposiveness)
On the contrary I have an iPod Touch which I've had for over a year and it's remarkably strong still. I'm no Apple fb, but my next phone might be an iPhone because I'm so fed up with WinMo (or HTC, not sure which really)
So I don't see Touch HD becoming an iPhone killer at all. It;s not the specs that make iPhone good, because the specs suck. It's got the best UI, best touch keyboard (my Tilts physical keyboard is less accurate!), and it's cheap for the quality of the product.
this means Touchflo 3d should be possible on Xperia i guess.
The Touch HD looks awesome but it still gonna carry WM6. That's the problem I got with it. WM7 looking farther and farther away doesn't help, $200 for iphone looks good.
TOUCH HD
Won't the touch HD have a 5 MP camera? thats a real difference!
i would also imagine it has better photo "capture" speed.
and the touch pro, based on the one I held in J&R a few weeks ago, does not have an external camera button either, you need to do it on screen.
that would be another real difference.
i imagine by the spring (and hopefully when my contract is up) that they will
have a the Touch HD with a keyboard, updated drivers, and WM7.
that would be pretty sweet, in my humble opinion.
michael
Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.
how much you sell it for? I'm selling mine so i can get the Crackberry Bold.
yea
i'm curious
sold it to my roomate for 200
HAW Haw!!! Your roomate got sloppy seconds!
sodenrox said:
Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.
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How could you do that to us!? I thought what we had was special
Good luck with your G1 man!
sodenrox said:
Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.
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Good for you can you explain the motivation? i mean what can we get from G1 that is better than the kaiser?
udi1 said:
Good for you can you explain the motivation? i mean what can we get from G1 that is better than the kaiser?
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Probably stunted machine currently but actually supported by Google with a lot of regular future upgrades -- drivers too! Can't beat that.
$200?!?!?
Jeez - I paid $50 for it new at AT&T last November when it came out (gotta LOVE those rebates).
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Probably stunted machine currently but actually supported by Google with a lot of regular future upgrades -- drivers too! Can't beat that.
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I wonder how it performs as far as smooth video playback is concerned (compared to the Kaiser using Windows Pocket Media Player 10.3). Not because I'm interested in getting a G1 (just like the Touch Pro, I believe it doesn't have the tilting screen of the TyTN II) but because I want to know just what the hardware is capable of in terms of processing power when proper drivers are used.
sold my tytn II also
It never worked as i hoped and expected. . .
my old ipaq 2210 did a better job showing video's and recorded tv shows.
that 's one big reason to sell for me.
the lag when ending a phonecall and screen rotating with sms did the rest.
I like the looks of the new touch HD but that seems also lagging and is not able to play video in its native resolution so it looks like more of the same but then in a higher resolution.
calling it HD and not been able to play native resolution video?
i lost my confidence in HTC for their lack in proper 2D and 3D drivers with my TYTN II, and will not travel the same road with their HD. . . . . .
A standard gsm will do for now, awaiting newer OS and Hardware.
XDA rocks tho!