Is there any equivalent to Readyboost for our devices. I ask because I really love some of the newer ROM's out there but find them unusable due to out of memory messages. If I could dedicate say another 256mb to act as RAM it would make the Diamond much faster and capable of doing more.
Any comments would be appreciated and this is the wrong section sorry, feel free to put it in the right place.
not any type of virtuel mem is not currently supported by wm
i have to say in WM it would be a nice idea, but in vista its just crap imho... just get some more ram in your pc.. it isnt that hard... but for a phone it is
with vista it stop'd helping if you had 1GB of memory
and getting vista on a computer with less then 1GB mem was
crazy anyway
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Is it possible to add extra Ram to the Dream by way of soldering a new Chip in?
Anything is possible, but no one has made the attempt yet.
tricky buisness but its possible
in school we are soldering electronic components and i was wondering bout this also, but upgrade to what?? what is available out there for our phones
This is a very interesting topic for future development; however, I do not think the phone manufacturers are likely to oblige requests from the more hardcore users for power and memory upgrades. As all developers currently design for an exact type of device, allowing for those types of changes may diversify the market in a negative way.
The users have circumvented the 80mb system storage limit with "APPS2SD" and similar functionality, which I think is wonderful, but I await the person with the inclination to upgrade other types of hardware in a more "permanent" manner. I personally would love to have a faster machine, just so I'm not dealing with lag in heavier applications.
There is always the venue of creating a swap file, although I'm not certain what the performance cut is over a potential physical RAM upgrade. Would be worth researching.
Considerations..
When swapping chips..lots of things have to be taken into consideration..voltages of new ram..power consumption...also physical space limitations...Ill def follow this..
I think there even used to be companies a while ago that did this, for specific phones like the treo 650. What would you need the RAM upgrade for? Apps2SD is great..
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I think there even used to be companies a while ago that did this, for specific phones like the treo 650. What would you need the RAM upgrade for? Apps2SD is great..
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Rosie.... DUH!
RAM is faster than MicroSD, however I haven't benchmarked the speed of the internal memory myself. Apps2SD is just used as extra storage not memory... Unlike what compcache/linux swap would actually do.
There has been a few threads already about people thinking about adding extra RAM into their G1, however you would have to find a suitable supplier of said RAM chips (same specifications bar size) and then you could attempt it.
I'm stuck though on an 18 month contract and can quite happily see me upgrading the G1 for a SnapDragon CPU model.
I have a couple of questions about linux-swap.
So I'm on the Hero 2 rom and I have 32MB swap partition. I want to go to the JACxHEROSki-v2.0 rom and at the same time make my swap partition bigger before I flash but I'm unsure if it's safe to go bigger than a 32MB.
"DO NOT USE MORE THAN 32MB SWAP!!!"
They placed this right above the example of how to partition your SD card on the JACxHEROSki-v2.0 but "RECOMMENDED VALUES linux-swap partition = 64MB" is what they placed as recommendations!!! So I'm a little confused. Anyone want to show a little experience?
How about this. Re-partition your sdcard with 96mb for linux-swap. Then when you want to change it go to the recovery console and type
Code:
parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
resize 3 x y
print (to verify it worked)
quit
reboot
Substitue in the start and end points for the file system for the x an y respectively. This will give you the ability to play around with up to 96mb of linux-swap space with the ability to change it out whenever you want without repartitioning the entire sdcard.
Personally testing something is always better than having some one tell you what to use.
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I have a couple of questions about linux-swap.
So I'm on the Hero 2 rom and I have 32MB swap partition. I want to go to the JACxHEROSki-v2.0 rom and at the same time make my swap partition bigger before I flash but I'm unsure if it's safe to go bigger than a 32MB.
"DO NOT USE MORE THAN 32MB SWAP!!!"
They placed this right above the example of how to partition your SD card on the JACxHEROSki-v2.0 but "RECOMMENDED VALUES linux-swap partition = 64MB" is what they placed as recommendations!!! So I'm a little confused. Anyone want to show a little experience?
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if they suggest something then go with it. they said 64mb for 2.1, so go with 64mb. its not hard to understand
Ignore the warning, I don't really understand why it's there. I have run with 64 mb swap and 32 and 62 is significantly faster. I have even heard of swaps in the 100's that is apparently load screen free.
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Ignore the warning, I don't really understand why it's there. I have run with 64 mb swap and 32 and 62 is significantly faster. I have even heard of swaps in the 100's that is apparently load screen free.
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well 32 just happens to be more stable in the long
Or if you use what i posted you can change it any time you want and see for yourself which is better.
32, 64, 96, 200+???
I have browsed around various different forums regarding this issue and couldn't find anything definitive. If possible, can I get a developer to answer this question? What size should the linux-swap be to run hero ROM with minimal lag and no "htc" loading screens? I seen one guy say he has 300MB for linux-swap. Is it bad to have your swap set really high? If so, explain. Thanks to anyone with an intelligent answer.
Twisted uses 100mb, I use 128mb. I havent had any long term bad effects and forgot what the loading screen looks like.
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Twisted uses 100mb, I use 128mb. I havent had any long term bad effects and forgot what the loading screen looks like.
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Just to experiment, I set my swap last night to 256MB. I know its kinda high, but just wanted to see the performance difference. The funny thing is that I have not seen any "htc" loading screens, but im starting to see weird lag in other areas. One example is when im switching from screen to screen. It was smooth before with 32MB, but I got the "htc" loading screens. I will repartition it for 128MB to see if I can get rid of the "htc" loading screens and lag. I'll reply after my testing...
Rom: JACxHEROSki-v1.8
SDHC: 4GB Class 2 [I know, im too lazy to order the $10 Class 6 4GB]
When running Hero I usually go with 64mb swap with 60 swappiness. A higher swap will not see loading screens ever but will initially lag like crazy. You can go 96 but I personally saw lag from that also. And actually in JACHEROSki-v2.1 thread he says 64mb recommended.
My testing is complete. I'm using 128MB linux-swap and my hero ROM has been flying. No loading screens and no real lag. It looks like 256MB was too much and 32MB is too little. I'm fine with 128MB.
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My testing is complete. I'm using 128MB linux-swap and my hero ROM has been flying. No loading screens and no real lag. It looks like 256MB was too much and 32MB is too little. I'm fine with 128MB.
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you phone is going to lag later on. its fast for now. but bad later. 32mb is the most stable according to devs.
in all honesty how long does someone keep a hero rom on their phone without flashing another one? if someone wants to use a large linux-swap partition then just every few days or so destroy it and make another one.
besides we want instant gratification not long term benefits (that's just society in general)
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in all honesty how long does someone keep a hero rom on their phone without flashing another one? if someone wants to use a large linux-swap partition then just every few days or so destroy it and make another one.
besides we want instant gratification not long term benefits (that's just society in general)
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thats your opinion. i just stated a fact.
and i disagree society want instant gratification. some ppl actually think about long term . i.e. getting dream over magic. magic has a longer lifetime than g1 and is a better investment in the long run. some people loook for longevity
this isn't the forum for sociology, but i do mean look at all the "diet" pills, the easy way out, all the fast food places, the i-want-it-now-an-damn-the-consequences crowd. yes there are some people that plan ahead and think of the future, but there are also those that do not. just from things i have witnessed and observed the second outweighs the first.
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thats your opinion. i just stated a fact.
and i disagree society want instant gratification. some ppl actually think about long term . i.e. getting dream over magic. magic has a longer lifetime than g1 and is a better investment in the long run. some people loook for longevity
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If you look for "longevity" you would not mod your phone at all. These actions can result in a shorter life span of your device. *FACT* If you want "longevity" stick with the OTA garbage t-mobile pushes you. I don't mean that to be offensive towards you, just t-mobile.
Right now my G1 is still flying with 128MB swap. Running for more than 18HRS with no re-boots, htc loading screens or lag. I will more then likely flash a new hero ROM once one is available.
I have to agree with David and shadow on this one. Get that rom rollen as fast as you can, then wipe ext3 when needed
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If you look for "longevity" you would not mod your phone at all. These actions can result in a shorter life span of your device. *FACT* If you want "longevity" stick with the OTA garbage t-mobile pushes you. I don't mean that to be offensive towards you, just t-mobile.
Right now my G1 is still flying with 128MB swap. Running for more than 18HRS with no re-boots, htc loading screens or lag. I will more then likely flash a new hero ROM once one is available.
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i disagree if you want longevity ,then dont mod.
the fact that some older roms run better than new roms. i.e. akirahs 1.5.1 runs better than the other akirah roms. or jac 1.6r2a is more stable than 2.1. longevity is a positive. some people actually stick with older roms just becuz of the bugs contained in newer roms.
and thats 18hrs. thats very short to some people as well.
and some ppl prefer stability than speed and vice versa.
why swap at all it can mess up ur sd card!!!
oh and p.s people suck in general its fact. some are good but most of selfish and needy gluttons.lol
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why swap at all it can mess up ur sd card!!!
oh and p.s people suck in general its fact. some are good but most of selfish and needy gluttons.lol
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tho swap will shorten your sd card lifetime, it would take a while for it to be destroyed. by then new sd card and technology are out and cheaper.
right now a 4 gig class 6 is 10 bucks. that should last about a year or a little more using swap.
Can the memory on the phonepart (vm6.1) of the HTC SHIFT be larger ? (Without SD-cart)
im also
wondering the same thing???
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wondering the same thing???
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Is this site totally dead
Why not read the thread currently directly below yours titled 'Shifts Ram'?
i think what we mean
on the hardisk can u make the winmo more bigger is that possible?
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Why not read the thread currently directly below yours titled 'Shifts Ram'?
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Because its not RAM iam missing, its place/space to programs
A MOBILE SHELL cant be inst. because its to large
shifts ram chip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491109&highlight=ftoz
Hi i am interesting in it. I find chip and his replacement one. The big problem is that ram and flash disk is on one chip and when y replace it, have device without any software, any bootloader. I dont know, if its possible to flash some soft from win7 to absolutly clean chip.I admire shift with 256MB rom, it will be good for this device dou to lock 3d. I cant find if msm7200 support it, but hope that yes, msm7201a have normaly 256MB ram
To upgrade Shift Rom/ram will need a new enabled rom to read new size memory chips and obviously a new set of chips compatible.
I dont know about wiping all memory would erase bootloader too dont think but in case will need to comunicate with msm xscale directly.
Maybe someone that is here since 2 years ago will remember this has been done to Universal device.
look here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128MBRAM
Good days Mamaich!
But shift is no univerzal, look at pictures on open shift. ram and flash rom memory(for winmobile) is interrated in one chip. If y wish change ram memory, must change flash rom memory. samsung usually made double size rom/ram. It means that y want 256MB ram, it have 512 MB rom. but this chip must be supported by chipset
have anyone msm7200 service chip specification? I see some publicity specification, but there was nothing about ram support
I'm really love HTC old devices and I know it's really impossible & silly question to ask, cause our Himalaya Data Bus only 32 bits with CPU speed just 400 Mhz and RAM size 128 MB with Flash size just 32 MB. But is there any possible and any chance or hope for our Himalaya jump into Windows Phone 7?
Please forgive me for my unnecessary question but I'm just curious about our Himalaya power.
"Please make our Himalaya to keep alive!"
try using xdadev search first !?
might be to much or a actual wp7 rom for hima but try summink like this -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928
any good ??
I'm already done that with WM6.5 Clean ROM by luby. I mean, is there any possible Windows Phone 7 ROM for Himalaya in the future?
no
not possible.
nope.
i think wp7 is 64bit
Yes, you're right! WP7 is 64 bits and our Himalaya is only 32 bits, I guess theres no hope and really impossible for our Himalaya to jump into WP7.
Poor for our Himalaya.......
Hi
I asking how much ram is you getting in a g1
I'm running froyobylazlo and getting beetween 20 - 30 mb free ram
Is any possibility to increase the amount of avaliable ram?
I'm also using the radio hack
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yes, use a smaller rom, use cmtd or possibly update your radio/spl.
i assume your radio hack refers to the 2708+ (dont think fbl works with out it) so you should be good here. search for a thread on custom mtd. this is the mapping layout for your phone. you can adjust how much space is given to the system and cache. with fbl i think you can gain at least 20mb this way. and if you dont mind changing roms there are some that are a bit smaller that can help you trim down a bit too.
good luck!
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yes, use a smaller rom, use cmtd or possibly update your radio/spl.
i assume your radio hack refers to the 2708+ (dont think fbl works with out it) so you should be good here. search for a thread on custom mtd. this is the mapping layout for your phone. you can adjust how much space is given to the system and cache. with fbl i think you can gain at least 20mb this way. and if you dont mind changing roms there are some that are a bit smaller that can help you trim down a bit too.
good luck!
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... are you sure you understood the difference between RAM and internal memory?
Try advance task killer app it always worked for me.
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... are you sure you understood the difference between RAM and internal memory?
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i should pay more attention to what i read!
ram something like 96mb, remember these phones are the dinosaurs of smartphones, well android anyway. the hardware is around 4 years old and wasnt set up to run todays android or todays apps. so it will always seem slow. you will find that using a task killer isnt always the best way to free up ram, you could end up with lost text messages or alarms not going off and such, i know we wont to try anything for our old phones so try something more like watchdog that will tell you if an app is actually slowing the cpu or not.
ram in our android phones is not like ram in your pc, for android ram almost full isnt bad it means things will load faster
im guessing you asking this because your phone is slow, the best fix is a 1.6 rom or a new phone! even with overclocking our phones cpu arent fast enough for what we need, froyobylaszlo is a good rom, not much better or faster so with out a good way of freeing ram or adding speed just be happy with what you have!
running COS-DS, have 40+MB ram free all the time