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My athena start overheating and when that happen the battery is draining very, very fast, faulty hardware or faulty battery what do you think?
I think you have the bluetooth and wifi ON, and the screen backlight at near full brightness ! if not you might be looking at faulty hardware, but I would hard reset it first !
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I think you have the bluetooth and wifi ON, and the screen backlight at near full brightness ! if not you might be looking at faulty hardware, but I would hard reset it first !
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Thanks for your advice, bluetooth is always on, the screen backlight is half the scale and it is not associated with wifi because i don't use it to much.It appears that i have to send it for repairs...
Something in the background?
I had this with a different PDA and there was a process always running in the background that used all the CPU time. Is your microdrive always running? (You can hear a whine if you hold it to your ear). Is something you've installed accessing it a lot (eg a today plugin)?
I presume you've tried a soft reset. Have you tried a hard reset? Try it, and install programs to Storage Card or built-in memory and see if that helps.
If it still does it after a hard reset and no software installed, then yes, it has to go back.
Agreed hard reset. Eliminate software potential problems. Then reseat your battery. If neither work then if under warantee send it all back. If not under warantee I'd be tempted to spring for a new battery. I had what I think was a battery problem similar to what you describe.
Thank you, for advices!
I have just hard reset my Athena and now is time for testing various software combinations.
All my programs are installed in main memory, i use microdrive only for storage purposes...
c1oudrs, could you tell me how to reset battery? it sounds very interesting
What I mean by reseating your battery is just to take it out, let it cool down, put it back in when cool. Dont be alarmed if you have to try to reseat your battery a couple of times to get the power back as it has to fit just right\be latched in just right, but the Athena battery is made to come out/be swapped out. You might want to read p23 and 24 in the users manual. In regaards to hard reset, back up your device as a hard reset will wipe everything that isnt in the rom. p228 in the manual for the hard reset. Taking out the battery shouldnt make it hard reset only soft reset but I would back important info up before taking the battery out anyway. And do regular backups as sop. I only had a heating problem with the battery once with another device (an axim) but it was scary. It started heating up like gangbusters in my pocket.) Reseating the battery took care of it (I swapped out the battery actually) but afterwards I had no problems with either battery. So you figure. Never had a problem since. So its worth a try.
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What I mean by reseating your battery is just to take it out, let it cool down, put it back in when cool. Dont be alarmed if you have to try to reseat your battery a couple of times to get the power back as it has to fit just right\be latched in just right, but the Athena battery is made to come out/be swapped out. You might want to read p23 and 24 in the users manual. In regaards to hard reset, back up your device as a hard reset will wipe everything that isnt in the rom. p228 in the manual for the hard reset. Taking out the battery shouldnt make it hard reset only soft reset but I would back important info up before taking the battery out anyway. And do regular backups as sop. I only had a heating problem with the battery once with another device (an axim) but it was scary. It started heating up like gangbusters in my pocket.) Reseating the battery took care of it (I swapped out the battery actually) but afterwards I had no problems with either battery. So you figure. Never had a problem since. So its worth a try.
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Thank you, i will try.
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My athena start overheating and when that happen the battery is draining very, very fast, faulty hardware or faulty battery what do you think?
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i got same problem once a while. it every ignoring.
After hard reset and formatting the microdrive, everything is working ok (for now).
Thanks for your support!
It seems to be a problem with one particular battery for me. Every time I use that battery, I experience overheating. I have 4 batteries altogether so I always use that particular battery as the last resort. Other batteries are fine. I didn't have to hard reset or anything.
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
Is your battery draining fast?
Get a battery meter and test that because I had a TyTN that did that...
same here original rom wm6.1 NL
Noel M said:
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
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If I where you I would try a diffrent radio and check what aps you are running in background/prosseses. I often use my kaiser as an wifi router and I dont think you gets close to as warm as mine streaming and charging at the same time I abuse it so hard it resets itself, now thats hot hehe. Anyway, some radio are battery monsters for me, its just about to find the best one for youreself.
I have good experience with: 1.58.25.17 in Norway, havent tried it whit duttys.
If not you can try 1.65.14.06 and 1.65.17.10 wich dutty included whit the release.
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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i only experienced this one time when i had my gps turned on for half an hour and my phone turned into a hot potato and battery went from 95 to 15 percent.
u have to realize though that the tilt is sorta like a mini laptop and it will start getting warm after some time unless u give it some rest.
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Unfortunately this is almost unavoidable with lithium batteries. My HTC TyTN II battery gets hot while charging, and even hotter if phone is being used (voice or data). It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging (at least they have thermal control circuits, it could explode otherwise, lithium batteries do not like the heat).
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
Hi Vcespon:
THis is horrible, I can't belive with a advance phone like kaiser something like this happen. Is there any firmware that might fix this, otherwise I will thinking to change this phone, this is unacceptable.
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It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging.
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
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That's not normal. If it is the case your most likely have a hardware problem. Same to the OP.
Mine also got warm and was emptying the battery in a couple of hours once the radio broke down.
Other than this, the only cases where the phone will get really hot is when using WMWifirouter to route the 3G connection to WLAN and downloading a lot. Both the 3G and WiFi radios being on and working hard, plus the processor doing the routing uses a tremendous amount of power. But the device wasn't meant to be used that way anyway.
The GPS also uses quite a bit of power so if you have that on on you might want to try turning it off.
When just talking on the phone the device should get a little warm but no more.
The battery meter would show how much of your battery is being drained when idle... mainly shut down all applications and see what the reading is and that would give you an idea if the device is defective.
I can tell ya, mine gets HOT. I sent the first one back because I thought it was defective. Also with a couple different roms it makes no difference. If your using 3G, BT, GPS, or any combination of those, that SOB will get hot. If I'm charging at the same time, it gets so hot it shuts the charging proccess down. I have to hold it over a AC vent to cool it back down.
Over all though, the only complaint I have with the phone is the heat and battery drain issue.
dead phone or dead battery
Do not know if this where to post. But my TyTn stopped charging. The phone is completly dead. Right now I'm on vacation in a remote location with out any access to the local AT&T to get a battery quick. But the problem is that the battery is not taking a charge. The red charge light is not on or anything. I left the phone on the charger for two days and nights with no results. I ordered a battery but will not have it untill I get home in another week. I have Dutty's 6.1 5.2.19199 UC Compliant ROM on the phone and I've been using it for about 10 days now. Everything was working fine. The phone was getting warm during GPS useage and when charging. Right now I hope that its just the battery. But in case its not, I need to know what my options are. Is the phone dead? What other measures are there to bring it back to life? Thanks in advance.
I can say from my experience with a tytn and now a tytnII when you use them rigorously , they will get hot. I guess the real question is how hot is it really getting and what is running on the phone. Is it uncomfortable to hold?
On EDGE data with FlexMail and IM+ online, the phone stays ice cold. On HSDPA the same, it gets slightly warm. When talking on the phone with HSDPA, it gets a bit warmer.
When using GPS+iGO8 or TomTom, it gets rather warm. Add charging and it gets pretty hot. I've seen batterystatus show as high as 42C using internal GPS+iGO8+Charging.
Gets hot + doesn't charge from laptop
I've got a similar problem - Kaiser may get hot when being used as a modem and/or charging...., well I've actually had this going on from time to time and wasn't much concerned about it until now: the battery doesn't charge when connected to my laptop - ActiveSync or modem, the amber light doesn't come on, plus drains fast.
The Kaiser(so the battery) is only 3 mths old (although I use it heavily as a modem) and I guess it's unlikely that changing the battery will help here...
My kaiser gets warm too.. I guess it's because I'm hot.
Never mind
HR fixed it...
You also have to remember that these things have a 400mhz processor in them without any fan. Now when your using that processor to the fullest, it IS going to get warm. This is what your going to get from any high performance electronic item without a cooling fan. It's not unacceptable, it's the way it is. 3G, bluetooth, and WiFi can be very processor intensive depending on use, imagine all 3 on at the same time, not to mention the added heat from rapid battery discharge (which is unavoidable when using the radio).
The designers of the phone are no idiots, they designed systems that shut the phone off if it's going to get damaged. So if your worried about the heat cause it's uncomfortable, don't work the sucker so hard! ;-)
Hi to all and thanks for the replies;
My theory is that if you buy an expensive phone you need to exploit until the limit. I bought the kaiser because is a phone that can give me almost any kind of connection and I can be connect online almost everywhere. I can't stand that If I use the 3G connection for 10 minutes the phones gets so warm. I use battery status too and the temperature is like 42F after I use the phone for 10 minutes.
Hey, guys, I tried dong some research but I can't find anyone with a similar problem.
I've got a T-Mobile (USA) G1 and I've got Cyanogen's Eclair ROM flashed on it. Prior to flashing Cyanogen's ROM, I was using OpenEclair. OpenEclair was working [relatively] well until my phone randomly started shutting off. I thought it was a battery calibration problem, so I recalibrated my battery by letting it die completely and then charging it fully, but that didn't work. I flashed Cyanogen's Eclair and hoped that my problem would be fixed, but the problem still persists.
I can't really isolate the problem. My phone can shut off in the middle of a call, in the middle of writing a txt message, or without me even using it while it's in my pocket. It shuts off regardless of the battery level (I've seen it shut off at like 97%). This wouldn't be THAT bad except the phone refuses to turn on right after it shuts off. When I press the power button, the phone will show the G1 logo for a few seconds and then shut off again as if it was dead. Sometimes if I press the power button, the phone won't turn on and I'll see the LED flash red which gives me the idea that the phone "thinks" it's dead. In order for me to turn the phone back on, I need to plug in the charger. This is becoming extremely annoying.
Does anyone know what the problem could be? I would try wiping/re-flashing but I don't wanna lose all my data :/
Thanks,
Gerard
I'm having the same exact problem ever since installing cyanogen 5.0.7 Test 1... so im not sure whats going on but i went to T-Mobile today... and they said my battery is warped or somethin not to tech savy... yet it was working fine like totally so... hmmm anyone know anything?
yea this has happened to me too! It shuts off randomly then i cant turn it back on until like 30 minutes later without touching it. I noticed that it happened after i flashed a open eclair rom that wouldnt start but i did flash it correctly. I have wiped battery stats and dalvik cache. Well i hope we can get some answers
I had the same problem I have tried just about every rom out there so dont remember when it started but i ordered a new battery off ebay for 10 bucks and havent had a problem since
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I had the same problem I have tried just about every rom out there so dont remember when it started but i ordered a new battery off ebay for 10 bucks and havent had a problem since
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So you think it's a hardware problem? I find it kinda hard to believe that all of us coincidentally got this problem after installing Ecalir ROMs...unless Eclair destroys our battery somehow?
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yeah same here but mine started with Amon Ra 1.2.3 and the blue haze rom. I updated my recovery to the latest 1.6.2 I think and switched to htcclay's superfast and the danger spl slso tmobile is comping me a new battery just to be safe, although switching rom's seem's to have helped my battery life a little. hope this helps someone.
Have you tried replacing the battery?
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Have you tried replacing the battery?
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Nah, I'm part lazy and part unconvinced that it's a hardware issue. I mean if the phone reads that the battery is like 95% charged, why would it just give out randomly? I don't know much about hardware though, so maybe I'm wrong...
I want T-Mobile to get a new Android phone that's like incredible I want a new phone already damnit!!
im just gonna buy a battery on ebay or something because my battery does look kinda swollen so it could possibly be the battery. Gonna give it a try though
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im just gonna buy a battery on ebay or something because my battery does look kinda swollen so it could possibly be the battery. Gonna give it a try though
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You think you could update us when you find out whether it changes anything or not? :/
This phone gets me really frustrated because first it started shutting off and now i have a unresponsive lock screen! I push all the buttons and the screen is black like if its turned off. I have to do a battery pull but theres a risk of the phone not turning back on and shutting off on the g1 screen. I was planning to buy the battery today but i think im just going to use a different phone for now. I hope someone can really resolve this problem. Cant wait for the samsung galaxy s
For what it's worth, I started having the same issue last week with my G1. I think it's entirely coincidental that you switched to the CM 2.1 Test branch and your phone started getting screwy.
I looked at my battery as the first suspect, and what did I find when I pulled it out of the case? A badly swolen battery. By the end of the week, the swelling had gotten so bad that it was visibly bulging the plastic backing on my G1.
I took it to 3 separate T-Mobile stores looking for a replacement battery. The first two were of no luck, but the 3rd finally had one in stock. The CSR saw my battery and almost freaked out. She says I was lucky that it didn't pop because it was ready to at just about any moment.
Long story short, since replacing my battery, I have had ZERO issues, and my battery life has once again been phenomenal (well, for the G1).
I just checked my battery and I think it's possible that it's swollen. On the side where it says "htc Innovation," is it supposed to be perfectly flat? There's like a rectangle that's slightly raised above the rest of surface. I'm a little hesitant to buy a $50 battery if that's the way the battery is supposed to be.
Thanks,
Gerard
Spontaneous power off - sunspots?
Yes, this happened to me fairly frequently about 3 months ago. Now it happens (maybe) once a week.
In my experience, it isn't a Cyanogen issue - it would spontaneous die when I used Enomther's official rom, SuperD (one of the previous versions), and some others. That made me think it was hardware, but ... I haven't changed hardware, and still drop the G1 into my pocket like usual.
So if it isn't ROM software and it isn't hardware, what is it - sunspots?
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I just checked my battery and I think it's possible that it's swollen. On the side where it says "htc Innovation," is it supposed to be perfectly flat? There's like a rectangle that's slightly raised above the rest of surface. I'm a little hesitant to buy a $50 battery if that's the way the battery is supposed to be.
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Gerard
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It should be perfectly flat. A new, good battery does not have the bulging rectangle in the middle you are talking about. Mine did the same thing. In fact, both sides were swelling. The battery would no longer sit flush in the back. My theory was simply that some sort of movement was causing it to lose contact and shutting off the phone.
If you take the battery out and lay it flat the table, you shouldn't be able to rock it by pressing an edge. If you can, your battery is dying.
I just bought a battery yesterday on amazon for 15$ You should check it out. Hope this battery resolves my problem. I also fixed my lock screen issue. I had set cpu to 120 instead of 128 so it unresponsive.
I have the same problem, and indeed when i now look at it my battery seems a bit swollen. I ordered a replacement battery on dealextreme. They have a few different battery replacements for the G1 for cheap (and lots of other things, regular customer) with free shipping. So i hope that will fix my problem .
I found this thread because I've been having random shutoffs as if the battery were pulled (black screen immediately, no "Shutting Down" prompt first), and it would only do this when NOT charging. This started happening when I first ran Firerat's all-in-one script but I think it was coincidental. So anyways, I found this thread after wanting to pull my hair out because of the random shutoffs, and sure enough, I pulled my battery and it's a bit puffed out. Time for a new battery.
My question is : does anyone think this is a result of the extra strain placed on the battery / heat generated from being overclocked? Once I get a new battery, I'd like to prevent it from happening in the future.
definately a battery problem. had the same thing on my g1. got into a whole big argument about how it WAS NOT PHONE in the cyanogen6 thread. guess what....it was my phone.
its not the rom. its your phone. seriously.
also, just to point out, most of us here got our phones relatively early in its release, and lot of people are having this problem now apparently. battery has life of 2yrs by my calculations.
if you can mimic a reboot with the phone plugged into usb or wall charger...it may be rom. but if you phone DOES NOT DIE while PLUGGED IN...ITS YOUR BATTERY.
Had the same problem with my 2008 bought g1, swollen battery and random shutdowns. Just inserted an new bought battery. Hope it fixes the problem.
Hello everybody!
My friend is a "happy" owner of HTC HD 7. He is very happy with it and like W7 and stuff (I'm more android person, but it doesn't matter ). This morning after disconnecting the phone from the charger, he realised that the bottom part of the phone is very hot. He knows that after charging the phone is warmer then normal, so he ignored it and he put the phone into his pocket. After some time, the temperature of that bottom half didn't change which made it uncomfortable to carry it in the pocket. He has also noticed that the battery was discharging very fast, faster then normal. He checked if the battery is warm, but it wasn't. He decided to turn it of and back on again, few times so maybe it would could down, but each time it was turning off and on it was heating up even more. Furthermore, texting and browsing became impossible as sometimes the touch screen doesn't react. He also has noticed that when he is using the phone, the speaker is emitting weird crackling noises. Any suggestions?
Sorry that its a bit long, but its a direct translation of what he send me
any phone can heat up but in most cases the memory card is the cause. as a matter of fact HD7 does not really have an internal memory despite what most of people think, it's maybe because of how much the memory is being used. so i suggest your friend to hard reset his device!
have a nice day!
I suggested that my self. He said that he done it many times and it didn't help.
if i had his problem, i would flash another rom to find out if it is because of the hardware or software....although it seems a hardware problem to me. but i was in his shoes... i made sure that i can't do anything more before i take my phone to a repairman!
He has flashed new software and it still overheating. Now he is looking for the receipt
Hello,
Been a while since i was on XDA because i chose a good enough rom and never had to back again. I've used android for quite a while. My first android phone ever was a HTC Tattoo. This is like my 7th android phone now and i've modded every phone i ever had with a custom rom because the stock ones were full of stupid additions that just took up space for no reason. I've encountered many issues along the way and solved most of em. But here is another issue i just cannot fix no matter how hard i try.
I have a regular Xperia Z1 c6903 and i've used it for quite a while. Played Hearthstone alot on it even tho it did make the phone feel like a radiator. After time, the back glass started loosening up bit by bit. I think it has something to do with the glue loosening because of the constant heat of me playing Hearthstone. Didn't worry about it too much, until i started having these weird battery issues. The phone started dying on weird percentages, jumping from 14% to instant 0% and shutdown. I've encountered this issue before on other phones and it just happened to be a software issue where reinstalling the rom or installing another would fix the issue.
I tried this on this phone multiple times. Worked once. Then it came back. Tried even installing the stock firmware again so its in factory settings even tho i didnt relock the bootloader. Issue didnt get fixed. Tried switching to a kitkat stock firmware, didnt work. Tried installing another custom firmware, didnt work. So i reverted back to the rom that i found worked best for me despite the battery issues, DStrikerZ1 Kai.
The issue just got worse. It started dying on 30% and just went higher and higher each time. Then it kept dying on like 64% or so each time. At this point, every time i charged it it just jumped from 1% to like 54% in less than a minute. I charged it each time while it was off. I didnt turn it on to then charge it.
2 days ago, it died on exactly 84%. It's at this point i was looking into options because i cant have a phone that charges only to what it THINKS it 100% and then stops charging to just die then at 84% while discharging per percentage at a normal rate.
Next day, the battery and the back glass i ordered arrived. There was one issue tho which i realized much later, the battery i got was too fat. Mostly on the lower part of it. I was able to plug the battery in but i couldnt put on the back glass entirely because the battery is too fat. So i put it on as much as i could and just taped it around with white tape around the phone but above and below the screen so it doesnt block it. Also cut out what was needed with a scalpel so sound and camera arent blocked. While trying to replace the battery, i think i may have accidentally pulled a little bit on the back camera so it popped out just a tiny bit. Pushed it back in and it looks fine. Although now i can't launch my camera app and it crashes each time. Dont use it much anyway so not a big loss for me.
Here is the result of this new battery:
It works. Although i still have the battery percentage issues. But it charges a bit differently now and discharges differently. NOT CORRECTLY STILL. 1 hour ago i put on charging because it died outside again at a wrong percentage. Was like 60%, dont remember. I turn it on again and while its turning itself on, i plug it into the charger. It says 52%. So i launch Pokemon GO and run it for about a minute. Then it dies again. Then i turn it on again and NOW its on 1% and it starts charging what i THINK is normally. 20 minutes later after charging, i check it and its on 11%. Then the really weird thing happens. As im watching the percentage go up, it goes from 11% to 15% in a matter of seconds as if it went up by 1% per second. It's been 1 hour now and its on 27%. One thing that i think is just a coincidence but i have no idea, it died like 6 times only while Pokemon GO was running.
I seriously don't know what to do. I don't know if the issue isnt with the battery but the phone itself, or if it just needs a bit calibration. But you can't use a phone reliably if you cant know when it needs recharging. I can't buy a new phone for at least 2 more months. I have a Galaxy S2 somewhere that i can use in the meantime but its cracked a bit and the top left part of the glass just above the display is just gone. Taped over it to keep it covered. But it'll get the job done in the meantime.
I know i should have made a book about this. I did write alot. But i feel people will be able the help me if they know exactly every detail.
What does the community of XDA have to say about what i should do or try?
Thank you in advance!
Sounds like you got a damaged or used battery that is bad. It has dead cells in it thus the voltage and percent drop. Besides that original Sony 3000mAh battery will fit perfectly and look exactly like replaced original battery (bar it can have different text/icon layout on white sticker).
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Sounds llike you got a damaged or used battery that is bad. It has dead cells in it thus the voltage and percent drop. Besides that original Sony 3000mAh battery will fit perfectly and look exactly like replaced original battery (bar it can have different text/icon layout on white sticker).
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The one i got by mail actually is also the original Sony 3000mAh battery. I did the comparison and it does look exactly the same with only the sticker being a tiny bit different in what exact code it had on it. But this one was thicker on the bottom part of the battery. I'll just order another one then i guess...
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The one i got by mail actually is also the original Sony 3000mAh battery. I did the comparison and it does look exactly the same with only the sticker being a tiny bit different in what exact code it had on it. But this one was thicker on the bottom part of the battery. I'll just order another one then i guess...
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But if it is thicker then it is a used one that has swollen cells in it due to dendrite which makes cells go bad and ultimately shortcut the cell(s) resulting in sudden drops in voltage thus the percentage jumps down or goes directly to 0 depeding on severity.
Return the battery and get a new one and make sure it is original. When you get it weight it and compare with the old one. IIRC battery should weight about 42-43 grams. On the sticker you see 2 numbers with a W inbetween. First is year it is produced and second is the week eg 13W32 which means 2013, week 32.
I suggest you order from Teknikdelar.se (since you live in Sweden) which has original Sony batteries and they are new, fresh ones. Avoid anyone selling batteries without "original Sony" inserted into description.
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But if it is thicker then it is a used one that has swollen cells in it due to dendrite which makes cells go bad and ultimately shortcut the cell(s) resulting in sudden drops in voltage thus the percentage jumps down or goes directly to 0 depeding on severity.
Return the battery and get a new one and make sure it is original. When you get it weight it and compare with the old one. IIRC battery should weight about 42-43 grams. On the sticker you see 2 numbers with a W inbetween. First is year it is produced and second is the week eg 13W32 which means 2013, week 32.
I suggest you order from Teknikdelar.se (since you live in Sweden) which has original Sony batteries and they are new, fresh ones. Avoid anyone selling batteries without "original Sony" inserted into description.
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This actually now makes a whole lot sense. It is kind of swollen as if its been used up. I will order a new one as soon as i can from the website you linked. Appreciate the help! :victory: :laugh: