Is there anyway to auto download Quickgps data when you launch a specific gps app - this could really speed up the gps lock time! I cant get AGPS to work on mine as im not AT&T!
not that i know of, however you can write a mortscript to do it.
What rom are you using, try Da_G's 6.5 rom, i get a lock within 5 seconds with AGPS on, and quick gps data a few days old with google maps and telemap navigator. It might be the drivers and rom. The network your on doesn't have anything to do it with gps, unless you got agps on, even then the difference is small. try turning off agps.
cheers for the response im using energy rom 3 the june 13 th i have agps turned off as i cant get any of the supl servers to work as im in canada! im using .14.35 radio and it is a lot better for gps fix probably takes 2 to 3 mins from cold 30 secsif i use quickgps hence my request
cheers for your help
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Hi all,
I try to search for such issue but no success.
So, quickGPS/GPS is working fine but need to d/l data from time to time. Pb is, when data are outdated and I have no way to upload new ones, my GPS won't get any fix at all. I can no longer use my GPS
Is this normal, do I need to deactive something (even if the fix takes longer) ??
Thanks for hints,
Gilles
Search for "Kaiser Tweak". If I recall correctly, there is a setting in there to fix broken QuickGPS settings that allows it to update properly.
Should then be able to get QuickGPS working leading to GPS working more efficiently...
QuickGPS updates work with no problem.
The problem is that you need "phone" connection for the update. Eg, I'm doing a trekking in the mountain, I'll never have the cell phone connection to update quickGPS data.
I need to use the GPS as standalone tools even with no phone connection
Question is : Can the Kaiser's GPS work if quickGPS data are outdated ? how ?
GPS works fine as a stand alone unit. It can take longer time to get your position when you use GPS without the fast GPS but it still works.
Yep I'm sure it will work if quickGPS is not installed. In my case quick GPS is installed, and when it's up to date I get the fix in few sec.
When it's not, I've waited more than 5mn with no results ... then I started to download quickGPS data and hop fix in few sec.
For me it's like that if quickGPS is not up to date it disables the GPS. Am I wrong ?
Is there a way to temporarly disable quickGPS ? at least I would get a fix even if it takes longers.
I finally upgraded to the long anticipated windows 6.1 rom for tilt. And now im having issues with my gps. I have tomtom6 and gps today for faster identifying my position. But since I upgraded, now when I turn on gps today and even tomtom it cant get my position anymore. When I checked tomtom satellite finder, it found some satellites but it never turned blue when the gps is locked. I need help to get my gps working again. Any help would be great.
I had this problem too after i upgraded to 6.1. Some people suggested to install GPS Test. It's a very simple but effective tool for acquiring a GPS fix. Whenever im not getting a fix i start this tool and normally it gets me a fix within 1 - 2 minutes. After this, as long as you dont soft reset your device, all your GPS programs should get a fix immediately.
http://pda.wareseeker.com/Travel/gps-test-1.04.zip/321576
Thanks! ill give it a try and ill update ASAP
Unfortenatly, aGPS is not activated by default. Search for the program called Advanced Cofiguration, and install that. There you can activate aGPS - and after that, you will normally get a gps link within 5-10 seconds...
i checked and gps is enabled
Noob007 said:
Unfortenatly, aGPS is not activated by default. Search for the program called Advanced Cofiguration, and install that. There you can activate aGPS - and after that, you will normally get a gps link within 5-10 seconds...
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yeah ... only if AGPS ... works( .... I don't know what to say about this but for some kaisers and roms this is a complete mistery.
Now please no groaning when you see this topic. I know the GPS has been hammered to death on these forums; this post is my vein attempt to see if one particular area of interest of mine has at all moved forward.
(let's also side-step the whole "does your GPS lag?" issue here too!)
(..and, for clarify, I'm referring to AGPS as in the use of the mobile phone network to 'assist' positioning by use of triangulation in areas of poor/no GPS reception, and NOT the use of QuickGPS to download current sat. info in an attempt to get a quicker initial fix)
I used to use TomTom Navigator v7.450; it worked (of a fashion! ) although one specific thing that never worked was that whenever AGPS was enabled (using AdvancedConfig or similar) TomTom would get a signal and then immediately drop it again.. on/off on/off etc.. the fix being to disable AGPS.
I must admit I'm suspicious about HTC having their stock ROMs with AGPS disabled by default - especially as this was initially a 'selling point' of the device and part of the sales blurb ("not only does it have GPS but really good GPS using AGPS".. oh the irony!) - have they themselves ever got it to work?!?!
Now TomTom Navigator v7.910 is out (have just installed it myself, currently waiting for an updated map to download). I have seen it muted that this now works with AGPS on the Diamond or maybe the Pro (ie. someone reports the above bug, yet claims it now works having moved to v7.910). Can anyone else confirm this? More importantly, can anyone confirm AGPS has given the Diamond any GPS-related benefit what-so-ever?? (ie. great if it doesn't stop TomTom working anymore, but does it actually improve it like it should?).
I'll of course try it out myself later today or over the weekend and report back.
Hope this makes sense.. cheers.
just tried TomTom 7.910 (9185) with AGPS enabled, and cant say i noticed much difference.
seems the same now with it enable or dissabled. Cant be sure tho, havent done a long journey yet.
Will update later/tomorrow.
mugglesquop said:
just tried TomTom 7.910 (9185) with AGPS enabled, and cant say i noticed much difference.
seems the same now with it enable or disabled. Cant be sure tho, haven't done a long journey yet.
Will update later/tomorrow.
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Thanks for taking the time etc.
Interesting, because..
I've just taken a wonder outside and found I'm still getting the signal constantly being lost bug (looking at the screen that shows the sat. bars I have a good signal for a few seconds, then this goes and 'No GPS device' is displayed, then good signal back again and so on).
On this Diamond I'm using ROM 1.93.401.2 the the supplied radio (1.0.25.05), as I suspected this 'improvement' (potentially) noticed by you/others is more likely a result of a ROM/radio update and not a TomTom software update (guessing this AGPS bug isn't the first thing you try after flashing is it?).
Hmm..
nb. I'm using the exact same version/build of TomTom as you
hmmm... yeh, i'm going on a 60+ mile journey later, so will have a play.
Using Dutty's 3.4 ROM and Radio is BS14...
I thought that the whole point of AGPS is so you could help you get a GPS fix when indoors. Which I always thought was an unusual selling point when the entire purpose of GPS software is to help you find your way in the outdoors. Perhaps it could be more useful for those new tagging services that are popping up.
Anyhow I've been running a fairly recent version of iGo8 using Dutty's Rom 3.3 and 3.4 (both with that new radio).
With AGPS turned off, GPS signal is quickly attained and holds strong outdoors. Nothing indoors, naturally.
With AGPS turned on (via Duttys "AGPS Settings" utility), GPS signal is as quickly attained and flickers fully on then fully off, repeating constantly. When indoors, nothing at all.
So, with iGo8, AGPS seems to be a non-runner.
By the way, I once read that AGPS has to be configured to your particular mobile provider. Perhaps that's the issue?
Same here, with a-gps enabled signal drops constantly
after my journey yesterday, had the same problems as above.
tried with TomTom 7 and iGo8
I've never had any problems with GPS apart from slow getting a moving fix when the unit is physically very hot.
The main benefit of AGPS for me is that you can get your location on Google Maps within 1500m or so without enabling GPS.
It also proves A-GPS works.
ben cole said:
I've never had any problems with GPS apart from slow getting a moving fix when the unit is physically very hot.
The main benefit of AGPS for me is that you can get your location on Google Maps within 1500m or so without enabling GPS.
It also proves A-GPS works.
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Hmm, I think this is thanks to googles effort, not AGPS... Google uses Google Gears API which can position you by using basestations and SSIDs.
AGPS is correcting/updating the GPS data with actual almanac data sent from you mobile provider...
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Same here, with a-gps enabled signal drops constantly
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Same for me, anyone being able to use TomTom and AGPS without losing signal periodically?
ben cole said:
I've never had any problems with GPS apart from slow getting a moving fix when the unit is physically very hot.
The main benefit of AGPS for me is that you can get your location on Google Maps within 1500m or so without enabling GPS.
It also proves A-GPS works.
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Yeah Google Maps does this on its own without having AGPS enabled on the Diamond. I believe AGPS is supposed to be more accurate than 1000m - 1500m though.
Oh and I believe the way that Google Maps gets its position depends on your mobile provider. I used to get the message "your location is not available" constantly on my network but one day (simultaneously as the iPhone was released in my country), the location was available. So I believe that the network flicked a switch for this technology to work.
AGps and TomTom
Hi,
agps have need to run to:
1) Carrier to inform MobilePhone here is (Is a Base Station Issue)
2) Public information about position
On mobilephone if is enable i think is need to have different information, and tomtom have old pattern to process agps information.
With googlemaps have new process and can use.
With my diamond agps run (googlemaps)
Cityhunter71
Please, don't mix the Google technology and A-GPS. They have nothing in common.
Google maintains their own privately held database of GSM-cellids which GMM can query to determine your position based on the current cellid.
A-GPS is a technology where the GSM-basestation itself receives GPS-satellitedata and relays it to the device. With this additional data, the GPS-receiver in the device is supposed to achieve a faster fix.
Have fun!
a-gps works with 7.450
i remember once that it was taking forever for the satelites to be found yet is was updating my postion on the map constantly via a-gps (which im sure was enabled by default in stock rom as ive never changed it)
a-gps is useful inside because you usually have your phone with you and to find a route, you need gps
Apologies for my erroneous post.
I realised my error today when I installed Google Maps on an ageing Blackberry I had unlocked to play with.
Started it up and lo and behold there was my location....thought I'd better head back here to suffer my shame ...LOL
Thanks for the input guys.
So - in summary:
Even with later ROMS / radios / software applications, there is still yet to be seen any benefit from the Diamond (theoretically) having an A-GPS capability.
RUBBISH!!
I personally subscribe to the theory that there is a missing link between the A-GPS driver type software and an info feed from the likes of the network operator, ie. it's all very well it picking up info on the network but without a back-end database to translate this it's useless.
As far as purpose goes.. I personally think A-GPS sounds on paper to be a great idea. Not a replacement for GPS, nor to be used exclusively indoors, but a good aid/starting point. For example, if I'm sitting in an unfamiliar office in London and wanted to use TomTom to navigate me a route to where I want to get to, A-GPS could provide TomTom with a rough starting point. Similarly, I often find myself launch a nav program (when I'm lost!) and standing there for up to 5 mins waiting for a fix.. at least this would give me an approximation from which I could probably work out myself where I was from looking around me. In my mind when you first fire up TomTom on the Diamond A-GPS should simply put you in the right postcode and start doing its stuff while the GPS seeks out its signal, and not still show me as being either at Home or its last known destination. But in any event - it seems not to work!! Bugger!!
I thought that aGPS was also to help hold a GPS signal when in tunnels, canyons, heavy forest cover (ie.Redwoods in this area, many tower to well over 300 feet!) or any situation where the signal from the satellites may be impaired, or even blocked completely.
Im running Duttys 3.5 and with AGPS on I will get a signal for 10 seconds, then it goes for a second, then back for 10. then gone. Turned AGPS off and all is well.
I can confirm that AGPS does work, some parts here in Finland it works and someplaces it does that on off thingy. once when I was just playing with my tomtom it got signal where it would never get it without it. but mostly here it doesnt work properly so i disable it.
But in Helsinki (larger city) it works properly and helps getting signal fast beneath tall buildings.
But yeah it doesnt work in my hometown so its kinda rubbish here.
Maybe it has something to do with how new are nearby cell towers or something. dunno
In Trondheim, Norway it worked with Telenor and gave me a signal indoors, but when I use it together with TomTom the signal gets lost periodicly, really really annoying since "everything" is already there. Probably just something with the co-operation with the regular GPS or something?
I think i got it to run.
I use tt7.910 on diamond with htc 1.93 dutch rom
My mobile provider is mobistar.
I can get a lock inside, tough it's slow(ie not as fast as outside).
When I fire up tt7 the almanac data is showing in the satelite screen.
reg settings are:
Code:
GPRSConnection: Orange World
GpsMode: 4
Network: Orange World
ServerIP: 194.51.71.138
ServerPort: 7275
ServerUrl: agps.orange.fr
got my pro the other day... and I have garmin loaded up, and its not finding a signal so I have spent most of my day reading all posts I can find relating to the GPS, I have used the GPS viewer and it finds the GPS and once it starts I can see it will not acquire my location I could leave it for 15 mins or so and it wont lock on, google maps will not work, nor with garmin, I have tried changing the ports from 4 to 1 and others but nothing seems to work.
does any one else have this issue, and have they over come it if so how i want to use my GPS...
thanks
set your band rate to 9600
still no good.
tried the GPS viewer google maps and Garmin again...
I have similar problem and what I did is to flash new radio. Currently, I am using 1.02.25.28 radio and seems like the GPS works fine now. It can lock on less then 1 minute in one space but the signal strength is vary from low to high quite fast (not stable).
I tried to navigate with this radio and turned out to be better than the original radio shipped with the unit. But, even with this radio, my old Kaiser GPS still performs better. When I use Kaiser, GPS lock in less than 10 seconds in open space.
BTW, the GPS software is Garmin Mobile XT.
Radio ROMS
Check this link out for various Radio ROMS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566
And this for flashing details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
I had the same problem, and I dont know if it is the same problem you are having but check your settings/personal/phone/services/location setting and turn on location setting and all my gps was working again.
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I had the same problem, and I dont know if it is the same problem you are having but check your settings/personal/phone/services/location setting and turn on location setting and all my gps was working again.
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your explanation doesn't make sense at all
when i go to phone/services there is no such thing as location setting.
it lists my phone services such as call barring, caller Id, etc...
i'm using Chartcross GPS test 1.04 and set my com to 4 baud to 38400 and it is not working. Google Maps says no gps found.
i am on a stock AT&T Fuze rom... just got the phone yesterday
I also installed HTC GPS tool and those symbols and number mean nothing to me.
no real manual on how to use it unless you're technically saavy and have programming background
i also disabled AGPS like it is recommended all over this site.
*update*
my gps works now
uninstalled HTC GPS tool
also took out blackberry connect software. it seemed to be lagging my phone in general
liquidchrome said:
*update*
my gps works now
uninstalled HTC GPS tool
also took out blackberry connect software. it seemed to be lagging my phone in general
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yeah I find this to be the fastest fix. I run gpstoday, open port for gps using gpstoolpro take the step to set up gpstoday once your fix is established I set up my gpstoday app to search every 5 minute rather then staying connected due to battery. When I am ready to use my gps I load up quickGPS have it a establish a fix( average of 15 sec I have been testing it for a week and have gotten good results instants fix to a 15 second wait).once I establish a fix I load up my navigation app. a tip is to be outside or near a window when trying to find a fix. Keeping the port open does not drain the battery.
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yeah I find this to be the fastest fix. I run gpstoday, open port for gps using gpstoolpro take the step to set up gpstoday once your fix is established I set up my gpstoday app to search every 5 minute rather then staying connected due to battery. When I am ready to use my gps I load up quickGPS have it a establish a fix( average of 15 sec I have been testing it for a week and have gotten good results instants fix to a 15 second wait).once I establish a fix I load up my navigation app. a tip is to be outside or near a window when trying to find a fix. Keeping the port open does not drain the battery.
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Um im running the stock at&t rom on my fuze and my tilt (but the tilt is upgraded to 6.1 by att) but um you almost had it right the answer was in the forum but mixed into a few posts. Ok so when you go to google maps click menu then click Options then gps settings and go to manual then choose com : 4 then use 9600 and bam it works on both the tilt and the fuze with stock rom's.
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Um im running the stock at&t rom on my fuze and my tilt (but the tilt is upgraded to 6.1 by att) but um you almost had it right the answer was in the forum but mixed into a few posts. Ok so when you go to google maps click menu then click Options then gps settings and go to manual then choose com : 4 then use 9600 and bam it works on both the tilt and the fuze with stock rom's.
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no i didnt miss it. I have tried that aswell but I guess its what ever works
Hi,
I have a unbranded normal HTC Touch Diamond with the NAKED 2.03 ROM and RADIO 23.
Moreover I use Tomtom7 and Google Maps.
When in GMaps, the Assisted GPS (which is switched of in Advanced Config) gives the approximate position to Google Maps and after 1-2 Minutes I get a GPS fix on top. In tomtom however, there is not even a approximate location based on the GSM even if I turn A-GPS on. Moreover, GPS doenot work if A-GPS is turned on.
So I wanted to try QuickGPS to reduce the time of the fix (now about 2 Minutes), but it was not included in the Naked ROM I am using, and after browsing for two weeks, and trying some QuickGPS.cab files, they never run but only tell something of not being certified.
Even after reading the 100 pages of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427888 I still havent been able to fina working version (CAB) of QuickGPS to install on the Diamond and have not found a solution working for others, or did someone succeed in installing it??
Thanks
playagiron said:
Hi,
I have a unbranded normal HTC Touch Diamond with the NAKED 2.03 ROM and RADIO 23.
Moreover I use Tomtom7 and Google Maps.
When in GMaps, the Assisted GPS (which is switched of in Advanced Config) gives the approximate position to Google Maps and after 1-2 Minutes I get a GPS fix on top. In tomtom however, there is not even a approximate location based on the GSM even if I turn A-GPS on. Moreover, GPS doenot work if A-GPS is turned on.
So I wanted to try QuickGPS to reduce the time of the fix (now about 2 Minutes), but it was not included in the Naked ROM I am using, and after browsing for two weeks, and trying some QuickGPS.cab files, they never run but only tell something of not being certified.
Even after reading the 100 pages of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427888 I still havent been able to fina working version (CAB) of QuickGPS to install on the Diamond and have not found a solution working for others, or did someone succeed in installing it??
Thanks
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I have never had a problem with QuickGPS. But then again, I've always used cooked ROMS. Perhaps this is what you have to do...
As one last suggestion, all QuickGPS does is add the attached file to your Windows folder. You could try to add it directly from http://service.mio-tech.com/eeservice/packedephemeris.ee.