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I hestitate to start a new thread to ask this, but I just spent 5 hours reading the Wizard forums and didn't find anything useful. So here goes . . .
I recently upgraded to Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU22_Basic
(thanks, summiter). I'm happy with everything except the behavior of the password protection.
With the original ROM, I had it set (and don't remember what setting did it) so that I would only be prompted for a password when the device was coming out of standby mode (i.e. when I press the power button to turn the screen back on). Most of the time, I would put the device in "protected mode" by manually pressing the power button, but I also had "turn off after 5 minutes when running on battery" set, so if I left it sitting somewhere, it would go into "protected mode" in a few minutes.
With the new ROM, I've tried setting the "prompt if device unused for" setting to "0 minutes" (the setting I seem to recall I had used with the old ROM), which DOES cause the device to prompt for a password whenever I turn it on, but it also causes the password prompt to appear after 1 minute of idle time. If I use a longer setting, then I don't get the password prompt while the device is on, but when I turned off, and back on again, it doesn't prompt for a password.
I'm not dealing with a high security situation here. I just want a simple way to keep my kids and other prying eyes from accessing the PDA function, with a way for me to force it into locked mode, and some kind of time out for when I set the phone down and forget to lock it.
Is there a way to change my current ROM to get the old behavior? Is there some other program I should use instead of the one built-in to the OS?
Thanks.
Seconding this request. I've been looking for a solution to the same problem.
The password behaviour in the AKU2 ROMs are a real PITA - especially if you use SatNav without first switching off the password protection.
Unfortunately this is down to the implemenation by Microsoft so don't hold your breath for this to be "fixed".
Here's my solution so far:
I bought a copy of Pocket Secure 3.0 for $14
Website: http://www.TotalPocketPC.com
Support: http://www.4winmobile.com/-pocket-secure-support-vf25.html
I associated the progam with the Press and Hold voice button (I don't use voice recording), so when I want to force lock the phone, I just press and hold the button.
Using this program, I've left Media Player and/or TCPMP running in the background, "locked" the phone, and then carried it around in my case without any problems.
The "lock screen" displays battery level and a nice big clock. Since I don't wear a watch, 50% or more of the time, when I'm turning my phone "on" (i.e. switch out of standby mode), it's just to see what time it is.
question, i've got a 6515 and it keeps powering itself on. when i turn it off (with the on switch), it automatically powers on after a few minutes. this drains my battery within 18 hours since the pda function is activated (back light and screen comes on). it keeps powering on automatically every time i turn it off. i disabled all connectivity (no sim present, bluetooth of. so both are disabled). i disabled the gps download applet, so it cannot automatically download. i disabled the active sync setting (After setting it to manually and unchecked all the peaktime settings). i also tried to reflash my current rom (the latest), but it keeps powering on? i also took out all the memory cards and there are no third party applications installed (just did a hard reset). any help is appreciated, or else i will throw the thing out of the window (then i know for sure it will never turn on again)!
mine did the same thing for a while and it was related to activesync and blutooth ativesync. no idea what fixed it tho. sorry
Disable Hardware Buttons
Have you tried to disable the hardware buttons to see if it maybe a button that is getting pressed. To disable them hit Start, goto Settings, tap Buttons, tap the Lock tab, then put a check in the "Disable all buttons except power button" box.
Hai
it would seem that if i have windows media player streaming a file over wifi from the intarweb and i press the wpoer button to sleep the device, it kills the wifi conn - any workarounds for this?
also sometimes when im using the htc home plugin music bit and i press the power button it kills the backend media player process :s
is anyone else having these problems - im sure theres a setting somewhere for it im just too noob to find it
edit: in fact it seems to kill the wifi conn when it goes to sleep by itself too
When you press Power button, you are puting the phone in suspend mode. you need to turn off only the screen, than all the proceses will keep runing. I do it with AEButtonPlus, that alow you to assign a button to this option, and much more...
really? that doesnt seem to make sense - i was using the media player last night through the htchome music plugin over my bluetooth stereo headset, pressed the power button to turn off the screen and everything kept running as i had expected it to - i guess it handles bluetooth differently than wifi?
i intend to have this sitting on my desk at work with apps with network connections persistently open, does that mean ive got to disable the auto-suspend feature in order to achieve this? was kinda hoping it would just power off the screen after a while and any other bits it wasnt using (maybe lower efficiency for better power consumption in places ie wifi) - not kill everything dead
it seems to me to be intermittent when it comes to pressing the power button shutting down the media player tho so hmm :S
When you turn off (suspend) your device the WiFi connection is automatically stopped, which is good, considering the power consumption... imagine you would forget it on for 2h...
shayd was right, you can turn off the screen (different from pressing power) with different programs, which would keep your WiFi going. it's like monitor off on pc, and stand-by on PC
when you pressing power button it is not "killing" all the apps that is running, only suspending the proceses of those apps. when you press power button again, it will resume all the proceses of the runnig apps.
I think you're wrong on this one... it tells the programs that system is in stand-by mode, but programs act the way they want... they can still run.
is it only the wifi it kills when it goes into suspend? what about gprs/gsm/etc? surely it doesnt turn off the phone when its suspended
it doesnt seem to stop any running processes if goes into suspend mode - it only seems to intermittently kill the background media player process (when run through the htchome plugin) when i manually press the power button - ie sometimes itll keep playing, other times itll die
the wifi does dies whether it goes into standby manually or automatically though - ill check out that aebuttonplus, cheers
ok, the only thing that matters here is that suspend (manual and auto) kills WiFi
the reason sometimes it plays a little, and then stops is that it has buffered something before WiFi goes down
what you want is a way to turn off the screen, but not go in suspend mode... i'm sure you can find something smaller than AEButtonPlus for that
oh, and be carefull: when shuting down screen, the hardware buttons are NOT LOCKED (i'm 99% sure the touchscreen is disabled, so no problem there)
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I think you're wrong on this one... it tells the programs that system is in stand-by mode, but programs act the way they want... they can still run.
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You right, the programs are still runing. but they are suspending the proceses.
like if you are connected to pc via activesync, when you suspend the phone by P button, you are "killing" the sync proces, but activesync will still run. same with gps apps and so on. of course some poceses (system) can not been stoped.
shayd said:
You right, the programs are still runing. but they are suspending the proceses.
like if you are connected to pc via activesync, when you suspend the phone by P button, you are "killing" the sync proces, but activesync will still run. same with gps apps and so on. of course some poceses (system) can not been stoped.
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If you wanna get into it:
I could be wrong, but i think the system sends a WM_SYSTEM_SUSPEND (or something similar) message to all apps running, so each app does what it wants (some ignore it and run, some stop displaying stuff but still compute, play music and some stop everything, depending on their purpose)
examples:
- app that gets mail ignores the message or stops displaying stuff
- app that plays music keeps playing but no visualization
- app for im still gets messages but no visualization
(those are true assuming programmers that made those apps did a good job for power saving - maybe system stops displaying anyway, even if apps don't)
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your "spam" is making sense to me. and maybe there is a way to force some apps to ignore that command (or what ever it is).
i see ye that makes sense - alot like win32 - i really need to read the wm6 sdk
Oh, i just saw that BatteryStatus also has screen off in tray icons, and i find it useful anyway, so maybe give it a try(search forum for latest version)
Phone / MP3 Player in My Pocket
With the availability of 6GB, and soon bigger microSD cards, we can now reasonably use our Tilts as true MP3 players and discard our IPods.
I for one would like a solution, I hope to use my Tilt while Skiing this season. The Tilt will be in my jacket pocket and I will be using a Bluetooth Stereo Headset. However, if we cannot lock the phone while it is in our pocket, then we will be unable to use it in this fashion.
I for one do not have the knowledge to fix this problem, but am hoping one of the bright coders here will find a solution for me and others.
The gps is also turned off when the device is suspended.
I've just started using s2u2. (the newer low mem version of the popular slide to unlock.)
This has the advantage of being assignable to a key, can turn off the screen and lock the device all in one go.
pjam
I've found that you can still have the device in standby and listen to audio if either of the following are true:
- you are using a headset connected to the miniUSB connection
- you are using an A2DP stereo headset and press the button the corresponds to controlling start/stop of the audio after you put the device in standby. In my case, this works fine with my Plantronics 590.
This topic is dead a long time ago, but I found it, and still got confused ...
What drive me crazy is that: my Hermes (8525) still keeps wifi on even when the power is off (I dont use any kind of Tweak, just flash a cooked ROM, I tried w/ 2 different ROM). But my Kaiser doesn't!
I have searched, but I have been unable to find a solution to my problem.
During my searches, I have discovered that many people, like myself, often struggle finding and pressing the power button to turn on and off the screen/phone.
I current use S2U2, which is a great piece of software, and even better since it is free. I use S2U2 to wake my phone up. I have set my settings to not lock the phone when device is off so to unlock/wake my phone I simply press any of the hardware buttons, and I see the S2U2 screen.
However, turning the screen off/putting it in standby is more of a hassle since I have to try and track down the tiny power button. I have downloaded and tried several free remapping programs but none of them allow me to remap a hardware button to standby/lock the phone. Generally, they only allow me to remap a hardware button to a program or setting other than standby/lock.
I would like to know if there was a way to remap a button to put the phone in standby.
I use BlackMe , more info on the website...
You could also try putting some "puffy" paint on the power button. It's that 3D paint people put on shirts etc. that bulges up when it dries. It makes a nice little bead to hit rather than trying to press the little power button.
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I use BlackMe , more info on the website...
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Does this program put the Tilt into SLEEP/STANDBY or just blank the screen. The author does not make this clear.
it just blanks the screen. I will keep up with this thread though, I have always wanted my PTT button to be my power button.....
yeah, me too. I am surprised that there isn't a solution yet....
I've always hated the hard to find power button as well. The PTT button is so easy to find and press, yet I've never, ever, not once accidentally pressed it. Why can't the power button be as raised up as the PTT one? I've seriously considered taking my phone apart and machining a replacement power button that stuck out farther. I'd probably make it out of aluminum to make it look cool, too.
But I'd be plenty happy in the mean time with remapping my PTT button to be a power button...
Yeah, I don't even need all the power button powers... I know the power button is used to do other things other than turn the screen on and off... I just want to use another button to turn the screen on and off and suspend the phone...
SPB Mobile Shell allows you to toggle the screen, suspend and many other options. I don't know if I would purchase the program just for it's button enhancing ability though.
Correction SPB Pocket Plus not SPB Mobile Shell
You could also check out AE Software at http://ae.inc.ru/
I dont know if this is kind of what you guys want, but heres my 2 cents. Go here to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431328&page=4 and download Dave Shaw's awesome remake of psShutXP in post #34 (its the newest version)
Install to your MAIN DEVICE cuz thats where these shortcuts point to, then pick one of the 2 shortcuts I provided and just drop them in your main \Windows folder.
Hold down PTT button
Long_PTT
Quick push of PTT button
Short_PTT
Now, you can either just quickly push the PTT button or hold it down (depending on which shortcut you chose) and xdaShutdown will pop up giving you the option to RESTART,SLEEP/SCREEN OFF, or COMPLETELY SHUTDOWN your phone.
So essentially now, the PTT is your new power button. To put in standby mode just 2 button pushes is required. 1 push on the PTT button, then another tap on the Sleep button.
But if your really lazy and just want to be able to push PTT button once to put it in Standby/Sleep mode, then all you would do is find out the command to put the phone in standby mode (sorry I dont know it), then open notepad on your desktop, then type the command something like, this is ONLY AN EXAMPLE (42#"\Program Files\xdaShutdown\xdaShutdown.exe"), then save the file as either Short_PTT.lnk or Long_PTT.lnk and then drop the file into your \Windows folder.
But what about one push on the PTT button to wake it up out of standby? (without setting it so that all buttons wake it...)
Wow, I am an idiot. Haha. I never thought about the "wake up" part. Cuz once in Standby, the PTT button would then be non responsive so it then wouldnt work for waking the device. That is a tuff one, I have no idea how to specify what button(s) are locked/unlocked when in standby.
No way, you're not an idiot! I (and others I'm sure) totally appreciate your input. I just happened to have thought this over many, many times. I very well may have to go buy a bottle of that "puffy" paint stuff... sure would beat a full disassembly of the device to make a new, pronounced button!
I'm hoping I haven't misread the problem here, but if it is what I think it is, then you can do it with just S2U2.
I have my TyTnII set up as follows:
No button lock
S2U2 set to lock when backlight turns off
Backlight to turn off in 1 minute
In Setting/Buttons, assign "Button 4 (hold)" to S2U2
So I use it in a similar manner to the original poster. I "wake" it with a press of any hardware button (and obviously unlock it with a slide on the screen)
I lock/stand-by it by pressing and holding the OK button (it goes into standby after 1 min of being locked)
Hope that makes sense and is what you are after.
(nb am not 100% sure that the ability to set an app to run on the holding of a button is standard - I might only have that functionality dues to having SPB PocketPlus installed - am sure someone will let me know!)
Yes! this is what I was going for... I didn't even think about using your solution. Thanks!!!!
Does anyone have a problem with the hardware buttons not waking the phone up? I have my key lock setting not to lock buttons, but most of the time, my phone does not wake up when I press any of the hard keys. However, when I use the jog dial, the phone will wake up, but none of the other buttons will work.
Hey Guys,
question is as simple as that. I'm using HTC's original cradle for charging and syncing. Means, the phone is getting charged over USB. So whenever I dock the device, Windows Mobile Center kicks in. No problem by itself but the Diamond's screen backlight won't turn off when connected to AS. It just only dims into energy saving mode.
Is there a way either to completely turn the display off when syncing -or- to disconnect from AS without disconnecting from USB? The former could also be helpful for TomTom which also only dims the screen but won't switch it off.
Thanks,
Falk
First solution
Put the diamond in the cradle.
Wait for a complete sync.
Push diamond's power button.
The diamond will still be charging through USB, the screen will be completely off.
Of course, in this case, Active Sync is disabled and you won't be able to sync or access the device through your PC.
Second solution
Use a tool to toggle the screen off while not affecting the diamond power state
Some applications provide such built-in features, like Windows Media Player which has a toggle screen shortcut which allows you to listen to music with the screen off
You may find such a tool here or here
In this case, everything will be functionnal (sync and charging) with screen off
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Yes, of course... that really is the simplest solution So simple I even didn't think of it. Merci b'coup!
I put the screen off util on the Take Call hardware button. Now the best would be if this app could also reactivate the screen as I now need to push the on/off button that seems to disable GPS.
Bitte sehr...
What you actually need is a "toggle screen" command line tool and not a simple screen off tool....
Interesting.
If I think of something, i'll let you know
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What you actually need is a "toggle screen" command line tool and not a simple screen off tool....
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Yep
eg this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326103 which perfectly does the job when assigned to a hardware button
Thx again for your help!
You're welcome.
Viel Spass.
Myster-D
There is another option. If you do not use AS or WMDC to snyc with the PC you can disable it all together. In WMDC, open the Device Center with the device disconnected. The only Flash menu you will see is "Mobile Device Settings". Roll your mouse over & you will see "Connection Setting". Click on it, & disable the Checkbox next to "Allow USB Connections". After you do this the Computer will no longer try to sync with the device, but it still connects as an external device {allowing you to veiw your device in explorer}.
After you have disable the syncing, you need to adjust the power settings on your device. Set the device to sleep while on external power.
Personally I use the screen toggle alot. I use my device with Inet sharing when I can't get a WiFi signal on my laptop. I have SPB Pocket Plus installed, which includes a screen toggle.
Thanks for your reply. I'm actually using WMDC however thanks for showing up this possibility.
I installed pBar 1.5 a few days ago which also features a screen toggle button.
Apart from that I'm quite happy with Myster-D's solution.