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wifi/media player turning off when power btn is pressed

Hai
it would seem that if i have windows media player streaming a file over wifi from the intarweb and i press the wpoer button to sleep the device, it kills the wifi conn - any workarounds for this?
also sometimes when im using the htc home plugin music bit and i press the power button it kills the backend media player process :s
is anyone else having these problems - im sure theres a setting somewhere for it im just too noob to find it
edit: in fact it seems to kill the wifi conn when it goes to sleep by itself too

When you press Power button, you are puting the phone in suspend mode. you need to turn off only the screen, than all the proceses will keep runing. I do it with AEButtonPlus, that alow you to assign a button to this option, and much more...

really? that doesnt seem to make sense - i was using the media player last night through the htchome music plugin over my bluetooth stereo headset, pressed the power button to turn off the screen and everything kept running as i had expected it to - i guess it handles bluetooth differently than wifi?
i intend to have this sitting on my desk at work with apps with network connections persistently open, does that mean ive got to disable the auto-suspend feature in order to achieve this? was kinda hoping it would just power off the screen after a while and any other bits it wasnt using (maybe lower efficiency for better power consumption in places ie wifi) - not kill everything dead
it seems to me to be intermittent when it comes to pressing the power button shutting down the media player tho so hmm :S

When you turn off (suspend) your device the WiFi connection is automatically stopped, which is good, considering the power consumption... imagine you would forget it on for 2h...
shayd was right, you can turn off the screen (different from pressing power) with different programs, which would keep your WiFi going. it's like monitor off on pc, and stand-by on PC

when you pressing power button it is not "killing" all the apps that is running, only suspending the proceses of those apps. when you press power button again, it will resume all the proceses of the runnig apps.

I think you're wrong on this one... it tells the programs that system is in stand-by mode, but programs act the way they want... they can still run.

is it only the wifi it kills when it goes into suspend? what about gprs/gsm/etc? surely it doesnt turn off the phone when its suspended
it doesnt seem to stop any running processes if goes into suspend mode - it only seems to intermittently kill the background media player process (when run through the htchome plugin) when i manually press the power button - ie sometimes itll keep playing, other times itll die
the wifi does dies whether it goes into standby manually or automatically though - ill check out that aebuttonplus, cheers

ok, the only thing that matters here is that suspend (manual and auto) kills WiFi
the reason sometimes it plays a little, and then stops is that it has buffered something before WiFi goes down
what you want is a way to turn off the screen, but not go in suspend mode... i'm sure you can find something smaller than AEButtonPlus for that

oh, and be carefull: when shuting down screen, the hardware buttons are NOT LOCKED (i'm 99% sure the touchscreen is disabled, so no problem there)

RPG0 said:
I think you're wrong on this one... it tells the programs that system is in stand-by mode, but programs act the way they want... they can still run.
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You right, the programs are still runing. but they are suspending the proceses.
like if you are connected to pc via activesync, when you suspend the phone by P button, you are "killing" the sync proces, but activesync will still run. same with gps apps and so on. of course some poceses (system) can not been stoped.

shayd said:
You right, the programs are still runing. but they are suspending the proceses.
like if you are connected to pc via activesync, when you suspend the phone by P button, you are "killing" the sync proces, but activesync will still run. same with gps apps and so on. of course some poceses (system) can not been stoped.
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If you wanna get into it:
I could be wrong, but i think the system sends a WM_SYSTEM_SUSPEND (or something similar) message to all apps running, so each app does what it wants (some ignore it and run, some stop displaying stuff but still compute, play music and some stop everything, depending on their purpose)
examples:
- app that gets mail ignores the message or stops displaying stuff
- app that plays music keeps playing but no visualization
- app for im still gets messages but no visualization
(those are true assuming programmers that made those apps did a good job for power saving - maybe system stops displaying anyway, even if apps don't)
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your "spam" is making sense to me. and maybe there is a way to force some apps to ignore that command (or what ever it is).

i see ye that makes sense - alot like win32 - i really need to read the wm6 sdk

Oh, i just saw that BatteryStatus also has screen off in tray icons, and i find it useful anyway, so maybe give it a try(search forum for latest version)

Phone / MP3 Player in My Pocket
With the availability of 6GB, and soon bigger microSD cards, we can now reasonably use our Tilts as true MP3 players and discard our IPods.
I for one would like a solution, I hope to use my Tilt while Skiing this season. The Tilt will be in my jacket pocket and I will be using a Bluetooth Stereo Headset. However, if we cannot lock the phone while it is in our pocket, then we will be unable to use it in this fashion.
I for one do not have the knowledge to fix this problem, but am hoping one of the bright coders here will find a solution for me and others.

The gps is also turned off when the device is suspended.
I've just started using s2u2. (the newer low mem version of the popular slide to unlock.)
This has the advantage of being assignable to a key, can turn off the screen and lock the device all in one go.
pjam

I've found that you can still have the device in standby and listen to audio if either of the following are true:
- you are using a headset connected to the miniUSB connection
- you are using an A2DP stereo headset and press the button the corresponds to controlling start/stop of the audio after you put the device in standby. In my case, this works fine with my Plantronics 590.

This topic is dead a long time ago, but I found it, and still got confused ...
What drive me crazy is that: my Hermes (8525) still keeps wifi on even when the power is off (I dont use any kind of Tweak, just flash a cooked ROM, I tried w/ 2 different ROM). But my Kaiser doesn't!

Tilt not turning off when connected to PC

I keep my Tilt connected to a PC all the time when I am not using it.... To charge it, and transfer files etc.
The problem is that it never appears to turn off when connected, specifically the screen. Now I don't know if phone screens really suffer from any type of "burn-in", but I'm sure there is some type of limited life on the screens.
I have set the Start > Settings > System > Power > Advanced to turn off the device on external power after a couple of minutes, but it does not appear to do anything.
The settings in Start > Settings > System > Backlight > External Power does seem to work. I set it to turn off backlight after 30 seconds and it does.
I often hit the power button on the phone to turn it to standby when I go to sleep but the screen is often on again when I get to it. It think if it gets a call it might wake the screen, and never shut back off.
How can I ensure that the screen stays off (or powers off after activity) while the device is connected to the PC?
thx

Well there is a light in there that can burn out. Um, what happens if you hit that side button that turns that light off? Works for me when my preciouses is blugged into my comp.

the problem with pushing power button when connected to computer...it turns the screen off, but also breaks the connection to Active Sync for some reason..it charges the phone but activesync connection goes down.
but im a newb on the tilt so there might be an option to enable active sync with display off.
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Well there is a light in there that can burn out. Um, what happens if you hit that side button that turns that light off? Works for me when my preciouses is blugged into my comp.
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ooooooh you know what, whenever I close wow out when I'm done, there is a window saying that active sync was disconnected. I just thought it timed out or something. Hmmmmm
After is has synced do you really need it to keep refreshing?

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Well there is a light in there that can burn out. Um, what happens if you hit that side button that turns that light off? Works for me when my preciouses is blugged into my comp.
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That works, but the problem is if someone calls (or maybe if some other notification comes in...SMS, email, calendar appointment) it lights back up and stays on.
I'm not concerned with ActiveSync disconnecting, I just want to plug it into my computer to leave charging and I would rather not power the device ALL the way down.
-thx

I guess I need to pay more attention to mine.

bengalih said:
That works, but the problem is if someone calls (or maybe if some other notification comes in...SMS, email, calendar appointment) it lights back up and stays on.
I'm not concerned with ActiveSync disconnecting, I just want to plug it into my computer to leave charging and I would rather not power the device ALL the way down.
-thx
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There are programs that you can install that will shut off your screen but leave the rest of the device active. I wouldn't worry about the screen burning though. My Wizard was on like that all the time for over a year (stupid WM6 bug prevented you from turning the phone off if it was plugged in to USB), and my screen never showed any adverse effects.
As long as your backlight goes off, you will be fine.

backlight stays on... damn annoying!

My backlight stays on when ever i get a text or a call. Even if i hangup, it still stays on and then i have to manually dim it. Its damn annoying, as my fone is not always with me. Ill come home and the thing would be flat due to a text early the morning and the backlight staying on the whole day.
I did a hard reset a while ago and that seems to cure it, but when i backup my data, the backlight issue is back.
I almost want to think that active sync is the culprit. dont know how or why, but it has some influence on the phone. Any Ideas?
thanx

Check your backlight (dim after X minutes) and power (turn off after Y minutes) settings?

Turn off backlight if device is not used for - 10seconds (battery power)
Turn off backlight if device is not used for - 1 minute (External power)
thats the current setttings?

Do you have your phone connected to the PC via activesync (usb or bluetooth) all day?

No, not at all. Bluetooth is off, wifi is off, its just idling. If i get a text or a call it stays on.
when i do connect to the pc its via usb

Have you installed any non standard applications that adjust the backlight???? I had the same problem when I used wm5 Ipaq programs on my TyTN.

not at all. I recently did a hard reset.
then plugged it into the pc a couple of times. So i gathered activesync connected a few times and now its giving me the same old crap

Did you install Manilla TouchFlo?

nope. there is only oem software on the fone

http://www.jongma.org/KaiserTweak/
KaiserTweak is just what you need! You can change all the 'sleep' options around, without having to dive into the registry.

tanked said:
http://www.jongma.org/KaiserTweak/
KaiserTweak is just what you need! You can change all the 'sleep' options around, without having to dive into the registry.
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Installed it prior to asking for help.. does not do jack

Turn off Light/Display wilst ActiveSync?

I am not charching my Battery per USB, is there way to turn off Display without having the ActiveSync connection cut off?

*push*
No one knows?

There's a great freeware that i use called WkTask, which is a launcher, among other things, and it has the option of turning off the screen, but not putting the phone into standby. Disable the automatic power off and turn off the screen, this should solve your problem.
For added functionality, create a shortcut in the windows directory called 'long_power.lnk', and point it at the same file that WkTask uses (you'll see the path when you add it to the launcher, its a 'command call' btw). Then you can press and hold the power button to turn the screen off instead of powering off the phone (which is something i never do, does anyone?)
Hope that helps.

Powering X1i through USB -- any hacks to do the following...

Hi all,
I frequently charge my X1i through USB. There are 2 problems with this method, however.
1) The device goes into USB drive mode, disabling my SD card apps (I keep them on SD card AT ALL TIMES due to frequent backups/restores)
2) Screen does not turn off! while connected to computer! The screen only dims, but does not turn off.
WITHOUT resorting to a) plugging into wall outlet b) connecting to Activesync, is there any to fix these behaviors?
Thanks!

just let it go into activesync mode, that way you can still access your files on your phone and micro sd card from both your pc and phone. And if you dont like the screen not turning off, they just change the settings or just press the power button, to shut off the display.

I know about the power setting, but when your computer is connected to the computer via USB, it refuses to turn off the screen (only dims it)

what? one simple button press and the screen is off. the device is still visible to the pc. I do it all the time - r3a generic uk rom.

in power options u can set after what time it disables screen... default is never

what? one simple button press and the screen is off. the device is still visible to the pc. I do it all the time - r3a generic uk rom.
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Weird. When I'm connected to Pc, it dims the screen, it does not shut it off. Also, it does NOT auto-shut of screen after the 2 minutes specific in the Power options

You can also use "safely remove devices" to disconnect the data connection from the phone, it'll still charge.

There's nothing we can do AUTO. But like said before, a simple pression on the power button will do it, or you can use My Mobiler and press F11 on your PC.

stisev said:
Weird. When I'm connected to Pc, it dims the screen, it does not shut it off. Also, it does NOT auto-shut of screen after the 2 minutes specific in the Power options
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Yep, I've had 5 different WinMo devices since '05 and they all worked as expected except the X1. I like to use it as an MP3 player at night, Pocket Player has a sleep timer built in so I just like to leave it running as I drift off most nights. But if I do anything, change the volume, rewind, anything at all the screen comes back on and stays on until I hit some other button to turn it back off. All my other devices obeyed the settings you set in the Power tab, but not the X1...
I'd very much like the screen to auto-off if I tell it to while on USB power. It's not only wasting power, but it wakes me up and gets me fumbling for the tiny power button at 2 in the morning. Any fix would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Peter
I bumped up thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561832 Since it has a better title and shows the exact same unresolved issue...

Reg Fix
Adding this potential fix here as well so anyone subscribed to this thread sees it.
Ok, I think I have a fix for this. I googled around some more and found that this might be an HTC problem more than an SE one. There were various registry keys people suggested to try to fix the 'backlight problem' - which may or may not be related. None of those suggestions seemed to work, but I kept changing keys myself and eventually found this seemed to do the trick.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\ACUserIdle: 120
I confirmed that changing this value affects the amount of time before my X1's screen turns off - but my MP3s still play with the screen off and my phone wakes on receipt of a new call. This value is the # of seconds before the screen turns itself off (in this case 2 minutes). You do need to soft reset for the change to take effect.
This doesn't seem to be posted anywhere else that I've found doing this to fix this issue issue - I changed a few other registry keys as well that might be enabling this fix. So anyone with this problem, please do give this a try and if it doesn't work I'll post the other keys I changed as well - and if it does then post to say so and we're good
Peter
Update: I tested it also while hooked up to the computer and it does work with the phone accessible through active sync with the screen off and the battery charging (faster now that it isn't competing with the screen for power, except for the 2 minutes before it times out). If I want to use it I just click a button and the screen stays on till I leave it alone for 2 mins and it remains off. Get a call or a message and the screen goes on for 2 minutes and then off - Exact same behaviour on AC and USB - exactly the behaviour I wanted .