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Is there a way to turn off TouchFLO?

i dont like to use touch flo and would like to know if someone has found a way to disable it ?
thanks, eric

their is touchflo option in settings (under system I think), should allow you to disable it

Go to the the TODAY settings...
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC

the touchflo (finger panning) option is the one i want to turn off.
i still want to keep the htc home in my today screen.

aaronsmckee said:
their is touchflo option in settings (under system I think), should allow you to disable it
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there is only one checked box about the sound on/off when panning. no where to disable it.

I'd love to turn touchflo off. It seems pretty worthless. It scrolls a page to slowly and in PIE its hard to get it to stop when u get to a spot you want to view.

technillion said:
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
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I had followed above with soft reset also, but still the "touch flo" function running in PIE. This is pretty annoying and useless function if you used to your finger scrolling webpages with PIE plus.
Another one can helps..Thank.

Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.

Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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That worked perfect neighbor. The touchflo scrolling made it near impossible to drag separator lines. I greatly prefer to tap in the scroll-bar field to page up/down. Thanks again.

jamespaulritter said:
That worked perfect neighbor. The touchflo scrolling made it near impossible to drag separator lines. I greatly prefer to tap in the scroll-bar field to page up/down. Thanks again.
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Out of curiosity does that change also speed up PIE scrolling the normal way ? - cos it's super laggy and worse than TyTn in the out of the box setup.
Mike

Well if i hold my finger in the scroll bar field it will page up/down at 4 pages a second. The reg edit doesn't seem to have changed anything other than the touchflo scrolling

TouchFlO Scrolling and Sound
A Couple questions here:
Is there a way to tweak touchflo scrolling such that it only goes one page length at a time, instead of 4 or 5?
Is there away to turn of the clicking sound as it scrolls?
I'm assuming these are just annoyances of an immature feature that was rushed out the door, but hoping there are fixes available or that HTC is smart enough to fix the problems in future releases.

MardiG said:
A Couple questions here:
Is there a way to tweak touchflo scrolling such that it only goes one page length at a time, instead of 4 or 5?
Is there away to turn of the clicking sound as it scrolls?
I'm assuming these are just annoyances of an immature feature that was rushed out the door, but hoping there are fixes available or that HTC is smart enough to fix the problems in future releases.
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Have you even looked at the settings in your tilt\Kaiser? you would have found atleast on answer to your questions just by looking around and learning your device!

I guess to each his/her own, but I personally think the TouchFLO interface is a huge improvement in usability. Perhaps it just takes some getting used to. And with TouchFLO, you can still essentially do all the things you could without TouchFLO. E.g. the scroll bars are still there to be used if you like that. And you can still use the stylus for normal operations. There seems to be some confusion about how it works so let me explain the "use cases".
The way TouchFLO works is this:
- use a finger (not your fingernail) to "drag" the screen up/down (or even left/right if the page is wider than the screen). The page should drag with your finger. It's semi-smooth. Not truly smooth, but smooth enough. When you drag, DON'T lift your finger from the screen till you've got it positioned to your desired spot.
OR
- If you use your finger (not your fingernail) to swipe up or down AND LIFT your finger fromthe screen as you do it, then the screen with scroll by itself to the end in that direction or until you tap the screen again to stop it.
OR
- if you use the stylus or your fingernail, then it will NOT scroll like above. It will then behave like a normal stylus control (highlites and selects instead of scrolling).
So, the screen reads a broad touch (like your finger) differently than a narrow/pinpoint touch (like your nail or stylus).
once I got used to it, i found it to be an excellent upgrade in the interface. I don't think it was a "feature that was rushed out the door" at all. in fact that it reads the stylus and your finger differently speaks to the idea that thought went into it.
Use it on a web page to see the different use cases. If you browse a PDF file, it'll drag even with a stylus because you can't "highlight and select" within a PDF file, so it knows that use case is invalid.
Also, You can change the sensitivity by using a reg tweak: HKLM-DRIVERS-TOUCHPANEL-PRESSURE THRESHOLD. Increase/decrease it for more/less sensitivity.

technillion said:
From the Today Screen:
1. Go to SETTINGS
2. Select TODAY icon
3. Select ITEMS tab (at the bottom)
4. UNCHECK the "HTC Home" item
5. Click OK and go back to the Today Screen
It should be gone!
TEC
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You do realize this has nothing to do with TouchFlo ... right?

jomo25 said:
There seems to be some confusion about how it works so let me explain the "use cases".
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Nice writeup, thanks!
Richard "Still Jonesing for a Tilt"

I wish there was a way to partially disable the Kaiser implementation of touchflo --specifically, the feature where if you drag scroll and your finger ends up at one of the edges of the screen (which is really easy on a 2.8" screen using your thumb) it goes into the continuous scrolling mode. I wish those edge regions of the screen were treated just like any other.

Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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Thanks from me too for this tip. I don't use TouchFLO and I found the touchscreen on my TyTN II a bit annoying with this enabled. Sometimes it wouldn't react to tapping so I had to tap twice. This was maybe one out of every three or four taps.

Jason Lee said:
Try changing HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\EnableScroll to 0 then reboot.
I haven't tried it yet.
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didnt work for me, im using windows mobile 6.5, and its annoying to have the 6.5 scrolling and touchflo at the same time...

jonrulezz said:
didnt work for me, im using windows mobile 6.5, and its annoying to have the 6.5 scrolling and touchflo at the same time...
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Please don't go digging in the graveyard, it disturbs the other corpses
Try going to settings>today>items>uncheck touchFlo

Rotate Screen option

is there a way to make the rotate screen option rotate to the left instead of the right that way it rotates the same way it would if you were to slide open the keyboard? i see the option in settings/system/screen were you can choose, but that's only a one time thing.

there's a few options...
turn on the screen rotate icon and system tray and you will have an icon on your today screen at all times.
search the forums for system tray or screen rotate icon and you will find ways to do this...

smittyofdhs said:
there's a few options...
turn on the screen rotate icon and system tray and you will have an icon on your today screen at all times.
search the forums for system tray or screen rotate icon and you will find ways to do this...
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i'm not talking about the icon, what i'm asking is there a way to rotate the screen to the same side as it does when you open up the keyboard, right now it rotates the opposite way.

brianlb said:
i'm not talking about the icon, what i'm asking is there a way to rotate the screen to the same side as it does when you open up the keyboard, right now it rotates the opposite way.
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oh yeah, I had that problem. I have SPB Pocket Plus 4 and the SPB Actions shortcuts. One of the shortcuts is "Rotate Screen Right" which rotates the screen the same direction just like you are pulling out the slider.
If you are using HTC Home and want the launcher button to rotate correctly, then you need something like I mentioned above. I map the launcher button to "rotate screen right", works like a charm.
There may be a free option out there, but I already owned pp4 so this was the easy fix. It's probably just a registry entry and screen refresh being sent to the OS.

I just mapped the `rotate screen` to a hard button and it always rotates the same way as keyboard opening now.

Check out this thread, it worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333970&highlight=rotate+screen

anyone able to get rotate screen to rotate the same way as when you slide out the keyboard?

Yes, see my post 2 up from yours

willis78 said:
Check out this thread, it worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333970&highlight=rotate+screen
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That works ... thanks

Mandlebrot said:
I just mapped the `rotate screen` to a hard button and it always rotates the same way as keyboard opening now.
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hmmm...somehow this doesn't work for me =/. i'll keep searching.

Dont know if this is really of any use to you but I found the reg key responsible for the auto rotate of the screen when the keyboard is slid out.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SliderOutRotateAngle
the default (original value is) 270 (this is a dword value in Dec)
If this is missing the screen won't rotate. If missing create a Dword value in the above directory (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\) Name it SliderOutRotateAngle and add the value 270 in Dec.
Confirm Settings by selecting accept changes and soft reset.
Oh 270 happen to be the degree at which the screen rotates. I set it to 180 and pulled keyboard out and it was funny to see my screen upside down.. lol
Cough, anyway hope this helps! Oh, and Merry Xmas All!!
diigibio (diigimatrix)

Rotate Screen
I am having difficulty figuring out how to add the rotate screen option to the task bar. Can anyone help me on this one? (And I have searched the forum, I can only find people saying THAT they have it, not How they did it)
Thanks

just put this file into windows/start menu/programs and link it with htc home
It will do the trick.
http://rapidshare.com/files/66557524/scRot_0_90_0.exe.html

Can you make rotate screen go the other way for landscape?

When I press the rotate screen button in HTC Home, it rotates clockwise to landscape. That's the opposite direction of my keyboard. So then when I slide out my keyboard the screen has to flip over. That just seems silly.
Is there a way to make rotate screen rotate counter clockwise instead to match the keyboard orientation?
Thanks for your help!

Try Start>Settings>System Tab then Screen and check the orientation landscape of you choice to rotate the screen the way you want. Then go back and switch to portrait. Now when you select rotate it should remember the last setting. This works for me.

RemE said:
Try Start>Settings>System Tab then Screen and check the orientation landscape of you choice to rotate the screen the way you want. Then go back and switch to portrait. Now when you select rotate it should remember the last setting. This works for me.
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I just tried that but it still always rotate clockwise which is upside down.

Sorry, it was worth a try, it works for other apps that I use but I should have mentioned that I don't use HTC home so hadn't tried it there.

htcoveblue said:
I just tried that but it still always rotate clockwise which is upside down.
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Make sure to apply the setting after you change to the orientation you want. Then, after that, you go back and change it to Portrait and apply that setting. After that, it should switch to what you chose when you press your dedicated button.

sherpa said:
Make sure to apply the setting after you change to the orientation you want. Then, after that, you go back and change it to Portrait and apply that setting. After that, it should switch to what you chose when you press your dedicated button.
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I'm missing something. I go to screen settings and select Landscape Right Handed. Then I select OK. The screen turns counter clockwise just like I want. Then I go back in and set it to Portrait and hit OK. The screen goes back to the portrait view.
Then when I hit rotate screen on HTC Home or the Cube, it rotates clockwise again and is upside down.

htcoveblue said:
I'm missing something. I go to screen settings and select Landscape Right Handed. Then I select OK. The screen turns counter clockwise just like I want. Then I go back in and set it to Portrait and hit OK. The screen goes back to the portrait view.
Then when I hit rotate screen on HTC Home or the Cube, it rotates clockwise again and is upside down.
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Ahh...I thought you had a button mapped. Well, in that case, you may have to check the settings on HTC Home or Cube. I don't use any of the two. Sorry!

sherpa said:
Ahh...I thought you had a button mapped. Well, in that case, you may have to check the settings on HTC Home or Cube. I don't use any of the two. Sorry!
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It uses the same Rotate Screen feature as button mapping does. Just to test, I mapped my Internet button to Rotate Screen and went through the same process. When I press it, it still always rotates clockwise. If you could help me figure out how to get the button mapping to rotate the other way, I'm sure it would work with HTC Home as well.
Thanks!

The problem is it wants to rotate clockwise be casue there are two diferent priorty rotation events. Rotation with the KB closed goes clockwise because it follows the camera rotation rule (rotating so the camera button is on top). It seems it could be done by isolating the call madwe by opening the KB. I use the HTC tray app & that allows rotating either way with multiple pushes.
You could use the action send funtion with a "rotate left" command, but you'd have to edit the HTC Home ini file. Or use the home customizer & point to a shortcut that is an action send Rotate Left. If you want I'll build the file for you with instructions, but you'll have to place the file in your \windows\start menu\programs folder. Or wait until someone better than I has another solution.

GSLEON3 said:
The problem is it wants to rotate clockwise be casue there are two diferent priorty rotation events. Rotation with the KB closed goes clockwise because it follows the camera rotation rule (rotating so the camera button is on top). It seems it could be done by isolating the call madwe by opening the KB. I use the HTC tray app & that allows rotating either way with multiple pushes.
You could use the action send funtion with a "rotate left" command, but you'd have to edit the HTC Home ini file. Or use the home customizer & point to a shortcut that is an action send Rotate Left. If you want I'll build the file for you with instructions, but you'll have to place the file in your \windows\start menu\programs folder. Or wait until someone better than I has another solution.
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Sounds ideal. That way the Camera button could still rotate the clockwise and the HTC Home button could rotate counter clockwise. Where do I find the HTC Home ini file to edit it?
Thank you so much for your help!

I cannot find an HTC Home ini file to edit nor can I find any default action for "Rotate Left", only "Rotate Screen". I tried HTC Home Customizer to see if there was a default action in there and there was not.
I hate to ask you to make files for me, but I'd really appreciate it.

My bad, there is no ini file It's all in a dll I believe. You can do it thought, but you will have to use the HHC home customizer for it to work with the file I create. I try to do it tonight.

I downloaded HTC Home Customizer a few minutes ago. Thanks so much for your help. I think this might be a popular request. I like to use the Kaiser in landscape whenever using GPS (which is frequent). It bugs me that I have to flip it upside down to get the keyboard open to answer a text message. Having it face that way already would be much better. You are AWESOME in my book for even being willing to try. I can't wait to see the result.
Thanks!!!!

Check your PM's. If it doesn't work I may have to edit it. I hacked it up quikly.

My just worked after changing the setting as mentioned earlier in this thread, it did revert once when I started Tomtom but just quit and restarted with all being well again.

Same problem here. Funny thing is, that I have a program (came pre-installed) called "HTCHomeplug" where the screen rotates in to both landscape directions by default. However, "HTC Home" program only does the one direction (and not the one I am looking for!).
Makes me wonder if I have the latest version of HTC Home?

Maybe this can help a little?
simple compact framework program, no gui, just rotating screen:
if screen rotation is 0 it will be changed to 90
if screen rotation is other than 0 it will be changed to 0
program isn't very fast (.net...) but fast enough to be usefull
if anyone need source code (10 lines or compiled version with diffrent rule/angle/whatever just let me know

SPB Pocket Plus includes shortcuts for rotating the screen either way. I just assigned rotate right to one of the HTC Home program shortcuts. Now I can press the default landscape shortcut to rotate left and the SPB one to rotate right. I realize it's a paid solution but it does work and there are other benefits provided by SPB Pocket Plus as well.

Fast but not fixed to 1 rotation
i hope i will still get reply for this.
I downloaded this in 1 of the thread.
It is so fast for screen rotation. however it goes all the 180,270 then back to the portrait display.
Is there anyway to modify it so it can only rotate in 1 angle, being just as fast in rotation?
Thanx

Qlphn said:
Maybe this can help a little?
simple compact framework program, no gui, just rotating screen:
if screen rotation is 0 it will be changed to 90
if screen rotation is other than 0 it will be changed to 0
program isn't very fast (.net...) but fast enough to be usefull
if anyone need source code (10 lines or compiled version with diffrent rule/angle/whatever just let me know
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Hi Qlphn,
Could you please make this app rotate screen from 0 to 270. If you would upload it here, I would really appreciate.
Thanks

screen rotate direction

With the Alex Game Rom, the htchome screen rotate button rotates clockwise to landscape, how do I make it rotate counterclockwise to landscape (the landscape direction when using the keyboard)?
thanks,

I was going to ask same question, actually.. anybody knows?
It'd be perfect if it'd switch Kaiser to landscape and back (toggle thing). it does so now, just landscape is rotating left instead of right.. any way to change that?

Don't use HTC Home, but this might work;
Start>Settings> System Tab then Screen and set Orientation to right-handed or left-handed which ever is what you want, then switch back to portrait. For "Most" apps that have a switch to landscape, they will switch to what you last set in this config screen as it seems to remember this preference.
Hopefully HTC's screen isn't hard coded elseware...

Nope unfortunatelly that doesn't fix it.

on some other forum there was a supposed registry fix. HKLM, system, gdi, rotation; landscape mode (change 4 to 1). But this doesnt seem to stick, and I dont know if it does what we are talking about anyway.

this is how i do it
go to settings, and remap the press to talk button in rotate screen. works flawless on my device. I use it for tomtom, first it also rotated the wrong direction. now it is fine.

Try this....
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Nope unfortunatelly that doesn't fix it.
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Try this:
Open your reg editor (I use Resco Registry Editor Mainly) and navigate to :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC Scroll to the botton of the folder (so to speak) and at the bottom you will find a reg value called "SliderOutRotateAngle" it default value is (that is the correct angle for sliding the keyboard out. Just change this value for a different angle i.e. 90, 180 etc.. (PLEASE NOTE THIS REG KEY IS A DWORD KEY AND ENTER IN DEC FORM/This is just in case you delete it by acident)
As with most .reg changes, don't forget to soft-reset..
Hope this helps..
diigibio

TouchFlo scroll problem

Ok, first to the admins/moderators - I searched my ass off trying to find a thread with my problem, to no avail... so if there is one, please excuse me...
So here is my problem - I find it very difficult to scroll any list with my finger because I just end up selecting some item from the list... Is there any registry setting to, lets say, delay the select behavior of TouchFlo? I mean, for example, I try scrolling my contacts, I AM able to scroll but almost immediately after I start scrolling I end up selecting some contact!?! Am I the only one with that problem? PLEASE HELP!

Bump. Anyone?

I just have the problem the other way around, I just can't select multiple items because everything starts scrolling...

try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually

joshkoss said:
try scrolling with finger in more center of screen
selecting works if you scroll motion on left or right side usually
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Also , make it more of a " flick " with your finger, instead of a touch and drag scroll.

So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!

mmmfff said:
So there's no registry setting? I have tried changing settings in HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings, HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCGesture, HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel, HKLM\Software\HTC\TouchScroll... can't seem to make any difference!!! The screen becomes more responsive, scrolling is faster/slower, but no effect on my problem - whenever I try to scroll I always end up selecting... there HAS to be some setting that determines the delay from scrolling to selecting behavior... it works so well on the damn iPhone... also works beautifully on the S2U2 settings screen... they should fire all the idiots at HTC and hire the S2U2 guys to do their interface!!!
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u should blow up their forums then

Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up

I hate to say this, but I think that is the expected behavior or TouchFlo scrolling.
You can drag to scroll specifically (and I don't believe this selects anything, at least on my Tilt), or you can swipe to start kinetic scrolling. If you click while kinetic scrolling is occurring, I think TouchFlo causes a selection to be made (although in places where single-click activate is the default, I don't think it actually activates the item--it simply highlights it).
You may be able to resolve this by changing the TFLOSettings\FingerPressure value.
I had a problem for the first six months with TouchFlo where the context menu would pop up about one in three times I tried to scroll (swiping or dragging). This happened even the moment I started using the device. Completely and utterly unusable. But after the third or so time I tried adjusting TFLOSettings values in the registry, I finally solved the problem. I ended up with TFLOSettings\FingerPressure=0x64 (100) and TouchPanel\PressureThreshold=0xC8 (200).
I REALLY wish HTC or someone would produce a complete guide to customizing TouchFlo scrolling (including the meanings of the TFLOSETTINGS values). It really works well, once it is optimized. Although, it will be great if Microsoft builds scrolling into the Common Controls in WM6.5.

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Oh well, I guess I'll just wait till some genius dev out there finds out the right registry key, I give up
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Actually there are genius developers in here. I think you're just being a little picky, the touch flo works fine for me.

I think I recall a touchflo sensitivity setting in KaiserTweak. Get it, then try setting the Touchflo sensitivity to the most sensitive option possible.
Dave

+1 on Kaisertweek, altho I reduced sensitivity instead of increasing it. Technique counts too. I tend to use nails or stylus for browsers, especially Opera. Use keyboard for contacts, and scrollwheel to dial it from there. Every phone is different, but reducing sensitivity via Kaisertweek worked for me.

Problem solved
Finally figured it out and now it works perfectly. The culprit was the too high value in HKLM\Drivers\Touchpanel\PressureThreshold.... I put a value of 160 (dword:000000a0) and now I have almost iPhone experience

heres a thread closer !
to bring some closure to this thread, the following utility will solve all your touchflo woes!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499837