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Has anyone spent any time comparing these two apps?
I really like Moxier. Even though it doesn't give you direct view access to your contacts or calendar, it does sync them and allow you to access your contacts from within an email and it gives you calendar alerts in your notification bar.
Touchdown has great support. It allows direct view of contacts and calendar.
Both support activesync push.
Right now, I'm trying to determine which one I'll be paying for.
The battery life seems to be a little bit better with Touchdown, but I can't say for certain.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Been usin' TD for about 5 months now, since the early betas, and it never ceases to impress me.
Yeah, I've been using TD off and on for the last few weeks.
I decided to test Moxier the other day when they sent me an email about the limited release.
I like Moxier in a lot of ways but I'm convinced it's not as refined as TD and it tears my battery down where TD doesn't appear to affect it at all.
I think I will be sticking with TD.
I do wish that handled folders as well as Moxier but all in all, I think TD is a better product.
Thanks for the input.
Just got notified of TD 3.0 today. Seems cool so far. Not sure what's change exactly. Something about accelerated push.
Touchdown is way better than moxier. Te mere fact that you can select multiple emails for deletion is worth it.
I love the synching of everyhtign else as well.
Calender, contacs.
Yes, touchdown kicks ass on Moxier.
Moxier has the ability to do what you are asking. Multiple selects to move, archive, delete etc.
I am using Moxier Pre Release because TD won't handle my mailbox (not sure why).
It does do a number on the battery and I would not purchase it until that gets fixed. It also seems to be turning push on all the time. Service keeps reloading itself and that may be linked to the battery issue. Moxier team has some work to do, definitely. But don't count them out just yet, there's some things that they are definite doing right.
Now we have another option ROADSYNC from DATAVIZ. They released a beta version for now.
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Now we have another option ROADSYNC from DATAVIZ. They released a beta version for now.
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I tried it. It won't let me trust my self-signed cert so I can't use it yet.
I think TD is still the best bet. I just wish it would let me download the current content of select folders instead of only what is new. That's the one thing Moxier does that nothing else so far can do.
Have you guys tried Haykuro's H build, it has an Inbuid exchange client developed by HTS itself. it is by far the best one. almost as feature rich as any WinMo phone. You can even send and accept calender invitations. plus the contacts sync with phone contacts and it will show both GMail contacts and Exchange contacts. it is fast, feature rich, very low battery consumption. I am sure when the release build comes out All Moxier's and touchdown's will be out of business. cauz HTC one is free & some one will port it from Sapphire's build to released G1 cupcake build.
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Have you guys tried Haykuro's H build, it has an Inbuid exchange client developed by HTS itself. it is by far the best one. almost as feature rich as any WinMo phone. You can even send and accept calender invitations. plus the contacts sync with phone contacts and it will show both GMail contacts and Exchange contacts. it is fast, feature rich, very low battery consumption. I am sure when the release build comes out All Moxier's and touchdown's will be out of business. cauz HTC one is free & some one will port it from Sapphire's build to released G1 cupcake build.
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i prefer to have a fullty functional, stable working phone with myfaves.
I mostly agree with Henchman.
I don't mind being on the bleeding edge to some extent, but with certain apps still not working with the Haykuro builds and htc exchange apparently fubar'ing calander entries, I'm inclined to wait just a little bit longer.
I am tempted every day though. I may bite the bullet and do it anyway, I just haven't reached that point yet.
Backup your phone to NAND and test it out. Worst case, you re-flash with your previous build. I'm going to try it this weekend.
I'm horny for native exchange support, I really am.
Native exchange plus native USB or WiFi tethering makes me want to jizz my shorts. Not sure when or if the latter will arrive, but I will keep hope alive.
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Backup your phone to NAND and test it out. Worst case, you re-flash with your previous build. I'm going to try it this weekend.
I'm horny for native exchange support, I really am.
Native exchange plus native USB or WiFi tethering makes me want to jizz my shorts. Not sure when or if the latter will arrive, but I will keep hope alive.
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Well, I went ahead and flashed theDude's version even without exchange support. I just hope that it gets added soon. Right now, this is just a solid build and I'll live without exchange for a while longer if I have to.
i find myself unwilling to pay for an app that will become part of the OS soon, especially at the cost for touchdown and moxier.
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i find myself unwilling to pay for an app that will become part of the OS soon, especially at the cost for touchdown and moxier.
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Don't hold your breath.
I flashed the Haykuro update, and yes, it does exchange.
But the email client is still as lame as ever.
No multiple email selects to delete multiple emails.
Is there a way to extract that exchange program from Haykuros version so that we can use it on other 1.5 versions?
Been using MailShadow since the beginning.
Prefer it over TouchDown as it syncs all your exchange data with Gmail (contacts/calendar/email) so you get to use the built in Google apps. It's also better since it makes your ENTIRE exchange mailbox available via the gmail app.... all your folders (labels), etc. I do have TouchDown as a backup though just in case.
Only downside is that it needs to run on a desktop computer at all times to sync- doesn't matter to me though as my computer is always on.
Haykuro new ADP1.5Hr4
Upcoming features in ADP1.5Hr4:
+ Newer SuperUser app
+ HTC E-Mail client. (Exchange support should work.. more info on this feature as i progress)
+ Based on newer firmware.
Had both.
Moxier has too many bugs. Contacts with "work"-numbers not getting synced. Force closes if you click on the header of a mail.
No notification if a new mail is in a folder (have set up some rules on the server to see important mails directly).
Notification itself is crap. If you open Moxier directly, not through the statusbar, the icon will never disappear.
TD is working way better..
Support of Moxier is worst. Takes weeks to get any information..
TouchDown gave me a free license since I am a T-Mo employee so I use TouchDown....and I really like it.
I have been having with all the ROM's (and I have tried haykuro, JF, Rogers cyano, ramjet, virtudude etc. with the same error message 'cannot create the account, please try again later.'
Now, Moxier, RoadSync Beta and Touchdown all work just fine with the same inputs (SSL, exchange server name, user, passwd, domain etc.) I am giving the HTC mail app.
I Think the problem is ISA. My company uses ISA security.
All the 3rd party apps (Moxier, TD etc.) all support ISA, but I don't think the HTC mail app supports it.
Reason for this post is two-fold:
-I know there were/are others who are in the same boat, thought I'd at least pass this along
-Question is, the new Mytouch 3G announced clearly mentions Exchange support, so I am wondering how that can be since I have tried all variations/ROM's based on cupcake here already with no avail.
The only thing I haven't tried is the stock cupcake update which i don' think has Exchange? So does the MyTouch have a customized ROM or would ISA probably not work on MyTouch as well?
I am guessing the later?
KG
I think i know what is the issue, the account you are trying to create is Secured, and HTC mail client is not secured, and you will have the same issue with MyTouch 3G ,i tried it myself and i've got the same error (
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... the new Mytouch 3G announced clearly mentions Exchange support...
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Where do you get this information? http://www.t-mobilemytouch.com/ does not mention Exchange support anywhere.
username issue
Hi,
Have a look at this Thread
There are some issues with the exchange client, it could also be your server setup, check out Brian's comments in the thread.
That might help.
Cheers,
Jon
Make certain you are on Exchange 2007, 03 has way too many issues w/mobile devices, 07 has many designs based around mobile.
About the Exchange thing:
I imagine they're using advertising speak to say that you can get your Exchang email - which is possible over IMAP (depending on your Exchange server settings, obviously).
From what I understand, Google won't allow the "with Google" tag on phones that include ActiveSync.
The MyTouch3G most definitely is "with Google". So it's probably the IMAP thing.
I think it is the ISA issue. I also have the same problem with the stock HTC activesync exchange software. ISA option is the only difference I notice between the stock HTC activesync and the 3rd party apps (touchdown, moxier, etc)
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Where do you get this information? http://www.t-mobilemytouch.com/ does not mention Exchange support anywhere.
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Here is where i saw it, under Communication, it says Exchange supported:
http://androidcommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/t-mobile_mytouch_3g_fact-sheet_2.JPG
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Hi,
Have a look at this Thread
There are some issues with the exchange client, it could also be your server setup, check out Brian's comments in the thread.
That might help.
Cheers,
Jon
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Jon, ya, i have tried everything on there....besides, i don't have a user/pwd issue, it just keeps saying 'Account cannot be created'.
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Make certain you are on Exchange 2007, 03 has way too many issues w/mobile devices, 07 has many designs based around mobile.
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huh? this is not my decision to make. My company uses 2003, that's that. Dunno if/when they will upgrade to 2007, point was that 2003 works fine with Moxier, TD and Roadsync, that is all the other 3rd party apps work, only the HTC app doesn't work.
exchange contacts sync
Here is my issue with exchange. it sync all my contacts. after about a day, it comes back with 'client server conversion error' only way to fix it is to delete the account and start over. Any ideas on this one?
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Where do you get this information? http://www.t-mobilemytouch.com/ does not mention Exchange support anywhere.
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linked directly from this very link you posted:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/google/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218100660
where i work we use Zimbra which has an "exchange" server. It utterly fails on any HTC exchange support
touchdown works perfectly, iphone exchange works perfectly. Pre exchange works perfectly.
Right now this is the single biggest "fail" with android.
So anybody know if the Exchange s/w that comes with cupcake will do better than HTC's s/w? (i.e. will/does it have ISA access)?
It's too much work to try it out, would have to downgrade down to RC29->RC30->cupcake. And i would lose root?
I guess it would be too much to ask if someone on this board would be:
-running cupcake (stock)
-have an ISA exchange account to test with
*sigh*, this is literally the ONLY thing I hate about Android.
KG
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So anybody know if the Exchange s/w that comes with cupcake will do better than HTC's s/w? (i.e. will/does it have ISA access)?
It's too much work to try it out, would have to downgrade down to RC29->RC30->cupcake. And i would lose root?
I guess it would be too much to ask if someone on this board would be:
-running cupcake (stock)
-have an ISA exchange account to test with
*sigh*, this is literally the ONLY thing I hate about Android.
KG
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there is zero support for exchange most official builds. the builds that do have it, use HTC's poor implementation.
mongofrye said:
Here is my issue with exchange. it sync all my contacts. after about a day, it comes back with 'client server conversion error' only way to fix it is to delete the account and start over. Any ideas on this one?
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Here are some of my observations.
-JAC Hero - my HTC exchange works fine. Just can't seem to include original email in replies. I can't cut/paste either. No HTML.
**is this the same in Rogers builds?
-Dudes Rogers - wouldn't create account similar to you issue. Went back to hero.
JAC Hero - I reinstalled, but did not set up email durin begining phone setup. Later when configuring it would connect, show my folders, then fail to create account. I did a logcat and it is trying to delte an account that does not exist.
JAC Hero - reflashed and setup during phone setup and it works fine.
***anybody know the difference for HTC mail between Rogers and Hero??
I'd like to give Rogers a more solid try but need exchange.
-oldsk00lz
mongofrye said:
Here is my issue with exchange. it sync all my contacts. after about a day, it comes back with 'client server conversion error' only way to fix it is to delete the account and start over. Any ideas on this one?
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I got the same issues that you have with contacts i have tried the ravenge rom, The dudes rom and they i end up with the same error client server conversation error, sometimes i get "error occurred on the computer running the exchange server" and the only way to get rid of it if to delete the account and try again i have 586 contacts... My colleague has a G1 and running any of the above mentioned Rom's he gets no errors he has 150 contacts.
It could be that its toooo many contacts for the sync to handle, i have created a new Exchange account imported my 586 contacts and i will let you know how it goes in a day.
I cant live without exchange!!!! and i don't fancy buying touchdown (even though it works really well)
help solving this issue will be higly appreciated
kgdg said:
So anybody know if the Exchange s/w that comes with cupcake will do better than HTC's s/w? (i.e. will/does it have ISA access)?
It's too much work to try it out, would have to downgrade down to RC29->RC30->cupcake. And i would lose root?
I guess it would be too much to ask if someone on this board would be:
-running cupcake (stock)
-have an ISA exchange account to test with
*sigh*, this is literally the ONLY thing I hate about Android.
KG
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Then go get a Windows Mobile phone people are trying to help you, no need to be so impatient. Who can you really blame if it is a compatibility issue between Exchange 2003 and the app? HTC or your company for not keeping things up to date?
Also, I wouldn't say this thread belongs in Android development.
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I got the same issues that you have with contacts i have tried the ravenge rom, The dudes rom and they i end up with the same error client server conversation error, sometimes i get "error occurred on the computer running the exchange server" and the only way to get rid of it if to delete the account and try again i have 586 contacts... My colleague has a G1 and running any of the above mentioned Rom's he gets no errors he has 150 contacts.
It could be that its toooo many contacts for the sync to handle, i have created a new Exchange account imported my 586 contacts and i will let you know how it goes in a day.
I cant live without exchange!!!! and i don't fancy buying touchdown (even though it works really well)
help solving this issue will be higly appreciated
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NO luck with new exchange account and imported contacts help help help!!
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NO luck with new exchange account and imported contacts help help help!!
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I have the same problems... I have 138 contacts. I plan to back them up and strip there content down, like removing comments and contact images and see if that helps.
Hi,
I am thinking of creating an Android Exchange client as I am yet to find a 100% suitable one for my G1.
I currently use TouchDown which works acceptably, but I dont think the interface is particularly in keeping with the standard Android theme. It also seems to duplicate many aspects of the G1 features (calander etc) - why not integrate?
So I was wondering if anyone had some experience of programming (I do, before someone asks) in particular with Exchange history if possible, as I could do with some help and I am all for helping the Android community.
I haven't decided yet if the app will be FOSS or closed source, but if I were to charge it would be around the 1GBP mark - I'm not trying to pay the mortgage off, but something to reimburse the time spent is always nice. Maybe a lite version for free etc.
PM me if you are interested in helping out, I will probably setup a Google Code project or something.
Rich
I am not a programmer (sorry), but I just want to say there is definitely a market for good Exchange apps. The company I work for switched to G1s recently and we bought a few Touchdown licenses just for ActiveSync. I personally hate the TouchDown interface (sorry devs, you're nice and all but I am a fan of design as well as function!). If something was created that could do TouchDown's job (or better) and fit in with Android better, you'd have some people interested for sure.
rich,
I may be interested in working on this. I just got my ADP1, and have barely started playing with it. I'm still running touchdown under the free trial period.
Exchange sync is built into Android 2.0. I haven't played with a droid, so I don't know if it's implemented more like you're talking about or not, but that's certainly worth looking into before developing from scratch.
I know that the 2.0 build should support it, however most Exchange interfaces dont work on our setup
We use a different port for the SSL connection and this seems to break most Exchange implementations (excluding TouchDown). Is the Exchange support in the AOSP Email app?? Or is it like the HTC version?
I would find this very useful. As already said we have many G1 and Magic out there using Work Email and Touchdown....
My problem with a couple of the exchange syncs is they don't include Calendars and Contacts. What good is That? When they say Work Email they mean just that, email.
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Hi,
I am thinking of creating an Android Exchange client as I am yet to find a 100% suitable one for my G1.
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Hope you have the cash to buy an Activesync Exchange license. That is unless you're planning on using OWA , in which case I doubt folks would pay for an Exchange client without push.
richbayliss said:
I know that the 2.0 build should support it, however most Exchange interfaces dont work on our setup
We use a different port for the SSL connection and this seems to break most Exchange implementations (excluding TouchDown). Is the Exchange support in the AOSP Email app?? Or is it like the HTC version?
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I have tried the xROM based on the 2.0 AOSP and the mail client supports MS Exchange contacts and calender included.
I would certainly be very interested, especially if you managed to support exchange categories. Touchdown on my HTC Hero (v1.5) certainly doesnt, and neither does the built in HTC activesync program.
Ideally I want to have a month view calendar with the different calendar events shown on a daily timeline with a colour I can choose for each calendar category.
As far as I can find, I dont think that any of the current android/exchange syncing options even support or mention exchange categories!!!
The 2.0 email app is fully configurable to support exchange, you can change ports and ssl settings. Works perfectly.
There are a few issues that I have with the exchange solutions for Android.
1. Touchdown works, but I hate that it does not integrate into the existing framework. I know it can be done, look at SenseUI from HTC. Almost perfect! Just runs like crap on MyTouch.
2. Lack of integration (touched on point 1, but needed to be said).
3. Lack of full features. Seriously, WHY is there NO WAY to tell it what times to sync and what times not too. I don't need to get EVERY email that is sent between 10pm and 5am and then have my phone sqwaking all night. This bugs me about GMail data sync, I have to MANUALLY shut it off... ugh... Touchdown does this, SenseUI does not...
Anyway, a working, full featured integrated application would be worth paying for. Talk about enterprise licensing... People would be all over that... trust me...
Thanks,
could someone tell me how in the name of god u sync this crap phone with ur desktop ala active sync or what ever it's new alternative is because active sync doesn't seem to exist for this phone.
my htc hd2 worked fine until it broke and my insurance co replaced it with this heap of crap. i can't even sync my hotmail now without downloading about 1000 email contacts that i don't want on my phone.
not to mention the 500 or so contacts that i do actually want which are stored on my desktop pc with sbp back up which apparently isn't compatible either.
do i have input every one of these 500+ contacts manually now? i also had them backed up in microsoft my phone which doesn't seem compatible either with this thing.
is it just me that's having these probs? someone reassure me please and tell how to get my contacts onto it before i smash it off the wall in frustration.
i have them stored in sbp back up, microsoft my phone and a PimBackup.pib file,
how do i get them onto my phone, any method will do?
I really, really wish you people would read and do research before coming on here with ignorant, angry posts... Posts like this make people not want to help, to be completely honest, and most veteran users are going to respond with some "Search the damn forums" reply simply because of your approach...
If you want to sync hotmail without importing the contacts, don't click on the Hotmail selection when setting up the account, click "Other email" and do it like that so it'll only sync the e-mail, and not the contacts. Second, there are a few ways to sync contacts, easiest is through an exchange server or syncing them to your live account which will then sync them to the phone. MyPhone, SBP, and all of those outdated systems will not work.
For synchronization on Windows Phone 7 you must use Zune Software, ActiveSync was discontinued in WP7
You can get it hare
http://www.zune.net/en-US/products/software/download/default.htm
About contacts,
As far I know there is no simple way from moving you contacts WM6 to WP7
For example you can use Exchange (if your company use it) you can sync contacts from WP6 to server, and then connect to you company server from WP7 and sync it, and you get your contacts on WP7.
If you can’t use Exchange Server for any reason, you can sync it on Hotmail or Google Gmail, both supports Exchange ActiveSync, just sync you contacts from WM6 to your hotmail or gmail account, and then same way sync it on WP7
Hare is how to sync on Hotmail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704025
Or use this to sync to gmail using Exchange ActiveSync
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636
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I really, really wish you people would read and do research before coming on here with ignorant, angry posts... Posts like this make people not want to help, to be completely honest, and most veteran users are going to respond with some "Search the damn forums" reply simply because of your approach...
If you want to sync hotmail without importing the contacts, don't click on the Hotmail selection when setting up the account, click "Other email" and do it like that so it'll only sync the e-mail, and not the contacts. Second, there are a few ways to sync contacts, easiest is through an exchange server or syncing them to your live account which will then sync them to the phone. MyPhone, SBP, and all of those outdated systems will not work.
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i had searched the forums and it seemed there was no resolution to the contacts issue which quite frankly i was incensed over as it was the straw that broke the camels back with a phone i disliked a lot already. no tethering being another prob i can't get over, as i used my prev hd2 at least 50% of the time for this.
as for backing up my hd2 contacts in any other manner other than my outdated methods listed, that's completely impossible, my hd2 has broken, the insurance co now possess it. i did not know it was going to break nor did i realize my methods of backing up my info were so archaic and outdated. this is the replacement i was unfortunate enough to get from them.
as for the other re email contacts. i found the soln after posting but was too pissed to go back and edit. "you people", "ignorant"? fair enough if u want to label me that. thank you for ur opinion. i don't remember making a personal attack on u or anyone else but so be it. i thought my post wreaked of desperation and frustration after many many frustrating hrs with this "phone", i am not a techie at all, but obviously i was making a personal attack on u which warranted the personal attack on me. given the no. of posts u have i'm guessing ur a mod or vet member so i won't be surprised if i get a pm infracting or banning me for insulting u so deeply and personally.
Armarn, thanks very much for ur help, i appreciate it.
Far from either, but if that's your way of being frustrated or looking for assistance, I have a sippy cup for you, as for the contacts, I would Google a way to export them from MyPhone
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I love my HTC HD7, its a new phone and sure it has some bugs that need to be corrected. However if you dont like the phone then go buy yourself another one, and I search the forums or google it before you start a thread on a dead end subject!
So i love the captivate for phone calls, web, movies and other things, but when it comes to email and calendar it sort of sucks. Samsung just did a poor job. In email, deletes take forever (even with lag fix); read messages are hard to see because the transparency is whacked; calendar doesn't let me edit an event I created on the PC; no subfolders under inbox, etc.
I don't care about security - that is I don't need an APK with security removed or reduced, I just want better email.
Besides buying Touchdown do i have any options? K-9 doesn't do true push.
I was hoping we would see vanilla 2.2 ROM that used what Google was building in for Calendar and Exchange, but not yet. S
Suggestions? Anyone else as frustrated as me?
So everyone his happy with stock email and calendar, or no one uses Exchange?
alphadog00 said:
So everyone his happy with stock email and calendar, or no one uses Exchange?
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nope. i use touchdown
Pirateghost said:
nope. i use touchdown
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Yeah, but it still has some lag. I think i may be finally ready to throw in the towel on the Captivate. The form factor is great, the screen is great, and as a phone it is great; But even with the lagfix, it still takes time to open or manage anything with a decent database behind it. Samsung really made some dumb design choices.
I think i will give it one more week and see if I can stand Touchdown.
also interested in a better email. what choice do we have?
Go to the rom section, flash phoenix 4.5....live happily ever after.
It truly flies
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electroau said:
Go to the rom section, flash phoenix 4.5....live happily ever after.
It truly flies
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really?
your recommendation for better email and calendar is to flash a rom that has the same app as all the other roms?
sigh...
Android in general has a lousy email system. This isn't just a Samsung thing. The native email client just lacks so many of the essential features, especially for Corporate Active Sync accounts. I sure hope that Google makes some updates soon to this area on these phones. Touch down does the job but you're right, it's slow. As for K9, it does have true push technology. By configuring your account via IMAP, you can setup an IDLE connection which is Push. I have K9 set up with a couple other accounts and I receive notifications within seconds of mail hitting the server. However, K9 is full of features and if you're not familiar with it, it can take quite some time to get it set up just right for your account.
In regards to other ROMs with better email clients, I've flashed quite a few of them including Pheonix 4.5 and they're all pretty much the same. Currently I'm running Andromedia 1.1 (which is absolutely amazing), and the email client runs much better. But also, the whole phone is extremely fast. It's the only ROM that has actually put a WOW on my face in regards to performance. If you haven't tried that ROM I highly recommend it. As long as you do a clean flash from stock no bugs should be encountered. Everything just works and works fast!
Good luck!
I thought lag was the issue, sorry
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yeah man. if your phone lags, you're definitely behind the times or still running eclair. which is absolutely horrible. you need to go flash phoenix or firelfy. they have little to no lag at all and a quick as hell. i'm not sure what email you use but i use gmail and it's almost faster than i can push the buttons.
electroau said:
I thought lag was the issue, sorry
Sent from my captivate using the flames of the phoenix
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task650 said:
yeah man. if your phone lags, you're definitely behind the times or still running eclair. which is absolutely horrible. you need to go flash phoenix or firelfy. they have little to no lag at all and a quick as hell. i'm not sure what email you use but i use gmail and it's almost faster than i can push the buttons.
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guys,
if you have not used touchdown or stock email client on an exchange server then you dont have any idea what is being talked about here....this has nothing to do with voodoo/ULF. these apps DO lag regardless of what rom you are on....i chalk it up to poor exchange support overall in android. honestly though, any of these options work better than my iphones ever did
I use the Paragon 5.1 ROM and the stock email in there to connect to Hotmail that has been set up as an Exchange Active Sync partner for mail, calendar, and contacts. I can update on phone or pc and it is really instantaneous. I enter something on my phone calendar and it shows up online within 10 seconds. Same goes for adding or editing new contacts in my phonebook.
Pirateghost said:
guys,
if you have not used touchdown or stock email client on an exchange server then you dont have any idea what is being talked about here....this has nothing to do with voodoo/ULF. these apps DO lag regardless of what rom you are on....i chalk it up to poor exchange support overall in android. honestly though, any of these options work better than my iphones ever did
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Seriously man? That's a bad statement. I'm not an iPhone fan but have used one in the past an can tell you that with email it blows Android away. You even get the ability to have notifications for sub-folders in active sync which is huge. However, even though email seems very basic on Android with exchange it does sync reliably for email, contacts and calendars. What specific features are you looking for?
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greystealth said:
Seriously man? That's a bad statement. I'm not an iPhone fan but have used one in the past an can tell you that with email it blows Android away. You even get the ability to have notifications for sub-folders in active sync which is huge. However, even though email seems very basic on Android with exchange it does sync reliably for email, contacts and calendars. What specific features are you looking for?
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notes, tasks, proper signature support, html emails. how about when you have an event in your calendar that has a phone number it would let you tap that number to call it? yes, there are hacky ways of getting these features, but nothing all wrapped up in one package...except for touchdown. the ONLY thing i dont really like about touchdown is the interface, it needs to be more customizable or blend better with the way the rest of the phone looks, instead of sticking out like a sore thumb.
i had iphones for nearly 3 years, and i currently have an ipad also, and the email was acceptable. no, android isnt caught up to that yet, but its getting there and i completely support the push forward. i would still pick my android over going back to the iphone. you do realize that it took nearly 2 years for the iphone to get proper exchange support right? since android is basically just now getting into supporting exchange (as of version 2.0? 2.1?), we should see some good stuff on the horizon in the near future.
Op, have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821297&highlight=exchange
I have, and it has better folder support, and seems to work pretty well for ActiveSync. The folder navigation is much easier.
Use Root explorer, go into /system/app/ , rename Email.apk to Email.old and email.odex to emailodex.old, reboot, and your email app will be missing.
Just open this .apk with "my files" or any file manager, or Root explorer, and install.
See if that works better.
One place where the IPHone e-mail client works much nicer is when you have a lot of folders in your mailbox. Navigating is easier than the ultra-stupid "scroll like a madman left-and-right" method of the stock client.. I use ActiveSync as well, and I find the ActiveSync support, while improved in 2.2, can be very "kooky" for lack of a better term.
Hope that helps.
PirateGhost My friend moved the Touchdown client to the SD card and said he felt it was faster, but he's not lag-fixed or rooted, so I don't know what his frame of reference is. Might be something you could try.
I just installed an app called "enhanced email" Its much like the native email client but works much smoother. You can also move stuff between folders and it seemlessly integrates into all your other stuff. Check it I'm loving it so far.
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greystealth said:
I just installed an app called "enhanced email" Its much like the native email client but works much smoother. You can also move stuff between folders and it seemlessly integrates into all your other stuff. Check it I'm loving it so far.
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Looks like an interesting alternative to TouchDown.
Does it support peak/off peak sync scheduling? I looked through their market listing and their forum but I couldn't find an answer.
I just checked and it does not. It also doesn't do notes or tasks. I would say that Touch down is more robust. This app is very much like the default email app but better.
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Pirateghost said:
guys,
if you have not used touchdown or stock email client on an exchange server then you dont have any idea what is being talked about here....this has nothing to do with voodoo/ULF. these apps DO lag regardless of what rom you are on....i chalk it up to poor exchange support overall in android. honestly though, any of these options work better than my iphones ever did
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I would like to correct you as I am using FireFly and I have ZERO lag with the stock email client. I use it for email, calendar, and contact sync. I'm very happy with it and it does everything I need. So, flashing a custom ROM will make your phone faster including email...
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I would like to correct you as I am using FireFly and I have ZERO lag with the stock email client. I use it for email, calendar, and contact sync. I'm very happy with it and it does everything I need. So, flashing a custom ROM will make your phone faster including email...
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do you have any idea how a rom works or what it consists of?
what you have said makes NO sense whatsoever based on that context. i have been working on andromeda in its various stages since DECEMBER. i have tried EVERY ROM available to us on both of my captivates, i have tried EVERY form of lagfix/filesystem available, even your coveted firefly....and i can tell you that it doesnt matter what rom you are on...there is a lag. im not talking about the time it takes you to get the email from the exchange server to the phone, or variances between outlook and the phone, i am talking about opening FOLDERS and emails. there is a lag in the system.... if you think otherwise, you are lying to yourself to make it all feel better.
also, how about you open up an item on your calendar (conference call for example) and tap on the phone number to dial the line....
go on....
im waiting....
unless of course you are using the AOSP email app which allows that....in that case, set yourself up a signature in your settings and REPLY to an email....see if that signature is there.
how come we cant get all these exchange features in ONE app? touchdown doesnt include them all, but its the best available right now
sorry, but exchange support is MINIMAL at best in Android, so please keep the 'this rom cured aids!!' talk out of it. i never said a custom rom wouldnt make your phone faster, i just said it doesnt help EMAIL WITH EXCHANGE