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UPGRADE Utility not working in VISTA?

I have actually windows XP and Windows VISTA installed in my PC. I never had problems upgrading Roms using windows xp. However, today, the upgrade utility failled in windows VISTA. When the upg utlity goes for upgrading (after checking and sowed the rom instaled in the device), WIN VISTA close the app. So that, the wizard is left in BL mode and nothin more happens.
Does anyone get successfully upgrade the wizard using VISTA?
Thank you

No, its not working.

Confirmed, not working.

Flashing ROM's + Vista = NOPE!
Hi folks,
I can also confirm that flashing ROM's with Windows Vista does not work.
I tried different compatability settings but no chance.
I am working with the final version of Windows© Vista Ultimate RTM...had the same problems with the Vista betas.

dual boot or vm w/ xp

yes not supported yet by htc
i remember emailing htc about this issue and they said they currently have no plans to make the rom utillities compatible in running windows vista!

So, If they have no plans to make upg utilities Vista compatibles. I would say HTC needs a upgrade. for now any similar company are working hard to make their softs vista compatible.

Yeah, this really sucks for me since I have been running Vista exclusively since the RTM came out.

d'oh...that sucks...I just upgraded to Vista last week.

I think the reason that htc is not supporting vista rom upgrade compatablity is because crossbow will conduct upgrades from the platform/unit itself. I think i've read it somewhere.

hiimcliff said:
I think the reason that htc is not supporting vista rom upgrade compatablity is because crossbow will conduct upgrades from the platform/unit itself. I think i've read it somewhere.
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Can see if you can find that article. I am curious on how that is going to work.

that's funny because they promised that for the original release of WM5 also.
Microsoft... they make me giggle with their blown deadlines and empty promises.
-Mc

its the photon version he is talking about bink article

Scratch VMWARE
Downloaded and installed VMWARE v6 build 36983 on my windows Vista machine. Running Vista Ultimate build 6.0.6000 (MS Technet Direct download).
Installed Windows XP SP2 into VMWARE and got all updates, patches, etc...
Installed ActiveSync 4.2 on the virtual XP 'puter...
Attached HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125) via USB and activesync picked up device. Wow! this is gonna work (so I thought)
Went to flash rom and it started out well enough... Phone went to load the rom screen, and then I get the "VMWARE workstation unrecoverable error" message... Rom didn't even start to load (thankfully) and I just pulled battery and turned phone back on... No prob...
Haven't had time to look at the dump yet to see what went wrong, but as of now, VMWARE doesn't appear to be an option either....

Anyone else tried VMWARE??
Come on ppl, someone out there smarter than me has had to try the VMWARE thing besides me and gotten it to work
Maybe once Vista is finally "released" to the masses, not just us "technet" or "MSDN" subscribers, support will magically appear...
As an aside, (for those thinking about getting Vista and Office 2K7) you can get Technet Direct Plus for about $290-$300 if you shop around... Sure, you have to download and make your own media, but you save about $100-$150 bucks for your trouble...
You get Vista and Office 2K7 Ultimate and can activate on up to 10 different machines... Also get XP, XP MCE, Office 2003, Exchange, etc....

In a german forum they are talking about flashing and that it is possible.
They did simunlock and flash WM& with vista.
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=109541&highlight=vista

vista ruu works...
did you guys follow these steps? ultimate works fine for me;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
here's a wiki;
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_WindowsVista

dcoelho said:
So, If they have no plans to make upg utilities Vista compatibles. I would say HTC needs a upgrade. for now any similar company are working hard to make their softs vista compatible.
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No plans for vista from my company either. Ever. Not until MS fixes their anti-competitive problems like driver signing, and stops imposing DRM crap on system functions. Just because a company releases some new platform does not mean it will have software support. If you want a functional platform look into Linux or XP. Both of witch have massive software support.
Most of the Apps I write run on OS X & Linux which have strong cross platform compatibility. XP is just a side OS, and buggy at that, with no cross platform compatibility. Vista more so. I would never recoup costs by developing for Vista so there is no point in it. It would be a tax write off and a waste of time and resources. Until Microsoft releases a platform that does what it is supposed to, and that is function as a platform, and not an advertising bus load of crap, then it will gain more support by independent software companies.
The purpose of a platform is to run software. If it cannot do that, then it is worthless. The function of a computer is to increase productivity, and make life easier. If Vista cannot do that, then ditch it, and get a platform that works. Stop expecting the world to evolve around a single company. If M$ was bombed with nukes tomorrow, the world would have to learn how to use a computer instead of playing with one. I would laugh, then run down the street naked shouting rejoice.
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OryHara said:
No plans for vista from my company either. Ever. Not until MS fixes their anti-competitive problems like driver signing, and stops imposing DRM crap on system functions. Just because a company releases some new platform does not mean it will have software support. If you want a functional platform look into Linux or XP. Both of witch have massive software support.
Most of the Apps I write run on OS X & Linux which have strong cross platform compatibility. XP is just a side OS, and buggy at that, with no cross platform compatibility. Vista more so. I would never recoup costs by developing for Vista so there is no point in it. It would be a tax write off and a waste of time and resources. Until Microsoft releases a platform that does what it is supposed to, and that is function as a platform, and not an advertising bus load of crap, then it will gain more support by independent software companies.
The purpose of a platform is to run software. If it cannot do that, then it is worthless. The function of a computer is to increase productivity, and make life easier. If Vista cannot do that, then ditch it, and get a platform that works. Stop expecting the world to evolve around a single company. If M$ was bombed with nukes tomorrow, the world would have to learn how to use a computer instead of playing with one. I would laugh, then run down the street naked shouting rejoice.
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Yes, cause I'm certain that syncing our phones and flashing the roms works much better in Linux or OS X than it does in Vista or XP.
I can say that I have been running Vista since before it was released, XP likewise. I have had very little trouble with either of them not running software. The ROM update program for our phones is one of the few pieces of software (outside of security and some utility type apps) that I've seen be a problem with Vista. Most of the problems that do arise are from the new security features preventing software from running in ways that it probably shouldn't have been programmed to in the first place (like trying to run as session 0 or mucking with the kernel).

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Yes, cause I'm certain that syncing our phones and flashing the roms works much better in Linux or OS X than it does in Vista or XP.
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Under Linux, yes, it would be much easier, and the research would be easier as well. My staff flashes close to 20 routers a day with Linux boxen. Very easy to do.
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I can say that I have been running Vista since before it was released, XP likewise. I have had very little trouble with either of them not running software. The ROM update program for our phones is one of the few pieces of software (outside of security and some utility type apps) that I've seen be a problem with Vista. Most of the problems that do arise are from the new security features preventing software from running in ways that it probably shouldn't have been programmed to in the first place (like trying to run as session 0 or mucking with the kernel).
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From your reply it seems like you are a end user, and not a developer, and probably have no idea what driver signing is, what it involves, and how DRM crippled Vista really is, especially if you are using < Ultimate edition.
When it comes to flashing phones, this is why the carriers are NOT going to support Vista for a while, if not ever. You could quite easily brick a phone because of some subvertive driver function that M$ has no public documentation on. Thats why my company doesn't support vista with our routers.

Vista Vs. XP Vs. Win7 on Shift?

Hello Everyone,
I recently got my HTC Shift with Windows Vista Pre Loaded and it always seems to me a bit slow while running many stuffs together such as messenger with Internet explorer together. I don't tried loading any other windows yet. Can someone please confirm which is suferfast on HTC Shift? i.e; XP, Vista or Win7?
Thank you for your help....

In me experience XP is fastest, follwed by W7, and miles behind Vista. Currently I'm running Vista though...I tend to change every 6 weeks or so...I find once Vista has loaded ( a long time!) it isn't too bad for normal surfing or word processing. W7 started much quicker but I had some issues with it always trying to find the snapvue modem and not allowing me to access WiFi...a bizarre issue.
May go back to XP but I really like the resolution changer in Vista/W7.

FOOFTR said:
May go back to XP but I really like the resolution changer in Vista/W7.
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Do you mean we are not able to change the display resolution in windows XP like in vista...?

mustking said:
Do you mean we are not able to change the display resolution in windows XP like in vista...?
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To me, W7 is the best compromise. You have all the functions, including touch screen writing, and better speed.

mustking said:
Do you mean we are not able to change the display resolution in windows XP like in vista...?
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Some of us had issues getting a resolution fix to work with our devices...so in Xp there is no standard way to change resolution. I agree with thaihugo that W7 is the best compromise and will buy a proper upgrade when it comes out (retail).

There is one thing you should know about windows 7 before loading it on your shift. It's terribly unstable for games, especially older ones.
I was able to get world of warcraft running on it, but every other classic game I've tried so far, crashes windows 7.
For everything that isn't gaming related, Windows 7 is great. But Windows Vista is the only operating system which will actually use the hardware of your shift in the right way.
Caid.
444

Win 7 new build
Are there still problems using Windows 7 newer builds on HTC Shift ?
On RC1 I had the following problems: Using or not using AERO, it crashes when accessing Windows Media Center [BSOD], also when runing AERO and button-switch resolutions.
Please if any post, say what build are you using and the problems you have.
I really really want to get along with Win7 on my HTC Shift but as much as I worked to fix those problems it still doesn't work properly.
PS: I will install Win7 in aprox 2weeks when the RTM release is on, and I want Ubuntu 9.04 too with dual boot.
I do NOT game with my HTC Shift, I use Windows for programming and stuff, and Ubuntu for browsing and some ssh. I really hope that Microsoft fix these problems and Windows 7 will run with no problems on HTC Shift

I absolutley LOVE W7 RC1 7100 on Shift, (and my PC's and my tablets, and my laptops for that matter). Any XP or Vista lovers, take note of W7 and start to migrate there
WinMedCetner works IF you dont maximize to full screen, but you can stretch the window to almost full screen. (I know, sucky, but hey, its an answer right?)
Also, I can get the bubbles screen saver to work on shift, but you are all right, AERO does crash it....Not the worst of things to have to give up in my opinion, becuase I still get the Hover Thumbnail Preview for running Applications.
As for games, I'm not your man...I strictly stick to business programs, but have not had any problems with anythign I use, and there is a long list I ahve installed.
My vote is Go for W7! The absolute BEST thing you can do to your Shift!

Bradaland said:
I absolutley LOVE W7 RC1 7100 on Shift, (and my PC's and my tablets, and my laptops for that matter). Any XP or Vista lovers, take note of W7 and start to migrate there
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Thnx mate i am installing win7 now to my shift i am installing RC and let me see the magic
I will later also try to install win XP. actually my main concern is the most available ram to run my softwares... I run Yahoo, MSN, Internet Security and bunch of other programs....
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well...
Here's the thing about windows 7. It seems that almost all of the issues that people have, are somehow related to the way win7 handles the shift's video drivers. What this means is, there's a strong chance that anything which requires graphical resources may end up blue screening the shift. This doesn't happen with vista. I'm not sure about XP, but it's a glaring problem for windows 7.
I know windows 7 wasn't designed for the shift, however, it's a shame to have the added efficiency of windows 7 on the shift, with such a disabling exception. Frankly, all of these issues are most certainly related to how windows 7 tries to use the shift's video accelerator.
My logic is, if Vista can do it, Windows 7 should technically be able to as well, the only problem is, Microsoft isn't in charge of driver research for the shift, HTC is. And to HTC, this is of no urgency, for more than one reason.
The shift isn't meant to run Win7, is the first reason, secondly, all development into the Shift and it's drivers has been abandoned. Basically, I don't think enough people bought a shift, which caused HTC to take the "good enough" attitude towards it. They're not going to put anymore effort into improving a device that *while cool and all* is far inferior to most netbooks out today.
Sure, the Shift is a pretty cool device after you come to XDA and enable the phone options and such, but frankly, it's half as powerful as a comparitively priced netbook, and out of the box, not as versatile on account of it's poor processing power. It's been labelled as a tablet PC, and only to it's user base is it known as so much more than that.
The possibilities of the shift are very great, but the effort needed to reach those possibilities is more than what is available today.
Personally, I'd like to see the shift have a second chance, and it would be cool if HTC felt the same. But from what I've seen on behalf of HTC, this is a cold case file for them. I guess I'll have to see what I can get done on my own from China, tonnes of talented programmers here who should be able to churn out results. I'm even prepared to begin hiring a couple programmers who've been affected by the financial crisis, and see about solving some issues which could most certainly be worked out.
This driver issue, is one that by all means of reason, should be solvable, so long as there is no severe OS function which is fundamentally flawed between Vista and Win7, as far as the Shift is concerned.
I suppose the next question would be, if I did try to get a project like this going, what other ideas of improvements could be thought of to improve the shift experience? I know people would like to see BT, Wifi and SD cards on the winmo side, that unfortunately would be an ongoing effort whereas I'm more concerned with working on finishable projects during the resolution of greater issues like winmo's BTWiFiSD problem.
Any ideas, or support would be greatly appreciated.
My next step, and possibly the most difficult, will be convincing my wife that buying another shift (for the programmers to work on) is actually a worthwhile thing. She's not into tech, and doesn't much like my addiction
Caid.
444.

I like your enthusiasm with the Shift Caid. Truth be told its only Shift fans who know its goodness. Its like owning a Jeep. Nobody else can understand and when people ask questions they are simply told "IT'S A JEEP THING". So I guess ours too "IS A SHIFT THING". We still cherish our underpowered gadget even knowing its limitations. But honestly can I buy another Shift? I dont know. Even if my current shift was to somehow explode and burn into ashes I dont think I would replace it with another shift. Or maybe I would! But as long as I have it I will love it and continue to improve it.....
The biggest advantage with the Shift is when you plug a car charger into the cigarete lighter. There aren't many full fledged comps that you can charge with a 12V DC socket, you know.... I know there are DC-AC converters but thats a story for another day!
Now if only we can get a solution for BT-SD-Wifi winmo side........

Can I install Windows Vista Ultimate on the Shift. Love it.
Thanks

Hmm, I installes all of them, the most native. (Vista as an Upgrade to SP2 and Office 2007 SP2) And: It is the slowest what I known.
Windows 7 is nice, but with the newest RC we must rebuild the HowTo for installing Windows 7, some of the old original HTC Vista Homepage drivers not needed anymore.
best practice for all members here is, to make a Windows XP Slipstream to SP3, the modify the slipstreamed TabletPC Edition source with the programm nlite (and remove many not neccersary drivers and thems and so on, and build a bootable USB Stick Version with the small tool winsetupfromusb.
If work all together and have a look to the "last session" File of nlite, all people can have a really nice and "the fastest" and most compatible Windows XP Tablet edition multilanguage of all time.
Ans the builders of this perfect solution don´t need share their own TabletPC Edition product key, lets only have a look to the *.ini file of Nlite building, and many Ideas come together ;-)

from Diamond to Trinity, new ROMs and Vista 64bit

Hi all, i have finally just bought a diamond to replace my Trinity. After changing the ROM numerous times on the Trinity (thanks XDA-developers for the advice and knowledge to do this) I will obviously be doing the same on the Diamond.
I have only one question. I use Vista 64bit at home (it came pre-installed on the laptop before any one asks) and i couldn't get the ROM upgrade to work for the trinity, even after installing Vista drivers and many hours of trying. I switched to an XP machine at work and it worked first time, only problem is work doesn't like me spending hours playing around with my phone while i should be working.
So my question is has any one here tried to do ROM/HardSPL/radio upgrades using Vista 64bit?
Thanks
Smiffy

you can install ms virtual pc 2007 on your vista64bit and instal xp 32bit as a virtual machine and do it that way

HTC TyTN II - Windows 7 - Help Please!!!

I've almost but given up on this, can someone please help me. I'm trying to get my HTC TyTN II to sync with my windows 7 ultimate laptop (64 bit)
I'm trying to install windows mobile device centre 6.1 (the latest, I've downloaded and tried it again a few minutes ago). I've tried both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the software and it just won't install It gives me the dialog box asking me 'Do you want the windows mobile device centre to make changes to your computer' If I click on 'yes' that's it, nothing else happens
Is there any hope? I can't believe microsoft could have released such a ****ty os with no proper testing with windows mobile devices. This used to work flawlessly with activesync
Please, any help will be really appreciated. I've seen some posts about people having luck with this

Run it as administrator = problem solved.

[Q] screen recording for windows phone

Please help me
i cant update my pc to windows 7
but i want project my screen for windows xp
or if anyone know any other software to record windows phone screen then please say me
TIA

Dude, if you're still running XP (which is 14 years old and unsupported, with serious known security issues) you have much bigger problems than not being able to record your phone's screen.
Considering that Win8.1 will run on any computer manufactured in the last eight years or so, and that you can buy an entire Win8.1 machine for less than $300 even at full retail pricing, I'm skeptical of your claim that you *can't* upgrade.