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Question about updating radio and SPL

Right now I am running Cyanogen 3.6.5 with the radio and SPL that have not been updated for a while (they are not the latest ones for sure).
Anyway in case I want to try out a Hero rom I want to update the radio and SPL, can I just update those with my current rom without having to reflash the rom?

I haven't touched my SPL, but I can tell you the radio is easy. Same as any flash - rename to update.zip and drop it on the sdcard. Reboot to recovery and flash. ROM will be fine.
Go to Settings > About phone
Check the Baseband version -- If it ends with .26I you have the latest.
I do know, when flashing the "DangerSPL" for Hero builds, you need to boot into fastboot mode (Camera+Power) and look for the text "PVT" in the first line on the rainbow screen. If you don't see PVT, you have the revision that bricks when flashed to DangerSPL

gecko666 said:
Right now I am running Cyanogen 3.6.5 with the radio and SPL that have not been updated for a while (they are not the latest ones for sure).
Anyway in case I want to try out a Hero rom I want to update the radio and SPL, can I just update those with my current rom without having to reflash the rom?
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When you flash the new SPL you will have to reflash your rom because the SPL will overwrite your rom.

supremeteam256 said:
When you flash the new SPL you will have to reflash your rom because the SPL will overwrite your rom.
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Ok I kinda understand that part but if after flashing the radio and SPL I flash the same rom (Cyanogen 3.6.5) again without wiping will all my settings and apps remain as they were before the update?

gecko666 said:
Ok I kinda understand that part but if after flashing the radio and SPL I flash the same rom (Cyanogen 3.6.5) again without wiping will all my settings and apps remain as they were before the update?
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Use the method in post #3 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593 it worked perfectly for me and yes your settings and apps remain the same.

One last question before I do this. I went into settings as well as checked at the fastboot screen and seems like I have the latest radio already and from what I read on this topic I should NOT reflash it right? About the SPL though how can I check what version I have? And if I already have the latest one and flash it again will I end up with a brick? Thanks everyone for your help.

gecko666 said:
One last question before I do this. I went into settings as well as checked at the fastboot screen and seems like I have the latest radio already and from what I read on this topic I should NOT reflash it right? About the SPL though how can I check what version I have? And if I already have the latest one and flash it again will I end up with a brick? Thanks everyone for your help.
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Don't flash Radio again if you have the latest. (2.22.19.26I) Power off your phone then hold the Camera button down and press the On button (red button) you should see a white screen with 3 lil' Androids on skateboards, up top it should say DREAM PVT (32B ENG S-OFF) <---might be different but second lines shows your SPL, for example mine is HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000) and if you have the latest SPL then don't flash it again your good to go. One more thing MAKE SURE IT SAYS (PVT) AND MAKE SURE YOU FLASH RADIO BEFORE FLASHING SPL IF BOTH UPDATES ARE NEEDED! Can't stress this enough because if you do this wrong you'll definitely get a Brick.

Cool thanks. I do have PVT and the latest radio, guess it's just the SPL. Thanks again for your help.

URGENT: flashing back to stock for warrenty - all gone wrong

hi
i've need some help urgently on this as the phone is being picked up in the morning and its currently going really bad
i had dutties 3.9 rom on, but i found a 1.19 orange rom in the wiki, so installed this.
however the display is very bad, and is only showing 16 colours so looks rubbish
I belive this is to do with the SPL
This is what i did:
1. put phone in bootloader mode (was displaying SPL 1.56)
2. ran blac_uspl.exe in USB mode which changed the SPL to 1.15 (USPL)
3. installed the rom
did i do something wrong?
any help VERY appreciated
Thanks

Did you tried to flash back your original SPL??
USPL is just a temporary patch of the SPL...
I think you have to flash back to SPL 1.15...
To check if you have the right version put phone in bootloader mode it should displaying SPL 1.15...

Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
D'rath

Ikkari said:
Did you tried to flash back your original SPL??
USPL is just a temporary patch of the SPL...
I think you have to flash back to SPL 1.15...
To check if you have the right version put phone in bootloader mode it should displaying SPL 1.15...
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thats the problem
i dont know how?

D'rath said:
Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
D'rath
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Thanks but thats for Hard SPL, where as i used USPL
or am i getting it all wrong?

D'rath said:
Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
D'rath
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Just look in the first post under:
How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!

very strange
its working now
just needed a hard reset!
thanks for your help
edit------------
scratch that, its displaying them stupid colours again
GREAT!

m.r.davies said:
Thanks but thats for Hard SPL, where as i used USPL
or am i getting it all wrong?
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You are getting it wrong!
USPL is a temporary patch to allow you to flash a unauthorized ROM!
You have currently SPL 1.56 installed, but you need flash back stock SPL 1.15

Ikkari said:
You are getting it wrong!
USPL is a temporary patch to allow you to flash a unauthorized ROM!
You have currently SPL 1.56 installed, but you need flash back stock SPL 1.15
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thanks
i understand the problem now
but the link that was posted talks about hard spl, and when it says about reverting the rom, it talks about using hard spl, which is where i'm getting confused
Could you clarify which steps i need to take as its still showing spl 1.54
thanks

m.r.davies said:
thanks
i understand the problem now
but the link that was posted talks about hard spl, and when it says about reverting the rom, it talks about using hard spl, which is where i'm getting confused
Could you clarify which steps i need to take as its still showing spl 1.54
thanks
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go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
view the very last part of first post. It teaches you EVERYTHING. I think the part that you confused is going from step3 to step4. Read carefully. =)
good luck.

m.r.davies said:
hi
i've need some help urgently on this as the phone is being picked up in the morning and its currently going really bad
i had dutties 3.9 rom on, but i found a 1.19 orange rom in the wiki, so installed this.
however the display is very bad, and is only showing 16 colours so looks rubbish
I belive this is to do with the SPL
This is what i did:
1. put phone in bootloader mode (was displaying SPL 1.56)
2. ran blac_uspl.exe in USB mode which changed the SPL to 1.15 (USPL)
3. installed the rom
did i do something wrong?
any help VERY appreciated
Thanks
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1. dnload the stock spl from the said thread.
2. dnload the hspl 1.56 olinex wrapper
3. connect ur fone to pc in the bootloader mode.
4. run the hspl 1.56 olinex wrapper and do nothing to the onscreen utility.
5. wait fr the files to be xtracted in the window from where u ran the hspl wrapper.
6. replace the self extracted ruu_signed.nbh with the stock spl 1.15 that u downloaded.
7. continue with the ruu utility.
thats all thts needed..

ultimatepichu said:
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
view the very last part of first post. It teaches you EVERYTHING. I think the part that you confused is going from step3 to step4. Read carefully. =)
good luck.
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Thanks
yes you're right, it solved my problem
the reason i didn't try in the first place was becuase the title said HARD SPL and i didn't want to mess it up as i used USPL
i used Restore_Stock_SPL_115.zip and swapped the nbh file after initilizing installation (after extraction) and it worked great
thanks for all your help guys!!!!!!
i really appreiciate it

My god, I was feeling your anguish while reading this topic until the end...

Black Antitoon said:
My god, I was feeling your anguish while reading this topic until the end...
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I eventually went to bed at 2:30am
all sorted now and got my new phone!
woohoo

SPL ??

how do you find out what spl you have ?
can someone breifly explain to me what SPL is
and i right in thinking SPL is what can make a brick ?

hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.

Downgrade to Hard SPL from Danger SPL??
AdrianK said:
hold camera and power to boot in to the SPL (when the phone is off) and it will tell you. A rainbow screen means it's stock.
The SPLs other than stock allow you to use fastboot to flash things like splash images and restore nandroid backups. Haykuro's SPL (aka "Danger SPL") allows you to run HTC based ROMs like Hero and Rogers. Make sure you have the cupcake/1.5 radio (which you should already have) before flashing, otherwise it will brick.
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When I rooted my phone I installed Haykuro's danger spl with the latest radio. I didn't know it can potentially brick your phone (hence the danger part lol). I'm running cyanogen 4.0.1 and it's working just fine so far but I had 3 questions
1) Is Hykuro's Danger SPL only risky during the installation process or can it still possibly brick your phone after a successful installation (in other words, elaborate on the "danger" part please)
2) Can I downgrade to Hard SPL after installing the Danger SPL
3) How would I downgrade to Hard SPL?
Thanks guys!!!

If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.

Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)

rondey- said:
If you are using Haykuro's spl there is no need to downgrade, it will allow you to run anything the hard spl will and more. The only "danger" with haykuros spl is when you flash it, if you successfully flashed it then you have nothing to worry about.
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AdrianK said:
Rodey is correct, that H's SPL does everything hardSPL does (fastboot ect) and sloows you to run HTC Based ROMs. I don't know why you would want to downgrade but if you do it should be as simple as flashing the hardSPL update.zip. Get a secind opinion on that though if you want to try it, I'm no hardSPL expert.
You will only brick your phone with haykuro's SPL if you dont have a PVT board (camer+power to boot in to SPL, it will tell you) and if you dont have to 1.5 radio. To check either in the SPL or Settings > about phone check the baseband is version 2.22.19.26 (if you go to about phone there will be some crap before the number, ignore it).
IMO H's SPL is just handy to have. As long as you have the new radio and a PVT board nothing *touch wood* should go wrong.
One more thing, when flashing the SPL, don't play hot potato with your phone ;-)
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Thank you guys! In that case I'll just keep H's SPL seeing that I already installed it successfully without bricking my phone (yay)
Really appreciate both of your time!

You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Unless you are Unrooting and flash the original spl. I've done this many times so I know it works.

Does SPL: 1.33.2005 help the regular ROMS run better (Cyanogen's)?
I use dxTop, seems to run out of memory quickly.

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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Thanks for the warning!

i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx

sasa3791 said:
i've installed CM 4.0.1 and Recovery 1.4 (wit Recovery Flasher), but without Hard SPL and OTA Radio, after that installed Dark Hero Theme and all works ok.
can some1 tell me do i need reinstall everthyng and install hard spl and ota radio, and how can i do that?
thx
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If you didn't downgrade to RC29/7 then you should have the 1.5 radio. Check by going to Settings > About Phone and baseband version. It should be 2.22.19.26I.
I think you can just flash HardSPL as update.zip as you are, but I' not completely sure...

nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I swear I've heard people say they have, but dowgrading the radio after installing Danger SPL did cause bricks...
I'll go check
You WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade your radio after flashing the new SPL or if you do not have the latest radio installed before flashing the new SPL
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Hmm can't find anyone that said they did :-(

FYI
FYI
@Adrian K and nephron
When I unrooted my spare G1, I got it completely back to stock (circa October original shipment stock)
I downgraded my SPL successfully from the danger SPL all the way back to the original SPL. Also when I downgraded back DREAIMG.nbh, I confirmed at the time that the radio downgraded with it. My original post was on the unlockr.com when I was trying to help David of unlockr.com with some tutorials.
My original quote from unlockr
BTW: I have confirmed via the bootloader that the radio DOWNGRADES back to stock by applying the DREAIMG.nbh update FYI
From the bootloader I am now at
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Sep 2 2008
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nephron said:
You cant downgrade SPL's!!!!!!
IT HAS PROVEN TO BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!! DO NOT DOWNGRADE FROM DANGER SPL!
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I think it's downgrading the Radio, while on Danger SPL that will brick your phone b.

I have also gone from Hard to Danger back to Hard again with no issues.

if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...

polarbearmc said:
if i use the 1click root method and then install cyanogens 4.0.1... do i actually need to do the hardspl and the radio or is that all taken care of? that's the only thing that's confusing me a little bit...
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If you are talking about the one click method that is know on the market as recovery flasher, that only takes care of granting root access and flashing cyanogen's recovery image. The radio and spl upgrades are on you.
Try here for more explanation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550050

yea that's what i'm talking about... now don't get me wrong, i believe you guys here on xda first and foremost... but theres a video tutorial on android and me, and it doesn't show them installing the radio and spl between using the recovery flasher and then installing cyanogens 4.0.1... are they not doing it right in the video or are the radio and spl optional? all the guides on here seem to say you do have to flash them but the video clearly shows them not stopping to do it. so maybe their video just sucks haha. but any idea on that?
thanks so much

I have 1 click rooted and installed Cyanogen 4.01, I am on CRC1, my understanding was as I was already on 1.5 Cupcake, my current SPL and Radio were current.
I read somewhere that the 1 click method is only temporary root. But if someone could elaborate on this it would be very helpful. Also what is this hard spl ?

Radio\SPL\OS. What order to install and how?

Hi guys. I need some clarification on the procedure for updating the radio, SPL, and OS. First off I’m going to try and upgrade to 1.6 Specifically http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
I’m getting thoroughly confused. Some guides are saying update the Radio, then the SPL, then OS. Some say OS then Radio, leave the SLP if you have the hard SPL that was installed during the initial rooting. Right now I have Android 1.0 RC29 installed with radio 1.22.12.29
Does anyone have any ideas? I already bricked my G1 earlier today. T Mobile replaced it. I’d rather not do it again. Any help you guys can provide would be very much appreciated. Thanks!

flash the 2.22.19.26I radio, then flash the rom. if you do not have the hard spl it can be flashed before or after the rom, the 1.33.2005 spl is the only spl that can brick your phone

How to tell what spl you have

I rooted my phone so long ago just following JFs instructions I cant remember what spl I installed and now with the need for the Danger SPL or Eng SPL to run the new eclair roms I wanted to know what I am running I booted into the spl and it says HSPL10.95.3000 so I am pretty sure that I am using the Hard spl, is that correct ? Does this mean I can not use the new eclair roms with installing a new spl ?

If you booted into fastboot and it said HSPL10.95.3000, then yes, you are running the Hard SPL, and yes, you need to install the new SPL before flashing any Eclair ROMs.

Joe333x said:
I rooted my phone so long ago just following JFs instructions I cant remember what spl I installed and now with the need for the Danger SPL or Eng SPL to run the new eclair roms I wanted to know what I am running I booted into the spl and it says HSPL10.95.3000 so I am pretty sure that I am using the Hard spl, is that correct ? Does this mean I can not use the new eclair roms with installing a new spl ?
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All you do is press
Camer+power then look next to Hboot.

tardie said:
If you booted into fastboot and it said HSPL10.95.3000, then yes, you are running the Hard SPL, and yes, you need to install the new SPL before flashing any Eclair ROMs.
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thanks, man I just l wanted to double check. Do you think that eclair roms will always require a danger spl or eng spl? I just dont want to bother changin before the eclair roms are even stable enough to flash for regular every day use.

Joe333x said:
thanks, man I just l wanted to double check. Do you think that eclair roms will always require a danger spl or eng spl? I just dont want to bother changin before the eclair roms are even stable enough to flash for regular every day use.
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1.They need Haykuro SPl
2.Didnt you hear the news?
Tmo will give the Mytouch/G1 up to 2.6 updates.This was said by tmo and some devs on twitter.

Ace42 said:
1.They need Haykuro SPl
2.Didnt you hear the news?
Tmo will give the Mytouch/G1 up to 2.6 updates.This was said by tmo and some devs on twitter.
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according to one ROM thread I read the creator of the ROM said you must have Danger or Engineering SPL. I have heard of people bricking there phones using Haykuro SPL. Thats great news though, I had thought they were stopping G1 updates after 1.6